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pgbhat wrote:
LINK wrote:Asifuddin said that there were many Indian participants (majority of who were women) in the space camp and it was sad to see no Pakistanis there. He blamed the absence of his compatriots on the lack of awareness. :(( But since he has managed to achieve his dream, or at least get half way there, he pledges to promote science and technology among Pakistani youth and is keen to help those interested in joining the NASA space camp next year.

Noob question about spaceflight. I have heard that women sometimes go up in space flights. Do they get married before going with their husband? Otherwise how can women be allowed?
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^ Yes they have to married, plus the Kuffars go up in space and stamp all over chaand. :(
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ArmenT wrote: The blog post has one thing wrong -- it misidentifies the Palla fish totally. The Palla fish is actually the same species as the legendary fish beloved of the Bengalis, i.e. the "Hilsa" of "Illish maach" fame. Do the Pakis want to become Bangladeshis all of a sudden?
A large number of google links identify "Pallas" as Notopterus notopterus. The Sindhi "Pallu" however is indeed the Hilsa or Tenualosa ilisha. So The Friday Times didn't have it right. I'll make the correction. Tx.
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In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the self proclaimed haven for the Muslims of the Indian Sub Continent :wink: , they seem never to let the same Muslim religion, the same Sunni Sect of Islam or the same Hanafi school of Islamic jurisprudence get in the way of a bout of religion inspired violence :roll: .

Violence in Karachi as the Barelvi and the Deobandi square off:

11 hurt in sectarian clash, 24 ‘ASWJ men’ arrested
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Amir Mir writing in Outlook on the "Islamic Faultlines" in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan which contribute to religious inspired Muslim on Muslim violence which erupts there frequently:
Just Who Is Not A Kafir?

The Islamic faultlines in the state widens with extremists attacking minority sects

Amir Mir

War On The Kafirs

The broad Sunni-Shia division does not explain all of it
Most Sunnis adhere to the Hanafi school of jurisprudence. Only 5 per cent of the country’s population belongs to the Ahle Hadith sect or Wahabis.
The Sunnis are subdivided into the Barelvi and Deobandi schools of thought
The Deobandis and Wahabis consider the Barelvis as kafir, because they visit the shrines of saints, offer prayers, believe music, poetry and dance can lead to god
Barelvis constitute 60 per cent of the population. Deobandis and Wahabis together account for 20 per cent
Another 15 per cent are Shias, again considered kafir and subjected to repeated attacks
Since 2000, the Sunni-Shia conflict has claimed 5,000 lives
Others considered kafir are the religious minorities—Christians, Ismailis, Hindus, Sikhs, Parsis, Ahmadias, etc, who account for 5 per cent of the population
So, 20 per cent of the population effectively considers the remaining 80 per cent as kafir
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^

The 20% Deobandis and Wahabis know what to do now, I hope. The national agenda of Paquistan should be purity of islam, nothing else. Perhaps they can achieve 10+% growth in purity index. Earning interest on money is unislamic so GDP growth is haram.
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So, 20 per cent of the population effectively considers the remaining 80 per cent as kafir.
So much for the land of the pure. :(
We need purity. :((
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pgbhat wrote:
So, 20 per cent of the population effectively considers the remaining 80 per cent as kafir.
So much for the land of the pure. :(
We need purity. :((
Pakistan was made in the name of islam , A"Havan" for Muslims of joint India with Mullhas chanting "swaha".
The joke is real "kaffir" will rather be ok to be called Chaar Akkhari ( 4 letter) than Poaklim. If the are realy Purest among the Pures , ;et them discard all things made,invented by kaffirs.
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Here is Peace in Poakland. And Poak was asking why satisfaction at the departure of 100 faithfools.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... istan.html
Neighbors saw Masih’s s 11-year-old son come into the store, he said. The shopkeeper asked him if he was a Christian; the child responded that he was.“The shopkeeper refused to give him the packet of Surf and spoke very harshly to him,‘I don’t sell to any non-Muslim, you are not welcome here, don’t you dare ever come to my shop again,’” Murtaza said. The boy went home, upset. His neighbor, Murtaza, said that shortly afterward some area residents came to the door with the Muslim religious leader, Khan. “Your son has committed blasphemy against Muhammad, our beloved prophet – we can’t allow him to live, he should be punished,” Khan told Razia Masih, Murtaza said. “Razia got scared and said, ‘My son couldn’t do such a thing, he is only 11 years old.’”
( Now this Modus-operandis is old and was applied many time on Indics, remember Hakikat Rai of lahore , was of same age. These Pokas ae nothing but Paap )
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Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Three times is :?: ……………..

Friday Jan 1, 2010, Shah Hasan Khel:

96 dead in Lakki Marwat suicide blast

Friday Feb 5, 2010, Karachi:

Ashura carnage revisits Karachi

Friday March 5, 2010, Hangu:

Hangu: suicide bomber kills 14, hurt 25

Friday March 12, 2010, Lahore:

57 killed in Lahore suicide blasts

Friday April 16, 2010, Quetta:

11 killed in Quetta hospital suicide blast

Friday May 28, 2010 , Lahore:

Attackers target Lahore’s Ahmadi worshippers; 70 dead

Friday July 9, 2010, Yakka Ghund:

Mohmand blast death toll rises to 106
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arun, superb compilation.
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Ramana, a couple of days back, you asked a question about the ideological differences between the Punjabi Taliban and their present opponents, the PA+LeT. I was preparing to write a brief blog on the evolution of the current situation when 'arun' has posted the Amir Mir article on 'Who is not a Kafir ?'.

I quote from the above article what Khaled Ahmed says:
“Within Sunni Islam, the Deobandis and the Barelvis are not found anywhere outside India and Pakistan. The creation of these two sects was one of the masterstrokes of the Raj in its divide-and-rule policy.”
Khaled Ahmed is an extremely knowledgeable person in these matters and yet I think he was only partially correct above. Certainly, the Berelvis were the creation of the British. But, Deobandis cannot be thought of easily like that. Their history goes much before, about a century before even the founding of the seminary at Deoband, to the times of Shah Waliullah Dehelvi.

Waliullah was a Sufi but his stay at Makkah and Medinah coincided with ibn Wahhab's time. He was greatly influenced by him. Upon his return, he decided to rid Islam in the Indian subcontinent of Hindu practices and influences. In this he was like ibn Taymiya who also started as a Sufi but ended up as a Hanbali votary. In any case, Waliullah's return to India coincided with the declining Mughal empire and as usual, whenever that happens, 'Islam in danger', 'We should follow a stricter version to stop the decline' calls are made. Waliullah believed in the absolute truth of the Koran and the Sunnah (Hadith) and the times of the salafs (ancestors). He thus laid the foundation for Ahl-e-Hadith sect. Waliuallah's interpretations are the basis on which Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband functions even today.

Like Khalid Ahmed says, Deoband is a peculiar sect, peculiar only to the Indian subcontinent. That again flows from the exigencies of the situation. During the time of Waliullah, the Hindu Maratha and Sikh Kings were revolting, and the British East India Company began to make the presence here. Waliullah felt the declination of the Mughal power must be arrested. He realized that Islam could not be preserved, let alone spread, without power being in the hands of Muslims. His immediate focus therefore was on local problems, unlike the practitioners of Ahl-e-Hadiths in the Arabian Peninsula where they were more interested in power projection globally. This is the difference between the Deobandis and the Ahl-e-Hadees, IMO.

Similarly, when Dar-ul-Uloom Deoband was founded, the trauma of 1857 and the gruesome death toll of the Mughal empire was fresh in the minds of these people. Again, the immediate need was to drive away the British imperialists. Hence the Deobandis joined hands with the Indian National Congress. The twin aims of the Deobandis were defeating the Western Imperialists and purification of Islam in the Indian context. Thus, they are close to the Wahhabis but in an Indian context.

The Taliban, HuJI, HuM, LeJ, SSP are all Deobandis and LeT/JuD is Ahl-e-Hadith.
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Smokers’ Corner: Excuses, excuses
Here’s a brief knee-jerk guide to fend off ‘lies’ about Pakistani society becoming intolerant, delusional and paranoid. It was prepared and inspired by hours of TV-watching and passionate middle-class drawing-room navel gazing.

* In case of a suicide attack in a mosque or a shrine (in Punjab), just utter the following two words: “Blackwater and America.” In case of a similar suicide attack in Karachi, just say: “MQM!”

* When fanatics of a majority Muslim sect attack a minority Muslim sect, exhibit concern and anger. Then go out and burn an Israeli flag.

* When fanatics attack people of other minorities (Christians, Hindus, Ahmadis, etc.), don’t say anything. Start discussing the weather instead. “I say, fellow Muslim brother, very hot these days. Yes, fellow Muslim sister, very hot indeed. Care for some halal nimbu-paani?”
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ajit,
What is your world view? Pak is a terrorist state which is yet to reap its karmic fruits.Your version of taqqiya is tiresome at best.Can you explain your agenda?
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thanks ajit_tr sir, great LMU material.

psst, svenkat ji, dude doesn't understand sarcasm.
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Maybe there's a reason why your government is propagating all these conspiracy theories. It was anti-india rhetoric after partition and now it's everything that is non-muslim. But the fact is, it works for the pakistani govt. You blame everything on external factors and rest assure that you have a perfect nation. The west(and china), it seems, will not let pakistan fall either. You have this ability to keep the entire region busy with you.

Pakistan is here to stay for a long time. It will stay together not because of it's people but because of some nations in the west who have agreed that they can afford the 9/11 blow backs and all the cost that comes out of maintaining a nation state of pakistan.

I would like to feel sorry for your people but they are of the very same stock that kill hundreds of indians every year. How can you cite "ignorance" and claim "sympathy" for your actions? Your punishment is that you will stay in pakistan and watch your own people kill each other. Your economy will be propped up by the west just enough for it to exist.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-h ... 35950.html.

I do not know anything about the credibility of this journalist or the journal but nice to see the odd amirkhan discussing breaking up of pureland and the khujli it is causing to paki amirkhans.Read the comments.
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SSridhar wrote:The Taliban, HuJI, HuM, LeJ, SSP are all Deobandis and LeT/JuD is Ahl-e-Hadith.
Sridhar garu,

I found this old article from 4th October, 2000 by Khaled Ahmed. May be you know of it.

The Grand Deobandi Consensus

A far more detailed treatise is offered by Yoginder Sikand.

Deobandi and Ahle Hadith Rivalry and The Saudi Connection: A Look at History
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RajeshA wrote:I found this old article from 4th October, 2000 by Khaled Ahmed. May be you know of it.

The Grand Deobandi Consensus
Rajesh, thanks for the Khaled Ahmed article, which I had not seen before. As usual, he is a fountainhead of knowledge. From the above,
The third strand of fundamentalist movement which seems attracted to the Wahabi-Deobandi combine in Afghanistan, is the Naqshbandiya. Most of the Muslim-populated North Caucasian region in Russia follows the shrine-worshipping mystical order of the Naqshbandiya. The uprising in Chechnya and its incursion into Dagestan is turning the Naqshbandi followers to the more strict orthodoxy of the Saudi-based Wahabi order. Russian onslaught in Chechnya is transforming the mystical faith into a militant one.
Shah Waliullah himself was from the Naqshbandi order of Sufism. Four centuries before him, ibn Taimiya belonged to the Qadriya order of Sufism. He denounced the four fiqhs and placed reliance on the salafs. It was after ibn Taimiya that the concept of salafism became well entrenched. Khaled Ahmed is right about Naqshbandis turning to Wahhabism. There are a number of Naqshbandis living in Saudi Arabia perfectly at ease.

A common mistake that is generally made by Indians (and deliberately circulated by the Pakistanis) is that the Berelvis are more acceptable because they are less militant. I am speaking about Pakistani Berelvis here. This is wrong. The Berelvi order, founded by Sayyid Ahmed 'Berelvi', was an offshoot of Deobandism, though when it was founded there was no Deobandi order. Berelvi was a disciple of Shah Waliullah's son. Like in CAR countries Naqshbandi sect moving towads Wahhabism, in Pakistan the Berelvis are moving in large numbers to Deobandism.
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RajeshA wrote:A far more detailed treatise is offered by Yoginder Sikand.

Deobandi and Ahle Hadith Rivalry and The Saudi Connection: A Look at History
Yoginder Sikand is another deeply knowldgeable person. From both Khaled Ahmed's and Sikand's pieces (and from other sources as well), these Deobandi seminarians were derisively dismissed in early India as Wahhabis, The term 'wahhabi' was, in those days, a contemptuous word. The Saudi Kingdom was not liked much especially after the graves were demolished by them in Makkah & Medinah which they did after driving out the Hashemite King from Hejaz. The Ali Brothers, whose arrest by the British, led to a large Muslim uprising in India and which the INC exploited, finally became Ahl-e-Hadees.
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This paki is bemoaning his Hurt H&D
O' woe is me!

In shame at yet another insult: cricket
I TAKE exception to former ICC CEO Malcolm Speed calling PCB Chairman Ijaz Butt a “buffoon” and referring to the state of cricket in Pakistan as a “basket case” (July 3).
This is probably fortuitous since Pakistan is arguably already there and the state of cricket merely one tragi-comic reflection of the broader picture.
We are all responsible for the way Pakistan has rotted to the core. When we have lost respect for humanity towards our brethren; when honour is either in a pugree or a murdered woman; when religion is used for settling scores; when we are controlled by foreigners or worse their lackeys, the term “basket case” is indeed mild.
As a citizen of a country, I must bow my own head in shame at yet another insult. Are there any other people, Pakistani perhaps, left behind who feel that this is where ‘honour’ is and want to do something about beginning to redeem it?
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From the article above:
To quell any doubts about Pakistan's seemingly uncontrollable spiral into darkness, just recently, Foreign Policy Magazine ranked Pakistan as the tenth most failed state on earth and it would seem its leaders are hell bent on securing the number one slot - an honor it can add to their already dubious distinction as the world's largest incubator of jihadist extremism.
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Another Towel-throwing citizen
Rust in peace

This is apropos Masood Hasan's article "Rust in peace". Why blame Shoaib Akhtar only, I ask? Our nation -- sorry, we should be calling ourselves population – is full of uneducated, illiterate and unfit people. Are we, by any chance, fit to govern and solve the problems faced by our country? When corruption and fraud are the order of the day, how can we be fit? We are collectively a population of unfit people -- why blame Shoaib Akhtar only?

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Mohmand toll hits 103

By our corrspondent

GHALLANAI: ....The dead included 18 members of the anti-Taliban Ambar peace committee.
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Sehwag has this nasty habit of scoring a century and then throwing his wicket away without sealing victory
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but whenever he crossed 100, he scored big...150-200 range.
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svenkat wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-h ... 35950.html.

I do not know anything about the credibility of this journalist or the journal but nice to see the odd amirkhan discussing breaking up of pureland and the khujli it is causing to paki amirkhans.Read the comments.
Some of the TSP comments including bringing in Maoist insurgency as part of "South Asia" peace process discusssion. And I've seen even on TSP newspaper articles posted here doing an equal equal, TSP has extremist problem,India has naxal problem. Even some in DDM have done this equal equal. As TSP continues to suffer the blow back of its use of terror as an instrument of state policy, I expect them to start pumping in arms and ammunition, and logistical/intelligence support, perhaps even fostering collusion between LET and Naxals. Once that kind of a diabolical game plan is on full swing, I mean a combination of terror, and India's leftist morons like A'Roy etc providing the intellectual impetus, not to mention western "liberals"; India could very well have yet another beast to deal with. I hope RAW is looking into the angle and nipping it in the bud.
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The British did not only gift Pakistan with lethal boundaries, according to renowned Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid, Pakistan inherited a "security state" from British rule, described by scholars as "the viceregal tradition" or "a permanent state of martial law". Intellectual Christopher Hitchens asserted Pakistan has been a fiefdom of the military for most of its short existence. As was once said of Prussia: Pakistan is not a country that has an army, but an army that has a country. Hitchens also said the country was doomed to be a dysfunctional military theocracy from day one - beginning with the very name of the country itself:
Pakistan deteriorated throughout the decades because of its focus on building the military and developing Islamic extremist groups to use as weapons in their eternal obsessive struggle against India. It's true the U.S. helped Pakistan build these groups since the beginning of the Cold War, but America learned on 9/11 they had created a Frankenstein monster that now needed to be slain.

Many analysts have suggested India is less of a national security threat to Pakistan than its homegrown terrorist groups, many of which have openly declared their mission to topple the state, which would allow jihadists to secure nuclear materials. Yet, based on its strategic decision to foster extremism and its recent public support for Taliban rule in Afghanistan, it appears the biggest existential threat to Pakistan is its own political and military leaders.
Since the war began in 2001 the U.S. has asked Pakistan to root out extremists from sanctuaries in a Rhode Island-sized area called North Waziristan, chief among them being the lethal Haqqani Network. However, Pakistan's army chief General Ashfaq Kayani asserted his forces were too bogged down fighting the Pakistani Taliban elsewhere in places like South Waziristan, Orakzai Agency and various districts across the NWFP.

I contacted an Afghan intelligence analyst about this and he assessed General Kayani's claim with one single word: rubbish. The Pakistan army consists of 500,000 active duty troops and another 500,000 on reserve. If Pakistan truly wanted to capture the Haqqani Network they would be able to drag them out of their caves by their beards within a few days.
However, there is a higher probability of General Kayani converting to Hinduism than there is of the Haqqani Network ever being decoupled from Al Qaeda.
:rotfl: Pukes ... You can't fool all the people all the time.

If this is the general thinking on Pukestan, when the NATO forces leave Afghanistan, Pukes will be squeezed like a like a lemon in a juicer.
In other words, the Haqqani Network is Al Qaeda. Does Obama and his cabinet know this and pretending not to know? Or they are being naive and stupid?

Pakistan has had a close relationship with the Haqqanis for over 30 years, who are still seen as a crucial anti-Indian asset. So, for nine years the Pakistanis protected the Haqqanis and claimed ignorance as to the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden and the Quetta Shura. Pakis must be singing Bakra Bakara Bakara song all the time they talk to the US
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Another hacking war in the offing Punjab Police website of Pakistan hacked by Indian hackers

LAHORE: According to sources, unknown hackers have hacked the official website of Punjab police on Friday. They have cleared up all the messages from chief minister and IG police Punjab.
After doing this heinous act, the hackers wrote down sentences in which they asked the Pakistani government to stop proxy war against India. This suggests that the hackers were from India; however, it is still not clear.

Pakistani officials have closed down the website after getting this news.
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Just who is not a Kafir?

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I was looking at this picture and it occured to me. TTP is not using AQ expertise to the fullest. They have to learn structural engineering so they demolish the entire structure by optimizing their soosai missions. Another sooosi-bummer and this kafir site could have been destroyed completely.

TTP is not only ineffective in head-count game (<100 kafirs per attack) but also in the structural arena. I strongly recommend opening structural engineering department in LMU. Pious abduls need to learn how to destroy a kafir structure completely.
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RamaY wrote: TTP is not only ineffective in head-count game (<100 kafirs per attack) but also in the structural arena. I strongly recommend opening structural engineering department in LMU. Pious abduls need to learn how to destroy a kafir structure completely.
It needs just a pick-axe to do the job.
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^

From the same link
A week before July 1, the TTP had sent a letter to the Data Ganj Baksh administration threatening to attack the shrine, claiming its status was equivalent to that of the Somnath temple in Gujarat, India. The symbolism inherent in the comparison wasn’t lost—the Somnath temple had been repeatedly raided by Sultan Mehmood Ghaznavi, ‘the idol destroyer’, who believed his marauding attacks would sap the fighting spirit of the Hindus. The attack on the Data Darbar was, similarly, aimed at demoralising the Barelvis, besides striking at the root of Lahore’s religious and cultural ethos. The Daily Times pointed out, “For 1,000 years, the city has been sustained by the cultural openness and tolerance that Data gave us. For 1,000 years, the shrine has fed Lahore’s hungry, clothed its naked and given shelter to the shelter-less. All that was brought to a halt when the night jackals in straitjackets struck like the cowards they are. Pakistan’s Islamic pluralism is now the target.”
Notice the selection of Amir Mir's words w.r.t Somnath and Data Darbar. He is trying to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.
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Renowned Islamic scholar Javed Ahmad Ghamidi, a member of the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII), which furnishes legal advice on Islamic issues to the Pakistan government, laments, “Labelling others infidel and kafir has become a preferred task of the mullahs. It’s clear that every sect considers others heretical, kafirs and dwellers of hell. Even verses of the Quran are wrongly used to disprove others’ faith and sects.”
Quran is word of Allah, so how can one use it "wrongly", even if they want?

Javed Ahmad Ghamidi is heretic and committing blasphemy by insulting holy Quran and Allah :eek:
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RamaY wrote:^

From the same link
A week before July 1, the TTP had sent a letter to the Data Ganj Baksh administration threatening to attack the shrine, claiming its status was equivalent to that of the Somnath temple in Gujarat, India. The symbolism inherent in the comparison wasn’t lost—the Somnath temple had been repeatedly raided by Sultan Mehmood Ghaznavi, ‘the idol destroyer’, who believed his marauding attacks would sap the fighting spirit of the Hindus. The attack on the Data Darbar was, similarly, aimed at demoralising the Barelvis, besides striking at the root of Lahore’s religious and cultural ethos. The Daily Times pointed out, “For 1,000 years, the city has been sustained by the cultural openness and tolerance that Data gave us. For 1,000 years, the shrine has fed Lahore’s hungry, clothed its naked and given shelter to the shelter-less. All that was brought to a halt when the night jackals in straitjackets struck like the cowards they are. Pakistan’s Islamic pluralism is now the target.”
Notice the selection of Amir Mir's words w.r.t Somnath and Data Darbar. He is trying to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds.
That is also a site for ancient temple - it they dig deep.
All of the worship place and all the holy land of the Hindus in Pakistan including Indus will be a Kaafir land for the Islamists.
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Did any one notice the sign of crusaders in the photo. The electric pole near the door is making Cross sign of Christians. No Muslim will ever leave such sign standing after bombing. This is clue to solving the sooside Bombling pointing to Kalapani and not ZamZamani.
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Although i would be surprised if this actually materializes,considering the current jokers in the Whitehouse,it probably wouldnt be a shocker either.
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Protest on Super Highway leads to traffic jam, robbery

KARACHI: Hundreds of people blocked the Karachi-Hyderabad Super Highway near Sohrab Goth protesting against load shedding, while robbers took advantage of the situation on Sunday.

Robbers took advantage of the traffic jam and deprived travelers of cash and jewelry.
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U.S Senator will push for the inclusion of Haqqani network on the US terrorist blacklist
A senior U.S. senator urged Pakistan on Sunday to crack down on the al-Qaida-linked Haqqani insurgent network, which operates on both sides of the country's border with Afghanistan.
Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said he does not think the Haqqani network will ever make peace and he vowed to push to include the group on the U.S. terrorist blacklist.
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A question to those familiar with the U.S political scene. How influential is this senator Carl Levin?
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r_subramanian wrote:U.S Senator will push for the inclusion of Haqqani network on the US terrorist blacklist
A senior U.S. senator urged Pakistan on Sunday to crack down on the al-Qaida-linked Haqqani insurgent network, which operates on both sides of the country's border with Afghanistan.
Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said he does not think the Haqqani network will ever make peace and he vowed to push to include the group on the U.S. terrorist blacklist.
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A question to those familiar with the U.S political scene. How influential is this senator Carl Levin?
He is the chairman of Armed Services committee from Michigan and senator for 31 years. Very liberal and big gun control proponent. Was also Democrats' ranking member on the committee since 1997.

coupled this news with the following news from HuffingtonPost, another Liberal news site, we can make few guesses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-h ... 35950.html.
Balkanizing Pakistan: A Collective National Security Strategy
n Institute for the Study of War analysis concluded that Haqqani was "irreconcilable" and negotiations with him would actually strengthen Al Qaeda and would undermine the raison d'etre for U.S. involvement in Afghanistan over the past decade.

In other words, the Haqqani Network is Al Qaeda.

Pakistan has had a close relationship with the Haqqanis for over 30 years, who are still seen as a crucial anti-Indian asset. So, for nine years the Pakistanis protected the Haqqanis and claimed ignorance as to the whereabouts of Mullah Omar, Osama bin Laden and the Quetta Shura. Nine years, nearly $300 billion dollars and 1900 dead coalition soldiers later, the U.S. has officially verified that the entire war effort has been focused on the wrong side of the mountains.
I think Democrats, especially the most Left wing, are tired of Pukestan's perfidy. They thought that if somehow they make India to give away Cashmere, all things will be alright and Pukes will stop terrorizing the west. But as they find more and more of human garbage called Pukestan and its army/ISI, they are learning what Bill Clinton learned after the first term. He did the same thing as Obama did first trying to support Pukes and after getting burned repeatedly by the beggars, arms/alms/aid seekers who are nothing but terrorists, blackmailers and Islamo fanatics. They gave them $7B aid and F-16s. As usual, Pukes have been plotting behind them killing CIA agents, attacking NATO forces, protecting/guiding terrorists like Haqqani.

We have to see how they will deal with them. Will they take them on? Or will they continue to be conned again and again?
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