Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2010

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby svenkat » 19 May 2010 07:55

There has been consistent disinformation about Indian society as well.That the vast masses are 'kept' in darkness.This accusation has a 'ring' of truth about it. There is a gap between the Hinduism of the 'classes' and 'masses'.To some extent,this is inevitable in Hinduism,(but this is considered as natural evolution)whose idea of religion is not something that was declared one fine day and will give instant salvation to everyone.The interplay between different aspects of life is not simple.The gora thinkers know it,yet the cold war warriors persist in calumny and psy-ops and their religion has no compunction in using such methods.

Also even a practicing Hindu is not comfortable with all the rituals outside his own sub creed.So the gora discomfort is nothing extraordinary.It is their deliberate disinformation and misrepresentation which is the problem.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby sanjaykumar » 19 May 2010 08:00

To be charitable, these rituals were okay before television, magazines and surfing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Prem » 19 May 2010 08:10

Is slaughtering of animals in Halal style in full public view acceptable in the eyes of Knows All Religions of Non Pagans? There is a reason why children are not allowed to visit slaughter houses. And what do they say , a visit to slaughter house will turn you Vegan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Carl_T » 19 May 2010 08:18

sanjaykumar wrote:To be charitable, these rituals were okay before television, magazines and surfing.

Not quite, there has been deep discomfort about certain rituals outside your own community for a long time, most prominently during British rule. I am not aware of similar notions before that, perhaps an internalization of colonial critiques.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Carl_T » 19 May 2010 08:30

shiv wrote:In modern Western societies religious discrimination is looked at with the same attitude as discrimination against gays. But the mental images of what is evil and what is not evil remain because the images of "grotesque" multi-armed false gods are all deeply rooted civilizational images of what is evil. A Hindu who is a RAPE equivalent is thought to be the "modern" Hindu. You only have to be in any one of hundreds of ordinary Hindu temple on any given day to see a flower bedecked "graven image" of a multi-armed goddess being worshipped in a ritual that ends in extremely loud drum beating, chanting and conch-shell blowing. A Hindu who practices ordinary day to day Hinduism such as taking part in that temple ritual - would spark off he same deep fears of evil and make someone ask an Indian "You're not like that are you". This is less about "Christianity" and more about how "evil" is defined in the psyche of people who have grown up in a civilization with a Christian ethos/background. Blaming religion directly would be a bogey. IMHO

Shiv-ji, there is certainly an orientalist construction of Hinduism in the west, but I don't think you're characterizing it right, at least in the US. Hinduism is rather seen as something as "exotic" with "elephant gods and cows" and "yoga and meditation". It is seen as something "benign" rather than "evil". The "evil" tag has been firmly won by another religion!

Regarding "Temple of Doom" representation, that was a long time ago, while the Christian evangelist Right will still stick to that representation, it is not a uniform one. But this probably belongs in India-US thread.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Prem » 19 May 2010 08:43

More of the same ( But Sir Why Elevate a BC pervaiz Elachi to any Sikhi level)
Kamran Shafi
Additionally, one must look at the cavalier way in which the IMAX theatre was ordered by Pervaiz Elahi in typical Sikha Shahi (which had nothing to do with Maharaja Ranjit Singh please, who was a great and just and wise ruler) fashion as if the Chaudhries actually owned Punjab. An IMAX theatre, the equipment of which needs a temperature of 26C and near-zero humidity


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Re: About why Westerners preferred Pakistan over India

Postby shaardula » 19 May 2010 08:44

SSridhar wrote:There has been a few posts on the subject issue. Many views have been expressed, most of which are true. Reasons have ranged from paganism, Indian food habits, hospitable & affable RAPE impressing the Westerners etc.

The US simply ignored India for the most part


sridhar there was this post here by a Life magazine reporter. circla '47-'48. even in jinnah's own perception, tsp would traction mainly bcoz of the geological location and right from day 1 they were planning to milk usa. and right from day 1 they have seen this as their nirvana. somebody posted that article here and it must be in one of the archives.

i think 60 years on, tsp has played to their strengths very well. only they are a shishupala. when their quota of 100 pardons is completed is anybodies guess.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 08:54

-- Moved to Indo-US thread --
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Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 08:55

shaardula, it is the very first link in the very first post in this thread.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 08:58

-moved to Indo-US thread-
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Carl_T » 19 May 2010 09:26

~OT deleted~

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Satya_anveshi » 19 May 2010 09:38

--sorry old story--
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Dipanker » 19 May 2010 09:42

^^ OT posts, discussion of popularity/unpopularity of hinduism in America does not belong to this TSP thread?

My 2cents is that may be there has not been a concerted effort to market it? But anyway OT.

should the OT posts be moved to Indo-US thread maybe?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Anujan » 19 May 2010 10:59

Dig deep enough and you find TFTA army involved in NY failed bum attempt

Pakistan arrests army officer linked to Times Square bomb suspect
Pakistan Investigators have arrested a Pakistani army major linked to the prime suspect in the botched attempt to bomb New York City's Times Square early this month, Pakistani law enforcement sources said Tuesday.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Gagan » 19 May 2010 14:56

400% chance that this army major will also be involved in 26/11.

If true, Karma catching up to a purelander

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby K Mehta » 19 May 2010 17:06

BijuShet wrote:An interesting book link from Scribd. (can be read for free on site but for free pdf download and print you need a scribd or facebook id )
Who Owns Pakistan - Shahid-ur-Rahman
Gives a good history of TSP and how the 22 robber baron families have stolen/accumalated power and wealth from their fellow TSPians. This book is dated from 1997 but still has good data on each family and their asset values.

This book is available free on web at http://richpaki.tripod.com/
The PDF version can be downloaded at http://www.haqeeqat.org/2009/11/28/who-owns-pakistan/

One recommendation READ IT!
Also if you can get your hands on Ayesha Siddiqua's Military Inc, even better!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby kenop » 19 May 2010 17:07

Anujan wrote:Dig deep enough and you find TFTA army involved in NY failed bum attempt

Pakistan arrests army officer linked to Times Square bomb suspect

Quote from the LA Times report
Pakistani investigators are also looking into a trip that Shahzad and the suspected Taliban liaison took from Islamabad to the town of Hasan Abdal in August, Pakistani law enforcement sources said. The pair stayed at the house of a friend of Shahzad's father, Bahar ul-Haq, a retired vice air marshal in the air force.

Cadet college at Hassan Abdal is the alma-mater of DCH.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby anupmisra » 19 May 2010 17:16

A nation defined
Cricketing cheats

Abdullah Hussein in his letter titled "Cricketing cheats" (May 11) has compared the behaviour of Pakistani batsman Salman Butt with a player of the New Zealand cricket team. The Pakistani player shirked to reveal if his bat had touched the ball whereas the New Zealander voluntarily signalled that the ball had touched the ground though the umpire could have been misled in their team's favour. This incident should not be taken lightly, as it reflects the ethical standard of a majority of Pakistanis.

There is also a message for our preachers in this who make futile efforts to reform society. They must understand that ethical norms are determined by social values and strong culture, and not by filling one's heart with fear of punishment in the hereafter. It appears that the religious indoctrination overseen by many former players for so long has failed to bring about any improvement in the ethics of the players.

Dr Najeeb A Khan

Islamabad

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 17:23

Hamid Mir sends legal notice to Daily Times.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg1_3

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Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 17:41

The cartoon show South Park made fun of the Prophet Muhammad, and some Muslim blogger said that this invites the fate of Theo van Gogh (or some such threat). In response another cartoonist suggested that May 20 be the "Draw Muhammad Day" (she later retracted, saying her proposal was meant as a joke). In the meantime the May 20th date became a rallying cry of sorts.

In a new development.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ures-ss-02

LAHORE: A Pakistani court Wednesday ordered authorities to block Facebook in the country over a page encouraging users to post caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) on the site.

Thousands of members of the social networking site have launched an online campaign demanding a boycott of Facebook over the offending page.

The depiction of any prophet is strictly prohibited in Islam as blasphemous and Muslims across the world staged angry protests over the publication of satirical cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) in European newspapers in 2006.

A Facebook user set up a page called “Draw Mohammed Day”, allegedly inviting people to send in their caricatures of the Muslim Prophet on May 20.

Justice Ejaz Chaudhry of the Lahore High Court directed the Pakistan Telecommunications Authority (PTA) to block Facebook after a group of lawyers moved a petition in the court.

An interim order has been issued until May 31, when the court is to start a detailed hearing of the case.


On the information page on Facebook for the contest - which was still visible on Wednesday - the organizers described it as a “snarky” response to Muslim bloggers who “warned” the creators of the Comedy Central television show “South Park” over a recent depiction of the Prophet (PBUH) in a bear suit.

“We are not trying to slander the average Muslim,” the Facebook page creators wrote. “We simply want to show the extremists that threaten to harm people because of their Mohammad depictions that we're not afraid of them. That they can't take away our right to freedom of speech by trying to scare us into silence.”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby SSridhar » 19 May 2010 17:59

anupmisra wrote:A nation defined
Cricketing cheats

Abdullah Hussein in his letter titled "Cricketing cheats" (May 11) has compared the behaviour of Pakistani batsman Salman Butt with a player of the New Zealand cricket team. The Pakistani player shirked to reveal if his bat had touched the ball whereas the New Zealander voluntarily signalled that the ball had touched the ground though the umpire could have been misled in their team's favour. This incident should not be taken lightly, as it reflects the ethical standard of a majority of Pakistanis.

There is also a message for our preachers in this who make futile efforts to reform society. They must understand that ethical norms are determined by social values and strong culture, and not by filling one's heart with fear of punishment in the hereafter. It appears that the religious indoctrination overseen by many former players for so long has failed to bring about any improvement in the ethics of the players.


Hasn't Gen. Zia already justified lying for a good cause as Islamic ? How can the Islamic code be revised by ordinary mortals now ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby jrjrao » 19 May 2010 18:03

Cultural invasion :((
http://thepost.com.pk/LetNews.aspx?dtlid=251123&catid=4
I was shocked to see a Pakistani actress in knee-long Western styled skirt on a local TV... (this is) ‘cultural invasion’ launched against our civilisation.

I would definitely not want my daughter to believe, when she grows up, that a dress revealing all but a few parts of body is acceptable....

If this keeps on increasing, we shall have only one of the two choices i.e. either to further disassociate ourselves (from PeeTeeVee) or to react strongly to safeguard our way of life (i..e, JEEEEEHAAAAAD, here we come).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby arun » 19 May 2010 18:34

arun wrote:The “ Jihad-fi-Sabilillah” or translated “Jihad in the path of Allah” part of the motto of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan seems to have leaked across service lines and indoctrinated the offspring of those who served into attempting to commit acts of Jihad half way across the world.

Would be Pakistani descent car bomber of New York’s Times Square, Faisal Shahzad’s father Baharul Haq is a retired Air Vice Marshal of the Air Force of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and went on to serve as the head of the Islamic Republic’s Civil Aviation Authority:

NY bomber's father big shot in Pak military

The would be Pakistani origin Times Square car bomber’s connections to the top levels of the Military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan does not end there. Faisal Shahzad was the nephew of Major General (Retd) Tajul Haq who served as the Inspector General of Frontier Corps (IGFC):

Faisal Shahzad’s father vacates Peshawar house


Hamm ………………. The “ Jihad-fi-Sabilillah” or translated “Jihad in the path of Allah” part of the motto of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan not only seems to have leaked across service lines and indoctrinated the offspring of those who served into attempting to commit acts of Jihad half way across the world, it has also seduced one the Army‘s very own into assisting in the commission of the act:

Anujan wrote:Dig deep enough and you find TFTA army involved in NY failed bum attempt

Pakistan arrests army officer linked to Times Square bomb suspect
Pakistan Investigators have arrested a Pakistani army major linked to the prime suspect in the botched attempt to bomb New York City's Times Square early this month, Pakistani law enforcement sources said Tuesday.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Anujan » 19 May 2010 19:02

^^^
ISPR has issued a denial that the Major was arrested because of his connections to Times Square plot. Apparently he was arrested for "insubordination"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby surinder » 19 May 2010 19:32

K Mehta wrote:
BijuShet wrote:An interesting book link from Scribd. (can be read for free on site but for free pdf download and print you need a scribd or facebook id )
Who Owns Pakistan - Shahid-ur-Rahman
Gives a good history of TSP and how the 22 robber baron families have stolen/accumalated power and wealth from their fellow TSPians. This book is dated from 1997 but still has good data on each family and their asset values.

This book is available free on web at http://richpaki.tripod.com/
The PDF version can be downloaded at http://www.haqeeqat.org/2009/11/28/who-owns-pakistan/

One recommendation READ IT!
Also if you can get your hands on Ayesha Siddiqua's Military Inc, even better!



Cartoonist Rajinder Puri says that many of the controlling families of TSP are secretly Sikh, forced to outwardly convert but inwardly are still Sikh. I am not sure how much merit is there in the assertion, the e-Book above does not say that either.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Amber G. » 19 May 2010 20:15

sorry if already posted:
Pakistan blocks Facebook in row over Muhammad drawings
Authorities in Pakistan block access to Facebook after a competition page encouraged users to post drawings of the prophet Muhammad

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby shiv » 19 May 2010 20:16



Rarely have I seen a more pointless and crappy article as this one.
All he advises is taqiya. No introspection. No correction. Nothing. Says a sodding soofy in soofing Saudi told him. So what's new?

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Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 20:29

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg7_4
Audio tape implicates Hamid Mir: Khawaja’s son

Osama Khalid, son of former Inter-Services Intelligence official Khalid Khawaja, has confirmed that the audiotape of the telephonic conversation between TV anchor Hamid Mir and Usman – the earlier unidentified Taliban militant – is original, as his family used to talk to him during negotiations for his father’s release, a private TV channel reported on Tuesday. Speaking in a current affairs programme on a private TV channel, Osama said the ‘Asian Tigers’, a little known Taliban-linked group, was an agent of the Indian intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW). “....

He claimed that Hamid Mir had hatched a conspiracy to murder his father after receiving money from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
...
Osama also confirmed that his younger brother was working for the al Qaeda.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby munna » 19 May 2010 20:31

surinder wrote:Cartoonist Rajinder Puri says that many of the controlling families of TSP are secretly Sikh, forced to outwardly convert but inwardly are still Sikh. I am not sure how much merit is there in the assertion, the e-Book above does not say that either.


Surinderji he is right, all the controllers of Pakistan are covert Sikhs who are in turn agents of Manmohan Singh who in turn is an agent of yeevil banias. Problem solved. :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Brad Goodman » 19 May 2010 20:35

Munna ji how does the italian connection fit into this picture :shock:

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Postby CRamS » 19 May 2010 20:39

A_Gupta wrote:BG Varghese on Thimpu
http://www.bgverghese.com/ThimphuMeet.htm


Lots of naivete, wishful thinking, and some dumb analysis. Posting faith on Mush's so called "solution" to Kashmir tells you the worth of this analsysis: not worth the piece of paper its written on. Through hair-splitting and nit-picking of trivialities, one can make even Hitler look reasonable. USA/TSP combine have thrown enough dog bones to their man MMS into selling to the Indian public, what is essentially a slow-motion surrender of Indian interests at Thimpu, lets not loose sight of this fact. And yes, contrary to what Verghese calims, the conviction of Kesab is at best a footnote in Mumbai. The real perpetrators are sitting at GHQ in Rawilipindi. Even TSP is laughing its ass off at India's impotence, self-congrajulatory euphoria on the conviction of a disposable footsoldier while they show the middle finger and threaten more Mumbais. And the utimate slap on India's face; somebody posted an interview that Hamid Mir did with Quereshi asking if TSP will "accept" the death sentence to the pig. I mean this is some chutzpah; goes even beyond TSP's contempt for India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Brad Goodman » 19 May 2010 20:48

shiv wrote:Total population of Top 10: 201,852,340

Population of PAKISTAN alone.. 174,578,558

Pakistan houses about half the world's population of people in failed states.


Shiv Ji if you subtract Iraq (population 28,945,569)from the failed states list the total population will be 172,906,771. Which is less than Pakis. Now the reason I chose Iraq is because if not for Saddam and unkils policies Iraq was a prosperous nation and relatively moderate. Plus they have enough natural resources to mimic other arab nations in near future. Least if broken all three provinces can live in relatively peaceful and prosperous manner.

Alas if pakis are broken we would have Sindh which can emerge as a relatively prosperous country. Balochistan modeled like Nepal which is poor but not a trouble maker to world and then we have pakjab & pashtun lands which will remain trouble makers
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Postby A_Gupta » 19 May 2010 21:03

Journalism in Pakistan is mostly lifafa journalism. The reason that multiple points of view are represented is because these represent warring factions within Pakistan's army and ISI.

http://blog.dawn.com/2010/05/19/puppet-strings/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Prem » 19 May 2010 21:59

Uncle' wish is Pakistani Wish too.
Pak looking to extend army chief Kayani's tenure
http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/may/ ... -chief.htm
The Pakistani administration is considering creating a new post to ensure that army chief Ashfaq Parvez Kayani [ Images ] will continue to play a crucial role in the military establishment in Pakistan.The Obama [ Images ] administration regards Kayani as a key ally in the war against terror. As army chief, Kayani also has de-facto control of Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. Pakistan's defence minister Chauhdary Ahmed Mukhtar has said that Kayani was not being considered for an extension, the Financial Times reported.Kayani could be made the chief of defence staff or could be appointed to the joint chiefs of staff committee. The Pakistan cabinet is curretly exploring ways of giving Kayani direct oversight over the army, navy and air force.Experts believe that extending Kayani's tenure will create dissatisfaction among the officers who are awaiting a turnover at the upper levels of the Pak army. The extension will also hurt the army's efforts of institution building. Kayani took over as army chief after Pervez Musharraf [ Images ] stepped down in 2007.Kayani previously headed the Inter-Services-Intelligence, Pakistan's spy agency. Pakistan has been under military rule for more than half its existence, since independence. The military is widely regarded as the only working organisation in the country and plays a crucial role in formulating Pakistan's foreign policy. Kayani's possible sucessors include Lieutenant General Khaleed Wyne who is the Pakistan army's [ Images ] current chief of general staff.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Prem » 19 May 2010 22:03

U.S.-Pakistan Statement: What’s Faisal Shahzad Between Friends?
By Spencer Ackerman 5/19/10 8:37 AM It’s really the last sentence of the two-paragraph joint statement emerging from national security adviser Jim Jones and CIA Director Leon Panetta’s visit to Pakistan that’s important. “President Zardari noted that Pakistan desires a long-term, multifaceted, and durable relationship with the United States which no incident should be able to adversely impact,” the statement reads. That’s a response to a still-reverberating comment from Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who said soon after the failed Times Square car bomb attempt that there would be “severe consequences” should a successful attack ever be traced back to Pakistan. (Her spokesman, P.J. Crowley, has tried to walk the comments back, saying, “I think she was responding to a hypothetical question.”)
But what did the Panetta-Jones trip reap from the Pakistanis? “Both parties acknowledged the extreme challenge of thwarting each and every plot and terrorist action, both sides pledged to intensify efforts, increase cooperation, and do everything possible to protect our citizens,” the statement reads

President Asif Ali Zardari said that militancy and terrorism was the common enemy and that the existing robust cooperation between the two countries must continue to fight the menace. General Jones and Director Panetta provided an update on the ongoing investigation into the Times Square terrorist incident. General Jones expressed appreciation for the excellent cooperation the United States is receiving from Pakistan as well as the tremendous sacrifice of the Pakistani military, law enforcement and people in their efforts to combat extremists. The talks covered measures that both countries are, and will be, taking to confront the common threat we face from extremists and prevent such potential attacks from occurring again and both parties acknowledged the extreme challenge of thwarting each and every plot and terrorist action, both sides pledged to intensify efforts, increase cooperation, and do everything possible to protect our citizens. President Zardari noted that Pakistan desires a long-term, multifaceted, and durable relationship with the United States which no incident should be able to adversely impact.

http://washingtonindependent.com/85173/ ... en-friends

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Prem » 19 May 2010 22:09

Paki Jernails can be good film director im Holy/Lolywood. Note the "kill 40" as everyone knows its Dramabazi.

Pakistan forces "kill 40"; U.S. officials in talks
l KALAYA, Pakistan (Reuters) – More than 200 Pakistani Taliban attacked a security post in the northwestern region of Orakzai on Wednesday, triggering a clash in which at least 40 militants and two soldiers were killed, officials said.The violence came as U.S. National Security Adviser Jim Jones and CIA director Leon Panetta were in Pakistan to urge the government to step up pressure on militant groups following a botched May 1 car-bombing in New York's Time Square, a White House official said.Pakistani forces have increased their attacks in the Orakzai and Khyber regions of the northwest in recent weeks after largely clearing Taliban strongholds in other areas.The militants emerged out of forested mountains to attack the checkpoint in the Dobbari area soon after dawn, said a government official in the region, Nauman Khan."They first fired rocket-propelled grenades at our checkpost and then closed in and attacked," said a military officer in the northwest who declined to be identified."We responded quickly and repulsed the attack after fierce fighting which lasted about three hours," said the officer.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Avinash R » 19 May 2010 22:23

Prem wrote:Paki Jernails can be good film director im Holy/Lolywood. Note the "kill 40" as everyone knows its Dramabazi.

Pakistan forces "kill 40"; U.S. officials in talks
l KALAYA, Pakistan (Reuters) – More than 200 Pakistani Taliban attacked a security post in the northwestern region of Orakzai on Wednesday, triggering a clash in which at least 40 militants and two soldiers were killed, officials said.The violence came as U.S. National Security Adviser Jim Jones and CIA director Leon Panetta were in Pakistan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100519/ts_ ... n_violence


No Al-Keeda No.3 this time?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Brad Goodman » 19 May 2010 22:30

Just saw this 'LeT trained Times Square bomber in PoK'

In the latest and sensational twist to the botched Times Square bombing plot, a Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) commander has claimed that Faisal Shahzad, the confessed bomb plotter of Pakistani origin, had received terror training in one of the ‘jihad’ camps of the banned outfit in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK).


If this news is true we need to launch a campaign to write letters to editors higlighting how LeT is a common threat to unkil and not just India. I think this will be a nice way to put some pressure on pakis and isi bosses who will spin all kinds of theories to protect their protege.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Apr. 11, 2

Postby Brad Goodman » 19 May 2010 22:48

I am suprised this has not been posted here. If nothing for its comic value


Understanding the Indian mindset

Let’s admit that the ‘Hindus of Hindustan’ are smart people. :twisted: They have intelligently projected themselves as pacifists throughout the world despite several facts to the contrary: they have fought three wars with Pakistan; engineered the break-up of Pakistan and mid-wifed the creation of Bangladesh; waged a war against China; sent their army to occupy Sri Lanka in the name of peace-keeping; and started the nuclear arms and missile race in South Asia. It is time to explore the Hindu mind in its historical context before any response is made to the current Indian peace overtures. One way to understand the Hindu mindset is to analyse what its leading lights thought and felt about the Muslims of the sub-continent.
The first leading light could be Lala Lajpat Rai. He revealed his inner thoughts about the Muslims in a private letter to another Hindu leader C.R. Das: “There is one point more which has been troubling me very much of late and one which I want you to think carefully, and that is the question of Hindu-Mohammedan unity. I have devoted most of the time during the last six months to the study of Muslim history and Muslim law and I am inclined to think it is neither possible nor practicable.” Lalaji is dead but his ideas are a part of the sub-continental collective religio-political consciousness and thus serve as a source of inspiration to many of his Hindu followers in India, even today.
The second one was Pandit Madan Mohan Malaviya who was praised by the liberal Congressman Jawaharlal Nehru as “a gentle and winning personality” and by another Hindu liberal C.Y. Chintamani as the one who was “full of the milk of human kindness.” However, Malaviya’s “milk of human kindness” flowed only for the Hindus as he held the most unkind words in his armoury for the Muslims. Addressing a huge Hindu public gathering in Lahore in 1922, he exhorted them against the Muslims in these words: “Gentle folks! So long as you fear rascals, they will continue to be impudent. :rotfl: They only dread the big stick. :lol: Give them a hard fight…” This Panditji, who was calling Muslims “rascals” and an enemy of the Hindus was not an ordinary person. In fact, he was an authority on Hindu law and religion; had been in the Congress since 1886 and in the Central Legislature since 1910; and was the founding father of the Banaras Hindu University. 8)


The Sachar Report (2006) admits that there is “substantial demand from the community (the Muslims) for fertility regulation and for modern contraceptives” and thus “Muslim population growth has slowed down as fertility has declined substantially.” :roll:


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