SaiK wrote:True, the Chinese orders have decreased considerably. "Су-27" . Of course, you know that the Chinese had recently copied our "Su-27". Prohibit their production and sale, we can not. We have only one way - to do better, one-third better. After all, as the Chinese proverb: "Standing and will overtake the tortoise."
- Chinese plane - an exact copy of our?
— Regarding the engine, it is not an exact copy. . I saw him. The Chinese have used and their development, but 70 percent is our AL-31F, all of our automation. To buy a license for the manufacture of engine they have not only bought a license for the repair of engines (of course with all the drawings). And since the repair and manufacture, in fact, very close, all the Chinese carefully studied and mastered the production of their own. In China, a very competent engineers, and that they will acquire these products, I personally have no doubt there was. Therefore, we have only one way out - to do better. "117С". And we have done engine "117C". Now let them drive on us!
One thing is xerox china to xerox khan transfers, that should not be ignored.. But, we do need to appreciate this copying technique, without any tech transfer documents.
Well Cheating and Copying can help them in the short run but it doesn't pay in the long run , the xerox J-11 is not exactly as good as the basic Su-27SK if one believes the russian source , they were not successful on the engine side either trying to reverse engineer it.
But the worst hit they took was now Russia does not trust them much and in any future transactions Russia does with China will ensure that Xeroxing it will be far tougher task , they will also put a IP agreement in place for defense agreement and the over all defence relations took a bad hit.
I would think it was fool hardy and naive of Chinese to illegally copy the Su-27SK and then boast about it didnt help them much and alerted the OEM .....now suffer