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http://www.dailypioneer.com/233183/Pois ... rvest.html

Poison seed, toxic harvest

Sandhya Jain
Public concerns about BT Brinjal cannot be dismissed; the survival of the Indian farmer and people is at stake. The experience with BT Cotton is anyway disastrous. BT Cotton has failed in Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh, and is synonymous with farmer suicides there; nearly two lakh farmers committed suicide in the decade between 1997 and 2007, because of the sheer debts incurred raising the crop.

To begin with, the seed’s USP — resistance to pestsis untrue. BT-resistant pests, especially bollworm, and Roundup-tolerant super-weeds are growing worldwide, making GM seeds useless. Moreover, GM seeds cost many times more than traditional organic seeds and are lesser in quantity. The seeds from the standing crop are sterile and cannot be used for the next year’s crop as in traditional farming; this compels eternal farmer-dependence upon companies for seed, thus eternally perpetuating corporate profits! The ultimate aim is to bring all agriculture under bondage of a few Western firms.

Nor is there guarantee of harvest; the crop can fail for various reasons. GM crops need double or triple the quantity of water needed by traditional seeds, and can fail in the event of water shortage. The marketing companies claim that the crops do not need fertilizers, but the reality is different; hence the indebtedness that drives farmers to despair. Land once used for GM crops can only accept GM seeds thereafter and, after three or four harvests, the land becomes barren.

The GM experience is thus an aggravated form of the disaster now visiting Punjab, where the soil has been ravaged by Green Revolution-induced fertilizer and pesticide poison, which has leeched into the underground water and is causing an epidemic of cancers and other diseases, the true dimensions of which are being concealed by the Government. The false prosperity of two generations has wrought untold disaster; yet the Government is flirting with this poison seed.
Most important, however, genetically modified organisms can contaminate all traditional varieties of crop, which cannot be reversed. Western environmentalists suggest this is part of a huge conspiracy to give complete control of world food supplies to a handful of firms, and that the menace should be nipped in the bud before it is too late.
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Ban the organizations that propagate against other religions
Justice Somasekhara commission submitted its interim report on 2008-Church-Attacks issue. It recommended that any religious/non-religious organization that propagate against other religions must be banned.
Read it All

:rotfl:

Then they have to ban the Churches and Madarsas that propagate against Hinduism, first.
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RamaY,

OT but is this site hosted in India? Check the map of India at the top right corner. Non inclusion of the entire northeast does show the mentality of the webmasters, no?
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Abhi_G,

It is very funny. GoKarnataka setsup this commission, and they put their own website outside GOI network? I dont know how this works but this shows how f*up the situation is.

I hope K'taka govt makes note of this and provide a standard template for these jhollawalahs so that basic information such as India map are maintained properly.

That is the state of affairs in India.
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The J&K map is distorted and without PoK on that GoI website.
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Abhi_G wrote:http://www.dailypioneer.com/233183/Pois ... rvest.html

Poison seed, toxic harvest

Sandhya Jain
Public concerns about BT Brinjal cannot be dismissed; the survival of the Indian farmer and people is at stake. The experience with BT Cotton is anyway disastrous. BT Cotton has failed in Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh, and is synonymous with farmer suicides there; nearly two lakh farmers committed suicide in the decade between 1997 and 2007, because of the sheer debts incurred raising the crop.

To begin with, the seed’s USP — resistance to pestsis untrue. BT-resistant pests, especially bollworm, and Roundup-tolerant super-weeds are growing worldwide, making GM seeds useless. Moreover, GM seeds cost many times more than traditional organic seeds and are lesser in quantity. The seeds from the standing crop are sterile and cannot be used for the next year’s crop as in traditional farming; this compels eternal farmer-dependence upon companies for seed, thus eternally perpetuating corporate profits! The ultimate aim is to bring all agriculture under bondage of a few Western firms.

Nor is there guarantee of harvest; the crop can fail for various reasons. GM crops need double or triple the quantity of water needed by traditional seeds, and can fail in the event of water shortage. The marketing companies claim that the crops do not need fertilizers, but the reality is different; hence the indebtedness that drives farmers to despair. Land once used for GM crops can only accept GM seeds thereafter and, after three or four harvests, the land becomes barren.

The GM experience is thus an aggravated form of the disaster now visiting Punjab, where the soil has been ravaged by Green Revolution-induced fertilizer and pesticide poison, which has leeched into the underground water and is causing an epidemic of cancers and other diseases, the true dimensions of which are being concealed by the Government. The false prosperity of two generations has wrought untold disaster; yet the Government is flirting with this poison seed.
Most important, however, genetically modified organisms can contaminate all traditional varieties of crop, which cannot be reversed. Western environmentalists suggest this is part of a huge conspiracy to give complete control of world food supplies to a handful of firms, and that the menace should be nipped in the bud before it is too late.

Already attempts to contaminate with BT Brinjal in Gujrat


From GMO thread - Joshvajohn
In Medhasan village of North Gujarat many farmers are complaining that Maharashtra Hybrid Seed Company (Mahyco), a big-time promoter of the hybrid seeds, has provided some of them Bt brinjal seeds to 'try out' in their fields.

Even though such reports have not been verified by any authority in Gujarat yet, farmers who are against the introduction of Bt brinjal express the fear that sooner than later some cultivators in Gujarat might start producing illegal Bt brinjal crop, just like they had done some years back in case of Bt cotton.
http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2 ... rinjal.htm
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Putting this here because this is really relevant to Indian interests.
Video of BT. Cotton and what is happening to Indian farmers. Scary. Seems like non BT seeds have disappeared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iv9RHv6 ... re=related


Infact watch the whole series - the world according to Monsanto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hErvV5YEHkE
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RamaY wrote:Abhi_G,

It is very funny. GoKarnataka setsup this commission, and they put their own website outside GOI network? I dont know how this works but this shows how f*up the situation is.

I hope K'taka govt makes note of this and provide a standard template for these jhollawalahs so that basic information such as India map are maintained properly.

That is the state of affairs in India.
Is there a way to email this judge?
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RamaY wrote
Then they have to ban the Churches and Madarsas that propagate against Hinduism, first.
Not really! The corresponding "religions" claim the right to propagate against "other faiths" as part of "God's work" and a core part of their religion. Since the commission and the Constitution as well as GOI and the judiciary obviously accepts them as valid and recognized "religions" in India, the "banning" rule will not apply to those two religions.
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What a tragedy.We could've done far more to have kept this jewel of humanity alive for posterity.60+ years after independence,we must ask,did we do enough for them?
Last of the Bo takes her language to the grave as 65,000-year-old tribe dies out
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The last member of a unique tribe that inhabited the Andaman Islands for as long as 65,000 years has died of old age — taking to the grave with her one of the country’s many endangered languages.

Boa Sr, who died last week aged about 85, was the last member of the Bo — one of the ten Great Andamanese tribes that are considered indigenous inhabitants of the islands, which lie 750 miles off the east coast of India.

She was the oldest of all the Great Andamanese tribespeople, who now number only 52 among the archipelago’s total population of about 300,000, the vast majority of whom are recent immigrants from mainland India.

She was also the last speaker of the Bo language, which is distinct from those of the other Great Andamanese tribes, according to Anvita Abbi, a professor of linguistics at Jawaharlal National University in Delhi.

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Professor Abbi, who had known Boa since 2005, said that she had been losing her sight in recent years and was unable to converse with anyone in her own language since the other surviving Bo speaker died several years ago.

“She was the only person left who spoke Bo,” Professor Abbi told The Times. “At times, she felt very isolated and lonely as she had no one to talk to in her own language.” Boa had no children, and her husband died several years ago.

She could, however, communicate with others in a local version of Hindi and in Great Andamanese, which is an amalgam of all the ten tribal languages, according to Professor Abbi.

“We had an odd relationship, but also a very intense one,” she said.

“I spent a long time with her in the jungle and shared many moments with her. She was very proud to be the last member of the Bo.”

The loss of Boa and her mother tongue highlights the plight of the indigenous people on the Andaman and Nicobar Islands, a key Indian naval outpost that foreigners can visit only with a special permit.

The only indigenous tribe that is relatively intact is the Sentinelese, who ban any contact with outsiders and were famously photographed firing arrows at an Indian helicopter after the Boxing Day tsunami in 2004.

Genetic studies suggest that the islands’ indigenous tribes are the descendants of early humans who migrated from Africa to the sub-continent and then to South East Asia about 70,000 years ago.

There were about 5,000 Great Andamanese living on the islands when the British colonised them in 1858. Many were either killed, or died of diseases carried by the colonists.

Initially, the British used the islands as penal colonies where they imprisoned leaders of the 1857 Indian Mutiny and other Indian freedom fighters, many of them in the infamous Cellular Jail in Port Blair.

They also tried to “civilise” the tribes by moving many of them to one island and forcing them to live in an “Andaman Home”.

Of the 150 children born in the home, none lived beyond the age of 2, according to Survival International, a group that campaigns for the rights of indigenous people.

Boa was born in the jungle of the northern Andamans and grew up in traditional society, learning to gather wild potatoes and hunt for wild pigs, turtles and fish.

In the mid-1970s, the Indian Government moved the Great Andamanese tribes to a single island near Port Blair. She then lived in a government-provided hut with concrete walls and a tin roof, surviving on state food rations and a pension of about 500 rupees (£6.80) a month.

“She always said she wanted to go back to the place where she was born,” Professor Abbi said. “Alcohol was a big problem. It was killing them one by one.” She said that Boa also told her she felt the neighbouring Jarawa tribe, which is still relatively numerous, was lucky to live in the forest away from the settlers.

Boa survived the tsunami of December 2004, which killed 3,513 people on the islands, and told linguists afterwards: “We were all there when the earthquake came. The eldest told us ‘the Earth would part, don’t run away or move’.”

The king of the Bo tribe died in 2005, leaving only a handful of elderly members who also died over the next five years.

Stephen Corry, director of Survival International, urged the Indian Government not to resettle any the Jawara or other indigenous tribes, and to allow them more say in their own lives. “With the death of Boa Sr and the extinction of the Bo language, a unique part of human society is now just a memory,” he said.

“Boa’s loss is a bleak reminder that we must not allow this to happen to the other tribes of the Andaman Islands.”

Plight of the Andamanese

• The Andamanese tribes had little contact with the outside world until the mid-19th century because of their reputation for hostility

• Their small height, dark pigmentation and unusual hair categorise them as part of the “Negrito” peoples of Africa and Asia.

• The Great Andamanese, once ten linked tribes, now number 52. They were moved to the tiny Strait Island in 1970 by India; many suffer from alcoholism

• Of the other Andaman tribes, the Jarawa are one of the most endangered. Their 200-300 strong population has had some contact with the outside world since 1998. They live in nomadic bands and hunt pigs and lizards

• The Sentinelese live on their own island, North Sentinel, and have no contact with outsiders, attacking any who come near. After the 2004 tsunami they were photographed and shown around the world firing arrows at a helicopter

• The Onge of Little Andaman Island call themselves En-iregale, meaning “perfect person”, and now number about 100

Sources: Survival International, International Journal of Human Genetics, American Journal of Human Genetics
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 015540.ece
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As an extension to the above post,same link,an interesting scientific study of Indian ethnic and "caste" origins.Though there will be considerable controversy about northies being "higher" and southies being "lower",from the findings,the sheer diversity of India's population is what is truly exciting and what must be preserved in our nation's interests.
India’s caste system descended from two tribes ‘not colonialism’
Mark Henderson Science Editor

Genetic profiling shows that the structure of Indian society today reflects early social groupings, not just colonialism India’s caste system is not a relic of colonialism but has existed in some form for thousands of years, the most comprehensive study yet of the genetic diversity of the sub-continent has suggested.

The genetic profiles typical of modern castes are indistinguishable from those of much older tribal groups, Indian and American scientists have found. This suggests that they emerged from populations of shared ancestry who have married among themselves for many generations.

The researchers wrote in the journal Nature: “Some historians have argued that caste in modern India is an ‘invention’ of colonialism, in the sense that it became more rigid under colonial rule. However, our results indicate that many current distinctions among groups are ancient and that strong endogamy [marriage within a group] must have shaped marriage patterns in India for thousands of years.”

Kumarasamy Thangaraj, of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) in Hyderabad, and a leader of the study, said: “It is impossible to distinguish castes from tribes using the data. The genetics proves that they are not systematically different. This supports the view that castes grew directly out of tribal-like organisations during the formation of Indian society.”

Researchers analysed more than 500,000 genetic markers from 132 people from 25 different groups.

The research established that modern Indians of all castes are descended from two ancestral groups.

Indians can trace between 39 per cent and 71 per cent of their ancestry to a population known as the Ancestral Northern Indians (ANI), who are quite closely related to Europeans and Asians. Those with a higher ancestral contribution from the ANI group are more likely to belong to higher castes, and to speak Indo-European languages such as Hindi and Bengali.

The other ancient population are the Ancestral Southern Indians (ASI), who are not genetically close to any group outside the sub-continent. People with a higher ASI ancestry are more likely to belong to lower castes, and to speak non Indo-European languages such as Tamil.

The research, by scientists from CCMB in India and Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the United States, has also established that Indians are much more genetically diverse than Europeans.

This result indicates that many modern Indian groups are descended from a small number of “founding individuals”, whose descendants interbred among themselves to create genetically isolated populations.

Lalji Singh, director of CCMB, said: “India is genetically not a single large population, but instead is best described as many smaller isolated populations.”

This insight has important medical implications for people of Indian origin, because groups that are descended from small founding populations often have a high incidence of inherited diseases. Ashkenazi Jews, for example, have a high risk of Tay-Sachs disease.

This may explain why several genetic conditions are more common in India than elsewhere: a mutation in a gene called MYBPC3, which raises the risk of heart failure sevenfold, is found in 4 per cent of Indians but is exceptionally rare elsewhere.

The only ethnic group who do not have this shared ancestry is the indigenous population of the Andaman Islands in the Indian Ocean, who appear to be of exclusively ASI descent.

Nick Patterson, of the Broad Institute of Harvard and MIT, said: “The Andamanese are unique. Understanding their origins provides a window on to the history of the Ancestral South Indians, and the period tens of thousands of years ago when they diverged from other Eurasians.”

Mr Singh added: “Our project to sample the disappearing tribes of the Andaman Islands has been more successful than we could have hoped, as the Andamanese are the only surviving remnant of the ancient colonisers of South Asia.”

Aravinda Chakravarti, of Johns Hopkins School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland, wrote in a commentary for Nature: “Greater ANI ancestry is significantly associated with Indo-European speakers and with traditionally ‘higher’ caste membership. This provides a model of how diversity within India came about. As such, its details are imperfect and will surely be contested, revised and improved.

“Caste and custom may be strong barriers between groups, perhaps even today. But the common shared ancestry and rampant ANI/ASI mixture may be the strong, invisible thread that binds all Indians.”
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Manmohan: need for bold commitments on emission cuts : http://www.hindu.com/2010/02/06/stories ... 610100.htm

It is surreal to watch ostensibly respectable people like MMS chanting mantras supporting the warming fraud - even when most thinking people realize that it is 400% garbage.

The interesting question is what are the levers of power and loyalty that compel him to make such fool of himself.
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I did not know where to post this but here goes:

Ra(h)ul gets ready to become the next Emperor of India
Mumbai: Though he took fast locals on the western and central lines of Mumbai’s suburban train service on Friday, Rahul Gandhi, 39, does not seem to be a man in a hurry.

But, if sources in the All India Congress Committee (AICC) and the party are to be believed, Gandhi’s ‘rail’ show in Mumbai could be the beginning of moves to anoint him as Manmohan Singh’s replacement in the course of time. The debate, insiders say, is whether to change the leadership in the middle of the present Lok Sabha or go in for mid-term elections, with Rahul Gandhi as future leader. :eek: {at the cost of 6000 crores? what kind of irresponsibility is this??? Shame on us Indians if we allow this shit to happen}

Gandhi, an MP and AICC general secretary, after his pre-2009 elections tour (christened Discovery of India) has embarked on a mission to rebuild the Youth Congress across India. Shortly after his tour of Bihar, he visited Maharashtra and then proceeded to Puducherry. An insider said, “He is going to cover the entire country.”

The goal of the organisation is to elevate Gandhi to the office of prime minister, Congress insiders say. In all probability, the change will happen mid-stream in the current Lok Sabha. {This is not democracy! How low can Kangraze stoop, I just hope we had reliable and strong alternatives to Kangraze} A senior functionary said, “A section within the party feels when Rahul takes charge as prime minister he should have the absolute mandate of the Congress. In that sense, rebuilding of the organisation is significant — which means he will have a new team.”

But there are others who feel Manmohan Singh could pave the way for him when the time is right mid-term to ensure smooth change of guard.

Although the Congress leaders described Friday’s local train commute as a spontaneous decision, insiders maintained it was a part of the well-calculated strategy aimed at cocking a snook at Shiv Sena and Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS). By taking the train, the youth leader wanted to connect to the middle and lower middle class of Mumbai, apart from raising the question: “Which Thackeray has boarded a local train till date?”

A senior leader based in Delhi said, “It reminds me of his great grandfather Jawaharlal Nehru. He would always get into masses and await their verdict. Today, what Rahul did was to let Mumbai judge him through his actions.” {Hope the verdict for Kangraze in the next election is out of office!!!}
Makes me wanna buy some purgative and puke out that sick feeling I have gotten in my stomach now. The future does not look very bright.
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http://www.dailypioneer.com/234632/Budd ... -jobs.html

Buddhadeb announces reservation for Muslims in Govt jobs

On a day when the Andhra Pradesh High Court struck down job reservation for Muslims, the West Bengal Government on Monday announced 10 per cent quota in employment for the community under the OBC category.

The State Government declared the quota for the Muslims who were educationally, socially and economically backward in the state.

"We have decided to accept the recommendations of the Ranganath Mishra Commission and will take steps to implement it," Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee told newsmen at the state secretariat without waiting for the Centre's decision on the report.

He said like other states there was reservation for SCs, STs and OBCs in the state. The Government, he said, had begun the process of identifying Muslims who were educationally, socially and economically backward. There was 7 per cent reservation for OBCs in the state.
Left Front chairman Biman Bose had said that reservation was wanted for socially and economically backward Muslims and not on the basis of religion.

The announcement for reservation comes ahead of elections to the Kolkata Municipal Corporation and 82 municipalities in May-June this year which are seen as the 'semi-final' before next year's assembly polls in the state.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/234504/High ... adesh.html
High Court quashes muslims reservation in Andhra Pradesh

The third consecutive attempt of Andhra Pradesh Government to provide 4% reservations to the socially and economically backward classes of Muslims in the State too has failed.
A seven member bench of Andhra Pradesh High Court headed by the Chief Justice A R Dave struck down the “Andhra Pradesh Reservation in Favor of socially and Educational Backward Classes of Muslims Act 2007” as unsustainable and unconstitutional and quashed the two GOs providing 4% reservations to 15 backward classes of Muslims in jobs and educational institutions. The judgment was supported by five judges while two disagreed with it.
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Lakshmikanth ji,

Your {} notes in paras 1 and 2 are contradictory. In Para1 you opine that Rs 6000 crore is too much a price to pay for PM change, and in para2 you question the indirect election of PM by MPs.

It is a good idea to go for re-election with Rahul baba as PM candidate. While it is acceptable for a PM change within the 5 year term in parliamentary democracy, given the dynastic nature of this change and possible repercussions on Indian interests the Rs 6,000cr reelection process is justifiable.
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MIM workers stage dharna against ruling on quota
All the political parties in Andhra Pradesh, except the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), have expressed concern over the High Court’s judgment striking down four per cent reservation for Muslims and demanded that the government take necessary measures to see that the quota was restored.

A.P. Congress Committee president D. Srinivas said the party was committed to implementation of reservations and the government would appeal against the judgment after rectifying the shortcomings, if any, in presenting its case in the court. He dismissed the claims that the quota was introduced with an eye on elections.

The Telugu Desam Party held the government responsible for the judgment alleging that the ruling party had promised the quota only as a poll ploy, while the policy (ordinance) was full of deficiencies.

This was evident from the fact that the court had not found fault with reservation as such, but gave judgment against the way the policy was framed.
There seems to be always consensus on all the matters which may prove to be the most dangerous to the future of the country. In the end the external threats may turnout to be more manageable than the internal threats arising from lack of integrity and sense of national character among the so called politicians ruling India.
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The "Poisioning of India Part-3" (Part-1 was parthenium weed thanks to PL_480,Part-2 was Bhopal) might be just around the corner if the US's interests prevail and the shameless "scientists" fat on US funding force the gOI's hand.If JR is smart,he will go the popular way,which is to ban it for a generation.The states that have already banned GM foods will defy any greeen light and we will see eco-warriros adding to the Red Brigade of Naxalites joining the wars.
India to rule on future of aubergine as country's first genetically modified food• Minister to make key decision on major crop
• Broad alliance takes on Monsanto subsidiary

Jason Burke in Delhi

A Greenpeace activist dressed as an aubergine protests against the possible cultivation of Bt brinjal - India's first GM food crop Photograph: Aijaz Rahi/AP

A fierce row over the future of the humble aubergine, staple ingredient of fiery brinjal curries for tens of millions of Indians, will reach a climax on Wednesday with a key government decision on the possible future commercial cultivation of genetically-modified strains of the plant. If permission is given, the aubergine will become the first GM foodstuff to be grown in India.

The decision will be taken by the environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, who pledged last year to end the heated argument over whether aubergines modified with a gene from the soil bacteria Bacillus thuringiensis should be distributed to Indian farmers.

An alliance of voices ranging from environmentalists to leftwing politicians and Hindu extremists have called on Ramesh to deny permission for the commercial cultivation of the Bt Brinjal strain, named after the bacteria and the local word for aubergine.

"It will open the gate," said Leo Saldanha, an environmental campaigner in the southern city of Bengalooru. "It raises huge legal and cultural issues."

The decision Ramesh takes will reveal how far "India was willing to allow the farmer to be subordinated to corporate interests", he said.

Ramesh told one of the many rowdy meetings he has attended as part of a public consultation exercise that trying to reconcile the opposing camps had "turned [his] hair grey".

Aubergine is a major crop in India, where it has been cultivated for thousands of years. Though not native it is seen as an integral part of culture and diet, particularly of the poor.

Backers claim the modified aubergines would cut crop losses due to insect damage by more than half and drastically reduce pesticide use. They argue also that extensive animal testing has shown that the bacterium introduced into the aubergine, though toxic to boring insects, would not be harmful to humans.

Campaigners question the evidence, and argue that commercial interests have overly influenced the regulatory process. They say the 2,000-odd varieties of aubergine cultivated in India would be threatened if Bt Brinjal was introduced. "It is a hugely important decision, not just for India, for the whole world," said Dr Shiva Vandana, director of a network of groups campaigning against GM foods in India, and a key figure in the development of international biosafety treaties. "The question is whether or not public opinion will be listened to."

The seeds have been developed by Indian scientists but will be marketed by the Maharashtra Hybrid Seed Company, an Indian firm partly owned by the US multinational Monsanto - the cause of much criticism and controversy.

The southern state of Kerala, run by an alliance of opposition leftwing parties, has already banned GM crops on the grounds that they are a threat to biodiversity.

Last week, the state's Marxist chief minister, VS Achuthanandan, claimed GM foods would lead to the "colonisation of the food sector.

"We shouldn't be a part of a system that will destroy traditional seeds and crops and allow [multinational corporations] to infringe on the agriculture sector," he said.

Hindu nationalists from the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) have also taken up the aubergine's cause. Mohan Bhagwat, a senior RSS official, told a public meeting in Bengalooru last weekend that Bt Brinjal was "untested" and "dangerous" andits introduction would only benefit "the multinationals". He likened the new aubergines to "terrorist infiltrators" sent by foreign powers to destabilise India.

Government scientists have, however, told ministers that Bt Brinjal poses no threat. "Our experts examined the science behind Bt Brinjal and concluded that it is absolutely safe. The only thing that hasn't been done is human testing," Dr Maharaj Kishan Bhan, a senior research scientist at the ministry of science and technology said. "You can take a philosophical view that all GM foods are bad ‑ but from a scientific point of view I would say it is fine."

GM crops have a chequered history in India, alternately praised as yield-boosting or suicide-inducing. Trials of a Bt cotton found it needed 70% less pesticide and gave 87% more crop than traditional plants. It was made by Monsanto, who provoked uproar by taking a patent over nap hal, wheat particularly suited to chapatis, but saying it had no plans to exploit the patent. The bitterest row has involved the claim, by Prince Charles among others, that failing GM crops led to suicides among farmers. Analysis by the International Food Policy Research Institute found that, if anything, the reverse was true. By 2006, Bt cotton covered 39% of cotton area, with yield doubled. India is the world's second largest cotton producer.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/fe ... -aubergine

PS:But what about the monopoly the MNC now has over BT cotton and the control of its price as there are no indigenous cotton seeds available?

PPS:Our new delight!
India's new delicacy: a 45-day-old tomato

By Andrew Buncombe in Dehli
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 93333.html
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On Muslim reservations issue:

Only BJP and its sibling parties expressed happiness at High Court verdict. Every other political party (INC, TDP, CPI, CPM, PRP, TRS, MIM and what not) question High Court ruling. Some even propose constitutional amendment.

Dont know where this nonsense will end.
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Hooray! It's "brinjals" for GM brinjals !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... plans.html
India drops GM food plans
India has dropped plans to release the country's first genetically modified food crop because of fears over the long-term effects on human health.

By Dean Nelson in New Delhi
Published: 12:36PM GMT 09 Feb 2010

An anti-GM protestor dressed as an aubergine waits for the arrival of Indian Union Minister for Environment and Forests Jairam Ramesh Photo: GETTY IMAGES The environment minister had been expected to announce the go-ahead for GM aubergine, known in India as Bt brinjal, after a government committee of scientific experts announced its backing.

Since then farmers have led a national campaign against the proposal, citing concerns over the effects of long-term human consumption and the impact on farmers who would have to buy the seeds from an Indian partner of the American biotech giant Monsanto. They claim it would leave farmers poorer and lead to more suicides.

The new variety was created to minimise crop destruction by insects and reduce pesticide use. It contains a toxic protein which kills fruit and shoot borers, which is destroyed during cooking and in the human gut.

Its approval would have paved the way for more than 50 other genetically-modified crops currently being developed.

Jairam Ramesh said more independent studies on the impact on human health were needed before it could be commercially released.

"There is no overriding urgency to introduce it ... When the public sentiments have been negative, it is my duty to adopt a cautious, precautionary and principle-based approach," he said.

"I will not impose a decision till such time independent scientific studies establish safety of the product from long-term view of human health."
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The Clan continuing with their business as usual

After Digvijay, Rahul Gandhi to visit Azamgarh
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India-China confluence: Ushering in a new golden era
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/200 ... 390900.htm
The vista stretching before India and China, if only they join hands and march in step, is unparalleled in its grandeur.
(And the KLPD of high degree)

Let us come to specifics and look at a concrete, plausible scenario from India’s perspective by way of illustration. Let us assume that India decides to unfasten itself from the US and makes happy and harmonious relations with China the pivot of its foreign policy. Imagine what a powerful magnet it will be for all the currently dormant constructive forces in the world at large. t will receive nothing but joyous welcome from Russia, an influential power straddling both Europe and Asia, which has consistently been a true and genuine friend of India in fair weather and foul, and even taken an understanding view of its strategic partnership with the US.
Political nettle
Beyond a scintilla of doubt, there can be no definitive solution without give-and-take of territories on either side. The formula that has the best chance of success is accepting the status quo in the western and northern sectors, and ceding Tawang to China, with the McMahon Line being taken as the basis for delineating the boundary on the east without prejudice to its legitimacy or otherwise.
This also broadly corresponds to the ‘Heixiazi’ formula (used to settle the Sino-Russian border) advocated by Professor Zhou Shixin of the Shanghai International Studies University.
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negi wrote:The Clan continuing with their business as usual

After Digvijay, Rahul Gandhi to visit Azamgarh
They are consolidating the votebanks for the elections.
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X-Post

Lesson for India
We're All Infidels Now
http://townhall.com/columnists/LarryKel ... fidels_now

In 346 B.C., prior to the conquest of the Greek mainland by the armies of Macedon, Greek ambassadors agreed to a treaty called the Peace of Philocrates. After years of negotiations, the terms of the treaty allowed Macedon to absorb still more land—two very small city-states, Phocis and Alos. It proscribed that the Greeks stand by while their fellow Greeks of two small states were absorbed in the fashion of the ancient world, where many members of the leadership were executed and many of the women and children sold into slavery. Gone were the final two buffer states standing between central Greece and the invading armies from the north. With these two remaining obstacles out of the way, Macedon could prepare for the all-out invasion
For thousands of years, the attempt at appeasement is a recurring factor in the fall of civilizations. When appeasement is attempted by a state that is confronted by an outside aggressor, the attempt is not only fruitless but it is a signal to the aggressor that the time to strike is now.
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X-posted...
SwamyG wrote:Dirty laundry at the Times of India
MUMBAI - It's official: the world's largest-circulated English daily has been involved in some shady business. Exposing a long-known trade fact, a leading Mumbai English tabloid, Mid-Day, last week published the "rates" for purchasing editorial features in the Times of India. The Times has not issued a denial, and the rogue rate card seems to be the latest indicator of rotting media ethics and tolerance in India for corruption.

For sums ranging from US$45,000 to $66,000, the Mid-Day story alleged, one could buy a news feature plugging their business, get interviewed (the business owner supplies the questions and answers themselves) and have their picture published on the much-scorned Page 3 of the Bombay Times, the city supplement of the Times of India.
Wonder how much for Aman ki Tamasha? I think this item needs more publicity.
And who else is doing this to keep theri bottom line in the black. And what about individual journalists?

The press is supposed to be the Fourth Estate or the Fourth pillar. Looks like they are turning out to be the Fifth Column!
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Remembered this quote today

“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” Abraham Lincoln (1809–1865)
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Wages of indifference Ananthanageswaran writing in The Mint
(The Middle Class) needs to display sufficient grasp of the common thread between price rise, budget deficit and security threat. All three are marked by a failure of governance. Failure of governance is as much a failure of the government as it is a failure of the governed to be engaged
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A blog post, requesting indulgence. Criticism of St Antony's Priorities
Arakkaparambil Kurian Antony, who is more bothered about his spotless mundu and shirt, not getting soiled, than modernisation of the armed forces, said he could not reveal the inventory of his armed forces otherwise he was not fit to be Defence Minister
The Minister ensures there are adequate Kerala media houses when he does something, so that back-home he gets enough publicity in the local language, whether he gets it in the national media is secondary
This one guy can bring down years of hardwork by many!
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One more voice - this one by Ajai Shukla
The cost of Antony's halo
After Neville Chamberlain had miserably failed to reign in Hitler in 1939, British MP Leo Amery echoed the words of Oliver Cromwell in calling for Chamberlain’s head at a memorable session of the British Parliament: “You have sat here too long for any good you are doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”
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“You cannot escape the responsibility of tomorrow by evading it today.” Abraham Lincoln (1809–1865)
sure you can.

you just got to be smart in passing on the responsibility to some sucker at the right time.
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It's always an idealist who puts his hopes on the future for solving the problems of the present. Like our first prime minister:

"We are superior to Pakistan in military and industrial power. But that superiority is not so great as to produce results quickly either in war or by fear of war. Therefore, our national interest demands that we should adopt a peaceful policy towards Pakistan and, at the same time, add to our strength. Strength ultimately comes not from the defence forces, but the industrial and economic background behind them. As we grow in strength, and we are likely to do so, Pakistan will feel less and less inclined to threaten or harass us, and a time will come when, through sheer force of circumstances, it will be in a mood to accept a settlement which we consider fair, whether in Kashmir or elsewhere."

This was stated by Mr. Nehru at the time of the Nehru-Liaquat talks in 1955. Nehru the idealist could be swayed by fluffy arguments on morality, diplomacy, international status, etc. but not the pragmatic Patel. Consider the Junagadh stand-off in 1947.

The British C-in-C's of the Indian Armed Forces protested that "the Indian Army for a variety of reasons was in no position to successfully conduct large-scale operations." Their argument was that troops were engaged in controlling the Partition riots and the refugee problem. Mountbatten, as usual, proposed that a complaint be lodged with the UN...

Sardar Patel rejected British arguments, saying that possession was nine-tenths of the law and he would never lower India's position by going to any court as a plaintiff. Mountbatten retorted that a clash with Junagadh could lead to escalation and war with Pakistan. But Patel shut him up by saying that Pakistan was in no position to wage a war; and he was proved right.
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I guess this belongs here.

http://jayanpsk.wordpress.com/2010/02/1 ... tegration/
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India’s defence challenges
By John Elliott
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c89d1fda-206c ... ab49a.html
And Ajai Shukla, a former army officer and now a defence journalist, writing in the Business Standard daily newspaper, estimates that “Antony’s halo” is costing India 125 per cent more than is necessary for half the equipment it buys because of price rises and because tenders are sometimes being abandoned in favour of more expensive negotiated deals.

India is the world’s largest buyer of defence equipment, with expenditure budgeted at least at $40bn over the next four years. Half of that is on capital expenditure and is likely to rise around 15 per cent in the finance minister’s annual Budget speech this Friday, even though not all of it is ever spent.

70 per cent bought abroad
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Couldn't find a more apt thread.. so here it goes.
IPL not moving out of India, insists Modi

The beneficiaries crib!!
The report, written by the England team's security advisor Reg Dickason, said there was a credible threat to the tournament from terrorist groups, raising questions over player safety apart from talk of a boycott by international cricketers. The Australian Cricketers' Association has decided to formulate a list of security demands for IPL organisers, following a meeting attended by most Australian players slated to play in the tournament.
Modi puts them in place.
Modi also said that he was not overly concerned by the possibility of overseas players withdrawing from the event. "The heavens aren't going to fall if that happens. This is an Indian tournament; we have the key Indian players and only a few international players."

"We have no worries at all. You have to understand that the market for us is India. "The tournament is a huge success - we have a huge credibility, we have the top 200 players in the world. It's not only dependent on foreign players, although they are part of it, Modi said.
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Yesterday's WSJ has an article on India's agricultural prodictivity and it is ~half of China's per hectare.

Agri sector contributes ~20-30% to Indian GDP. A 20% productivity improvement per year will add atleast 2-3% annual GDP growth. Apparantly recent Urea-subsidy removal is linked to this. I haven't seen any infomercial on this from GOI. I wish they spend money on this type of infomercials instead of mil-sur-me type nonsese, if they did that.

If properly executed, the productivity improvement in agri-sector can pay for all agri-based subsidies on a year by year basis for few years, thus providing ~$30-40B per year budget savings, which can be used on river-linking projects and agri-industry development or infrastructure development.

It is very surprising that so many intelligent and experienced people in babudom and planning commission focus their energies on project execution efficiencies losing precious time.
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From what I was told the truck industry/mafia wants the subsidy and use it for wasteful transporting urea over vast distances. In other words instead of distributing the urea near the fertlizer plants it is trucked to far off places and the fertilizer produced there is also trucked to another far away place.
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The trend continues:
Indian Express report quoted by this blog yesterday was slightly off the mark. It assumed that all the money — Rs 5221 crore — being returned out of the defence budget of 2009-10 was from the capital expenditure account. After the presentation of the budget today, it turns out that 7000 crore has been returned unexpended from the capital defence expenditure account, out of which 5221 crore has been returned to the government coffers and the balance 1779 crore re-appropriated towards revenue expenditure account of the defence budget.
So what does it mean in plain English? It means that the defence ministry [which includes the three service headquarters] was unable to spend 7000 crore out of an allocation of 19118.74 crore for new defence acquisitions in the current year. This is the real figure — 36.6%.
Just for the record, the corresponding figure for the preceding year, i.e. 2008-09 was 38.1%.
Rejoice, for St. Antony’s ministry was able to spend 1.5% more of new defence acquisitions allocation this year compared to the previous one. At this rate of progress, it is just a small matter of 25 years before the defence ministry starts spending all the money within that year. Like this blogger, aren’t you eagerly looking forward to union budget of 2035-36 then?
Source: nationalinterest.in
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Philip wrote:Hooray! It's "brinjals" for GM brinjals !
Not so fast. It appears that there are powerful lobbies that are demanding the right to poison Indians through GM foods, and the good doctor MMS is ever-obliging to anybody wanting to screw SDREs ... Soon you will be thrown into jail if you dare open your mouth to criticize GM poisoning ... see

Criticising GM crops may land you in jail : http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/stor ... zZRCAUTQ==
In an unprecedented muzzle on the right to freedom of speech of the citizen, Chapter 13 section 63 of the draft bill says, “Whoever, without any evidence or scientific record misleads the public about the safety of the organisms and products…shall be punished with imprisonment for a term that shall not be less than six months but which may extend to one year and with fine which may extend to two lakh rupees or with both.” The BRAI Bill drafted by the department of bio-technology under the Ministry of Science and Technology comes on the heels of a moratorium on Bt Brinjal announced by the Environment Minister Jairam Ramesh.

“What they are doing is much worse than what Hitler or Mussolini did. Through this bill, they want to take absolute authority. They are behaving like a vendor instead of a regulator,” Pushpa M Bhargava, a member of the Supreme Court appointed Genetic Engineering Approval Committee (GEAC) said.

There are also other provisions in this bill which are disconcerting.

Article 27 (1) of the bill seeks to keep the information related to the research, approval and science of the GM Products out of the purview of the Right to Information ( RTI) Act.
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Two articles in Outlook - One about UPA-2 being Manmohan and the other about the ugly Azamgarh visit based politics.

Of A Science Called Manmohanology - Manmohan is stamping his own imprint on policy, but that is putting him at odds with the party
Many Congressmen would like UPA-II to be a continuation of UPA-I: a time of “consolidation” in the social sector. Manmohan has more on his mind. He has begun restructuring India’s security team—if not architecture—with the exit of one-time 10 Janpath faithful M.K. Narayanan as national security advisor. Besides, he has sharpened his climate policy, “allowing” his highly regarded special envoy Shyam Saran to quit, signalling which side of the debate he’s on.

More than anything, his unambiguous line on Pakistan—be it Sharm el-Sheikh or his recent decision to resume talks—mirrors his determination to take the issue head-on, in the face of disapproval even from his own party. And despite environment minister Jairam Ramesh claiming party support for his line on Bt brinjal, GM foods are clearly part of the PM’s second Green Revolution blueprint. As for his ushering in a nutrient-based subsidy regime despite disquiet in the cabinet and party, it’s an indication, partymen warn, of things to come in the economic arena.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has already demonstrated that he has a vision of a subcontinent at peace with itself—and he is determined to pursue it. “For the prime minister,” PMO sources told Outlook, “good relations with Pakistan and resolving the Kashmir issue are key to his ambitions of making India a superpower and to the creation of wealth that will make India a more equitable society.” It’s against this backdrop that the controversial Sharm el-Sheikh statement, the determination to resume talks with Pakistan—even after a blast ravaged Pune’s German Bakery—and replacing M.K. Narayanan with Shiv Shankar Menon as NSA need to be viewed.

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The replacement of Narayanan with Menon as NSA, a ministerial source told Outlook, is part of the PM’s new security architecture the PM envisions. It was Menon, this source said, who was pilloried for the Sharm el-Sheikh statement (he was the foreign secretary then and was responsible for the draft) even though the line clearly came from the PM. Now, Menon’s appointment is a signal that that line will prevail, especially as Narayanan, with his background in intelligence, was seen as “too anti-Pakistan”.
Chatwal and the Padma January 2010

PM: Felt NYC hotelier had lobbied effectively for the N-deal in the US and recommended him for the Padma

Party: Uncomfortable with Chatwal's unsavoury past
The Azamgarh Can Of Worms- Digvijay Singh suggestion that Rahul might visit the UP town worries the home ministry, PMO
Congress general secretary Digvijay Singh’s recent visit to Azamgarh should not have evoked much interest, but for his suggestion there that the party’s heir apparent, Rahul Gandhi, would follow suit. Neither the Union home ministry nor the prime minister’s office has taken kindly to the idea. PMO sources told Outlook that such a visit would send a wrong signal to those handling the Batla House encounter case in Delhi, in which all those facing investigations are from the eastern UP town of Azamgarh. This is especially so, said the sources, as M.C. Sharma, the policeman apparently shot dead by the alleged terrorists, has been honoured posthumously: a visit by Rahul to Azamgarh would reopen all the doubts raised at the time about the nature of the “encounter”.
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Whenever there is any clash between Indian interests and those of western elites, MMS always bats for the west. Sometimes it is only the domestic uproar that stops him from screwing Indian interests more - consider for example his dishonesty regarding the nuke deal, the global warming scam, genetically modified foods, Sharm-el-Sheikh, electronic voting machines ... the list is long.

To make matters worse he goes around wearing a thin veneer of pious respectability, as if criticizing him is something akin to cow-slaughter.

There has been some resistance to his policies from within the Congress, but he is gradually easing his side-kicks into key positions. Soon even that feeble resistance will be a thing of the past.

I think it's time to call him a Viceroy rather than a PM.
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