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Klaus wrote:
RamaY wrote: SA-varna, SA-Kula
Kindly elaborate on SA-varna & SA-kula.
Sir, answered here: http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 8#p1689598
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The recent disruptions in Parliament is uncalled for, is grossly uncouth and callous as far real interests are concerned. Here we have inflation sky high, observe the sky high prices of tomatoes, we have coal stocks in our power plants which will hardly last 2-7 days and some nincompoops representatives want to stall parliament because of some activities carried out in some tom dick and Harry desert by two parties who want to throw missiles at each other? Moreover when certain Islamic organisations threw missiles towards Israel, these same nincompoops were eerily silent. This smacks of double standards.
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The jokers need to somehow remain relevant. In this respect they will do what ever they can in order claim 15 minutes of media attention.

The comments of Arun Shauri that the Modi sarkar will need to take the ordinance route of governance for the first 2 years was prophetic. In the light of recent events.
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Arundathi Roy's latest diatribe against Mahatma Gandhi,accusing him of being casteist,etc. is so pathetic and insulting to that great man,that giving it the oxygen of excessive uproar would only serve her purpose to reinvent herself,as she has in recent times retreated from the scene of combat with pen and ink and paled into to a shrunken,shrivelled dried up well of intellect and creative insignificance. Gandhi travelled turd class,cleaned with his own hands toilets,lived with the so-called untouchables and did not celebrate the partition of India,resisting as much as he could its dismemberment.

Will ulcerous and bilious Roy burn her western clothes and wear khadi as Gandhiji did? Will she give up her worldly comforts for a thatched hut? Tell us another! Abusing the land of her birth has been her forte,and now vilifying the humble man who strode its farthest corners like a colossus fighting to free our ancient land from the jackboot of the imperialists clad only in a loin cloth .Ms.Roy by her rantings and ravings wishes to enslave us once more with her muddled mind that can't think beyond applause from from her western audience. Roy is an intestinal parasite of the worst species. She feasts upon the body of our country,seeing only warts and wounds,which in the main are the legacy of centuries of colonial rule and subservience. Rent-girl Roy appears to be doing her white massa's bidding ,trashing Gandhiji for a definite purpose.Trashing him equals trashing his concept of swadeshi,self-reliance,and a nationalistic spirit.

These concepts and a resurgence in Indian pride has coincided with the massive vote for Mr.Modi and a dumping of the servile,shameful policies of chief lackey and Yanqui bootlicker Quisling Singh. The wheel has turned full circle.The attack on Gandhiji is actually a cowardly attack on Mr.Modi and his desire to make India recover its rightful place in the comity of nations strong and self-reliant,no one's rent boy.
Ranting and raving against the "father of the nation" is therefore Roy's strategy to win the approval of her western overlords.She must be in delirious excitement wetting herself like a quadruped in heat in frenzied anticipation of the figures on her pay cheque!

A.Roy should be stripped of her nationality and deported into outer space to that point in the heavens where she once said she truly belonged,not India.

Meanwhile some eminently more sensible advice from veteran journo and security expert Hiranmoy Karlekar.
Putting fear in the minds of enemies
Thursday, 17 July 2014 | Hiranmay Karlekar

http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/ ... emies.html
The Government must without delay clear the creation of a Special Operations Command that will conduct covert operations and unconventional warfare

The report that the Government is likely to approve the establishment of a Special Operations Command to counter terrorism, and conduct unconventional warfare and covert operations, in the country and its neighbourhood, has to be implemented without delay. The need for this, felt for long, was once again underlined on July 10, when Hafiz Saeed, the founder of the terrorist outfits Jamaat-ud-Dawa’ah and Lashkar-e-Tayyeba, had railed against India and the United States at a seminar organised at the Lahore High Court Bar Association building by the Pakistan Justice Party.

The viciousness and falsehood characterising his speech was clearly reflected in his statement that India had sent 25,000 troops to Afghanistan, and more were on the way. “The presence of Indian forces in Pakistan”, he had added, “is a great threat to Pakistan's integrity”. Claiming that the US, which sought to teach Pakistan a lesson by patronising India, was behind the deployment, he had added that “America had also targeted Pakistan's atomic programme while sitting in Afghanistan, but it miserably failed because of the sacrifices of Muslims.”

This was not the first time that Saeed, the mastermind of the 26/11 outrage which killed over 160 persons in Mumbai in November 2008, had gone about openly, threatening and abusing India and the US. On May 28, in a speech at Aabpara Chowk, located a few hundred yards from the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate's headquarters in Islamabad, he asked thousands of his assembled followers to get ready as the “time has come to perform the final jihad against India to free Kashmir from Indian occupation.”

The LeT does not just want the annexation of Kashmir but the ‘restoration’ of Muslim rule all over India and the union of all Muslim-majority regions of the countries surrounding Pakistan.
Hence, besides Jammu & Kashmir, it is active in Chechnya and other parts of Central Asia. Its global network extends from North America to Australia, with units in Germany, the United Kingdom, Iraq, Oman, Bahrain, Dubai and Bangladesh. Allied with Al Qaeda and the Afghan Taliban, it has close links with jihadists in the Philippines, Kosovo, Chechnya, Palestine, Jordan and Southeast Asia.

Saeed, who has a $10 million bounty on his head put by the US, which has also designated the JuD, the LeT and associated organisations and key individuals as terrorists, moves about and rants freely in Pakistan because the Government supports him. This was again underlined by the grant of 350 million Pakistani rupees by Pakistan's Punjab province Government, headed by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's brother, Mr Shahbaaz Sharif, in the 2013-2014 annual budget to the JuD for setting up a ‘knowledge park’.

Saeed's patently false allegation about the presence of 25,000 Indian troops in Afghanistan was clearly a part of an effort to prepare the ground for legitimising Pakistan's direct involvement in an offensive to conquer that country if necessary.
What would India do then, particularly if the JuD and LeT step up, with the blessings of Pakistan's Government, their unconventional war against this country to ‘restore’ Muslim rule all over India — as its agenda states?

Hence the urgency of setting up the Special Operations Command headed by a Lieutenant-General reporting to the National Security Adviser and the Prime Minister's Office. This command will work in close cooperation with the Research & Analysis Wing, as its commandos may have to conduct operations both inside and outside India. This clearly indicates that India has in mind strikes on terrorist camps, even in a neighbouring country, from which attacks are launched on its soil. This knowledge itself may restrain Pakistan, which has been using state-sponsored terrorism as an instrument of governmental policy. If not, the commandos will strike.
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Amazing speech of Sardar Patel in Kolkatta in January 1948. His crystal clear thinking is amazing about all issues facing India at that time, from Kashmir to Junagarh. It is a pleasure to listen to this. Contrast this to that self-claimed "world citizen" and woolly headed philosopher Nehru.

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Iccha With Nishcha: Land Of Coal achidve Its Goal

Power from the Sun: A new life for Dharnai, India
Enter the village and you'll see electric poles all around. The solar micro-grid supplies the electricity for homes, street lighting for roads and lanes, and water pumps.Dharnai is the first village in India where all aspects of life are powered by solar. The 100 kilowatt (kW) system powers the 450 homes of the 2,400 residents, 50 commercial operations, two schools, a training centre and a health care facility. A battery backup ensures power around the clock.The secure power supply of the new solar micro-grid has brought immense benefits to the community. Household lighting, agriculture, business activity and social infrastructures like schools, and health centers all have guaranteed electricity.Reliable electricity in the evening has improved educational opportunities for village children, and brought the safety of street lighting. A dependable power supply has boosted the local economy, and brought a welcome improvement to the social life of the villagersThe better quality of life of Dharnai residents has become the talk of neighbouring villages, all eager to understand and replicate the Dharnai model.
The story of the Greenpeace micro-grid project inspiring. It is unbelievable to see an entire village lit-up by solar energy. It illustrates how, in a country like India, universal energy access can be achieved without compromising the environment with coal pollution.Dharnai shows a way forward for thousands of other villages everywhere which have been left behind. These villages can develop their own clean power and contribute to saving their environment by showing we don't need to use nuclear, coal or other fossil fuels for energy.Dharnai is just the beginning. India has 80,000 more villages that need solar micro-grids. Greenpeace India will work to build greater collaboration to ensure all get access to clean, reliable electricity.There is a story here that goes well beyond India. Hundreds of millions live without electricity. For them, the Dharnai solar-powered micro-grid could be a game-changer, a model for bringing clean, reliable energy to those energy-starved millions.
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Concersan mount over India's Stance at G20 Global Trade meet
Concerns mount over India's stance on global trade pact.
July 19, 2014 9:42 AM

Saudi Arabia's Commerce and Industry Minister Tawfig bin Fouzan Al-Rabiah (L), Russia's Economic Development Minister Alexei Ulyukaev (C) and New Zealand's Trade Minister Tim Groser (R) listen as Australia's Trade and Investment Minister Andrew Robb (not pictured) makes his opening remarks during the G20 Trade Ministers meeting in Sydney July 19, 2014. REUTERS/Rob Griffith/Pool.By Matt Siegel

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Eleventh hour negotiations to win Indian approval for a breakthrough global trade pact may not have succeeded in the end despite initial signs of progress, sources involved in the discussions said on Saturday.

India is the most prevalent among a group of developing nations angry at rich countries for failing to address their concerns about a deal on trade facilitation - struck by WTO member states in Bali last year - that must be detailed by a July 31 deadline.


Proponents believe the deal could add $1 trillion to global GDP and 21 million jobs.

But India’s Trade Ministry said on Wednesday it would “find it difficult" to support the protocol unless it was satisfied that adequate emphasis is being placed on negotiations about food security and other issues important to poor countries -sparking furious negotiations at the G20 Trade Ministers meeting in Sydney.

Three officials involved in the negotiations, speaking under the condition of anonymity in order to speak frankly, expressed exasperation with what they described as a history of erratic behavior on the part of the Indian trade team that made it difficult to trust.

India has not provided any clear description of exactly what changes it would like made to the agreement, they said, although it would not matter anyway because no concessions were on offer given how difficult the negotiations had proven to conclude the first time round.

The Indian demands appear to have shaken confidence in the new government of Narendra Modi, who came to power earlier this year with a pro-business agenda but now appears set to derail what several officials called the most significant global trade pact in two decades.

Australian Trade Minister Andrew Robb said assurances had been given to all of the signatories to the treaty that their concerns would be met and expressed optimism that it would be resolved before the deadline.

"There was strong resolution around the table that India’s issues to do with food security would and should and will be addressed as decided previously and I think there will be discussions about how to satisfy the Indians and they won’t be left behind," Robb told reporters. :eek:

The row over subsidies has raised fears that the so-called "trade facilitation agreement", the first ever global trade agreement under the World Trade Organization, will be derailed.

A deal was only reached after New Delhi extracted promises that its concerns related to food subsidies would be addressed.

India stockpiles food for its poor, putting it at risk of breaking current WTO rules. :eek: In Bali, WTO members agreed to give India a pass until 2017, while negotiating a permanent solution.

"We are focused on implementing the full Bali package that will deliver for every country involved," said Michael Froman, the U.S. Trade Representative. "Reinvigorating the multilateral system is too important to put at risk with any backsliding on commitments." :lol:

Is this another MMS trap for India?

How did those countries(US and Australia) think India wont stockpile food for their own citizens after being subject to regular droughts and food shortages for all sorts of reasons:monsoons, polticians hoarding food to appease votebanks etc.


Not having a buffer will allow food producing countries to jack up prices in times of need claiming demand and supply economics.


Black lentils.
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X-Post...
Jhujar wrote:
LokeshC wrote: Let me add a few more variables that hinder this"processing" of Oriopean civilization by the Indian/Indic mind:
1) Lot of politically active and well networked set of house - N****s that were never wiped out after the "peaceful exit" :roll: of briturds from India.
2) The continuing effects of the above House-N****s in keeping alive the myth of the superior white man that continues to this day.
3) White-washing and obscuring of Indic history and information warfare by the west and assorted House-Ns
Proof is seen in the success of Indian immigrants in WEST. Brit knew after 2 worldwars that Indians have come to know the empty reality of Britmyth. Indians saw Europe from close in those wars. But Cogressi secular culture internalize the Mccauleyman as well added Gungadeeniat to it. Luckily Indians have gotton break in 2014,It wont be so long to recover from these 2 diseases. Cleaning of Ganga will clean Gungadeens, Guungarams and Gunngruwali Tehjeeb.[/quote]


Tathastu or Ameen if you please.....
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The 1996 elections were a landmark slight turn to the right which fructified in 2014 i.e. almost two decades later.
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To hell with the WTO.Stockpiling food is the right of every Indian.We've been doing it for thousands of years from the Indo-Gangetic civilisation onwards.The Mohenjo-Daro granaries are evidence of the same.Scattered all over the country are wonderful examples of grain storage edifices,unique in their design. No global organisation can tell us what to do with food grown on our soil.
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I recollect for the Indo-EU FTA - India had argued for free movement of people (labor/talent) as a counter to free movement of goods and services. Does GoI still entertain the line of argument? I think that would in turn help reduce the cost of production via an increased labor pool.
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Business Standard pontificates

Strategic Mistake

Looks like another MMS bhakt bent on seeling out India for peanut shells.

Strategic Mistake

Lack of vision behind India's stand on trade facilita
tion
Business Standard Editorial Comment | New Delhi July 21, 2014

Multilateral negotiations at the World Trading Organization, or WTO, are an extremely delicate dance. These require the balancing of a multitude of interests; countries have to play off their internal lobbies' demand against the gains from trade, which are generally spread out over all their citizens; and unanimity is required, making progress subject to vetoes from countries with no stake in the future. In this context, the agreement hammered out at the Bali ministerial last year, which revived the Doha Round of the WTO, was almost a miracle. It is doubly tragic, therefore, that this hard-won agreement looks like being scuttled by one of the countries with most to gain from a strong multilateral trading system, and from this agreement in particular: India.

Since taking over office, the National Democratic Alliance government and its commerce minister, Nirmala Sitharaman, have made it clear that the Bali agreement, signed by the previous government, will not be ratified unless Indian demands are met. This is both a strategic and a tactical mistake. At a tactical level, it seriously misjudges the support for the agreement globally, and the costs and the benefits to India. Essentially, the government wants agreement from the WTO that high Indian subsidies to farmers producing foodgrain be allowed to continue before the country signs on to "trade facilitation" reform. Trade facilitation essentially works on helping out traders - through better ports infrastructure, through more transparent Customs norms globally, and through faster and more efficient Customs procedures. There's both money and technical advice available to help make these things happen. For Indian traders inundated with paperwork, this global agreement would be a giant help - and something a reformist government should be helping out with. Yet, instead, the government feels that this agreement can be put in jeopardy merely to ensure that Indian minimum support prices (MSPs) for food products continue to be high. The WTO's rules cap subsidies for food production at 10 per cent of the total value of production. It is important to note that this is not an attack on the idea of subsidising the consumption of food. If India opens procurement for its public distribution system to all comers, including foreign grain suppliers, at the same price, then the WTO has no problem. High MSPs for foodgrain are something India needs to move away from anyway. They distort Indian agriculture - and the Indian diet. There are other, better ways of providing food security, including direct benefit transfer options. But, instead, a nominally reformist government is defending high MSPs at the risk of scuttling the Doha Round.

{Indian reform should be driven by India and not because of WTO or anyother entity. The farm subsidy is needed to ensure adeuate food grain production in India. Indian agriculture is an idivividual enterprise while international agriculutre is an MNC enterprise and has been since the US Civil War ended. So there are different types of subsidy in both arenas. Business Standard argues for removing subisdy which is the right thing but not in the context of WTO fiats which is the wrong thing. It should be removed by Indians for India. Its sad when a business paper in India bats against India.}

The strategic problem is precisely this: that there is no grand vision of Indian trade. Thinking is largely dominated by a protectionist mindset. Around the world, major trading powers are making their own agreements, bypassing the veto-prone WTO - the Trans-Pacific Partnership, for example. India cannot join these, for they would ask too much in terms of regulation. Its own bilateral free-trade agreements are too shallow, and some are prone to being misused to allow the entry of Chinese products through the back door. In other words, India desperately needs multilateral trade negotiations to work. The WTO is more in India's interest than any alternative. But, instead, it has developed a reputation for scuttling such talks in the past. And on this occasion, the optics will be the worst of all such times. Trade facilitation is a universal good; to see India veto that, as well, will cause other countries to think the worst of India - and of the WTO, which hurts a WTO-dependent India particularly.

{While criticising the NDA govt for UPA govt lapses the paper is batting for international interests. Maybe BS should consider relocating itself to somewhere else whose views it peddles?

BS thinks India is market for goods and a provider for services to the world. It wants to open India markets while export markets for services are negotiated. And whines about text book economics. In street economics one protects ones own and tries to open others. Farm subisidy should be whittled in a gradual manner and not due to any multi-lateral agreements which has no teeth on India's behalf. Paper work reforms are needed again in Indian interests and not due to any three letter treaties.}

India is what brought trade to the world. Was this without a strategy!!!!
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India lost battle in WTO long back when developed countries succeeded in de-linking Labour issues from Goods and services issues. Movement of professionals and lower class of labour ( skilled, semi skilled and unskilled ones) to developed countries on demand and requirement basis was not accepted. The only reform was agreed in Trade. Labour issues were junked to ILO which has failed to make any headway since then. Entry to labour market of developed countries continue to be plagued by restrictive practices which hamper easy movement of labour. Visa issues are just a symptom of deep discriminatory practices followed. Loss of opportunities by increasing trade and facilitation , reducing trade barriers needs to be compensated by opening up labour market.Then only we can get equitable and fair deal. Unfortunately much water has flowed in Ganges since then. Successive Govts have lost sight of initial rounds of discussion in WTO and multilateral trade negotiations.
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WTO= Work Toward Overlording the food, Control the population. With BT / GM , having no control over seeds , no emergency stockpile facing engineered famine , Whole lots of poor countries will disappear from the face of planet for few privileged one to exploit and enjoy the resources. With Energy, food resources now under control, Next stop no medicine reserves manipulating pharmseuitcal industry . IMHO, Its more humane and morally superior to Simply send the picture of one Brit lady scholar of Indian origin as very effective tool for birth control and abandon this WTO Thuggery plan for global genocide.
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India to Diversify Sources of Crude Oil Imports and Reduce Imports from Middle East
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India, a net importer of crude oil, proposes to diversify further its sources of crude imports to reduce its dependence on any one region, according to Oil Minister Dharmendra Pradhan.Pradhan told the upper house of parliament that 61% of India's imported crude oil comes from the Middle East and New Delhi is now trying to increase oil imports from South America and Africa.In particular, the Indian government is reportedly tapping nations such as Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela for supplies.Pradhan also said the government is attempting to raise domestic oil and gas production in a bid to reduce the nation's dependence on imports.Production at the state-owned Oil and Natural Gas (ONGC) and Oil India (OIL) is being monitored on monthly basis. ( Chorri Chukarri ~15%~ Khatam)India, Iran's top oil client after China, clears 45% of its Iranian oil import bill in rupees.Pradhan said New Delhi "continues to explore possibilities for [a barter] arrangement" as such an arrangement can help India save foreign exchange.India's crude imports from Iran jumped some 33% in the first half of 2013, according to reports.Indian refiners shipped in 281,000 barrels per day from Iran in the six months to June, up from 211,400 a year ago, data on tanker arrivals from trade sources showed.It bought 115.86 million tonnes of oil from the Middle East, 31.73 million tonnes from Latin America and 30.39 million tonnes from Africa.
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Overall, this is a good thing however the only way we can cut the wahabis out of the loop for good is if we go for ammonia or hydrogen in a big way. We produce tons of ammonia and I think we should explore the possibility of combining nuclear energy with extracting nitrogen from the air.

http://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/n ... ble.75565/
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ramana wrote:The 1996 elections were a landmark slight turn to the right which fructified in 2014 i.e. almost two decades later.
It goes earlier than that.

The indian left is paying the price for the blunder committed by Jyoti Basu when he refused to take up RGs offer of beoming PM in the early 90s. ABV filled in this vacuum by the late 90s and we are seeing NAMO eviscerating the left completely if everything goes per plan.
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India blocks WTO deal on customs rules
WTO
Reuters | Jul 25, 2014, 07.57AM IST
GENEVA: India blocked an agreement on new global customs rules on Thursday, angering fellow members of the World Trade Organization who say Delhi's veto could be costly, economically and politically.

At a meeting in Geneva, diplomats from the 160 WTO member countries were supposed to rubber stamp a deal on "trade facilitation" that was agreed at talks in Bali last December. Some estimates say it could add $1 trillion to the world economy and create 21 million jobs.

But India said it would veto the agreement until it gets what it wants in a separate area linked to its system of subsidising and stockpiling crops.
Rest of the item is frothing at the mouth by other and ToiLet faithfully reporting it.
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India's Take On Google Glass, A Vibrating Smartshoe
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor ... smartshoe/
Called the Lecha shoe, and described as “interactive haptic footwear”, this smartshoe syncs up with your mobile via bluetooth.The idea is that it will give you Google Maps directions by vibrating the left or right shoe depending on which way you need to turn. It was originally invented for people with a visual impairment, but further applications were quickly realised.
The Ducere team have expanded the product to include a range of fitness applications like monitoring distanced travelled and calories. But it’s also useful for the bikers and joggers who need quick access to directions without having to look at their phones.
One of the challenges of wearable tech like Google Glass is remembering to wear it in the first place. There’s also the issue that it just may not fit the user’s style, or they’re not interested in adding awkward accessories to their outfit. Ducere thinks that it has solved this apparent problem.Speaking to the Wall Street Journal, co-founder Krispian Lawrence said: “The shoes are a natural extension of the human body. You will leave your house without your watch or wristband, but you will never leave your house without your shoes.”The shoes and the removable insoles that contain the technology are compatible with both iPhone and Android and should be available for between $100 and $150 this September. There isn’t any information on how long the insole will hold a charge for, but you can get the device to report its charge status by snapping your fingers.This isn’t the first time someone has tried to add a bit of intelligence to your footwear. Back in September 2013, the Information Ecology team of MIT’s Media Lab were working on a very similar product that communicates with your phone via bluetooth.Wired reported that the shoe and accompanying app learnt your tastes by monitoring your daily habits and online activity. It also recommended places to go, depending on your mood, and directed you to the destination via vibration. To select a destination, you can tap your toes on a touchpad in the sole or simply swipe your phone screen.Dhairya Dand, the inventor, told Wired: “By using smartphones and apps I found myself missing out on the beauty of wandering around”. He continued: “There’s nothing better than shoes for solving this — they’re the interface between your body and the ground, they’re how you connect to the city
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chaanakya wrote:India blocks WTO deal on customs rules
But India said it would veto the agreement until it gets what it wants in a separate area linked to its system of subsidising and stockpiling crops.
We had Ambassador Arundhati Ghose before and there is Ms. Anjali Prasad now.
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I love the assertiveness in foreign affairs that a right-wing Government brings, in contrast to the grovelling Jholawala gang of Congress
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WTO outcome would in all probability have been the same if UPA had won...
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RoyG wrote:Overall, this is a good thing however the only way we can cut the wahabis out of the loop for good is if we go for ammonia or hydrogen in a big way. We produce tons of ammonia and I think we should explore the possibility of combining nuclear energy with extracting nitrogen from the air.

http://www.crazyengineers.com/threads/n ... ble.75565/
The Bhabhi 3 Stage program offers another way. Electric cars and hydrogen fuelled vehicles offer another way to cut oil out of the economy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur%E2% ... escription

But whatever way, the wahabbis have got to go. Genetic engineering of algae to produe biofuel is another pathway.
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It’s right to serve worm-infested food to Indians. Right, Kelloggs?
Remember October 2003, Cadbury India was hit by a huge controversy. Some of its products were infested with worms. The company worked hard to get out of the huge negativity the incident, or several of them, in Bangalore especially, got them into. They even roped in Amitabh Bachchan who extolled views across TV channels about the virtues of their chocolates and how spic and span the factory was and how it was packed in layers, under hygienic conditions to bring to you a product that is safe and ‘bug’-free, so to say.

It did come as a shock to a lot then, for, most of these transnational giants come to India with a promise. A promise to deliver to the deprived Indians world-class products that they can buy right here, and not beg an uncle returning from an overseas trip and somehow lay your hands on a packet of Kraft cheese, or Toblerone chocolates or Head & Shoulder shampoo, or even a pair of Levi’s jeans.

But it seems most of these biggies, when it comes to India, forget to adhere to the norms that they painstakingly follow abroad, taking the Indian consumer, or perhaps even the system here for granted. The latest to join the list of biggies offering worm-infested product to hapless Indians is Kelloggs India, the company that wants to change the breakfast habit of us Indians.

Archana Sanjay in Bangalore opened a fresh pack of the company’s Chocos product, poured it into a bowl for her 3-year-old son Aarav and just as she was about to look away and let the child enjoy the product from the company that offers ‘world’s favourite cereal’, she heard him squeal.

To her horror, the ‘quality’ product had a worm crawling inside the chocolatey pod that Aarav was about to devour.

The product was packed on March 9, 2014 and was to be consumed within 9 months.

Horrified, she snatched it from the child. But if you thought that the single pod alone was infested, you are wrong. Each and every pod of the product had the creepy crawly insect. Shocked, she went to the market and just to check, picked up another packet. The story repeated itself there too.

Clearly, the company missed an opportunity here. When it claimed that this product is “a nourishing breakfast to take on an action packed and fun filled day in school. That’s because Chocos is now made with Whole Grain, which gives 11 essential vitamins and minerals, and fibre” it forgot to mention that their premium product also offers protein, live one at that.
Archana is approaching the consumer forum with her complain and all evidence, and that even the product available on the shelves currently is infested.

How utterly disgusting!

Why do these companies treat Indian consumers almost with disdain? Sure, some will argue that Indian companies had been giving us such substandard and unhygienic product since ages, that we should not complain. Not fair. These biggies come into India with a promise that they will offer us quality that is world class. They get permission to set up operation here by playing on the emotional quotient, that the Indians have now arrived, and deserve to get world-class products, right here. Of course, they are never bothered about profits that among the fastest growing consumer markets in the world offers, I am sure, for their intention is to make us healthy.

However, even as one disgusts, almost pukes at the thought of what if the child had consumed it. Actually, who knows. It is possible other kids were not as fortunate, for, doesn’t it often happen that the parent pours it into a bowl and gets busy while the child plays around, without being supervised. This episode has hurt that trust. It should.

And even as I write this, I often wonder why should we let go of our own healthy, and fresh, option and go in for these processed items. Irrespective of their tall claims, they are not as healthy, or nutritious. How can this product, for example, compare with the spongy idlis, the healthiest fast food in the world, or light parathas, which, even with a little butter, would be better off than worm-infested, processed food on offer by these biggies.

For me, a paratha or a roti or South Indian tiffin alternatives like upma or idli or dosa anyday over KFC or Big Mac.

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It is amazing there is not one good titled article in MSM justifying Indian's refusal to sign WTO trade facilitation agreement that is not in its Indian national interest. I don't feel like posting those reports (from Indian news websites) that are doing US's bidding. Absolutely shameful.
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MHRD to pay tribute to Pingali Venkayya on its new website
Pingali Venkayya, freedom fighter and designer of the National Tri-Colour, will find a mention on the new website of Union Human Resource Development Ministry to be launched on August 14.

Union Minister for Human Resource Development Smriti Zubin Irani today said that Venkayya's birth anniversary was celebrated today and the reminiscence of the event will be put on the website of HRD.

Sursagar Society of Delhi Gharana had organised an evening on the eve of his birthday to tribute Pingali Venkayya.

"As far as my authority permits, I can only say that on August 14 we will launch the new website of MHRD in which we will mention the reminiscence of this evening for our country," she said.

Irani said she will request the schools of CBSE that students should write an essay on Pingali Venkayya so that they get to know more about him.

"For the last six decades or more, innumerable citizens, especially members of the armed forces, have laid down their lives to keep the Tiranga flying.

"A national treasure, the Indian national flag represents India's long struggle for freedom. Gandhiji has said that it is essential for us Indians to recognise the common flag, to live for and to die for.

"I am extremely grateful today that an honour and a tribute is being given to Sri Pingali Venkayya ji," said the Union HRD Minister.

The minister also narrated the meaning to each feature of the flag as put by Dr Radhkrishnan in the constituent assembly and said "the words of Radhakrishnan resonates even today in all of us Indians but the man who designed our national flag is a man that our generation knows very little about.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/is- ... story.html

Is Hindi making a comeback in India after years of pursuit of English?
NEW DELHI — Lokpati Tripathi, a thin, 23-year-old Hindi literature graduate, has dreamed of joining India’s elite bureaucratic service for the past eight years. He has studied nonstop for the intensely competitive civil-service tests for the past 18 months.But now, Tripathi and thousands like him who studied in Hindi are protesting across northern India against a new screening test that they say is tilted in favor of those who are fluent in English.“Can only those who are from the English-speaking class of elite Indians become top bureaucrats?” Tripathi asked, his voice rising above the din of fiery speeches around him on his fourth day of a hunger strike in New Delhi. “Is there no place for local languages in India today?”The question of which language gets primacy is deeply divisive for a country that inherited English from its British colonial rulers but has 22 official languages and hundreds of dialects of its own. Many observers assumed that India had settled its language divide decades ago when it allowed each state to have its own official language and made Hindi the official language of the national government. English is also allowed to be used for official business.But in recent weeks, Indians’ deep anxieties over language have resurfaced, ironically at a time when the newly elected prime minister, Narendra Modi, 63, has unambiguously declared his preference to use Hindi instead of English.About 550 million Indians speak Hindi, and more than 125 million speak English in addition to their mother tongues, according to the 2001 census.India’s image as a hub of information technology has grown in the past two decades, fueled by hundreds of thousands of ­English-speaking software engineers. English was widely acknowledged as the language of opportunity and growth, driving millions of Indians to enroll in private English classes that mushroomed in almost every urban neighborhood. In India, a great deal of social weight is attached to the ability to speak English fluently.But now, Hindi appears to have become the latest power accessory under Modi, who is a charismatic orator in Hindi and Gujarati but is not entirely comfortable in English.Modi’s government directed officials, publicly owned companies and banks to use Hindi on social media and official correspondence, in addition to English. Some non-Hindi-speaking southern states protested, forcing his government to clarify that the directive was meant only for Hindi states.
The news sent many of New Delhi’s bureaucrats with clipped English accents running off to look up words in Hindi dictionaries, according to reports.Modi then declared that he would speak only in Hindi with international leaders.“Modi is telling many in small towns of India that ‘you don’t need to speak English to grow. Do what comes naturally to you. Anything is possible,’ ” said Sugata Srinivasaraju, author of the book “Pickles From Home: The Worlds of a Bilingual.” “Modi is offering them a new kind of modernity. . . . If he delivers economic growth, people will forgive his language politics. If he doesn’t, then the English-speaking middle class will portray Modi as a politician from a faraway past.”Modi’s message was not lost on Tripathi at the protest site.“Our prime minister did not need English to rise,” Tripathi said. ( How Many here remember the DIE Dilli Billi Bitch Bemoaning How will Modi talk to POTUS: Now POTUS wondering How 2t2 Modi :) ) Hindi advocates say the share of Hindi-speaking aspirants making it to the top bureaucracy has steadily fallen since the screening test was introduced in 2011.
“We have kept down more than half the population of Indians who function in Hindi,” said Ashok Chakradhar, a renowned Hindi poet and former vice chair of Hindi Academy. “In a multilingual country like ours, Hindi ties us together and creates a robust cultural identity.”Yet Hindi is not the only language stirring controversy.The Modi government also instructed public schools across India to observe a week celebrating Sanskrit, the ancient Indian language that many sacred Hindu hymns were written in 3,500 years ago.Some critics accused the government of promoting Hinduism in public schools. Others said Sanskrit represented the exclusive privileges appropriated by the ­upper-caste Hindus in the past.“It would have been more appropriate to have organised a Classical Language Week in each state based on the linguistic heritage of that state,” Jayaram Jayalalitha, the chief minister of the southern state of Tamil Nadu, wrote to Modi. “This would be in keeping with the cultural and linguistic sensitivities in a diverse country like ours.”Analysts say language is a key part of the cultural politics of Hindu nationalist groups such as the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party, of which Modi is a member.“The BJP can’t turn our officially secular India into a Hindu nation, but through symbolic promotion of Sanskrit they often signal that they are running a Hindu-friendly government,” said Girija Shankar, a political analyst in Madhya Pradesh state, where the BJP has ruled since 2003.For all the political push, it may be difficult to turn the clock back on English.“Students think English is the only way to survive in a big city and get a job,” said Sandeep Sinha, director of the Oxford Software Institute, which teaches an English course. “You should see their confidence soar when they are able to stitch a couple of sentences in English. This hunger for English isn’t going to disappear easily.”
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CIA penetrated every sphere of UPA: Natwar Singh

Is Nutwar leaving the reservation? This is seriously dangerous territory. Hope no 'accidentation' happens only...
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Hari Seldon wrote:CIA penetrated every sphere of UPA: Natwar Singh

Is Nutwar leaving the reservation? This is seriously dangerous territory. Hope no 'accidentation' happens only...
He himself is Nut case and part of the mafia. He will be selectively leaking which will not be cohesive. Sonia's reaction is all drama.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/artic ... ement.html

These days, such trendy mysticism comes with an increasingly heavy load of political baggage. Narendra Modi, the new Prime Minister of India elected May 16, 2014 in a landslide, is a leader in the Hindu fundamentalist party, a major and growing threat to the secular brand of the world’s largest democracy. Modi rose to power as head of the state of Gujarat, where riots broke out in 2002. Not only were ethnic and religious minorities, primarily Muslims, targeted but human rights reports show that the patterns of violence were pre-planned and organized. Women interviewed in the refugee camps shared unforgettable stories of sexual violence, rape, gang rape, stripping, and insertion of objects into their bodies. (Coincidently, Modi was on vacation during the riots and has denied any involvement, but many continue to view his silent absence as tacit approval.)

What western trendsetters need to understand is that the Indian mysticism they embrace is increasingly bound up with a rising tide of Hindu fundamentalism that threatens to move India in dangerous directions—as was chillingly illustrated just this week with a series of anti-Muslim incidents. Footage emerged of a radical Hindu lawmaker trying to force food into the mouth of a Muslim caterer during the Ramadan period of fasting, and another politician questioned the national identity of an Indian Muslim tennis star, according to a July 26 Reuters news report. Throughout it all, Modi has remained silent, drawing criticism from many, including The Times of India, which reported: “The prime minister needs to come out strongly against such comments in order to reassure the minorities that their apprehensions about the intent of his regime are misplaced and to signal to these elements that it is not open season for minority-baiting. Silence on his part will only encourage such elements.”

In sum, the incense, the Om tattoos, the saffron (the color for India’s right-wing party) shawls—these are far more than harmless fashion accouterments. For ethnic and religious minorities from India, they are becoming terrifying reminders of a Hindu fundamentalism on the rise, of an India that does not have much room for them.

Modi won the elections in India, in part, on a platform that promised vast economic development and a middle class prosperity, pointing to his legacy in Gujarat, where economic growth under his leadership was well above the national average. But history suggests reason to fear that such gains would benefit the few, not the many—that the nation may be increasingly split between Hindu haves and other have nots. Moreover, economic progress in India will depend on the active involvement of women. What Modi does to ensure all women’s safety and access to opportunity will be the true measure of his economic policies.

To the sari-clad millennial on Second Avenue: I hope your interest in India goes beyond mysticism and cultural accessorizing. If there is a deep appreciation for India, then I hope that you will extend yourself to ensure that India’s unique brand of secularism remains intact under this new leadership. Because while fashions come and go, Modi's impact will be enduring.

another deracinated convert keeping the "natives" down trying to prop up her "converted" culture.

also, I hope we keep seeing more of this. there are many even on this forum who think that it's all "just business", and "culture vulture sab naansense" type of thinking.

the deception of this woman is quite fascinating. but she unknowingly discloses the hypocrisy of all "secular" and "western" deconstruction of Hindus.

Hindus have been force fed that "they must accept all and everything", and that "rejection is not our culture".
politics also must remain free from "xenophobia".

now Aleyamma is arguing that Westerners who don't live in India, who don't care what happens to Hindus, and who have no civilizational or even the most basic transactional duty towards India should be the ONES who actually need to pay attention to India's secularism, whereas the very Hindus on whom she spills her bile should actually ignore and neglect all forms of Hindu self-representation!!!!!

the sheer irony and hypocrisy should be enlightening to even the most casual of observers and readers of such articles....
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@fempower, you're an idiot. Politics is not a culture. the Indian Civilization is 8,000 years old. Indian democracy is 64 years old. The religion, customs, Gita, yoga, food, and focus on love and life were there love before democracy and independence and will hopefully last another 8,000 years. Allowing the west adopt this culture is nothing to be ashamed about and is not something that should demonized. Obsessing and connecting everything to the fool's game of politic is the peak of spreading ignorance.
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Tamil Nadu introduces bill to provide legal protection to dhoti, violators to face one-year jail term and fine
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 747167.cms
CHENNAI: In what could provide a legal protection to the dhoti, the traditional attire in Tamil Nadu, chief minister J Jayalalithaa on Wednesday introduced a bill in the state assembly, barring recreation clubs, associations, trusts, companies and societies from imposing restrictions on any person wearing the dhoti (veshti).The bill proposes cancellation of licences to clubs and organisations violating the law. "Whoever violates the provisions shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to one year and with fine which may extend to Rs 25,000.""No person, wearing a veshti reflecting Tamil culture or any other Indian traditional dress, shall be denied entry into any public place, by reason only of his dress, provided that the dress shall be worn in a decent manner," the bill said.
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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/79a2c842 ... ntl#slide0

The rough and tumble of kabaddi
The Pro Kabaddi League will stage matches around India this month in one of two attempts to relaunch a sport that resembles team wrestling mixed with school­yard tag, and which claims a lineage stretching back to the Mahabharata, a Sanskrit epic set 5,000 years ago.
( Do this sport really have origin in Abhimanyu's legendary battle in Chakarvihu? The touch would have been deadly in battle. Most of the Indian Martial arts teaches soft kill without wasting energy. Preserving energy would have been very useful fighting against multiple opponents. I have seen Nihangs slicing through many objects without silky smooth movement, like almost no action happened. A Gujrati chap showed similar skill. )
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Ebola is a deadly virus, which has claimed about 932 lives so far. Of this, 300 are CRPF personnel deployed in Liberia for UN peacekeeping operations.

The Minister said that at least 500 Indians were in the Republic of Guinea, 3000 in Liberia and 1200 in Sierra Leone (from where the maximum cases have been reported). Nigeria has a much larger presence of nearly 40000 Indian citizens. “If the situation worsens, there is a possibility of these people returning home,” Vardhan said. WHO has reported 1,603 cases and 887 deaths till August 4 in four countries — Guinea (485 and 358), Liberia (468 and 255), Sierra Leone (646 and 273) and Nigeria (4 and 1).

http://www.niticentral.com/2014/08/08/e ... 35463.html
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^^^

this is serious. and the first I'm hearing of it. so Indian soldiers are sacrificing themselves to keep peace African countries f***** by the West, and there is not even a peep of it in the Western media...

Thank you Niticentral.
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please start a new thread with a link to this page in its first post.
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Good write up regarding the utility in breaking up Pakistan.
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/time- ... 161116.htm
It is India's great misfortune that it has been cursed with a neighbour like Pakistan.

A nation born out of hatred needs hatred for its continued sustenance.

Over a period of time, like a cancerous tumour, hatred for India has made deep inroads into Pakistan's national psyche.

It has been devouring its vitals, hurling it into the abyss of a failed State.

In its obsession to harm India, Pakistan has chosen the path of self-destruction.

All nations have certain core values like ensuring THE safety, wellbeing and health of its citizens.

Unfortunately, Pakistan's core values are negative in nature.

These values are based on the sole principle of 'hate and hurt India.'

Due to decades of indoctrination and brainwashing, most Pakistanis suffer from an extremely brutal, sadistic and vicious anti-Indian streak.

One may not fully agree with former Australian Test umpire Darrell Hair's description of Pakistani cricketers as 'cheats, frauds and liars.' But the fact is that the world considers Pakistan to be an untrustworthy and deceitful nation.

Pakistan has made duplicity to be its national policy.

Treachery is in the Pakistani DNA.

Quite rightly, the whole world considers Pakistan a rogue State.

Independent Pakistan started its track record with treachery.

Despite having signed a 'standstill agreement' with the state of Jammu and Kashmir, it unleashed raiders on the hapless Kashmir Valley.

In April 1965, it launched a surprise attack on Kutch. Later that year, it infiltrated its forces into Kashmir, expecting a local uprising against India. It also provided sanctuaries to underground elements of North-Eastern India.

After its defeat in 1971, Pakistan has been exporting terror to India in every possible manner.

The Line of Control has always been a hotbed of Pakistan's nefarious activities.

The recent attack on Uri and India's strong response through surgical strikes has reignited the conflict.

Both sides have been resorting to intense fire. Border villages are suffering acute damage. This firefight has the potential to get more confrontational.

'Be patient with a bad neighbour: He may move' is a famous Egyptian proverb. Unfortunately, such hopes cannot be entertained with respect to a bad neighbouring country.

India has to live and deal with Pakistan. But how? What are India's options?

Option 1: Seek Peace through Mollycoddling Pakistan

A small but vociferous segment is of the view that India, being a bigger nation, should act in a more generous manner to assure Pakistan of Indian sincerity in resolving contentious issues.

It suggests the demilitarisation of Siachen. As Pakistan has no presence on the glacier, demilitarisation implies 'unilateral vacation of Siachen by India.'

It is felt that such a gesture will bring about a reduction in Pakistan's hostility towards India.

Some go to the extent of suggesting that India should resolve the Kashmir tangle to Pak satisfaction.

Similar arguments are put forward by the enthusiasts of Track-II diplomacy and initiatives like 'Aman Ki Asha.'

Advocates of this soft option are those influential Indians who have been cultivated by Pakistan through what is commonly referred to as 'biryani diplomacy.' They are frequently taken on fully paid trips, ostensibly for seminars and group discussions. Lavish hospitality generates bonhomie. Soon, they start echoing the Pak stance to mislead the Indian public.

Many advocate stronger cultural ties with Pakistan. Shah Rukh Khan feels 'Politics between the two countries should be handled by the politicians... creative people have nothing to do with it.'

Sunil Gavaskar is of the view that recommencement of India-Pakistan matches will help better relations. He does not want sports to be mixed with politics.

Sponsors of Ghulam Ali's concerts claim that music has no boundaries.

Sadly, they forget that Pakistan is waging a war against India and killing Indians. It is not playing any politics.

Over the last seven decades India has taken various initiatives to make Pakistan see the benefits of a rancour-free relationship.

Every Indian prime minister has made liberal conciliatory gestures.

The Ceasefire in 1948.

The return of the Haji Pir Pass in 1965.

The repatriation of 93,000 PoWs under the Simla Agreement in 1971.

Granting Most Favoured Nation status are some of them.

All failed.

While the Indian leadership was trying to break thew ice through 'bus diplomacy' in February 1999, the Pakistani military was busy planning the notorious Kargil incursion.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's out-of-the-box gesture of birthday stop-over at Lahore was followed by a fierce terrorist strike at the Pathankot airfield.

Disappointingly, Pakistan remains incorrigible as a devious and cunning neighbour.

Expecting a change of heart is nothing but self-delusion.

Issues like Kashmir and Siachen are merely a manifestation of Pakistan's infinite hostility towards India.

Were India to hand over Kashmir to it on a platter and withdraw from Siachen, Pakistan will invent newer issues to keep the pot boiling.

Option 2: Persist with the Current Policy

An influential section of the India intelligentsia wants the current policy to continue. It finds no need for change.

An editorial in a leading Indian daily newspaper read, 'Since 1990 India has had a consistent policy towards Pakistan: Let them hit us with whatever they can, we will harden our defences but not retaliate in kind.' According to the editor, the said policy has been 'remarkably successful.'

Since 1990, Kashmir has seen a loss of nearly 50,000 lives, including civilians and security/police personnel.

Indian security forces have captured a huge cache of Pakistan supplied weapons from the terrorists in the last 15 years. It includes more than 34,000 AK-47 rifles, 5,000 grenade launchers, 90 machine guns, 12,000 revolvers, 350 missile launchers, 100,000 grenades and 63,000 kg explosive.

Even anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns have been seized.


Continuance of the current policy of enduring Pakistani aggression without riposte is proving highly expensive in human lives and expenditure.

India's over-indulgence and conciliatory gestures have emboldened Pakistan into considering India to be a soft State. It has increased its intransigence and hardened its anti-India attitude.

Option 3: Isolate and Disintegrate Pakistan

Devious countries like Pakistan do not believe in international conventions and shamelessly flout them. The only language they understand is of strength and retribution.

In the short term, India must make it amply clear to the Pakistan government that every anti-India mischief would invite immediate reprisal and that no transgression will go unpunished.

In addition, diplomatic relations should be downgraded. All concessions like MFN should be withdrawn. Rail and road contacts should be suspended.

There can be no cultural ties with a country that wages war against India.

India's long term objective should be to isolate Pakistan internationally and trigger its disintegration.

Isolation of Pakistan will not pose a major challenge.

Pakistan has already acquired notoriety as the prime breeding ground of terrorism in the world. Pakistanis are looked at with suspicion the world over. Consequently, most hide their true identity and pretend to be from India.

A proactive policy should be followed to make friends with the countries who feel threatened by the growth of terrorism in Pakistan.

Leveraging its enormous economic clout, India must make it clear to the world that any nation that supports Pakistan's anti-Indian policies cannot claim to be India's friend.

Using its formidable influence, India should have Pakistan expelled from the cricketing world.

If South Africa could be debarred for apartheid, why should Pakistan not be banned for promoting terrorism? As cricket is a national obsession, it will hit Pakistani psyche hard.

Raising the Balochistan issue was a master stroke and a game changer.

If Pakistan can cultivate a Kashmiri separatist constituency within India, India can cultivate a separatist Baloch constituency in Pakistan.

If Pakistan can dedicate its Independence Day to Kashmir, India can dedicate its Independence Day to Balochistan, Gilgit, Baltistan, and Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Expectedly, the world at large has displayed great understanding of India's stand. Not a single country has faulted India for its statement on Balochistan.

India should also support independence of other provinces like Sind. Pakistan must be splintered into as many countries as possible. The aim should be to reduce Pakistan to its current Punjab province.

Peace is a two-way process. Both parties have to desire it. India cannot be friends unilaterally while Pakistan pursues a path of vicious hostility.

Pakistan was created on the ideology that the 'pure' cannot coexist with the infidel; it is naive to expect Pakistan to have a change of heart.

If Pakistan adopts a conciliatory stance, it would amount to negating the two-nation theory, the raison d'etre for its very creation.

It is time India stops living in a fool's paradise.

Pakistan will always be a devious and cunning neighbour. It should never be forgotten that deceit, betrayal, duplicity and perfidy are synonymous with Pakistan. Therefore, it will be in India's interests to reconcile to an antagonistic Pakistan and tailor its approach accordingly.

In world affairs, timidity is considered a sign of impotence, and not sagacity.

Rogue States like Pakistan only understand the language of retribution.

Having failed to make Pakistan see the benefits of a rancour-free relationship, India has no reason to be apologetic.

India should stop claiming that a united Pakistan is in India's interests. There cannot be a more blinkered view. Pakistan's break-up is a necessity for peace and progress in the region.

Surgery is generally considered to be ultimate course of treatment for fatal tumours. Malignancy-afflicted Pakistan is no exception.

India must help trigger the required implosion.

IMAGE: Indian soldiers at base camp after returning from training on the Siachen Glacier. Photograph: Reuters
I agreed with the strategic parts of it. The only disagreement I have is using cutting off p2p and cultural ties as a measure of isolating TSP. IMHO these ties actually serve our strategic interests.
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devesh wrote:^^^

this is serious. and the first I'm hearing of it. so Indian soldiers are sacrificing themselves to keep peace African countries f***** by the West, and there is not even a peep of it in the Western media...

Thank you Niticentral.
Right.
And meanwhile Ban ki Maa ki Moon lectures India on being a responsible nuclear power.
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https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases ... 111816.php

Rice farming in India much older than thought, used as 'summer crop' by Indus civilization
Latest research on archaeological sites of the ancient Indus Civilisation, which stretched across what is now Pakistan and northwest India during the Bronze Age, has revealed that domesticated rice farming in South Asia began far earlier than previously believed, and may have developed in tandem with - rather than as a result of - rice domestication in China.The research also confirms that Indus populations were the earliest people to use complex multi-cropping strategies across both seasons, growing foods during summer (rice, millets and beans) and winter (wheat, barley and pulses), which required different watering regimes. The findings suggest a network of regional farmers supplied assorted produce to the markets of the civilisation's ancient cities.Evidence for very early rice use has been known from the site of Lahuradewa in the central Ganges basin, but it has long been thought that domesticated rice agriculture didn't reach South Asia until towards the end of the Indus era, when the wetland rice arrived from China around 2000 BC. Researchers found evidence of domesticated rice in South Asia as much as 430 years earlier.
"We found evidence for an entirely separate domestication process in ancient South Asia, likely based around the wild species Oryza nivara. This led to the local development of a mix of 'wetland' and 'dryland' agriculture of local Oryza sativa indica rice agriculture before the truly 'wetland' Chinese rice, Oryza sativa japonica, arrived around 2000 BC," says study co-author Dr Jennifer Bates"While wetland rice is more productive, and took over to a large extent when introduced from China, our findings appear to show there was already a long-held and sustainable culture of rice production in India as a widespread summer addition to the winter cropping during the Indus civilisation."Co-author Dr Cameron Petrie says that the location of the Indus in a part of the world that received both summer and winter rains may have encouraged the development of seasonal crop rotation before other major civilisations of the time, such as Ancient Egypt and China's Shang Dynasty."Most contemporary civilisations initially utilised either winter crops, such as the Mesopotamian reliance on wheat and barley, or the summer crops of rice and millet in China - producing surplus with the aim of stockpiling," says Petrie.
"However, the area inhabited by the Indus is at a meteorological crossroads, and we found evidence of year-long farming that predates its appearance in the other ancient river valley civilisations."The archaeologists sifted for traces of ancient grains in the remains of several Indus villages within a few kilometers of the site called Rakhigari: the most recently excavated of the Indus cities that may have maintained a population of some 40,000.As well as the winter staples of wheat and barley and winter pulses like peas and vetches, they found evidence of summer crops: including domesticated rice, but also millet and the tropical beans urad and horsegram, and used radiocarbon dating to provide the first absolute dates for Indus multi-cropping: 2890-2630 BC for millets and winter pulses, 2580-2460 BC for horsegram, and 2430-2140 BC for rice.Millets are a group of small grain, now most commonly used in birdseed, which Petrie describes as "often being used as something to eat when there isn't much else". Urad beans, however, are a relative of the mung bean, often used in popular types of Indian dhal today.In contrast with evidence from elsewhere in the region, the village sites around Rakhigari reveal that summer crops appear to have been much more popular than the wheats of winter.The researchers say this may have been down to the environmental variation in this part of the former civilisation: on the seasonally flooded Ghaggar-Hakra plains where different rainfall patterns and vegetation would have lent themselves to crop diversification - potentially creating local food cultures within individual areas.While they don't yet know what crops were being consumed at Rakhigarhi, Jennifer Bates points out that: "It is certainly possible that a sustainable food economy across the Indus zone was achieved through growing a diverse range of crops, with choice being influenced by local conditions."It is also possible that there was trade and exchange in staple crops between populations living in different regions, though this is an idea that remains to be tested.""Such a diverse system was probably well suited to mitigating risk from shifts in climate," adds Cameron Petrie. "It may be that some of today's farming monocultures could learn from the local crop diversity of the Indus people 4,000 years ago."The findings are the latest from the Land, Water and Settlement Project, which has been conducting research on the ancient Indus Civilisation in northwest India since 2008.
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