Indian Interests

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 27 Sep 2013 18:13

RE: SC decison just on 'none of the above'.

I guess it forms a new party the NOTA-neta Party. This which will 100% corruption free as it would need no funding, promise or slogan.

So what happens when it does happen i.e. would there be by-election or the seat be left empty? What happens when 273 NOTA-netas forms the majority? India just might do better.

Seriously though an the unintended consequences might be that 'for a party I do not like' (if the seat is left empty) would now need less members to form the government. But at least it does puts the cat among the crows.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Sep 2013 18:45

Looks like a kitchen coup... PM has been shafted, I'd say.

Nevertheless, what was truly worthwhile was seeing Ajay Maken sitting right next to RG and, as the Arabs would say, "eating sh1t"... and eventually shaking his head in approval of its taste... Pathetic, and clearly what might be expected of all other Congresswallahs. I would love to hear the curses uttered by Maken when he got home and he was sure no one was around to hear what he really thought of what just transpired.

Opposition is saying MMS should quit, which is no doubt what all those who want RG to be PM want. A strong check.

But not even close to mate, too early in the game.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 27 Sep 2013 18:51

harbans wrote:Ajay Maken was at the Pres conference and defending the Ordinance when Rahul Gandhi barges in and wants to take a few questions. Says the Ordinance is nonsense and must be torn up.. Ajay Maken was left with egg on the face...hilarious

Video ... Video please ....

One must download it and keep it for funny times.

OK gents please make do with an snap for now.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 27830.aspx

durvasa · Post by **durvasa** » 27 Sep 2013 19:05

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vide ... 155807.cms

Here is the video! I am disappointed that the cameramen did not show Ajay's face when Congress Prince was talking

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Sep 2013 19:39

When NDA came to power, decision making was very well managed. All NDA parties got credit for good performance.

RaulG's behaviour reminds of a time during lokpal agitation in Dilli when Annaji was put in jail by con race. There was a talk of a call from RG to jail warden and so on in favor of releasing Annaji - an ad-hoc way to hide why Annaji was put in jail in the first place.

This is how RG woerks. All ad-hoc and no responsibility. After all what is NAC all about.

In the end he said everyone does the same only.. now who appointed him to talk on behalf of all which isn't even true. There are some politicians who are working to avoid this by urging the President to not sign on it. RaulG did what exactly other than spreading lies about it and then claiming credit from people working on it.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Sep 2013 20:24

Pathetic though it is, at some level one must admire the kamikaze-type loyalty of the Xongis to the Maino Family. One minute all of them, from Sibal to Tiwari to Maken to Sanjay Jha are shouting in defence of the ordinance from every platform. Five minutes later, after Yuvraj has made his opposition known, ALL these others have made 180 degree turns without blinking an eye or missing a beat. Digvijay Singh is kept locked out of the MP Congress Office like a rain-sodden mongrel and next thing you know he is back in the public square, fanatically spouting the party line as if nothing happened. MMS is embarrassed by Yuvraj while representing his country in front of all the world's leaders, but instead of resigning he quietly submits to Yuvraj (on an issue that he was willing to stare down 1.2 crore Indian citizens to defend.)

Imagine... just imagine if this kind of loyalty, selflessness, determination and vigour from the same Xongis were exercised for Bharat's sake, instead of the Maino family's sake.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 Sep 2013 20:37

Exactly Rudradevji, this eats from national credit while loyals behave selectively even on official posts and make RaulG look better in US.

There are many politicians in India working to deal with this, including urging the President not to approve it.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Sep 2013 21:39

harbans wrote:Wht is this polarizing crap now being used as a cliche by the MSM. The most non-polarized states in history have been North Korea, Saudi Barbaria, Stalinist Russia, Maoist China, Saddams Iraq, Gaddafi's Libya, Sadats Egypt. The most polarized states have always been the best functional democracies. We need more polarization not less.

Polarization means consolidation of real secular, sons of soil's votes and this hinder PSec goatactivities. Polarization between good and bad is necessary to evict the evil, devil and dregs.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 28 Sep 2013 04:33

When sh*t hits the fan as it does regularly in Indian politics,I'm always reminded of dear departed Zulfie Bhutto's prison wisdom in his smuggled out memoirs,as he ranted against the dictators of Pak,about India being "held together by the noise and chaos of its democracy".Every court must have its clown and the Congress-UPA durbar has not just one but scores of buffoons,beginning with the "Clown Prince" himself! For he has shafted not just his party colleagues but scored a huge own goal against his own team led by the spineless wonder himself,who must be getting acute indigestion in Washington at happenings in Delhi!

We will now breathlessly wait for the latest Congress spin on its Prince Charming's outburst where it will try to blame the Opposition as usual.Watching Congressmen squirm on TV shows is a delight,dessert after dinner.

However,the true reason for Rahulji's outburst is that he is seeing the Congress disintegrate in fast "slow motion",accelerating as election time nears.The nation is so fed up with Congress-UPA scams,that it is just waiting to boot out this shameless and politically debauched regime whose odour from the sewers of corruption and malfeasance in Delhi,has reached every corner of the nation.The latest statement from our spineless wonder in Washington after yet another terror outrage executed by Pak,that he will never call off talks with Pak,was soundly condemned across the nation. Never in his entire political history has our incumbent PM's reputation been so low.In fact you will have to take a spade and dig underground to find it!

In inverse proportion to the plummeting reputation of MMS has been the meteoric rise of Mr.Modi.His third consecutive electoral victory in Gujarat has catapulted him onto the national stage,where he is now the official BJP candidate for PM if the BJP/NDA combine win.Modi is terrifying the Congress who have yet to find an answer to his electoral juggernaut.All the polls which have been conducted thus far show that as candidate for PM,Modi is streets ahead of everyone,with Rahul ,his closest rival trailing behind.As Modi continues with his first round of campaigning for the people of the non-Hindi belt to get to know him,this insidious "ordinance",like a defective piece of ordnance manufactured by the OFB, has exploded in the Congress's very own stables,sending the horses and assess into a frenzy.The sympathetic detonation of Rahulji's own "bombshell" has multiplied the damage and the "Joker" in charge...sorry "Jockey" in charge has been grievously wounded in his backside which may in fact unseat him!

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 30 Sep 2013 08:44

Doing the rounds in cyberspace:

AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM??!!

Selection of Rahul’s best – the Rahulisms
( Congress choice of PM Candidate)

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)

There is a tendency to look at India as a country. If you go back 1,000 or 2,000 years, India is actually energy. It is a force. It came from Ganga, Yamuna, Saraswati. As this energy goes abroad, you are our people who will tell everyone what this energy is all about. It’s this energy that’s driving us.

Interaction with professionals, Ahmedabad (Feb 2009)
Gujarat is bigger than the United Kingdom, to give you an idea. In fact, India is bigger than Europe and the United States put together.

Speech on nuke deal in Parliament (March 2009)
I spoke about two poor families - one of them was called Mrs Kala. Mrs Kala said she had diversified her income sources and used that to bring up her nine children. Nuclear energy acts as Kala’s main crop. The problem is the way our nuclear industry is positioned. Our scientists are tied because they do not have fuel, investment and technology. I’m proud to say Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has recognised the problem as well as the potential solution.

Interaction with media, Kolkata (Sept 2013)
Politics is everywhere. It's in your shirt, your pants. Politics is everywhere. That is the problem with youngsters these days. This is a fundamental problem and we are trying to solve this problem

A reaction to Anna Hazare’s agitation at Ram Lila Maidan, New Delhi (Aug 2011)
The real question is can we take up the battle against corruption? There are no simple solutions. It requires a firm political will. Annaji has expressed the same sentiments. The question before us is whether we are prepared to take corruption head on. Lokpal Bill cannot be a substitute to fighting corruption.

Chairing a talk on future of the Internet, JNU campus, New Delhi Jan 2013)
Stop asking politicians what they would do. Start asking yourself what you would do. That’s how the country will move forward

A meeting with students of LN Mishra university, Darbhanga, Bihar (Aug 2011)
If the country has to change, Gujarat has to change - a comment that sparked an uproar and resulted in his exiting the meeting midway. His correction: ‘Galti se Gujarat bol diya Bihar ke bajaaye’ (By mistake I said Gujarat instead of Bihar).

Indian Institute of Information Technology convocation, Amethi (Nov 2011)
I would like to talk about the big picture. Here’s the big picture. When we started 60 years ago, we were not connected. No roads, no schools and no healthcare. Villages were not speaking to each other. The energy of India, which lies within people, was not talking to each other. We’ve been able to connect Indians. We started out as a poor nation where everybody was poor

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)
There are people doing yoga in New York and dancing around, that’s Indian power. You go to a night club somewhere in Spain and there’s Amitabh Bachchan on the screen there, dancing around. That’s the power of India. That’s the power of Indian people.

Congress workshop on social media, New Delhi
If India is a computer, Congress is its default program. Congress comes natural to India’s ethos. Here, anger and aggression are not appreciated

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)
Optimism for me is like India. It is bursting with dreams and fearless ideas, brave ideas. Millions and millions of youngsters are struggling every day with optimism.

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)
We have to provide the roads on which our dreams are paved. And these roads can’t have potholes. They can’t break down in six months. They have to be big roads because they are going to carry strong people, strong forces

A reaction just after the Mumbai attacks (July 2011)
It is difficult to prevent every single terror attack. If the US can’t prevent terror attacks, how can we? The war is taking place. Not in the US, but on them. The war has moved. They are losing people in Afghanistan. We can stop 99 per cent of attacks, but one per cent may get through.

Chairing a talk by Internet founder Vint Cerf, JNU, New Delhi (Jan 2013)
Every situation that Indian person finds himself in is extremely complex. We have to deal with the red lights. As young leaders here have to deal with senior with senior leaders, suddenly someone disrupts your entire life. Everything happens, sort of, according to your karma, it’s all random

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)
We need to empower everybody, not one person, not almost everybody, but everybody.

CII summit, New Delhi (April 2013)
I went to University in 1991. I remember nobody thought of India. I remember conversations where people would laugh and say, ‘Do you have elephants on the road?’ Nobody is saying that today. A huge part of it is because of you people

During a talk in Allahabad on ‘Culture, Deepening Democracy and Most Marginalised Communities’ (Aug 2013)
Poverty is a state of mind. It does not mean the scarcity of food, money or material things. If one possesses self-confidence, then one can overcome poverty

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2013 21:26

Pranav

ramana wrote: DNA, Sep 30, 2013

All eyes on supreme commander

The VK Singh controversy underscores the need for President to play a more active role

C Uday Bhaskar

This is going OT, but Rajinder Puri hints that the Ambanis would like Pranab-da to take charge in 2014 -

The only effective leader with the requisite stature, experience and political skill to obtain governance out of a badly fractured parliament happens to be President Pranab Mukherjee. According to some sources certain big business elements are zeroing in on his name. Whether Mr. Mukherjee could play an effective role in his present post to ensure stability is a matter of conjecture. It would imply a change in how our present system of government operates. By coincidence or otherwise in Mumbai which is India’s financial capital some unusual street hoardings have sprung up advocating a presidential system of government for this nation. One of these hoardings was displayed in Kemp’s Corner. The other possibility would be of course that circumstances compel the President to resign his post and become Prime Minister. There have been occasions in America when a President after demitting office has taken up another political post. In India C. Rajagopalachari after becoming the Governor General of India became the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. Though unusual, such an eventuality would not be impossible.

- See more at: http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Cont ... G8bOO.dpuf

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 30 Sep 2013 21:43

The Emerging Left in the “Emerging” World:
By Jayati Ghosh, Professor of Economics and Chairperson at the Centre for Economic Studies and Planning, School of Social Sciences, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, India. Originally published at Triple Crisis. This is the third part (of four) of “The Emerging Left in the ‘Emerging’ World,” by Triple Crisis founding contributor Jayati Ghosh, originally delivered in 2012 as part of the Ralph Miliband Lecture Series at the London School of Economics. We posted the introduction two weeks ago (here), and the second part last week (here). In this week’s post, Ghosh discusses five more “common threads” of the emerging left: private property, “rights,” class and identity, gender, and the environment. We will post the conclusion to the lecture next week.

On ‘Rights’
Just as the emerging left tendencies engage more positively with formal democratic institutions, they also tend to speak more and more in the language of “rights.” They do not, however, see rights exclusively or primarily in the individualistic or “libertarian” sense of so-called “negative rights” or “freedom from” some form of intrusion. Rather, they define rights more broadly in terms of “positive rights” or “freedom to” of various kinds, as well as recognizing the need for social and political voice not just of individual citizens, but also of communities and groups. The United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights can be interpreted as a socialist manifesto, since it calls for the recognition of this wide variety of civil, political, social, economic and cultural rights. In practice, left governments and political groups have pressed citizens’ or groups’ demands for rights or entitlements on the state. Left groups have, recently, recognized more explicitly the rights of indigenous peoples, communities and even “nations” within a country, as well as of the elderly, the young, and persons with disabilities. This reflects the emerging left’s wider and more diverse definition of the groups it identifies as exploited, which in turn requires new forms of organization and mass mobilization.

On Class and Identities
The standard socialist paradigm that emerged in the 19th century and developed in the 20th saw class as the fundamental contradiction within each society, with imperialism as the defining feature of relations between countries. This paradigm ignored other cultural attributes or treated them as subordinate to class. Other forms of domination or oppression were transient tendencies—premodern or semi-feudal relics—which would be destroyed by the expansion of market forces and capitalism generally. These supposed “relics,” like gender and ethnic oppression, however, have proved extremely durable and resilient. The capitalist system, meanwhile, has shown a remarkable ability to absorb and make use of various “precapitalist” forms of social exclusion and discrimination (as in labor markets “segmented” along ethnic or gender lines). This has forced a realization, on the part of the left, that it is not enough to address issues in class terms alone. Many strands of the emerging left are now much more explicitly (even dominantly) concerned with inequalities, oppression, and exploitation that are not easily reducible to “class” in the traditional socialist understanding. It is a separate question whether this shift in focus (at least in its most dramatic forms) is always justified, especially as class and imperialism still remain such powerful determining forces in the world today.
On Gender
A changed attitude to the “woman question”—and a more complex understanding of the nature and locations of exploitation—are features of many emerging left movements. Of course, women have been part of the working class since the beginning of capitalism, even when they have not been widely acknowledged, even by the labor movement and the left, as workers in their own right. Their contribution to social reproduction, always essential to the functioning of the system and almost always unpaid, also went largely unrecognized. For more than a century, trade unions and other worker organizations tended to be male preserves, based on the “male breadwinner” model of the household in which the husband/father worked outside to earn money, while the wife/mother handled domestic work.It has taken prolonged struggle, especially by working-class women, to gain greater social recognition for both women’s wage work and their unpaid household and community-based work. This is not to say that patriarchy has suddenly disappeared from the ranks of leftist organizations and movements—this is, unfortunately, a longer struggle.
On the Environment
Traditional Marxists tended to glory in the development of productive forces as an expression of the forward march of history. This does not necessarily require an exploitative and aggressive attitude to nature, but in actual practice this was the case only too often. The requirements of an organic and sustainable attitude to nature were rarely factored into left movements’ and governments’ discussions about accumulation and economic growth. All this has changed quite dramatically in recent years. Among the primary contradictions of contemporary capitalism are the ways it collides with ecological and resource limits—as evidenced by pollution, over-extraction, and other forms of degradation of the natural environment. Capitalism’s unsustainable patterns of production, consumption, and accumulation are generating open conflicts over resources and forcing societies to change, often in undesired ways. Visions for more humane and just societies therefore have to incorporate these critical concerns.Today, many self-described socialists see environmental conservation, the protection of ecosystems and biodiversity, and the recovery of degraded natural spaces as matters of primary public interest. Some recent constitutions (of Ecuador and Bolivia, for example) explicitly grant rights to nature independent of people.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/09/ ... b4ESRyk.99

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2013 22:26

Pranav, Pranab Mukherjee quitting to become PM is a demotion for him. Besides he is hardly the person to initiate the Presidential form of government in India. CRR's bad luck was MKG killed soon after Independence. JLN didnt get along with CRR and relegated him to sidelines. Hence the turn at CM of Madras state. So its not a good example for India.
Also Pranab Mukherjee is one reason the elder Ambani called Congress his dukaan.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2013 22:34

Also shouldn't Shinde be asking the State Home Ministers not to arrest any 'innocent person' instead of only 'innocent Muslims'?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 30 Sep 2013 22:38

Rahul Gandhis' ill timed outburst on the decriminalizing convicted politicians ordinance while PM was on UN visit has undermined the PM.

PM needs to set things right after he returns.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Oct 2013 02:49

Yes,a pres. form of govt. would fit the bill perfectly for mercenary business interests.Parliament would be reduced to a rubber stamp debating club that would be a theatre of the absurd and ministers reduced to puppets ,real power lying with the pres. and his chosen coterie.To see how democracy has been abused in this form of govt.,one simply has to look at Sri Lanka,where JR Jayawardene brought in the presidential system ,after which he brought in proportional representation in elections,no first past the post results (as exists now) which would allow parliament to have sufficient numbers to vote out the pres. system, which concentrated all power in the hands of one individual.

SL thus became a crony capitalist state with any excesses of authority by the president almost impossible to bring ato book or even impeach him, due to the PR system of elections which saw to it that numbers would be insufficient for the purpose.SL has no been reduced to the status of a family run business,where various members of the large first family allegedly compete for contracts! India would thus in rapid time have its Marcos or Suharto or Mubarak! This would result in revolt by the states who were left out of the "buffet",and see a further spread of the Naxal disease.In SL the pres. system resulted in an ethnic civil war ,in India we would perhaps resemble Naipaul's "million mutinies now" and the fruit of balkanisation of India ready to drop,with waiting firangs under the tree.

The return of the PM is eagerly awaited as it is going to be very interesting to see how he hopes to recover his moral authority,severely undermined by the R-bomb. Having smelt blood,the Congress' young turks will be eager for more victories and likea tiger who has tasted human blood and becomes a "man-eater",the young turks of the Congress will become Man Mohan eaters!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Oct 2013 02:58

err Philip the R-fizzle burst on them only*. Lets talk in GDF where it is being dissected.

*Foisted on own petard as it negates all the "good work" done by the CONmist if he is trashed by his own pappus.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 01 Oct 2013 03:24

Could one interpolate "Congress party" instead of "Tory party" here? Are there similarities? In any case the GOP is rapidly shrinking in support and membership.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... id-cameron
The incredible shrinking Tory party

The attendance figures for the Conservative party conference tell a tale of how David Cameron lost his core membership and let the bankers in

Aditya Chakrabortty
The Guardian, Monday 30 September 2013

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Oct 2013 06:47

Hands off: Temples keep govt away from their gold
http://www.firstpost.com/economy/hands- ... ef_article

[quote]Thiruvananthapuram: India’s temples are resisting divulging their gold holdings – perhaps nearly half the amount held in Fort Knox – amid mistrust of the motives of authorities who are trying to cut a hefty import bill that is hurting the economy. The Reserve Bank of India (RBI), which has already taken steps that have slowed to a trickle the incoming supplies that have exacerbated India’s current account deficit, has sent letters to some of the country’s richest temples asking for details of their gold. It says the inquiries are simply data collection, but Hindu groups are up in arms. “The gold stored in temples was contributed by devotees over thousands of years and we will not allow anyone to usurp it,” said V Mohanan, secretary of the Hindu nationalist Vishwa Hindu Parishad organisation in Kerala, in a statement.Indians buy as much as 2.3 tonnes of gold, on average, every day – the weight of a small elephant – and what they don’t give to the gods is mostly hoarded. Guruvayur temple, in Kerala, one of the most sacred in India and boasting a 33.5-metre (110-ft) gold-plated flagstaff, has already told the RBI it won’t divulge any details. “The gold we have is mostly offered by the devotees. They would not like the details to be shared with anybody,” said V M Gopala Menon, commissioner of the temple’s administrative board. The World Gold Council estimates there are about 2,000 tonnes of gold locked away in temples – worth about $84 billion at current prices – which Indian devotees have offered in the form of jewellery, bars, coins and even replicas of body parts, in the hope of winning favours from the gods or in thanks for blessings received and health restored. Curbing gold imports and getting the gold squirreled away back into circulation has become a priority for the government and RBI this year. Import duty is at a record 10 percent and the latest new rule – that 20 percent of all imports must leave the country as jewellery exports – caused confusion that dried up buying for two months. The head of the main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Kerala, V Muralidharan, said the RBI wanted to “take possession” of the gold and maybe sell it for dollars. Data collecting? The RBI said there was “no proposal under its consideration to convert idle gold into bullion at this juncture”. But its letters, sent to leading temple trusts in Kerala, were prompted by a report looking at “issues related to gold imports” and loans outside the banking system in February, which zeroed in on temples and domestic hoards for fresh supplies. Under the heading “supply-related measures”, the report looks at recycling domestic gold and notes: “Temples in India hold large quantities of gold jewellery offered by devotees to the deities.” Subha Unnikrishnan, a clothes shop owner worshipping at one of the temples in Kerala’s capital Thiruvananthapuram, said whatever had been given to the temple should stay there. “We have given it to the god with a purpose,” he said. “Nobody can take them away.” Of the three major temple boards in Kerala, which administer more than 2,800 temples, Cochin board has also decided against providing details of its gold, while another has yet to decide and a third says it has not yet received a letter from the RBI. Some of them cite security reasons for their reticence – and the wealthiest temples do have tight controls and metal detectors at gates to keep their assets safe. There has been no inquiry from the RBI yet at the centuries-old Sree Padmanabhaswamy temple, where two years ago treasure then estimated to be worth over $20 billion – more than India’s education budget – was discovered in secret subterranean vaults. But its hoard is already being checked by the Supreme Court to make sure it is adequately protected. There are some, for sure, who feel the temples should divulge their centuries of gold offerings. “Everything the temple gets should be known to the devotees,” said Shankaram Kutty, head of an advertising firm based in Cochin, who goes at least once a year to Guruvayur with an offering. “I feel every temple should declare their assets.” Mumbai’s Shree Siddhivinayak Ganpati temple, often visited by Bollywood celebrities, had already put 10 kg (22 lbs) of its gold into a bank deposit scheme. It still has 140 kg in its vault. “The gold we have is the nation’s property, we will be proud if the nation can benefit from it,” said Subhash Vitthal Mayekar, chairman of the temple’s administrative trust. He has not yet received an inquiry from the RBI. It is not alone. The Tirupati temple in Andhra Pradesh, considered one of India’s richest, has lodged 2,250 kg of gold with the State Bank of India, which pays it interest. As the central bank ponders its options, it could take heart that the temples themselves are already doing their bit to circulate the gold. “We use some of it for making gold lockets that we sell in our temple counter. For making the lockets, we send some gold to the Mumbai mint through the State Bank of India, which is one of our bankers,” said a source at the Guruvayur temple’s administration./quote]

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Oct 2013 07:30

ramana wrote:Also shouldn't Shinde be asking the State Home Ministers not to arrest any 'innocent person' instead of only 'innocent Muslims'?

in twitter world - Arnab mentioned that 69% of undertrials were Hindus.

G Kishan Reddy, MLA ‏@kishanreddybjp

Earlier he said Hindus resorting to terrorism. Now, he writes letter to states asking them not to arrest Muslims. This is Congress for you!

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Oct 2013 14:07

If 69% of under trials are Hindus and that increases then what does it mean?

Secularism at its selective best while secular set up maintains selective silence.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 01 Oct 2013 22:18

Amazing. So India should export the iron ore to China and import finisihed steel products.

UN Panel asks to halt 12 Billion Dollar Posco Project in Odisha

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Oct 2013 00:59

harbans wrote:Amazing. So India should export the iron ore to China and import finisihed steel products.

UN Panel asks to halt 12 Billion Dollar Posco Project in Odisha

On a regular day GoI would show this UNHR group its place and ask them mind their business.

Yes those 22000 displaced would have to be taken care off and the Eco-system is properly substituted.

A $12B investment should create at least 12x40000 = 480,000 permanent employment opportunities. So accommodating 22000 people should not be an issue.

More GoI becomes communal under the Burkha of secularism, more influence these 2-bit NGOs get on Indian policy making.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 02 Oct 2013 02:05

Ramay Ji every Billion dollars in direct investment creates quarter million jobs of ave 4000 USD per year income almost directly. 12 billion would be 3 million jobs and living for the respective families. Also remember Mittal wanted to invest 15 Billion, that is 4 million jobs. And Tata steel another 10 billion. That is 2.5 billion jobs. Total would have been around 10 million jobs and livelihoods direct or indirect for 40 million or so. It would transform Orissa as never before. This was big and blown to smithereens. INC truly does not want development. It want to dole out largesse..for votes that is all.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 02 Oct 2013 03:05

^ Who benefits?

Orissa is an important node in the forces that want to control the east-south corridor. If Orissa is taken out of their control they would lose access to their mothership in Andhra Pradesh.

And the other force that successfully influenced the political alliances in Orissa needs the support of the east-south corridor force to further their own project.

These forces are supported by each of the G2. To hide their hands, they are using this international NGOs for GoI displayed its capability to shut down home grown NGO networks.

GoI under Congress is compromised for some of its ministers are nothing but agents of these external forces.

Kanson · Post by **Kanson** » 02 Oct 2013 08:41

Congress Betrayed Gandhi, Sardar & Now Nehru
http://www.mediacrooks.com/2013/10/cong ... mment-form

It’s another Gandhi Jayanti. Many glowing tributes will be paid to him, Rajghat will be decorated. Politicians will atone for their sins at his Samadhi. Expectedly, Rajdeep Sardesai will promote another book on the Mahatma by ‘Eminent Distortian’ Ram Guha. Reality: Everything positive about MKG has already been destroyed by the Congress party. Now Sushil Kumar Shinde has a new plan. He has written to all Chief Ministers “Ensure no Muslim youth is wrongfully detained”. And then the Congress will scream other parties are communal. The stupidity apart, the illegality of such a letter and its Constitutional invalidity does not matter to the Congress. Of course, they will tell you they respect the Constitution, the law, the courts, the people while doing exactly the opposite very frequently.

Those who have observed the Congress party closely would know by now that the party doesn’t have any ideology; political or economic. After any court verdict you will hear any number of Congress spokies grandly state “we respect the courts and respect the verdict”. Like many other lies, this is another lie that the party revels in. This party has a history of disrespecting courts and negating verdicts. It was Jawaharlal Nehru’s intolerance of routine criticism and an order of Madras High Court that led to the first amendment to the Constitution that curbed free speech. It was the order of Allahabad HC which led to Indira Gandhi imposing Emergency. It was the SC order in the Shah Bano case for which Rajiv Gandhi amended the Constitution again. Anyone left? Oh yes, the SC ruled against the right of convicted legislators to continue in office or contest elections. So under Sonia Gandhi there’s the Ordinance to protect convicted politicians. Of course, Rahul “Complete Nonsense” Gandhi tried to play a local hero by screaming against the Ordinance but it remains to be seen what his rogue Diva act comes to.

RG lives in a time when it’s hard to fool people and the corrupt fixers and brokers in the “Mithai Swallowing Media” (MSM) have no monopoly on the national discourse. Public opinion creates tremendous pressure through other media. However, the fundamental tactic of Congress of dividing the nation, dividing people by religion, caste and community remains intact. Every time the party has been given the opportunity to govern the nation they have only sunk it further and destroyed more democratic and national institutions.

The Congress neither has a history of respecting the Opposition nor does it have a history of respecting the law. If any Congi tells you that then take it with a truck-load of salt. The Congress dumped MK Gandhi’s political principles immediately after he died. Any semblance of democracy that was left inside was dumped by IndiraG. The claim that this is the same party of 100+ years is a fake claim further supported by mongrels in the media. The claim that this is the party that fought for independence is equally dubious. This is Congress (I) and not the original INC. This is the Congress of IndiraG which created a culture of putting strong political opponents into prison. To get a better idea of how this practice of fake legal cases continues you can read this latest piece from Arun Jaitley written to the PM. It’s in the context of all this that one has to view the sinister design behind Shinde’s letter.

Here’s a short clip I received on email. This is a discussion on Pakistani news channel News One. The panellist doesn’t look like a Jihadi or terrorist. He talks like a well-educated, scholarly man. I have no other details of who the anchor or guest is but his words are worth listening to:

Interesting, isn’t it? The guy wants entire Hindustan to be turned into Pakistan. He wants Radio Pakistan to be the main voice. We would be foolish to imagine this is a lone-wolf. We would be equally foolish to imagine that there aren’t some people and some politicians in India who do not share his vision. There is a very high probability that a lot of Pakistanis and some in India from the media also share his grand vision. Breaking India is not imagination; it’s a reality to confront.

In the movie Gandhi (1982), which is considered authentic by the GOI and which was supported by IndiraG’s govt, MK Gandhi tells Jinnah he can be the first PM of India and have Muslims as ministers and in many senior positions (Youtube 2.39.00). Ah well, you could say MMS follows Gandhian principles when he suggested "Muslims have the first right on the resources of country". This, after a state called Pakistan was created based on religious lines. Carry on, Shinde! That’s not all. In another scene in the same video Nehru tells Gandhi that if he persisted with his stubbornness “there will be no Hindus left in Pakistan” (2.44.00). I leave it to you to decipher the context of Nehru’s remark to Gandhi; it’s not rocket science. At least on that count Nehru proved right. Millions of Hindus were killed in East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and the Hindu population in Pakistan has almost been cleansed. Subsequent follies of Indian govts have also seen the cleansing of Hindus from Kashmir. So now it’s worth getting back to Shinde’s and Congress’ evil design.

During the UP elections campaign in 2012 Salman Khurshid, who is incapable of uttering one coherent sentence but is a media darling because he speaks English, screamed he will carve out a 9% reservation for Muslims out of the 27% meant for OBCs. He even dared the Election Commissioner to hang him. Bravo! Arun Jaitley pointed out then too that this wasn’t 9% but when you consider it’s a slice of the 27% it’s actually 33%. Mulayam Singh wants 3 Muslim policemen at every police station. Bravo! The guy who denies existence of Indian Mujahideen and is also alleged to be involved in Waqf land scams, K.Rahman Khan wants special courts for Muslims. That guy in the Paki news channel video certainly isn’t going to be disappointed. Oh by the way, even some Muslims are now seeing though the trickery of people like Rahman Khan.

But what is the truth? I have said many times facts count and opinions belong in the dustbin. When Ministers such as Shinde and parties like Congress and SP start making polices based on opinions you know governance is a grave yard. It was only Arnab Goswami on the Newshour on September 30 who talked facts on the issue of undertrials and convicted people in India’s prisons. The other channels made it more of “communal or not” discussion. Does Shinde’s nonsense being absolutely communal even need a debate? But hey, that’s what CNN-IBN or NDTV is for; mindless mental masturbation. Here are the stats that Arnab put up:

According to the graph put up by Arnab the undertrials are: Hindus 69.9% and Muslims 21%. Where convicted persons in prisons are concerned: Hindus: 71.4% and Muslims 17.8% Are these stats reliable? Absolutely! You can check out the whole report on prison population by all demographics for 2012 put out by National Crime Records Bureau.

Shinde’s nonsense probably originated from a case in Andhra Pradesh where the High Court struck down compensation paid by the State govt to Muslim youths wrongly detained for long. Subsequently, the same HC withdrew the order and has reserved further orders. Even in this case there is a clear cut communal act on the part of AP govt. I doubt too many people will argue on the compensation issue, although there is no such provision in law, but choosing to give money selectively to Muslims is again a divisive policy of the Congress. And other parties are communal?

Every aspiration and hope that India started out with after Independence mostly stand destroyed. There is a certain evil element in the manner in which Congress govts make policies and still claim they are “secular”. Their practices have seen the rise of the most corrupt politicians, family members and relatives profiting from the system. If there were 500+ small provinces at India’s Independence, there are hundreds of small fiefdoms of politicians and their families. They are as accountable to people as the British were. I doubt Sardar Patel would have been pleased to see this state of affairs. To say that the Congress has betrayed MK Gandhi would be an understatement. But they didn’t stop there. With their communal acts and those of their allies they have even betrayed Nehru.

In the movie Gandhi that I’ve referred in this post there was a scene around 2.49.00 when Nehru receives information of the Calcutta riots and Gandhi going on a fast again. A Police head comes in and suggests because the riots were so severe they may need separate Hindu and Muslim police. This is the script from the actual movie released:

In the little red box within the image of the script above you will note that Nehru angrily lashes out at the idea and says “There will not be a Hindu police and a Muslim police. There is one Police!” What people DON’T know is that this particular scene and dialogue has been censored from many of the movie’s editions that are on Youtube. The scene and dialogue has also been sanitised and removed from many CD/DVD versions that were released about 8 years ago in India. I have a copy and it doesn’t have this scene. In the original movie and the many times it was shown even on TV till about 2000 the scene was very much there. Anyone abroad having the original movie will vouch for it.

Even Nehru, despite his flawed policies, did not subscribe to the idea of different police for Hindus and Muslims. Though, do note that even Nehru wanted to wait FOUR days before he rushed to riot-hit Calcutta, on a Friday. Are our Congress or “Secular” parties any different now? But now you have crooked politicians making policies for Muslim police, Muslim courts and to go easy on arresting Muslim youths. Would Nehru have approved? I don’t think so. So the Congress not only betrayed Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel, they are now betraying Nehru who is their party’s biggest icon. It is one thing to criticise events and policies by one's assessment but quite something else when you measure them by their respect for their own icons. I have nothing more to say.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 03 Oct 2013 07:32

Discussion of Rajiv Malhotra’s BREAKING INDIA book by Dr. Subramaniam Swamy on November 20th, 2011 Bangalore

http://www.breakingindia.com/dr-subrama ... amy-vid-2/

KrishnaK · Post by **KrishnaK** » 04 Oct 2013 02:13

According to the graph put up by Arnab the undertrials are: Hindus 69.9% and Muslims 21%. Where convicted persons in prisons are concerned: Hindus: 71.4% and Muslims 17.8% Are these stats reliable? Absolutely! You can check out the whole report on prison population by all demographics for 2012 put out by National Crime Records Bureau.

This does mean we have an issue. 21% undertrials to 17.8% conviction

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 04 Oct 2013 03:52

Internet freedom has declined in India the most!

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... st/280243/

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 04 Oct 2013 06:57

Kanson wrote: Even Nehru, despite his flawed policies, did not subscribe to the idea of different police for Hindus and Muslims. Though, do note that even Nehru wanted to wait FOUR days before he rushed to riot-hit Calcutta, on a Friday. Are our Congress or “Secular” parties any different now? But now you have crooked politicians making policies for Muslim police, Muslim courts and to go easy on arresting Muslim youths. Would Nehru have approved? I don’t think so. So the Congress not only betrayed Mahatma Gandhi and Sardar Patel, they are now betraying Nehru who is their party’s biggest icon. It is one thing to criticise events and policies by one's assessment but quite something else when you measure them by their respect for their own icons. I have nothing more to say.

I think the author is perhaps not entirely aware of the context of Nehru's anger at hints of "separating" out the "Hindu/Muslim" in policing. This was because of a specific intel report as well as political and other sources on the ground reporting on the planned and prearranged recruitment of Muslims in Calcutta police forces, and in the rural side - especially in East Bengal regions where there were still substantial Hindu populations left - and the role of Muslim policemen in the early days of the rioting in protecting and supporting Islamists.

JLN here was angry because there were talks/proposals to isolate The Muslim personnel and neutralize/confine/restrict them from active participation in pro-Islamist activities. Or use community matched policing.

Look up his reactions in similar policing context for Bihar. In fact in an interview to a very prominent BPCC leader, MKG adopted a similar "special" excuse for Bihar supporting JLN's zealous and contradictory-to-his(JLN)'s-own-statements-for-Calcutta- actions in Bihar in sharp contrast to Noakhali.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 04 Oct 2013 17:59

Shouldn't there be blanket ban on political interference especially during riots. Reminds of Muzaffarnagar riots where Hindu personnel were transferred by local UP politicians Azam Khan.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 04 Oct 2013 18:38

Radia tapes throw light on spheres beyond 2G scam: SC - Firstpost

Observing that “the recent issue concerning the Railway Board Member” also comes to light on scrutiny of the intercepted conversations of Radia, a bench of justices GS Singhvi and V Gopal Gowda said, “actually money is paid”.

However, it cautioned that “there should not be one-sided view” and there should be a thorough probe supported by material as the issues are “extremely serious”.

“On the aspect of the security of the nation, the report is hazy but extremely serious and needs thorough scrutiny of the call details. We would not like to have it unless some substantial material is found.”

“They are throwing light on different aspects. Our perception was that everything was related to spectrum etc but it is far more wide and different altogether. There is serious cloud on some of the issues,” the bench observed.

“On national security, you (CBI) have to be very cautious which we pointed out. Till something is found, it should not become a matter of speculation because it harms the national interest. The agencies involved must be given enough time to completely look into the matter,” the bench said.

“We will give enough time to scrutinise the entire tape either by same team or whatever team you choose or by the initial team of the income tax department which intercepted Radia’s conversation,” the bench said. It decided to hear the matter again on Tuesday to pass some orders on the initial probe done by a specially constituted team of investigators which went through the call details and transcripts.

He said despite the fact that there is sufficient evidence that the education of the daughter of a former Director General of Hydrocarbons was funded by a corporate house, the probe agency was trying to close the case.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 07 Oct 2013 21:39

Godhra: Sifting Fact from Fiction by Nicole Elfi

nawabs · Post by **nawabs** » 11 Oct 2013 17:04

X-post....

Building ABVP in JNU – The Long Struggle

http://centreright.in/2013/10/building- ... -struggle/

It was in early nineties when a RSS Pracharak began to visit JNU campus on regular basis. He befriended a student who was quite influenced by the communist ideology. Dominance of communist ideology in JNU campus deservedly earned it the sobriquet – Kremlin on the bank of river Yamuna.

The RSS Prachark and student started to spend evenings discussing and defending their ideological beliefs – they would try to convince each other by sharing books and articles of respective ideologies. Those were the times when JNU used to be a place where presence of a RSS flag-bearer was equivalent to being a Jew in Nazi Germany. The RSS man continued his evening chats with his communist friend, a rare JNU student who didn’t mix ideology and human relationships.

One day the student invited the RSS pracharak for a dinner in his hostel. RSS Pracharak, who was in his Sangh attire and his friend took their plates and sat around a table where few students were having dinner. To the shock of RSS man and his friend, everybody eating there chose to leave the table. This was a scene directly from a feudal village where lower caste populace were not allowed to eat along with upper caste men and totally unexpected in an University which is in the heart of India’s capital and claims to be socially progressive. The friend of RSS man was so disgusted with this hypocrisy that he took a vow to fight against the communists. He became one of the first vocal voices of ABVP in JNU

ABVP was taking baby steps and grew in JNU campus slowly but steadily. Many high profile RSS leaders including Govindacharya started to visit the university and most of their meetings would be held in small 8X12 rooms meant for two room partners. ABVP which is also known as ‘Parishad’, decided to create an alternative space and this is why a distinct identity was created. Very basic steps, like differentiating themselves from the ‘attire’ of JNU students, were attempted. Given that sporting a dirty Kurta, along with torn jeans and slippers, became the trademark of any JNU student, ABVP cadres ensured that they would always tuck their shirts, turn up in a sartorially pleasing manner, and would never smoke or drink in public.

JNU had a huge pool of students who yearned to celebrate national festivals but they hesitated as no organization was there to make the first move. Left wingers mourned India’s Independence Day as a black day. In spite of JNU having a huge Bengali population, Durga Puja celebration was treated as communal. Bengali students would go to Chitaranjan Park to celebrate the festival but they would wipe the tilak before entering the campus. Parishad ensured that all these festivals were celebrated. Durga Puja Samiti was formed which was in itself a very long battle as Puja started in a room at Periyar hostel and now the times have changed as even AISA leaders can be seen taking prasad at Pooja Pandal where hundreds of students gather for evening aarti.

As Parishad kept evolving in the campus, Left used same modus operandi, tried and tested in Bengal and Kerala, to suppress it. The techniques include political violence, social boycott, threats to ruin the career, public humiliation, character assassination, wrath of prejudiced professors and vicious rumor mongering about Parishad leaders mainly among girl students.

A very decent history scholar, who planned to contest for JNUSU president post, was maligned by rumors that he beats his girlfriend, which was strongly denied by him and his girlfriend. The student was so hurt that he chose not to contest election. Any movement can never succeed without support of women, as their active participation gives strength and conviction to the movement.

Keeping this in mind, ABVP started to nurture many women student leaders, but it faced massive resistance from the leftist forces unable to countenance this. They would do weird things like calling the parents of the girl student, putting peer pressure in the girl’s hostel and if girl would not give up, every form of intimidation was used. All this was done to stop the growth of ABVP in the University campus

JNU campus always had a right wing vote base which was aimlessly drifting in absence of any nationalist student wing and most of them preferred to remain apolitical in campus or they would create movements like ‘free thinker group’ which would not last for more than a few years. Most of the science schools were known for strong right wing support – the reason why spontaneous movements like Youth for Equality or India against Corruption got huge support from science streams in JNU.

After arrival of ABVP in the campus, the nationalist movement took proper shape and every communist act were spiritedly challenged.Leftist forces used to revel in inviting Kashmiri extremists, extending open support to Naxal armed struggle, opposing any economic policies which would help India in long run, supporting Chinese government, and providing a platform for Pakistani elite to ridicule India. One such incident had happened when a Pakistani poet was bad mouthing about India and an Army personnel was present there. He opposed what he perceived to be a treacherous act and instead of letting him have his say, the Army man was badly beaten by the leftist goons.

Parishad activists were often manhandled by communist thugs to demoralize them. Being weak in numbers, ABVP had to lick its wounds and remain silent. Best example of such communist thuggery can be seen in Kerala where ABVP leaders are killed without any fear of law. By mid-nineties, ABVP emerged stronger and cadre base grew. A big chunk of students from Sainik school tilaiya cleared JNU exams. This is the time when ABVP could stop the violence of left groups by showing numerical strength and this is how ABVP activists stopped being apologetic about their ideology. Continuous intimidation by left wing started to get strong retaliation and left wing recognized hesitantly that ABVP was going to stay in the Campus.

Parishad began to win few school level councilor seats and the tally kept growing. By late nineties, ABVP was winning union seats except JNUSU president post. Oriya community produced many Parishad leaders and Oriya students would vote across ideological lines for any Oriya candidate. Many students from Orissa were elected on different union posts on ABVP ticket. Bihar and UP students were strongly challenging Left by giving a huge cadre support to Parishad. RSS had already started to run two Shakhas in JNU campus and several students were participating in these Shakhas.

Prominent RSS officials visited JNU every year on Guru Dakhsina Karyakrams and no event or activity, which provided platform to subversive elements, went unchallenged. This is the time when communists started to feel the heat and student politics began to change. Before the arrival of ABVP, there used to have every hue and colour of communism present in JNU campus, which was now forced to merge into a single voice to remain relevant in the campus.

SFI used to be strong with its Bengali support as majority of economics, political science and sociology students come from presidency college Kolkata. AISF then emerged and it served as a lobby group for Muslim community in JNU campus. AISA espoused far left ideology as it was the student wing of CPI (ML). It gained popularity after its Leader Chandra Shekhar, also known as Chandu, was killed by RJD MP Syed Shahabuddin. CPI (ML) was the only organisation which had courage to stand against the terror unleashed by Shahabuddin. Chandrashekhar was working tirelessly in Siwan. (Till date, his mother is the flag bearer of CPI (ML) there .The era of terror is long gone after the fall of Lalu Raj.) The protest demonstration that was held in front of Bihar Bhavan was not only about the mobilization of AISA activists only but whole JNU student community. AISA found a martyr in Chandu.

There were few other student organizations like DSU and PSU which used to talk openly of armed struggle against Indian state. JNU has provided a veritable supply chain of Maoist and communist leaders. The most prominent JNU alumni include Prakash Karat, Sitaram Yechury and Baburam Bhattarai. Bhattarai was one of the top two leaders of Maoist movement in Nepal which overthrew the Kingdom.

As the ABVP got stronger, and left parties started to loose seats, they were forced to unite and coalitions were formed. SFI and AISF chose to contest together on seat sharing basis. All this started in 2002 when Sandeep Mahapatra won the JNUSU president seat by only one vote on ABVP ticket. By this victory of one vote, the discourse of JNU changed forever. Campus, which used to debate on several interpretations of left ideology, was now divided into distinct ideological compartments – the left and the right.

2002 was also a landmark year in JNU history as ABVP invited Shri Ashok Singhal of Vishwa Hindu Parishad for the Guru Dakshina Karyakram and more than 600 cadres participated in the event. Whole leftist student community joined together to protest his visit. ABVP had by now decisively forced the left to squeeze itself into a limited space.

JNU has a history of not allowing Indian politicians in the campus. The list of such leaders is long. Indira Gandhi was not allowed to enter JNU campus, Lal Krishna Advani was stopped at JNU gate. But it has also tradition of inviting Naxal leaders in post dinner mess meetings. When Parishad began to protest the lectures of those, who are identified with subversive forces working against the unity of India, Left wing cried foul and the prime logic was ‘freedom of expression’. Arundhati Roy was shouted down when she told that Indian Army is army of rapists. The same left which had not allowed even Indira Gandhi who was PM of India, to use her freedom of expression was advocating for it. Such is the communist hypocrisy. AISA JNUSU president refused to give a bouquet to APJ Abdul Kalam when he visited JNU.

ManMohan Singh, who is professor emeritus in JNU economics department, was shown black flag as he supposedly represented the state, against which these communists want to have an armed struggle. Left’s shocking hypocrisy was on display when Sitaram Yechury denied that Chinese students were brutally suppressed in Tiananmen Square and called it a capitalist propaganda. ABVP ensured that many top BJP leaders including Arun Jaitley, Rajnath Singh, Ravi Shankar Prasad were invited to JNU for public talks and these programs always attracted huge gathering.

By 2003, SFI and AISF were contesting together but due to dissension within ABVP, it stood divided. A rebel group announced the formation of a breakaway unit and ABVP State unit could not handle the situation well. Several reasons explained this divide. Sangathan Mantri, who was an appointee of RSS, was not as ideologically sound as the students of JNU. ABVP had most of its cadre base from foreign language school as they were young and energetic but most of the leaders came from history and International studies departments. If one goes through the NCERT curriculum, JNU left has a strong control over it.

JNU history department professors rule the roost but few students were challenging these professors in their own bastion. ‘Yuva Itihaskar Manch’ was challenging left interpretation of Indian History regularly in History department seminars, debates and discussions. This group of ‘Yuva Itihaskar Manch’ needed to be dealt well and it could be have been used to nurture the talent which would have formed an intellectual nucleus of those seeking to correct the distorted history in future but higher authorities of ABVP Delhi state erred at this moment. A small group joined NSUI in frustration, ABVP performed badly in 2003 but consolation was that ABVP was still having a strong cadre base. Activists with no political ambition were humiliated due to the defeat in 2003 and they chose to fight back in 2004 elections.

JNU has a very unique tradition of organizing Admission assistance camps. It is unique as assistance doesn’t stop at admission process which is very hectic and includes a lot of running around several centers, JNU students accommodate the freshers in their small rooms till they don’t have their hostel rooms allotted. This helps the students as most of them are from economically weak background but at the same time, it helps the student organizations to impact the thinking of the new students and this is how new activists are cultivated.

JNU campus is a cultural shock for many newcomers as they have never experienced an open environment were girls can roam freely at night without fear, post dinner processions happen with full throated sloganeering, everyday debates are staged on world affairs over a cup of tea, beautifully handcrafted student union posters are used for electioneering, teachers ask their students to address them by names, presidential speeches and debates are conduced as part of election campaign, dance parties are organised freshers, no concept of ragging exists and many theater groups asking students to join them, Air conditioned libraries and classrooms, are seen by many students coming from village background for the first time. All these things induce a sense of grandeur in the mind of newcomers.

ABVP used the same system and actively worked for admission assistance and many new students participated in organisational activities. 2004 elections again proved that ABVP had a strong presence in JNU campus. There were incidents that were responsible for the upsurge as few weeks before the JNUSU elections, S.A.R Geelani was invited for an evening talk. He was accused in parliament attack case but acquitted on technical ground.He is still very actively involved in Kashmiri secessionist movement .

ABVP decided to oppose the event and all other left parties including NSUI which is student wing of Congress, stood against ABVP again with the logic of ‘Freedom of expression’. We always see how the human rights is always valid for terrorists,dreaded criminals and anti-nationals but not for their victims. Young students in age group of 18-20 years literally chased away the car of Nandita Haskar. Geelani hid himself inside the car, which he later denied. Campus was once again sharply polarised in to left vs right. Many newcomers, who were being indoctrinated by left and NSUI, could not reconcile to such open invitation to Kashmiri separatist leaders and chose to be part of ABVP.

2004 elections was also notable as it was for the first time a bus load of police personnel had to come inside the campus during elections. The whole issue started with a small incident when a senior ABVP leader, who is now working as a professor in Auckland University now, raised the issue that voting hours were over and hence nobody should be allowed to enter the school building. Most of the late voters used to be from a certain religion. They would vote tactically after fathoming which way the wind was was blowing. Around twenty ABVP activists tried to block the gate. JNUSU election committee closed the gate and voting continued for those who were already inside the building.

A strong rumour went out that Parishad activists were beating SFI leaders and a crowd of 200 SFI supporters came to School of language gate, broke it and entered with tube lights, chains etc in their hands to teach a lesson to Parishad. ABVP had few girls contesting for councillor posts and they had to be hidden to protect from this violent attack. ABVP was outnumbered as it used to happen earlier and many parishad activists had to be hospitalised. This infuriated the ABVP base in JNU and later on, for almost 3 days no SFI leader came out of school building which was surrounded by police men, fearing retaliation.

Most of them went in hiding for weeks and ABVP won most of the councillor seats and one joint secretary seat. Parishad lost presidential seat but got many more votes on each seat than the past and could be defeated only by tactical voting of left wing. ABVP victory procession was much bigger than the SFI procession as nobody from SFI came out. Left tactics is clear, when numerically strong, they attack physically, if less in numbers, they talk of democratic traditions and ethos. JNU is a sample case of communist doublespeak all over the world.

Post elections, ABVP activists were upbeat and wanted a Parishad JNU Unit president and team chosen by popular will of cadres but as the RSS tradition goes, the decision had to come from the above. The higher authorities failed again to read the minds of activists and ABVP got divided. 18 Persons who were at the root of the extra-ordinary performance of 2004 were suspended and another organization called JNU patriotic front was formed by them as these activists could not compromise with their ideology.This resulted in two organisations with similar nationalist ideology inside JNU. JPF proved to be a very strong cadre based organisation which was more aggressive due to its younger crowd. ABVP remained with senior Phd students but they could not shout louder, nor they could resist the communist crowd.

2005 elections were fought by both ABVP and JPF separately. Relations between ABVP and JPF turned so bitter that when ABVP leaders, tried to protest against Brinda Karat for her remarks on Ramdev, to maintain the relevance of Parishad, they were chased away by SFI and few of them were beaten. No JPF cadre supported Parishad but on the same night, one JPF cadre was slapped by SFI cadres and JPF ensured that they found the SFI president the same night and slapped by that cadre – to give a message that manhandling of their cadre will be strongly retaliated. In the mean while, one JNUSU Presidential candidate of SFI blamed a cadre of JPF of sexual harassment which was often used by left to pin down ABVPsupporters.

The student who had completed his course was declared out of bounds of JNU campus and thus 6 JPF boys sat on indefinite hunger strike to revoke the order. The strike continued for 5 days and after few of them were unable to maintain the will to not eat for 6th day and their health was deteriorating JNU administration negotiated with striking students and issue was resolved, but the concerned student was still out of bounds.

JPF decided to avenge this false accusation and at the time of 2005 elections, many supporters of JPF voted for AISA presidential candidate Mona Das. SFI candidate Sona Mitra, who allegedly used sexual harassment as a political tool, was defeated and lesson was taught to her and SFI. As it happens with organisations that have no organized system, JPF faded away.

Parishad had to be revived but in 2006, UPA introduced ruling for OBC reservations, Youth for equality was formed which attracted a huge cadre base from a host of student bodies including ABVP. ABVP lost badly in the elections.By next year Lygdoh commission forced JNU to introduce certain rules for JNUSU elections. Lyngdoh commission was formed to clean student politics. It had appreciated JNUSU for no use of money, alcohol etc but certain rules like age limit were not suitable for JNU as most of the student leaders were Ph.D. scholars. This led to JNUSU elections being stopped for few years.This depoliticized JNU and most of the ABVP leaders passed out and new team could not be developed.

SFI was divided as their central leadership supported UPA but Prasenjit Bose took a position against it and as a result, he was suspended. His team formed another group which contested till this year and this is how AISA, which used to struggling, came back in reckoning and it is winning JNUSU elections continuously. Iftar Parties are organised in every hostel and every student is charged the extra mess bill but AISA opposes celebration of Janmashtami Pooja in hostel mess after dinner time! just because it would hurt ‘sentiments’. The combination of Bolshevik and Shariat can be seen in the double standards followed by these communists. The illegitimate child of this combo is the ideology which is followed bylLikes of Javed Akhtar or Mani Shankar Aiyyar

NSUI is hardly relevant in the context of JNU has it has been unable to convince JNU students despite humongous money power – it simply as no ideological convictions. One notable leader of NSUI who climbed political ladder is Ashok Tanwar who came in good books of Amit Jogi when he was studying in JNU and now he is MP from Haryana and strong contender for Congress State president post. But NSUI could never gather more than 200-300 votes.

The winning methodology of left parties has changed drastically as JNU has 3 departments (Arabic, Persian and Urdu) which attract students from Madarsa background in big numbers. This vote bank is used for tactical voting. Apart from voting tactically, these centers have failed completely in creating job options – many of the ex-students from these centres are running Dhaba, grocery stores, typing thesis of aspiring PhD students, and don’t be surprised if some day some autowallah tells you that he was a JNU student as many Urdu Centre alumnus are forced to run autos due to lack of job opportunities.

Hindi Centre has been hijacked by communist professors like Manager Pandey, Namwar Singh and Purushottam Aggarwal. The stranglehold is such that they have completely suppressed the nationalist literature of poets like Ramdhari Singh Dinkar but these professors have been blamed several times of being casteist in their approach. JNU is witness to left hypocrisy where seminars on poverty are held and speakers talk of hunger after eating a mouth watering plate of Gajar Halwa. Left ideology has diluted and Durga Puja is celebrated with lot of joy which was a huge issue earlier.

Murli Manohar Joshi, who was HRD Minister in NDA regime, started Centre for Sanskrit studies and this Centre was strongly opposed by all communist student groups and this step was projected as promotion of black magic and superstition. At the time of Deepawali, all hostels are decorated by students as tradition was started by ABVP activists. In past, Diwali night seemed like a mourning night with darkness all around. Students who wear clean clothes are not treated as outsiders any more. Language students earn money through freelancing and this has brought prosperity in campus, many new motor cycles are being bought and cars are not a big deal any more

One thing that is most important to mobilize activists for any organisation is slogan shouting, catchy slogans that incite the students. Some popular ones, I would like to mention.

1. Chor chor mausere Bhai, AISF-SFI.

2. Abki hogi Kiski Pitayi- AISF-SFI.

3.Ho-ho-ho chi Minh Bharat chhodo jao chin.

4. Chao-Mao jo kehte ho to Bharat me kyun rehte ho.

5. The Communists frustrated shall always be defeated. (sing it)

6. The parishad united shall always be victorious.

7. Na maowad na jaatiwad, sabsey upar Rashtravad.

8. Gyaan sheel ekta, Parishad ki visheshta.

9. Vampanth ki kabr khudegi, JNU ki dharti par.

10. Kashmir ho ya Guwahati, Apna Desh apni maati.

11. China ke dalalon ko ek dhakka Aur do.

12. Prakash karat ko bhejo mail, SFI ki ho gayi tel.

The slogan that was used to convey the message to left that Parishad was not going to be intimidated anymore was ‘ haarenge to hurenge, Aur jeetenge to thurenge’ which loosely means that we will beat the communists in both cases either we loose or we gain.There are many more slogans which continue to attract students towards Parishad.

Notable ABVP leaders from JNU are now working at several important positions.Nirmala Sitharaman is national spokesperson of BJP( not sure if she was active for ABVP though), Dr. Manish Kumar who is editor in Chauthi Duniya and active on twitter was from Sainik school tilaiya and an active ABVP leader, Ashok Sharma is professor in Auckland university Newzeland, Vikash Pathak covers BJP beat for Hindustan Times, Shiv Shakti Nath Bakshi is editor of Kamal Sandesh (BJP magazine), Swadesh Singh is office secretary of BJYM, D.D Gautam is media in charge of BJP SC Morcha, Sunil Mohanti is pracharak of RSS in Arunachal Pradesh, Siddharth Rai is working as reporter in Hindustan Times Gurgaon.

Editor and sub-editor of RSS publication panchajanya are from JNU, many of JNU parishad team are working as professors in several renowned universities in India and abroad, many of them are journalists and well placed in several news organisations, Sandeep Mahapatra, the only ABVP JNUSU president till date, is working as supreme court lawyer, Irfan khan is heading development projects for a notable NGO, Many are working in Indian Administrative, police and foreign services. Many ABVP activists are successful in their career and supporting nationalist ideology at several platforms. Bangalore IT sector has a huge community from JNU foreign language schools. This list doesn’t include every notable name but it gives an example as how ABVP presence in JNU is important and needs to be maintained as this university produces intellectuals which the Right wing needs badly.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 11 Oct 2013 19:38

How lack of governance (no-nonsense implementation of law) can destroy many aspects of society - religion, history, culture, politics, economic interests and democratic involvement.

The story goes like this: 15 priceless statutes and idols, said to be worth thousands of crores, were stolen in Karnataka on the night of June 5 from the Siddhanta Darshan temple of Moodbidri near Mangalore. This is one of the most revered places of pilgrimage for the Digambars. “The statues belong to the period of emperor Chandragupta Maurya,” says Nirmal Kumar Jain Sethi, national president of the Digambar Jain Mahasabha. The reference to Chandragupta takes the origin of the statues to 340 BC- 298 BC.

The Mangalore police acted swiftly, scanned the CCTV camera footage and nabbed the thief from Bhubaneshwar in Odisha. The police traced eight of the stolen statues, three intact, rest melted. The thief had told the police during an interrogation that he sold off seven statues to a prominent jeweler of Chhattisgarh, whose family also owns a jewellery business empire across the country. One individual, Subhash alias Raja Sancheti, was arrested. As it turned out, Sancheti was only the front man for the owners of the jewellery shop. The man behind Sancheti – his brother-in-law, one of the owners of the business empire – was also named by the thief.

The Karnataka police sought to arrest him, but he evaded them, pleading ‘sickness’. Meanwhile, the firm distanced itself from Sancheti claiming he was a franchisee and that the firm was not involved in this case. The police had to go back without recovering the idols.

This has left the Jains a worried lot. They suspect that with every passing day the chances of the recovery of the statues are receding. Some feel it has already been smuggled out of the country. Despite their repeated pleas the state government has not acted against the person. The Jain community here believes he is being protected by one of the powerful ministers in the Raman Singh cabinet.

“They know who has got the stolen statues, so why can’t they simply arrest him and recover the statues,” says Nirmal Kumar Jain Sethi. In the last three months many important seers and community leaders have descended on Raipur, the capital of Chhattisgarh to make the government face dharnas and processions. The most important visitor was the seer Vivek Sagar, who charged the state government of “protecting the culprits” and announced a fast till the idols are recovered. Every important person in Raipur visited him during his stay in Raipur including two senior ministers who went specifically to request him (unsuccessfully) to give up fast. One minister who made news by not visiting was Rajesh Munat – the only Jain representative in the Raman Singh cabinet for the last 10 years.

Vivek Sagar has appealed to his followers not to come out to vote in the November-December assembly elections if nothing comes out of his and the community’s efforts to make the government sit up, take action and recover the stolen statues. The incident is bringing both the Jain sects together. Lokesh Kawaria, general secretary of Jain Chaturmas Samiti in Raipur and a Shwetambar himself, claimed that he had participated in the procession to the Raj Bhawan under the leadership of the Digambar seer.

The RSS-BJP has reasons not to be happy with the prospects of the line of political division blurring. “The Digambars have, as a rule of thumb, been closer to the Congress and the Shwetambars to the RSS and through them to the BJP,” says Gajendra Jain, the Chhattisgarh state president of the Digambar Jain Mahasabha. If the stolen idols are not recovered quickly, it could affect the BJP’s poll prospects.

Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/india/why-the- ... ef_article

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 11 Oct 2013 19:56

Gloom at RC Rd.,with the Nobel PP awarded to the Chemical weapons watchdog the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) .The Norwegian Nobel Committee said that the Peace Prize had been awarded to the OPCW for its extensive efforts to eliminate chemical weapons.
Despite being the favourite, Pakistan’s Malala Yousafzai did not win the prize but in the run-up to the announcement, the 16-year-old won the hearts of people around the world. Malala over the course of the last week appeared on several television channels and not only advocated her cause of education for all, but also projected a positive image of Pakistan.

However,there is one slender chance for the current incumbent ,that is if he can survive the efforts on within his own party to depsoe him before the 2014 hustings.In the short time left for "Dustbin-Man",if he could pull off a miraculous win (aka loss) with Pak across (and under) the table,thanks to Mr."Back-handa", and with a shuffling of the pack of jokers of the Paki army also taking place,the new uniformed dispensation might give the Sherrif some extra time to woo the local populace and avoid another thrashing on the ground.

Sad day too for the vulture.He has been pipped at the post by another as Paki for the comfy post of ambassador to Uncle Sam.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Oct 2013 19:58

BJP prime ministerial candidate Narendra Modi’s remark that he was a ‘Hindu nationalist’ stirred a debate earlier this year, but the Jammu and Kashmir high court has ruled that any person claiming affiliation with any form of religious nationalism shall be barred from contesting elections.

“In our constitutional scheme, a citizen of India is only an Indian. No person can claim himself to be a Hindu nationalist, Muslim nationalist, Sikh nationalist, Buddhist nationalist or a Christian nationalist,” justice Muzaffar Hussain Attar said in the ruling on Thursday.

“The constitutional provision is loud and clear (about it) and in unambiguous terms forbids using such expression,” he added.

Justice Attar said a very serious and potential threat is posed to the very existence of the idea of India by “the fringe elements, who take cover under various types of ‘isms’ other than Indianism”.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-new ... 33976.aspx

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Oct 2013 19:59

Self del double post.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 11 Oct 2013 20:22

Hinduism is not religion and the same Sindhu=>Hindu=>India analogy should be clear.

Hinduism is inclusive not exclusive and in fact reinforces India and Indian ethos rather than exclisivists. The pseudo seculars have not made this clear while pretending to be seculars.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 11 Oct 2013 23:55

Indianism”. is a fake word.