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Manmohan likely to convey displeasure to Gilani over inaction

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 411285.ece
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Krishna hints at Indo-Pak bilateral talks

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Why worry? Be Happy. Have another IPL or a Sania or a Hrithik. Its the Hindu way. Its karma.
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milindc wrote:Per TimesNow, she got her info from RAW station head in Isloo and that officer is also under scanner.
Wait till she claims discrimination and have the case drag out. The pakis must be rolling in their shalwars.
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BB's ass-ass and the UN report causing a storm in a teacup.
Govt plans to arrest Brig Ejaz
ISLAMABAD:

Sources told The News the government had decided to arrest some ‘key suspects’ nominated by Ms Bhutto in a letter after the Oct 18, 2008, twin-suicide attack on her soon after her arrival in Karachi after a prolonged self-imposed exile.

Former Intelligence Bureau (IB) chief, Brig (retd) Ejaz Shah, could be the first one to be arrested for questioning by the government. The former IB chief was not only nominated as the ‘would be suspect’ if she was assassinated, which eventually she was in the second shooting/suicide attack on her on December 27, 2008, but was also mentioned in the UN commission report.

It is widely believed that Ejaz Shah was a close aide of former president Pervez Musharraf, and executed his orders without any fear. The sources told ‘The News’ that now the government was awaiting the findings/recommendations of the inquiry committee, appointed to probe the fatal December 27, 2008 atatck.

The focus of this three-member committee is to find out and nominate as to who ordered washing of the crime scene, and who carried out the deed so quickly after the unfortunate incident, ...

The sources told ‘The News’ that the government was also considering ‘questioning’ the former ISI chief Gen (retd) Hameed Gul but would step short of arresting him. “He (Gen Hameed Gul) would be given every opportunity to prove his innocence before any final decision is taken to arrest him or not,” the sources told The News.

The sources also indicated that if the awaited report indicated the involvement of former President Gen Pervez Musharraf, the former CM of Sindh Arbab Ghulam Rahim, and the former chief minister of the Punjab, Chaudhry Pervez Elahi, the government will not hesitate in arresting all of them, including Musharraf through Interpol.

...

Sources said the government had made up its mind to protect the PPP people mentioned in the UN report, and the report by the three-member body would be used to divert attention from some key members of the government, including the Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Federal Law Minister Babar Awan as well as the personal bodyguard of Ms Bhutto, Khalid Shahanshah, who was appointed by her spouse, now President Asif Ali Zardari, and was later assassinated in Karachi.

The sources said that a media campaign has already been launched by the government to protect these individuals

...
PML-N also sniffs Army intervention
ISLAMABAD: After the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP), now apprehensions are also being expressed by the PML-N about some alleged conspiracy being hatched by certain elements belonging to the Army and intelligence agencies.

Though it is whispered and not publicly said in so many words, in their off-the-record discussions with media persons, some PML-N leaders express their fears that the third force is preparing the ground to do something extra-constitutional. :D

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Chandragupta wrote:Can't India employ some chankian means to encourage French DDM to go all out on Karachi massacre to make it harder for France to justify any arms sales to Pakistan to its citizens?!
Sure. Offer to mediate between the Pukis and the French. After all, whats a few disagreements between blood brothers.
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Nadeem Ejaz ki band bajne waali hai

This guy is a relative of Pervez Musharraf. He is the one who ordered the BB assassination crime scene hosed down and was the head of Military Intelligence then.

Hamid Mir brings out the entire history sheet of this man's activities inside pakistan. Must read in full.

Maj-Gen Nadeem Ejaz: in the dock for many crimes
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 861925.cms

Pakbarian animals now face new type of music - missiles that are about the size of violin case...perhaps it will play a tune and despatch them to their 72s...
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I thought that the national bird despatched them to jahannum to meet their 72 to the tune of

"Pak sarzameen shad' bad'" on A# major
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Manmohan likely to convey displeasure to Gilani over inaction

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... 411285.ece
Now this news is trying to make fools of aam indians. To those who follow the current GoI's dealings with Pakistan, it would seem that the two gentlemen mentioned in that headline are united in their goals and the means to achieve that goal.

After conveying that displeasure to Gilani, and after Gilani expresses his displeasure over the 100000000 indian consulates and RAW agents to MMS, both will discuss how to undermine the Pakistan army's role in Pakistan, how to make the LOC more porous and how to settle siachen and sir creek - essentially India agreeing to pakistan's position.

In between dissing the pakistan army, both will also be silently thanking them for making this meeting possible. For both now know that pakistan sponsored terrorism against india undermines the government's vote bank here, and prompts them to make unsavory deals with the pakistanis.
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The Ministry of External Affairs sources said an official statement will be given out the complete facts in the case. However sources did mention that Gupta, who is also believed to be an Urdu interpreter and a staffer for 30 years who has served in Delhi, Kuala Lumpur and Islamabad, has confessed to the crime.

This is the first-ever case of a senior Indian diplomat being arrested for such a crime. What is more, Indian agencies believe that the 45-year-old is just a part of a massive Pakistani spy ring and there may have been others in the Indian diplomatic establishment also engaged in counter espionage. Currently the exact nature of the inducements to Gupta for her services is not known.
Err does that mean she was working from the time she was 15 year old. :eek:
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After conveying that displeasure to Gilani, and after Gilani expresses his displeasure over the 100000000 indian consulates and RAW agents to MMS, both will discuss how to undermine the Pakistan army's role in Pakistan, how to make the LOC more porous and how to settle siachen and sir creek - essentially India agreeing to pakistan's position.
He he..well said.

Am remembering the "MMS raging and hands trembling after 26/11 news came" story again and again and cant help wondering how i actually believed that!!
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Carl T>> Why not the other way?
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Shivlal Vedhavani wrote:Carl T>> Why not the other way?
Meaning?
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Carl_T wrote:Unmarried woman in 40s - the reason why she was a target of honey trap...maybe from now on we should get openly gay operatives who are in relationships to work abroad.
There would be a huge line-up outside the Indian HC in Pukistan for Canadian Visas! :twisted:
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Another target killing in Quetta - this time a woman educationist
Gunmen on Tuesday shot dead a woman university professor in southwest Pakistan, where targeted killings blamed on tribal insurgents, sectarian groups and militants are increasing, police said.
Nazima Talib, 48, had just stepped into a rickshaw at the gate of Balochistan University in Quetta city when gunmen riding a motorbike sprayed her with bullets, senior police officer Tariq Manzoor said.
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The various reports on this incident do not make it clear if it was because she was a Punjabi or was a shia.
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Meanwhile Aman ki Tamashawalas are lobbying hard to get MMS the Nobel Prize.
The conference, the first in the Aman ki Asha, or “Destination: Peace” series co-organised by the Times of India newspaper and Pakistan’s Jang media group, represented the reopening of backdoor diplomatic channels that, in the early 2000s, brought the South Asian rivals tantalisingly close to ending decades of hostility.
Mr Kasuri, now an opposition politician, spelt out just how close the nuclear neighbours had come in 2006, after three years of secret negotiations, to taking decisive steps to resolving the disputes that have sparked three wars and two localised conflicts since independence from British colonial rule in 1947.

He said the Indian government had in August 2006 signalled its acceptance of an innovative solution to the core dispute over Kashmir, involving the formation of a joint mechanism to oversee a gradual withdrawal of military forces from the mountainous territory, and the devolution of administrative authority to the regional governments on either side. “It was agreed that neither side would ignite nationalistic passions by claiming they had secured victory over the other,” Mr Kasuri said.

To soften public opinion, it had been agreed that Manmohan Singh, the Indian prime minister, would visit Pakistan that year to sign an agreement over Sir Creek, the countries’ maritime border.

The two sides later agreed to delay the signing until after state elections in India held in late 2006, but by March 2007, the agreed alternative date, the Pakistani government, led then by Pervez Musharraf, the president and former military chief, had become embroiled in a dispute with its judiciary and was on its way out.
Indian peace activists at the unofficial conference in Lahore said their government wanted the diplomatic dialogue from Pakistan to resume at the decisive point reached in August 2006.

“The Indian government is ready for backchannel talks to resume the dialogue stalled in 2006,” said Amitabh Mattoo, a professor of international relations at the Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi.

Both sides remain wary of the reaction of domestic hardliners who have capitalised on the lack of direct interaction between citizens and first-hand media reporting created by restrictive regimes to paint a grisly picture of each other, the activists said.
“The people of both countries want peace, but the ‘Establishment’ [common parlance for nationalist hawks] on both sides is resisting, and there will be little progress unless the political leadership asserts itself,” Mr Mattoo said.
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The rediff link identifies the RAW station head in Pa'stan by name :?:
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Pakis ex ministers & track two guys keep telling us from time to time that kashmir resolution was just a signature away. I never see any supporting comment from India side wonder why they keep doing it is it to test waters about opposition to this idea in India or is it to keep morale high for their heroin addicted islamic audience that sabz hilali will fly soon over kashmir & then finally over redfort
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Moved the spy case story to intel thread. Please continue there. Thanks, ramana

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 23#p863623
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“The people of both countries want peace, but the ‘Establishment’ [common parlance for nationalist hawks] on both sides is resisting, and there will be little progress unless the political leadership asserts itself,” Mr Mattoo said.
Mr. Mattoo is either hallucinating or simply being economical with the truth. Two questions arise though:

- what is the statistically relevant data that says that people on the Pakistani side want peace with India? On the following slide and slides that follow, the data seems to indicate exactly the opposite:
http://sify.com/news/Impose-a-terror-ta ... jgafi.html

At some point, we have to get beyond, Abdul gave Babloo a free kulfi - hence they want peace - especially, if overwhelming data points to massive fund raising by ordinary Pakistanis to kill Indians.

- what is the definition of peace according to Indians and what is the definition of peace according to Pakistanis - here again, complete confusion exists on the Indian side - while Pakistani side seems to be quite clear...

From http://sify.com/news/This-is-Radio-Paki ... bdebb.html we have...
the vision and intent of the LeT (and other terrorists groups) cannot be separated from what the Pakistani people, the Pakistani state and their media want. Days after the 26/11 attacks, former foreign minister of Pakistan Sartaj Aziz nauseatingly tried to pass off the LeT as an organization that does social work.

Imagine, while bodies of the 26/11 were still not buried or cremated, this joker was declaring the main perpetrator and a known international terrorist organization as one that did 'social service'.

So, when Pakistanis talk about peace- they do not have the same definition that we think about. It seems that peace as defined by Pakistan and Pakistanis seems to involve flying the Pakistani flag over Delhi and, of course, continued jihadi terrorism against India.

In fact, I can think of dozens of Pakistanis (analysts, media and others) that have asked Indians to open up Indian markets for them or generously settle the Kashmir issue (on Pakistani terms, that is).

Strangely, I cannot think of any journalist that has openly pushed for closing down the LeT/JuD headquarters at Muridke (Lahore).

I understand the Pakistani reason for asking for Aman where their businessmen and artists can leech off Indian markets and yet fly the Pakistani flag in Kashmir and Delhi.

At least the Pakistanis are clear about what they want. But, what is our goal here, with this Aman fest?
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Arindam:

Amitabh Matoos was a hawk IMO once upon a time. Seeing TSP bludgeon India with impunity and getting away with it, I guess he developed Stockholm syndrome.

On another note, just a wild speculation, but is there a chance that former IPL chief Lalit Modi was shunted aside upon orders from higher up the UPA chain of command for his role in rejecting TSP players? Aman Ki Tamasha at work?
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The biggest myth of our times
The people of both countries want peace, but the ‘Establishment’ [common parlance for nationalist hawks] on both sides is resisting, and there will be little progress unless the political leadership asserts itself,
Don't know about Pakistan but pray how would so called ‘Establishment’ in India resist peace with paa'stan. Maybe they go inventing 26/11 and planting bombs in Hyderabad, Jaipur, Sarojini Nagar and Mumbai Trains.
Can Pakistani leadership assert itself and stop training,funding and sending Pakistani terrorist militia into India for starters.
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Arindam wrote:
In fact, I can think of dozens of Pakistanis (analysts, media and others) that have asked Indians to open up Indian markets for them or generously settle the Kashmir issue (on Pakistani terms, that is).

Strangely, I cannot think of any journalist that has openly pushed for closing down the LeT/JuD headquarters at Muridke (Lahore).
From a Paki point of view for the last 40 years they were not being given attention as a normal nation. They had no leverage over the world or India. This kind of blackmail leverage is the only way out for them to keep their H&D.
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Most likely connection to TSP will come out shortly ....
Flight from Paris to Atlanta was diverted to Bangor (Because some one claimed to have a fake passport and said he had explosives in his luggage)
Man claims explosives, flight diverted
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Acharya wrote:
Arindam wrote:
In fact, I can think of dozens of Pakistanis (analysts, media and others) that have asked Indians to open up Indian markets for them or generously settle the Kashmir issue (on Pakistani terms, that is).

Strangely, I cannot think of any journalist that has openly pushed for closing down the LeT/JuD headquarters at Muridke (Lahore).
From a Paki point of view for the last 40 years they were not being given attention as a normal nation. They had no leverage over the world or India. This kind of blackmail leverage is the only way out for them to keep their H&D.
Whatever it is, they are succeeding handsomely in their plot. Lets not kid ourselves.
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http://www.thepakistaninewspaper.com/ne ... p?id=16536
India refuses to extradite Kasab to Pakistan
MUMBAI, Apr 27: The Maharashtra government on Monday said it is not possible to hand over Ajmal Kasab, the lone surviving terrorist of 26/11 attacks, to Pakistan. “It is not possible to hand over Kasab to Pakistan, since the trial is in the last stage. I doubt Pakistan’s intention over the demand,” Home Minister RR Patil said while reacting to Pakistan’s demand to hand over Kasab. “In fact, the Pakistan Government should hand over 35 Pakistani accused of the attacks named by Kasab in his confession to the Indian Government,” Patil said. The nearly year-long trial in the 26/11 attacks concluded last month here and the verdict would be pronounced on May 3
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Pakistinians reading Economic thread here :mrgreen:
Miyan Forgot to add Zakat, Zaziya and Khum for the year.

Based on cost factor: Real GDP to grow to $196.58bn in 2010-11
* Govt estimates GDP growth rate to be 4%, exchange rate Rs 86.5 per dollar

By Saji d Chodhrey
ISLAMABAD: The government estimates suggest that the real gross domestic product (GDP) based on cost factor would grow to $196.589 billion with a GDP growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 per dollar during the next fiscal year 2010-11, official sources informed here on Monday. These estimates are going to be discussed and finalised at a meeting of the Medium Term Budgetary Framework scheduled on April 28, which will be presided over by the Planning Commission’s deputy chairman. Real GDP: It was projected to post a growth to $176.965 billion at the time of the announcement of the budget 2009-10 with a growth rate at 3 percent and exchange rate at Rs 83.83 a dollar. However, revised estimates suggest that real GDP would post a growth of 3.3 percent with exchange rate of Rs 84.7 a dollar and is expected to reach $177.556 billion by the end of the ongoing fiscal year 2009-10. The government estimates suggest that the real GDP based on cost factor would grow to $196.589 billion with a GDP growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 per dollar during the next fiscal year 2010-11. Real GDP was projected to grow to Rs 14.835 trillion with a growth rate at 3 percent at the time the announcement of the budget, however, revised estimates suggest that the real GDP would grow to Rs 15.039 trillion by June 30, 2010 with a growth rate at 3.3 percent. It has been projected that the real GDP would grow to Rs 17.005 trillion with GDP growth target at 4 percent in the upcoming fiscal year 2010-11, the sources further informed. Nominal GDP: The nominal GDP was projected in the budget 2009-10 to grow to $168.400 billion with a growth rate of 3 percent. However, revised estimates suggest that GDP growth in the ongoing fiscal year 2009-10 would be higher to 3.3 percent of the GDP and nominal GDP to reach at $170.236 billion by June 30, 2010. It has been projected that nominal GDP growth with a growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 a dollar would reach $187.236 billion by June 2011.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg5_2
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^^
Economic outlook of Indian subcontinent for the next 5 years as predicted by IMF.

Seems like there wont be a change in the present hierarchy of per-capita GDP in the subcontinent for the next five years .
Pak will still retain its nominal position of 3rd behind Srilanka and India. Though BD and even Afghanistan are going to be on course to catch up Pak at the end of the next decade.

But the only unknown is the present population of Pak. When was the last time a decent census has been done ?
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Lilo wrote:
But the only unknown is the present population of Pak. When was the last time a decent census has been done ?
Haven't bothered to check exactly but the last "proper" census in Pakistan was 30 years ago. Something was done again in the last 15 years but it was not census.
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Based on cost factor: Real GDP to grow to $196.58bn in 2010-11
* Govt estimates GDP growth rate to be 4%, exchange rate Rs 86.5 per dollar

By Saji d Chodhrey
ISLAMABAD: The government estimates suggest that the real gross domestic product (GDP) based on cost factor would grow to $196.589 billion with a GDP growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 per dollar during the next fiscal year 2010-11, official sources informed here on Monday. These estimates are going to be discussed and finalised at a meeting of the Medium Term Budgetary Framework scheduled on April 28, which will be presided over by the Planning Commission’s deputy chairman. Real GDP: It was projected to post a growth to $176.965 billion at the time of the announcement of the budget 2009-10 with a growth rate at 3 percent and exchange rate at Rs 83.83 a dollar. However, revised estimates suggest that real GDP would post a growth of 3.3 percent with exchange rate of Rs 84.7 a dollar and is expected to reach $177.556 billion by the end of the ongoing fiscal year 2009-10. The government estimates suggest that the real GDP based on cost factor would grow to $196.589 billion with a GDP growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 per dollar during the next fiscal year 2010-11. Real GDP was projected to grow to Rs 14.835 trillion with a growth rate at 3 percent at the time the announcement of the budget, however, revised estimates suggest that the real GDP would grow to Rs 15.039 trillion by June 30, 2010 with a growth rate at 3.3 percent. It has been projected that the real GDP would grow to Rs 17.005 trillion with GDP growth target at 4 percent in the upcoming fiscal year 2010-11, the sources further informed. Nominal GDP: The nominal GDP was projected in the budget 2009-10 to grow to $168.400 billion with a growth rate of 3 percent. However, revised estimates suggest that GDP growth in the ongoing fiscal year 2009-10 would be higher to 3.3 percent of the GDP and nominal GDP to reach at $170.236 billion by June 30, 2010. It has been projected that nominal GDP growth with a growth rate of 4 percent and exchange rate at Rs 86.5 a dollar would reach $187.236 billion by June 2011.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg5_2[/quote]

Real GDP for 2010-11 is $196.589 billion
Nominal GDP on June 2011 is $187.236 billion
Real GDP Growth rate : 4%
Nominal GDP Growth rate : 4%
How can Real GDP be greater than Nominal GDP in a country like Pakistan with more than 20% inflation
What is the base year for the Real GDP?
Madrassa Math onlee :((
Pakis have some IMF and World Bank debt maturing in 2011 to a tune of more than $3 Billion(To be verified). I wonder if they have enough cash flow to pay it back.
My estimates are Nominal GDP will be $130 billion for Pakistan and the rupee will reach 100 by 2011 unless 3.5 friends show a lot of generosity.
I have collected a number of world bank statistics on Pakistan and somehow I felt a lot of numbers have been manipulated. For example the gross capital formation in Pakistan has never reached more than 25%, yet they report GDP growth rates of 7 to 8% in some years. The literacy rate is in the 50% range which I read is also manipulated and the real literacy rate is in the 35% range.

Many of the numbers are such that it maintains equal equal with India.
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CRamS wrote:Arindam:

Amitabh Matoos was a hawk IMO once upon a time. Seeing TSP bludgeon India with impunity and getting away with it, I guess he developed Stockholm syndrome.

On another note, just a wild speculation, but is there a chance that former IPL chief Lalit Modi was shunted aside upon orders from higher up the UPA chain of command for his role in rejecting TSP players? Aman Ki Tamasha at work?
You assume that the vast numbers of people in the GoI are interested in geopolitics and peace with Pakistan rather than earning money today. I think you misread the GoI. Ideology and love for Pakistan will always be trumped by love of money. There is no money to be made in Pakistan. India will slobber after the US because it is a cash cow. If Pakistan offered riches to India - Indians would be slobbering after Pakistan despite getting kicked by Pakistan like we slobber after the US despite getting kicked. The US employs 1 million Indians, and a billion Indians slobber after the US. That is what is called a good return on investment

Pakistanis are to be congratulated for sticking to their stand and swimming in shit despite the money to be made in India. They have allowed themselves to be controlled by the US bribing a handful of Pakis, rather than 100 million Pakis making money out of India in the same illegal ways that Indians make money. Ideologically, Pakistan is a far more powerful and successful state than India. It is a travesty to attribute to India any ideology when the only God is money. The US has controlled 150 million Pakis by bribing just 100,000 Pakis - a 1:1500 ratio. India has a worse ratio. India has required the US to bribe 1 million - giving a 1:1000 ratio for India to see the US as God. India is more costly for US than Pakistan.
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SSS piece in ATOL
Showdown looms in North Waziristan

There are some data nuggets tucked away - worth reading in full!
Khawaja and former US Central Intelligence Agency director James Woolsey worked unsuccessfully after the September 11, 2001, attacks on the US to prevent the invasion of Afghanistan
We know Woolsey is as paki as an American can be, but could he have done that?
Along with an American friend, Mansoor Ejaz, who was close to right-wing Republicans, Khawaja worked on a project for peace in South Asia.
Mansoor Ejaz and Khalid Khawaja....
They met the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan [Pakistani Taliban] Hakeemullah Mehsud
implies he is alive!

There is also a Taliban version of the Khawaja story in that piece.
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Four policemen killed in Peshawar blast
PESHAWAR: A suicide car bomb attack targeted a police check post on the outskirts of Peshawar early Wednesday, killing four policemen and wounding six other people, police said.

The suicide bomber rammed an explosive laden vehicle into an armoured personnel carrier, reported DawnNews.

“The vehicle was coming from the tribal area. It was full of explosives and the suicide attacker was coming from Mohmand,” police official Liaqat Ali told AFP by telephone.

The blast took place early morning and has severely damaged the police check post. Authorities have cordoned off the area.

According to the Peshawar CCPO, the target of the attack was not the police check post but some other location. —Agencies
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CRamS wrote: Whatever it is, they are succeeding handsomely in their plot. Lets not kid ourselves.
If the plot was to become the laughing stock for the rest of the world, then certainly they have "handsomely" succeeded.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Malayappan wrote:SSS piece in ATOL
Showdown looms in North Waziristan
From the article:
"They met the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan [Pakistani Taliban] Hakeemullah Mehsud, Mufti Waliur Rahman Mehsud [chief of the Taliban in South Waziristan] and the Khalifa Sahib [Sirajuddin Haqqani]. Khawaja brought with him a list of 14 commanders and he tried to convince Hakeemullah Mehsud and Waliur Rahman Mehsud that all those commanders, including Qari Zafar [a leader of the Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi] and others are Indian plants among the mujahideen and the Taliban should get rid of them. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Both Hakeemullah and Waliur Rahman were tolerant of those allegations against their own commanders and they were silent. However, these people did some other things which made them suspicious," Umar said
Good that the SDRE name itself causes misgiving between the good, bad and the ugly Taliban factions!! :twisted:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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U.S. Begins Inquiry on Spy Network in Pakistan

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/28/world ... actor.html
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Was Just watching coverage of Shoib Sania weddign and was a bit amazed
1- Only 1 dish restriction on all weddings
2- During power cuts( which apprently was pretty common) the RAPE were not allowed to use generators as thier neighbours will go mad.

Looks like the Mango Abdul's quality of life is really super these in PAK. Something got to give soon...............
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^^All those misguided desis who went to TSP to attend the wedding will now have TSP visa permanently on their passports. tch tch. Will scar their quality of life in traveling anywhere abroad, seems to me, now on...
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