Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2010

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Samay » 13 Jul 2010 13:49

RajeshA wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Thus, while the stakeholders raised the India-centric paranoia among the masses, they used that for their own ends knowing perfectly well that with enormous patience and a usually benign approach, not much harm would come their way. At the same time, their benefactors would bestow Pakistan with disproportionate dividends.


I will try a small perhaps coarse analogy:

Let's consider a department in some manufacturing company. The Muslim manager of the dept. doesn't really have any technical skills but uses his authoritative nature to get the work done by the Hindu employees. Because of their technical skills the company takes on more Hindu employees. Now the manager knows that sooner or later, his higher ups would find out about his lack of skills and would start putting the Hindus on the fast track to promotions.

So he is paranoid about getting a Hindu boss, who would be demanding, maybe just like him, and he would not be able to show any skills, making him lose his job.

As he finds out, that the company is thinking of some management level changes in the dept., he decides to leave the company and start his own venture. In the middle of the night, he even takes half the factory equipment and declares it stolen.

In his new small factory, he has all the equipment, has got some venture capital from some investors, whom he has promised a lot, but no Hindu workers to work on the equipment. Now he has existential angst. He knows that if his new venture fails, his factory will go broke, and it would be auctioned to pay for his debts; the same Hindu employees who worked under him, would buy up his little factory in an auction really cheap and he would end up on the street, broke and humiliated.

In the end he is really angry at losing his only source of income, his lordship over productive Hindu workers. He fears their capacity but claims his right to lord over them.

His anger, his hatred, his victimhood is his only way to square the circle.....


Great post Rajesh ji,. It explains most of the things about pakistan-military Inc.
In addition to this,

Another MNC would fund the muslim company to give local competition to the Hindu one, so that the hindu company doesnt grow as large to challenge it globally .

While on the other hand to stop its employee retrenchment and their general acceptance of a takeover by the Hindu company, the muslim manager tries to fill in hatred and motivation in them through the religious fanaticism,that his workers would like work for him even by eating grass.

Even if that doesnt work and the muslim company nears bankruptcy , Its foriegn investor bails it out, because helping it to survive wont cost as much as losing business to the rising Hindu MNC .
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby SSridhar » 13 Jul 2010 13:51

Pakistan is like Israel, says Ishtiaq Ahmed
Exclusive nationalism — whether based on race or religion or some other cultural factor — discriminates, constitutionally, people who do not qualify as members of the community because they do not share the specific cultural ties that have been chosen to define the nation, even if they live in the same territory. Israel is a case in point. Jews from anywhere in the world can come and settle in its territories but not Palestinians who may have lived there in 1948 or in 1967 or in 1973. Only Jews have a timeless law-of-return privileging them over the Palestinians.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Samay » 13 Jul 2010 14:11

Acharya wrote:Pak are talking in terms of its Ghazwai-e-Hind, the Prophet Mohammad's promised end-of-time battle for the conquest of India. They are going for the kill and they think that it is their destiny

Lets not underestimate the power of indoctrination. The Quran/hadith have indoctrinating power, muslim politicians all over the world use them to twist and turn the meaning of these verses for their suitability ,for example if it is assumed that some verse sounds similar to a recent scientific finding , and some more verses could be twisted to prove something ,then it surely means Ghazwa e hind is also true . Thats a kind of logic they follow. Again few clever fox use it ar paranoiac level ( ex ZZH)

Indoctrination uses hypothetical punishments afterlife or physical punishments in a madrassa if the meaning and correctness of the verses are ever questioned . So their minds are tuned to believe whatever is written ( though this is a part of the problem in our education system as well) , believing that ghazwa -e-hind will happen since it is written in quran that a meteorite hit the earth thousands of years ago ,is what they think is logical. (madrassa logic in BRF terms)
If we go by the method of attacks on India, their attack is always aimed at invading India in parts, .so first target was kashmir . while on the other hand their foriegn investor tells them to do something new ,as the previous method is not feasible ..so the story of a Democratic power and a lunatic goes on,where the lunatic thinks he will win because, he is from mars as mars is mentioned in quran ..


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Samay » 13 Jul 2010 15:15

Indoctrination in syllabus
A good read. Most of the text is reproduced deaf and dumb forum .

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby shiv » 13 Jul 2010 15:58

Samay wrote:Indoctrination in syllabus
A good read. Most of the text is reproduced deaf and dumb forum .


Saar - this document has been linked from the first post of every Pakistan thread for 5 years at least! :eek:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Samay » 13 Jul 2010 16:21

Then TSP thread should be linked as an external source of information on pakistan in CBSE syllabus,IMHO :wink:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby menon s » 13 Jul 2010 16:36



i think this article is very important. if Pakthoon nationalism and Taliban mix, then, we can say goodbye to NWFP, and the whole of the Durand line. Too good to be true. But then, it is meant only as warning.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Rishi » 13 Jul 2010 16:45

menon s wrote:


i think this article is very important. if Pakthoon nationalism and Taliban mix, then, we can say goodbye to NWFP, and the whole of the Durand line. Too good to be true. But then, it is meant only as warning.


Blackwill's original article:

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm? ... 66E50DFB3A

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby anchal » 13 Jul 2010 17:13

What is cooking with Krishna visit?

http://sify.com/news/good-news-likely-soon-for-people-of-india-and-pakistan-claims-malik-news-international-khnmugjigbe.html

"Pakistan, India have prepared a roadmap, and in the coming weeks the people would hear good news, though at this point of time we have agreed not to disclose details of that roadmap and the planning being done to jointly fight out terrorism," Malik said.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Philip » 13 Jul 2010 17:31

"The moving finger writes and having writ moved on..."
So did Omar Khayyam write and the writing is on the wall for the failed Islamic state of Pak.Pak has degenerated from being an "Islamic" state into an "Islamist" state.This beggars another important question.Where is "Islamist" society heading? If jihad and warring with infidels is all that this bast***ised version of the religon can offer,then it is doomed.Islamist states are doomed and even this version of Islam is also doomed,judging from the newfound resistance in "Christian" Europe to the swell of Islamic extremists in their midst.The burqa ban and minaret ban shows that the "Christians" have had enough and are girding their loins.If there is no tolerance either from the religion or from Islamist states such as Pak-and Pak shows absolutely no tolerance for its own minorities,by such states, then they invite conflict and an inevitable downfall,whatever N-weapons they possess regardless.

Balckwill is way off target however.He has also missed the plot.He should send the USAF's B-52s to blitz Islamabad instead of the Pashtun areas straddling the Durand Line.The Paki military have to be starved of both military and economic aid,brought down to their knees and beg for mercy and abandon their terrorist ways by force,or be strangled and later dismembered.A Paki military reeling from both financial and military paucity cannot expect China and the Saudis to bail them out completely.The US has enough firepower to deal with the Pakis.A naval blockade of Pak to stop supporting the Taliban is the fastest way in which to castrate the state of Pak. If the US truly wants to end the Afghan imbroglio,which has gone on for far longer than WW2 and Vietnam,which is eating into its own health like a marauding cancer,then it has to strike at the root of the problem,Islamabad.

PS:As for our mandarins of the MEA and our For.Min. regarding dealing with Pak,they are like the proverbial "blind men in a dark room with the lights switched off,looking for the black cat that isn't there!"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Gagan » 13 Jul 2010 20:30

Philip wrote:A naval blockade of Pak to stop supporting the Taliban is the fastest way in which to castrate the state of Pak. If the US truly wants to end the Afghan imbroglio,which has gone on for far longer than WW2 and Vietnam

Sir,
If I may offer my two paise's worth.

The key is not to use the fastest way to castrate Pakistan, but to use the Safest way.

The process has to be managed in stages, spread out over a period of time, so that each stage and its blowback is suitably controlled. There are several reasons for this some of which I outline below:
1. Pakistan is not a small nation. At last count it was still the 7th most populous. Here I am not accounting for the fissures that run rather deep within that nation, but what I want to stress is that you can't one fine day blockade and starve 170 million people. Any sudden drastic move and India will end up with 50 million odd refugees on our border.

2. The nukes and more importantly the technology to manufacture nukes and the ability to spread that knowhow. Any military intervention and the Pakistan military will hand over the nukes to its punjabi terror boys or the taliban-AQAM for a JDAM. Who knows, the pakistanis already have something stashed away abroad and are using that as an insurance policy. One must not needlessly agitate the beast, remember we live next doors, and our house is starting to shine.
I believe that the US has some level of control over Pakistan's nuclear weapons. They might have shut down the uranium enrichment program, and pakistan's nuclear scientists and labs are probably under tight watch. Their weapons, storage sites, missile sites, airforce assets are under watch / joint control.

3. Pakistanis and their Jihad loving ways. So dark is the indoctrination that Zia-ul-haq unleashed there, that two whole generations have now grown up believing in the poison that the school education system, madarsas, sermons, general discourse in the society reinforce on a daily basis. All this has to be rolled back, so that the newer generation can learn more tolerant ways. Meanwhile the existing radicalized population needs to be 'encouraged' to recognize that jihad in the form of murder and mayhem is bad for everyone, and needs to be brought to an end.
There is no alternative to reforming the pakistanis, specially since genocide is not an option on the table for the world. Eventually whatever happens to Pakistan, its people have to be rid of their terror loving ways. This includes the military and its penchant for using jihadis and terrorists as tools of the state.
One way this can be achieved, that I think is happening now, is that everyone is standing back and watching pakistan slowy burn in the fire that its military had planned to unleash on the world. Once this is over, the people of the land of the pure, will be much more peaceful, more tolerant, and more willing to be hardworking citizens of the world. Who knows they might themselves come to the conclusion that Pakistan is an experiment that's failed miserably and choose to end it themselves.

4. Meanwhile from India's and the rest of the world's POV - who has the time to invest extra money and resources and attention to pakistanis purifying and killing pakistanis? Each nation is engaged in a dog eat dog struggle to develop itself economically, to uplift its poor etc. Is there a shortage of issues that each nation and the world at large is bestowed with now, to give undue attention to Pakistan and pakistanis? For pakistan's 4 neighbours, they will need to keep checking on pakistan from time to time, and there is little alternative otherwise, but pakistan and pakistanis have ensured through their actions that each nation of the world now keeps a wary watch on pakistan and pakistanis.

5. Economic blockade and sanctions are not quite as effective as they seem. They are intended to hurt the elite of the country and make the common citizens rise up in revolt. In the short and medium term, the effect is the exact opposite. The elite and the power brokers ride it out, the common public unite and get a mission in addition to fighting for the basic necessities. No wonder then, this is the strategy of last resort. In Pakistan's case, the elite and the power brokers are selling the country down the river - they are collecting the bounty and allowing access at every level, AND they are not taking the steps needed to solve the problems that they have. IOW Pakistan is headed for doom, and its own elite are the brokers of the catastrophe that awaits them.

Earlier it was Pakistan's 4 neighbours who had to watch out for Pakistan. Pakistan and Pakistanis' actions have ensured that each country in the world keeps a close watch on pakistan and pakistanis.

In the current world order, each country is engaged in a dog eat dog contest to develop itself, uplift its poor, get more economically sound. Who has the time to bother about Pakistan and its chronic problems and complaints? There is a certain impatience that is building up the world over with Pakistan and its behaviour. The greatest danger for Pakistan is that the world gets fed up of its antics and decides to abandon it to its jihadis.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby CRamS » 13 Jul 2010 20:49

anchal wrote:What is cooking with Krishna visit?

http://sify.com/news/good-news-likely-soon-for-people-of-india-and-pakistan-claims-malik-news-international-khnmugjigbe.html

"Pakistan, India have prepared a roadmap, and in the coming weeks the people would hear good news, though at this point of time we have agreed not to disclose details of that roadmap and the planning being done to jointly fight out terrorism," Malik said.



Probably another one of those equal equal formulations that will buy MMS some political cover trhat he has not diluted India's stand on terrorism, but at the same time moving ahead with his pet them of bhai chara with TSP ignoring terrorism.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby ramana » 13 Jul 2010 23:00

I think SMK visit will be damp squib just as PC's visit was.
If the US is creating a sub-TSP command under Af-Pak command led by Peteraus it clearly shows whats happening. TSP is in jepoardy.

The idea of Pashtun nationalism and Taliban was first discussed in BRF in the Pashtun Civil war thread atleast three years ago.

There is no question of if they both will merge. In fact they are the same.
The unknown is if the Ghilzai will retain the Taliban leadership or share with the Popalzai. If the later happens then forget the Durand Line. However I don't know if the Ghilzai will share the power because of the TSP kool aid they are imbibing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Gagan » 13 Jul 2010 23:07

SM Krishna's visit is going to be a uber damp squib.

The pakjabis are going to have fun with him.
India is going to do chai-biskoot and quietly smile.

Let the pretence of the ocean surface being calm prevail. There is going to be no new news coming up on the terrorism front, except Rehman Malik repeating ad-nauseum what he always says.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby MurthyB » 14 Jul 2010 01:07

Harbansji, thank you!

This also brings up my century of posts here after a mere 8+ years. :mrgreen:

harbans wrote:Murthy ji, good analysis of Jinnahs 'Freedom day speech'. Very well and correctly analysed. Never realized it, but makes it clear that conditions were attached specially when wrt being loyal to an Islamic state as opposed to a secular one. Thank you for the perspective and intend using it elsewhere :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Jul 2010 01:09

the talks are to keep the ring in place, unkil can say, look we made them talk, the paquis can say ha ha we got the banias to talk inspite of... and we can say, we are better than them and we are talking

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Prem » 14 Jul 2010 01:34

If Poaks are hooked on Ghazwa E Hind then why did they and their God did not avail the oppertunity in 47 by not running away from Punjab . Was the blade too sharp in East Punjab or Indic God too strong ? They should stick to Bujjwa-o-Behind as happening since 47 in service to 3.5 Auliyas.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Gagan » 14 Jul 2010 01:50

The only Gazwa that the pakistanis are doing is Ghazwa on the hind end of each other.

There is not going to be another Ghazwa-e-hind for these losers.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby RajeshA » 14 Jul 2010 01:58

Not only Pakis, but I too just love Ghazwa ka Halwa!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Nayak » 14 Jul 2010 02:05

talking to pakis is like watching reruns of either groundhog day or some national award winning malayalam movie on monsoons.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Gagan » 14 Jul 2010 02:13

Oh come come! This pakistan visit is a sign of 'coming of age' for our dear Ext Affairs minister.
There he will undoubtedly indulge in parleys that will be ground breaking but also improve the stock value of the Tea and biscuit manufacturing companies.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby RamaY » 14 Jul 2010 03:02

Boy drinks water at mosque, Pak Hindus attacked
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/boy-drinks-w ... ml?from=tn

slamabad: Several Hindus were attacked and forced out of their homes in Pakistan's southern Sindh province after a boy of the community drank water from a cooler outside a mosque.

About 60 Hindu men, women and children were recently forced to abandon their homes at Memon Goth in Karachi, the capital of Sindh, after influential tribesmen of the area objected to the boy drinking water.

"All hell broke loose when my son, Dinesh drank water from a cooler outside a mosque. Upon seeing him do that, the people of the area started beating him up," a Hindu man named Meerumal told The News daily.

"Later, around 150 tribesmen attacked us, injuring seven of our people who were taken to the Jinnah Hospital," he said.

The Hindus have taken refuge in a cattle pen but now about 400 Hindu families have been warned that they must leave the area. "Our people are even scared of going out of their houses. We are also putting up with living in the filthy cattle pen because we cannot go home for fear of being killed," said Heera, who was injured in the attack by tribesmen.

"A trivial incident led to riots between the people in the area. As both communities happened to be illiterate, the matter just flared up," said the chief of Memon Goth police station.

However, the police officer dismissed claims that the Hindus in the area didn’t have security and insisted the minority community could go back to their homes any time they wanted.

Sindh's Minority Affairs Minister Mohan Lal has assured the Hindu community that it will receive full government protection.

"I have directed the police to ensure that these people go back to their houses safely," he said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Prem » 14 Jul 2010 03:58

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/39662.html
Carl Levin backs strikes inside Pakistan
A leading Democrat said the U.S. should be more aggressive in conducting airstrikes against groups inside Pakistan that threaten the mission in neighboring Afghanistan. Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, told reporters Tuesday morning that the U.S. should go after groups like the Haqqani network that "directly threaten" the mission in Afghanistan. Levin returned Monday evening from a trip to Afghanistan and Pakistan .
"We know where they are, we know where their headquarters is, and the same thing with the Quetta Shura," Levin told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. "I don't think they should be off-limits to those strikes — they directly threaten the Afghan mission." Groups like the Haqqani network and the Quetta Shurah, both based in Pakistan, have long frustrated efforts to bring peace and stability to Afghanistan. American airstrikes, often conducted by drones, are typically performed by the CIA. But they usually engender anti-American sentiments, even if many Pakistani leaders believe the airstrikes are helping Pakistan in its own fight against militancy

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Prem » 14 Jul 2010 04:00

Pakistan Embassy Denies Harboring AWOL Iran Nuke Scientist
Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07 ... z0tbbyLQxG

As if the story of Iranian nuclear scientist Shahram Amiri wasn’t weird and complicated enough. Both the Pakistani and Iranian governments claimed this morning he’s taken refuge in Pakistani’s Washington embassy and is trying to get home. But a spokesperson at the Pakistani embassy flatly denies to Danger Room that Amiri is there.Amiri, you may recall, was abducted by U.S. spies last year during a trip to Mecca (at least, according to Tehran). Or perhaps he defected, and is now studying for his Ph.D. of his own free will in the States (according to American press accounts). Last month, a pair of videos surfaces supporting both versions of Amiri’s tale.The embassy is a pretty ideal location for intelligence-borne intrigue. It’s tucked away in a tony, bucolic area behind the University of the District of Columbia off of Connecticut Avenue NW. After Washington and Tehran severed ties following the 1979 revolution and hostage crisis, the embassy maintains a section representing Iran’s interests, so it’s a logical place for an allegedly-kidnapped Iranian to

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Kanan » 14 Jul 2010 04:38

Pakistan is one of the most sophisticated societies in the world! Their education is envied throughout the world:

[color=#00FF00]JEE: Jihad Entrance Examination

CAT: Career in Al-Qaeda Test

M.B.B.S: Master of Bomb Blasting Services

PIT: Pakistan Institute of Terrorism

B.A/M.A: Bachelor/Master of Al-Qaeda

M.S: Master of Stoning (recently demonstrated in Kashmir)
[/color]

And you know what, they are masters of all that is clandestine! read N.Kore, Iran etc............

High time the U.S. invaded the pakistan: the land of fanatics , maniacs and TERRORISTS!
And high time they changed their name to TERRORISTAN! :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Ambar » 14 Jul 2010 05:27

You gotta love the audacity of these ******!

ISLAMABAD: The government asked India on Tuesday to send to Pakistan the police officials and magistrate who had recorded the statement of Mumbai attacks accused Ajmal Amir Kasab to testify his statement.

According to sources, the request was made during a meeting between Interior Minister Rehman Malik and Indian High Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal.

Talking to journalists after the meeting, the minister said the FIR against Kasab had been registered on the basis of his reported statement given in India and under the law he was required to be presented before the court.

“As the Indian government had already turned down a request by Islamabad to send Kasab to Pakistan, therefore, it has again been requested to send the magistrate concerned and the police officials who had recorded the statement,” the minister said.

He said if the Indian magistrate and policeman did not appear before the court it might declare Kasab a proclaimed offender.

The minister informed the media he had received a letter from his Indian counterpart P. Chidambaram reiterating the resolve to jointly tackle terrorism. “Progress is under way on agreed points between the two countries regarding maintaining regional peace and stability and joint steps against terrorism,” he said.

The meeting was also attended by Interior Secretary Qamar Zaman Chaudhry.

The minister said people of Pakistan and India would soon hear “good news” as the countries had chalked out a roadmap to address all contentious issues.

“Pakistan and India have prepared a roadmap and in the coming weeks people will hear good news, though at this point we have agreed not to disclose details of the roadmap and the planning being done to jointly fight terrorism,” Mr Malik said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Gagan » 14 Jul 2010 07:11

Do a video conferencing for the testimony.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby pratik » 14 Jul 2010 07:37

Gagan: The only Gazwa that the pakistanis are doing is Ghazwa on the hind end of each other.

There is not going to be another Ghazwa-e-hind for these losers.


I read GAZWA-E-HIND in Gujarati way...

GAJWA in gujrati means pocket in your shirt/trouser.

So now the true meaning of pakistani term GAZWA-E-HIND means.. "India''s pocket". TSP is really after our money/economy. So keep an eye on our pocket.

They do not have any courage left to fight face-to-face all out war.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby abhishek_sharma » 14 Jul 2010 08:09

U.S. May Label Pakistan Militants as Terrorists

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/world/asia/14diplo.html

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Vikas » 14 Jul 2010 10:02

RamaY wrote:Boy drinks water at mosque, Pak Hindus attacked
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/boy-drinks-w ... ml?from=tn

slamabad: Several Hindus were attacked and forced out of their homes in Pakistan's southern Sindh province after a boy of the community drank water from a cooler outside a mosque.
However, the police officer dismissed claims that the Hindus in the area didn’t have security and insisted the minority community could go back to their homes any time they wanted.
Sindh's Minority Affairs Minister Mohan Lal has assured the Hindu community that it will receive full government protection.

"I have directed the police to ensure that these people go back to their houses safely," he said.

And don't posters on BRF and other forums keep talking about Sufi and pissful nature of Sindhi Muslims all the time and how they can be integrated back into India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby derkonig » 14 Jul 2010 10:16

^^^
Yep delusions galore on this forum as well. Those who left dharma to worship evil are truly lost. Only the total extermination of these spiritually lost people will ensure peace in the Indic lands.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby CRamS » 14 Jul 2010 10:54

abhishek_sharma wrote:U.S. May Label Pakistan Militants as Terrorists

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/14/world/asia/14diplo.html


I was laughing my butt of reading the headline wondering what it means, but the real consequence of such a decision is not this


Placement on the State Department’s list would mainly impose legal limits on American citizens and companies, prohibiting trade with the Haqqani network or its leaders and requiring that banks freeze their assets in the United States.



But


But Mr. Levin noted that the law would also require the United States government to apply pressure on any nation harboring such a group, in this case Pakistan.



So if indeed US takes this step, what happens to the KL bill, and other goodies that US is doling out on TSP?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby satyam » 14 Jul 2010 11:01

Ban says findings of Bhutto commission final

http://www.business-standard.com/india/ ... /101309/on

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby derkonig » 14 Jul 2010 11:36

But didn't President Hussain forbid using terms like terrorist, extremists, etc.?



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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby rajkhalsa » 14 Jul 2010 12:38

No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it P0rnistan
By Kelli Morgan
Published July 13, 2010
| FoxNews.com

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They may call it the "Land of the Pure," but Pakistan turns out to be anything but.

The Muslim country, which has banned content on at least 17 websites to block offensive and blasphemous material, is the world's leader in online searches for p0rnographic material, FoxNews.com has learned.

“You won’t find strip clubs in Islamic countries. Most Islamic countries have certain dress codes,” said Gabriel Said Reynolds, professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Notre Dame. “It would be an irony if they haven’t shown the same vigilance to p0rnography.”

So here's the irony: Google ranks Pakistan No. 1 in the world in searches for p0rnographic terms, outranking every other country in the world in searches per person for certain sex-related content.

Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for "horse sex" since 2004, "donkey sex" since 2007, "rape pictures" between 2004 and 2009, "rape sex" since 2004, "child sex" between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, "animal sex" since 2004 and "dog sex" since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.

The country also is tops -- or has been No. 1 -- in searches for "sex," "camel sex," "rape video," "child sex video" and some other searches that can't be printed here.


Google Trends generates data of popular search terms in geographic locations during specific time frames. Google Insights is a more advanced version that allows users to filter a search to geographic locations, time frames and the nature of a search, including web, images, products and news.

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The Embassy of Islamic Republic of Pakistan did not reply to a request for an interview.

In addition to banning content on 17 websites, including islamexposed.blogspot.com, Pakistan is monitoring seven other sites -- Google, Yahoo, Bing, YouTube, Amazon, MSN and Hotmail -- for anti-Islamic content, the Associated Press reported in June.

But it’s not to censor the Pakistani people, Reynolds said. It’s to shut out the rest of the world.

“[It] could lead to conversion, which would undermine the very order of the state,” he said. “Part of protecting the society is making sure that there is no way it could be undermined in terms of foreign influences.”

Pakistan temporarily banned Facebook in May when Muslim groups protested the “Everybody Draw Muhammad Day” page, where users were encouraged to upload pictures of the Prophet Muhammad. The page remains on Facebook, but Pakistani users are unable to view it, said Andrew Noyes, manager of Facebook’s Public Policy Communication.

And while Pakistan is taking measures to prevent blasphemous material from being viewed by its citizens, p0rnographic material is “certainly” contradictory to Islam, too, Reynolds said.

The country’s punishment for those charged with blasphemy is execution, but the question remains what -- if anything -- can be done about people who search for p0rn on the Web.

“It’s a new phenomenon,” Reynolds said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Stan_Savljevic » 14 Jul 2010 12:59


Why is ashburn, va in the top-10 list?!

PS: seems like verizon may be routing all search queries to its HQ in ashburn. Otherwise I cant see a logical reason why it should be no. 9.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): July 07, 2

Postby Singha » 14 Jul 2010 13:06

the data for kolkata indicates the bongal breaper runs 24x7 patrols over the killing fields *shudder* (darts back into cave)


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