The swedish datalink is increasing gripen's capability manifold and it is a very mature and proven system. The SwAF tactics is (and have been since the Draken fighter) centered around the datalink. As I have described earlier the TIDSL capability together with gripen is quite remarcable. It would be foolish not to consider ToT or exploit this capability if gripen is selected. As I see it this is one of the greatest "ups" of gripen.
ofc it is good. i never said otherwise. however to think this datalink is unmatched and has no parallel is strethcing it.
BTW here (a slightly old report) is an example of Rafale's datalink ability -http://www.armees.com/Tir-MICA-depuis-u ... 22155.html
take it fwiw.
When I am discussing datalinks you are questioning me... If I would have discussed radar/AESA - it would never be questioned.
what did i question?? i was speaking of a larger picture of net-centricity/situational awareness and you came back saying Gripen has it and gave the swedish example which has no relevance for us!!!
Doesn't it matter what type of radar that comes with the a/c - Of course it does. One thing about the TIDSL is that it is increasing the capability of the radar (and other sensors like IRST), because several radars can work as a unit. Both A2A and A2G capability is increased.
no disagreement but even if you replace TIDSL with Datalink 2(if it is qualified and i assume yes because it goes on our P-8Is) or any other datalink, you get a similar picture because datalink is a communication suite.
the more important point here is 'sensor fusion' and most modern aircrafts are sensor fused including LCA (read B Harry's "radiance of tejas" article on BR) and the datalink helps in radar/irst/flir data transfer from one aircrfat to the other aircrafts but this data only provides, let me say - 'local situational awareness' but with net centricity the picture becomes bigger and clearer as the relevant data fused from multiple air/ground assets are datalinked to the aircrafts.
At least one concern that seems to be of importance is that the different contenders have different capabilities regarding datalinking. One obvius fact to regard is that RAFALE will cary an inferior METEOR. So it's BVR capability will in the future be decreased.
you are taking the wiki article as an authentic source which better be avoided. as for the Meteor itself questions regarding true operationalisation, capabilities remain as it is still in development. when you can get proven AMRAAMs and reliable MICAs/python 5s at a much lesser cost why would anybody bother Meteor?? even Mirage 2000 upgrade package has MICA component. besides we have our own ASTRA programme which had captive trials and should be coming to the fore in some time.
to say Rafale can only fire an inferior Meteor is also false. only it gets later than Gripen - links of which i have passed on before.
I can not say how IAF will act if they select gripen as the MMRCA. Maybe they will find this technology usefull and integrate the swedish TIDSL into Indian IACCS, or maybe they will let the two systems operate side by side.
possible if they select Gripen but to integrate it into the IACCS they would need source codes i guess.
Or as you say they will go 100% for IACCS, but that would be stupid if it is not as good as TIDSL. If India will go 100% on IACCS then I beleive that talk about the TIDSL does not belong in the mmrca discussion. Do you have any source of how they are thinking/planning?
100% of what?? i think you are unclear. IACCS/AFNET is what one means by net centric capability and what it can do is presenting a larger picture of tactical situation across the spectrum of the battle. you can pass the relevant info to the relevant platforms so that they can take an advantageous position to dictate the battle. now wrt datalinks, american aircraft means IMO signing of CISMOA which india will not accede to and hence either indian Datalink 2(as the navy has done with P-8Is) or some other datalink irrespective of which needs to be integrated into the IACCS/AFNET. if it happens to be Gripen NG then TIDSL will be integrated.
hope that clears.
If TIDSL tech is integrated succesfully into the Indian system (at least all future) IAF a/c will get quite a significant increase in capability.
again as i said TIDSL is no doubt good but that won't be the only factor to decide a platform because all modern ODLs will do a similar job. even here 'if' TIDSL is slightly better than the rest, the point is it does not bring a capability which is a game changer.
It doesn't say much about the capability. Will it be as capable as TIDSL? What type of system is it? Sounds like it is a "many users - low bandwidth - high latency" like the Link-16.
IACCS is a system where in you get the complete picture of the battle in your control room so that the relevant info can be datalinked to the concerned to get tactical advantage and this would be similar to any similar system in place elsewhere. A datalink on the other hand is a communication suite on platforms to communicate with this system/other datalinked aircrafts.
Can it communicate directly between a/c? Is satellites the only way? (Seems a bit stupid when China have the tech to shoot down satellites)
i don't think any pragmatic thinking force will keep it only 'one way' via the satellite. there would definitely a backup and i would safely assume - that this is factored in so in the event of satellite being taken down it will still be operational because the ground nodes will continue to get the signals, albeit less capable. this can be surmised from the fact that they (IAF) laid fibre optic cables across the country to get the AFNET grid on.
besides it is not easy to take down a satellite because that can be replicated by us too. you must have heard the drdo chief saying all systems are in place though they don't want to test it now (read GOI).