Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2010

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Dec 2010 15:20

man, I'm totally buzzed!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby jerry » 14 Dec 2010 15:22

The Paki Amby to the US is going to be appointed US Amby to solve the AF-Pak problem? Boss some real potent stuff is creating the buzz. I suggest you forget about Haqqani and instead try to find that stuff and share the joy with your fellow BRFites! :)


On second thoughts got carried away with "that potent stuff Boss" mods please
delete that if the the news is not confirmed.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby amit » 14 Dec 2010 15:23

Lalmohan wrote:man, I'm totally buzzed!


Which means, Lal Mullah, you've found the source of the buzz. Please share!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Dec 2010 15:25

like most things paqui related - hashish inspired dreams of the mountain fastness of the assassins, of fragrant gardens and 72 lalchix +28 whiteghagras and the qualification rounds with 100 goats until i have proven my worth to part the seven veils... real buzz

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby amit » 14 Dec 2010 15:34

Lalmohan wrote:like most things paqui related - hashish inspired dreams of the mountain fastness of the assassins, of fragrant gardens and 72 lalchix +28 whiteghagras and the qualification rounds with 100 goats until i have proven my worth to part the seven veils... real buzz


:rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby vina » 14 Dec 2010 15:56



I ran in to an IT/Vity Jarnail who happened to part of the delegation. Evidently, it was "high powered" from the CII side with even big names like Khoob Peeta Maara Gadha, Instant Banana Mousse, Ass Enter, Most Admired Company and some chut-mut small timers whose names you wouldnt know.

When I met the Jarnail and he told me he had just got back from Pakistan, I said , you what ? I was really curious. I asked the Jarnail about it.

Evidently , the security was unbelievable . They had armed escorts everywhere, they traveled in police led convoys with only two passengers per car, the traffic was stopped for them , streets cordoned off and the Jarnail told me now he knew how the politicos felt when the traffic was stopped for them here. In fact, if they went shopping or something, the security folks used to go inside the shop, clear out all the shoppers and they had the shop exclusively to themselves! I can understand where the Pakistanis were coming from. The last thing they would need is some untoward incident happening to the CII delegation.

From what the IT/Vity Jarnail said, Paki land seems to be a really troubled state. Yeah, he did say that Karachi looked a lot like Bombay and Lahore a lot like Delhi ..(take that you Dilli Billis, you are twinned with that !.. ha. haa). The folks whom they interacted with seemed very distressed about the "Image" of Pakistan and kept insisting that they are "normal" folks and shouldn't be brushed with too wide a brush and that they are "normal" people etc.. The Pakistanis came out and said, there are some 400K graduates per year who like Enqyoob-Ud-Din al-Gas Turbiney would say, dont want 400% to stay in Pakistan at all.

There are no jobs, no future, no nothing and everyone who can wants to bail out. And of course like the true Paki Baksheesh is my birthright and I shall have it ..and err. give me baksheesh or I hold my breath and die , or better still shoot ourselves, please help economically or all that 400K graduates will 400% become terrorists onree.

I really dont know what to make out the Industry RAPES whom the delegation met. Maybe they were being true RAPES after all and seemed to be in some desperation now that the Kaneda, USA, Britainistan and general vilayat door is slammed shut on Pakis of all stripes, RAPES or not. Still no sign of actually taking on the Sekoority /Khaki types and making them see reality, at least as far as from what I could make out.

There is deep khujli/envy/admiration/whatever for IT/Vity, Healthcare, Auto, industry and general growth in India from the other side. Dont know, what will come out of all this. But alteast if some sane civilized Pakis (I know that it is largely an oxymoron, but one does need to hope against hope) start thinking differently and start a rethink on what kind of hell hole that country is in and how close it is to the Afghanistan like hell hole it is set to become, there might be a glimmer ,however faint somewhere.

All said and done, the "IT" image of Pakistan (as we know at BRF ) and the BENIS dhaaga descriptions seem to have the Paki RAPES and other elites really really bothered. It is bad for business after all and affects mobility and maybe that was the reason why even The Gola tried En-Mo and BoshitiveNeuj of Pakistan kind of image building exercise.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Dec 2010 16:43

the paquis see their distress as a need to lash out at others, not at self improvement

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby SSridhar » 14 Dec 2010 16:48

vina wrote:There is deep khujli/envy/admiration/whatever for IT/Vity, Healthcare, Auto, industry and general growth in India from the other side. Dont know, what will come out of all this.

Vina, thanks for the update. What will come out of this, did you ask ? Why, more terrorism. In the same vein as Lalu told his Japanese friends how he could quickly bring Japan to the levels of Bihar if only given an opportunity !

A few years back, I had to spend a few days in an in-company meeting with two Heads of Business Units of the Pakistani operations of the MNC mentioned in the report I posted. One was a blue-blooded Lahori Pakistani and the other was a Bangalorean whose family had migrated to Pakistan when he was about 10 years or so old. As we got to talk, the Lahorean began to ask questions about Indian economy, growth, IT industry etc. After hearing me, he started saying that in spite of all that, there was utter poverty, roads were non-existent, illiteracy was high etc. in India. Before I could answer, the Bangalore-migrant gave him back in good measure. I didn't have to say anything at all. Truly, my sense of the muhajir was that he disliked the decision made by his parents decades back. Of course, he was not a muhajir from the Ganga-Yamuna belt and so was not probably ideologically so committed.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Arjun » 14 Dec 2010 17:05

Here's another report on the same from the TOI, India-Pak-IT-CEOs-seek-increased-collaboration with the following awesome language...

The declaration noted that Pakistan's significant product ecosystem combined with India's world class companies can become a global best offering solutions to the world.

If this was a declaration that Ganesh Natarajan and other Indian CEOs actually agreed to, I must say it puts into question their IQ...Note the claim on Pakistan having a better software product ecosystem...for the uninitiated, software products are considered higher up the value chain than the services side.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby anupmisra » 14 Dec 2010 17:30

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan's IT industry, once again
Pakistani partners take on financial risk and provide for infrastructure, while the Indian IT companies can provide intellectual capital, training and client relationship; India can share its best practices and assist in curriculum development;


Points to note Sridhar: the shameless pakis keep harping on their "$2.0 Bn IT industry", a number which is full of assumptions, conjectures, what-ifs, lets-supposes, and hallucinogenically induced wet dreams. But what needs to be pointed from above paki proposal is the following demands that border on asking India to commit hara-kiri:

1. In an ideal Indo-pak collaboration, per the purelanders, the Pakis will take on the "financial" and "infrastructural" risks. Ha!! What irony!!
2. India opens up its rolodex of clients to the pakis and trains the intellectually-challenged paki IT workers so that they can and will steal jobs and clients away from the Indian IT companies in the future.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby SSridhar » 14 Dec 2010 17:36

anupmisra wrote:Points to note Sridhar: the shameless pakis keep harping on their "$2.0 Bn IT industry", a number which is full of assumptions, conjectures, what-ifs, lets-supposes, and hallucinogenically induced wet dreams.

Yeah, true. We have discussed in this very thread several years back their funny assumptions, Lahori logic etc as to why every dollar of revenue must be multiplied by 4 etc. etc.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby SSridhar » 14 Dec 2010 17:40

Ouch, this should hurt.

Afghanistan dares Pakistan for a re-match
Afghanistan coach Rashid Latif is furious after allegations that the Twenty20 match between Pakistan and his wards in the Guangzhou Asian Games was fixed and has openly challenged them for a re-match.

Rashid, a former Pakistan captain and now coach of the Afghanistan cricket team, said that his players’ win over their much-fancied opponents in the semifinals of the T20 cricket competition in last month’s Asian Games was not a fluke.

“My challenge is we will beat the same Pakistan team again. All this talk about the match being fixed is degrading for the hard working Afghan players,” he said.

Since Pakistan lost at the hands of newcomers Afghanistan in the last four of the Asian Games, there has been speculation in the Pakistan media that the match was fixed.

“Nothing could be further from the truth. Anyone can say what they like. I can only say I challenge them for a rematch at any venue and I know for certain we will beat them again by a bigger margin this time,” Rashid said. :)

He said the Afghanistan team could even pose a hard time to the Pakistani national team as they play with lot of passion and pride on the ground. “Something that is lacking in this Pakistan team right now,” he stated.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby JE Menon » 14 Dec 2010 17:48

Sh1t, I thought Haqqani was really removed :( ... this would be something significant at this point!!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby rohiths » 14 Dec 2010 17:51

Due to constant programming by DDM, WKKs and western media, there is a strong acceptance of equal-equal by many Indians. Many ITvity people although technically brilliant lack even the basic knowledge about India, Pakistan and the associated history and culture.
Lot of people genuinely believe that India-Pak hatred is due to mutual misunderstanding and all the aman-ki-tamasha stuff.
The need of the hour is to have a nationalist media channel. With the current crop of leftist DDM I think there is ample space for a nationalist media.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 14 Dec 2010 18:34

http://www.zeenews.com/news674355.html
New Delhi: The Pakistani Army, on Monday, made an unusual entry on its website, listing an ISI agent who died in a “suicide attack” operation in New Delhi as a “martyr”, a newspaper reported on Tuesday.

According to the entry that appeared on the website yesterday, ISI operative Zulfiqar Ahmed died in a New Delhi hospital on November 16, 2007.

The listing was made in the ‘Shuhada’s (Martyrs’) Corner’ of the Pakistani Army website. The names of Pakistan’s dead in the Kargil War are also listed in the same section.

Reacting to the development, Army Chief General VK Singh said the revelation lays bare the Pakistani Army’s “mindset”.

“It also shows to what extent they are ready to go,” he told reporters.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 14 Dec 2010 18:44

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/politicswe ... &pid=71619
JOHANNESBURG - In late 2008 a Pakistani-led criminal syndicate defrauded the South African Revenue Service (SARS) of just over R50m.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Rahul Mehta » 14 Dec 2010 19:10

Attn : Shiv

If possible, pls email me at MehtaRahulC@yahoo.com

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Admins,

Pls delete this past after two days

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby KSKumar » 14 Dec 2010 20:53

anupmisra wrote:

1. In an ideal Indo-pak collaboration, per the purelanders, the Pakis will take on the "financial" and "infrastructural" risks. Ha!! What irony!!
2. India opens up its rolodex of clients to the pakis and trains the intellectually-challenged paki IT workers so that they can and will steal jobs and clients away from the Indian IT companies in the future.


Back in 2004-2005 timeframe, Azim Premji used to talk about Paki and Bangladeshi math prowess and how they are essentially the same as Indians. He made it a point to talk about this in every All Hands Meet during that timeframe. This concided pretty nicely with NDA going out and UPA coming in.

I do fear there is something afoot. I hope I am wrong. But, Premji is not know to muck about. He usually is quite serious.

In the years since, whether Premji has still been on this topic, is something I do not know. I left Wipro in 2005.

It was quite surreal hearing him talk about Paki/Bangladesh math prowess, while the full extent of Lahori Logic and Madrassa math was being brutally exposed here on BRF.

The plans to collaborate probably sunk with spiralling violence against India. Perhaps, it is being revived now as part of GOI's make-love-to-paki pigs.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby ramana » 14 Dec 2010 21:27

Ambar wrote:I fail to fathom what drives the likes of a low level IT chap like Rahul Mohod to billionaire CEO like Anand Mahindra to these Paki organized forums? What are they trying to achieve ? Why not a investment forum on NE states or central states? And our spineless government lets these jokers get away with all this! From AMD to Siemens and Nokia have invited the ire and wrath of western governments for dealing with Iran, but not in SDRE land..no matter how often we are blown to smithereens by Paki piglets, our WKKs from all walks of life are only too happy to do 'gup-shup' with their Paki brothers.



"They also serve, who stand and stare" John Milton, Paradise Lost.

Despite the misgivings, I support this initiative to help bolster the other IT in TSP. Most likely TSP IT coolies will get jobs which can be outsourced from India.

And suggest not taking potshots at that delegation for it has known entities in it. Jingoes come in various shapes. And some of them do real jingogiri and not just on internet.

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Vina thanks for the scoop from the delegation.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby arun » 14 Dec 2010 21:32

This more pure on less pure killing in the land of the pure can get confusing :-? .

Is this a case of sectarian Shia Muslim vs. Sunni Muslim bloodletting or is this a case of sub-sectarian bloodletting of the Sunni Deobandi Muslim vs. Sunni Barelvi Muslim kind, or some other variant of killing rooted in differences in the interpretation of Islam :?: :

Three killed in firing at Peshawar shrine

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby ramana » 14 Dec 2010 21:40

Shrine means sufi. The three were caretakers of the shrine. Not the shrine is for Ghazi Baba. Don't know who but from the name its someone who is mullah type warrior.
Generally Sunni on Sunni means Deobandi/Wahabi on Ahle Hadith or other lightweight.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Joseph » 14 Dec 2010 21:49

JE Menon wrote:Ah... the wagons are being circled back in Pindi.

Expect momentous news in the weeks ahead gents.

Building a global consensus takes time, effort and sagacity. We are getting there.

Do not assume that these comments coming from the various leaders, including all the P5 except one, are random occurrences.

But, it is not the end game. Not yet.

Pakistan's state managers will have to decide whether they will change, from within, the way the country operates, based on their assessment of whether the country itself can be "changed" from without. I am not optimistic about their capacity for such assessment.


The RAPES would likely lose less than the Pakistani Army and the Mullahs in regards to changing the way the country operates if satisfying the outside world is the benchmark.

Redistributing the wealth in Pakistan is a lower priority to the outside world while reversing the internal instability and stopping the IT exports is more important.

The non taxpaying RAPES are an annoyance for the countries that are funding Pakistan, but they aren't destructive as the Mullahs and the PA are.

The Mullahs and the PA will resist any significant changes because accepting them would be an admission that their past philosophies and policies were wrong and that would crush their H&D.

I don't see a way for the outside world to get the Mullahs and/or the Pakistani Army to change while preserving their H&D.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby ramana » 14 Dec 2010 21:55

JEM doesn't post often and when he does it has meaning. Read the whole passage again. Its sort of shape up message to TSP being given as the world cant afford to maintain it due to geo-economics and politics.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby RajeshA » 14 Dec 2010 21:58

ramana wrote:Generally Sunni on Sunni means Deobandi/Wahabi on Ahle Hadith or other lightweight.


Just nit-picking here! Wahhabi and Ahl al-Hadith are the same.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby ramana » 14 Dec 2010 22:03

Thats the global Ahl-al-Hadiths.

What I meant was these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamiat_Ahle_Hadith

Need to know your millahs!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Satya_anveshi » 14 Dec 2010 22:03

Arjun wrote:If this was a declaration that Ganesh Natarajan and other Indian CEOs actually agreed to, I must say it puts into question their IQ...Note the claim on Pakistan having a better software product ecosystem...for the uninitiated, software products are considered higher up the value chain than the services side.


I would read it as...leave Services alone to us SDREs and focus on the Moon. It is anyone's guess what a "made in pukistan" label would do to the products in the marketplace.

However for puki benefit, I suggest they concentrate on building synergy with one IT with another IT. It is a matter of fact that Pukis excel in International Terrorism (first IT) and there is not a whiff of a doubt about them being the industry/world leaders. Now they need to extend that to service exports in that industry as in:

opening a call center to service the needs of the customers and their staff better. For example:

Before:

Q. you shit head, you sent these two soosai bummers and they developed cold feet, what the F should we do?
Ans. Put a bullet in each and dump them in your back yard.

After:

Q. you shit head, you sent these two soosai bummers and they developed cold feet, what the F should we do?

Ans. Yes Sir, I received your complaint and have opened a ticket # 72-72-72-786 and will be glad to help you. Actually this is one of the most frequently asked question and easy to resolve.

The problem is the bummers long to go home and are missing neighbours and their cattle. If you are in possession of a goat, please let them spend a night with it. After that, ask them to read the green book which is located in the right pocket. Once that is done, please arrange for a CD player so they can hear speeches of a local imam contained in the CD which is located in their left pocket and ergo they are ready next morning to kill anyone you tell them.

This will definietly solve your problem sir.

For your benefit there is a FAQ posted to help your troubleshoot on various issues ranging from:

- Stone pelting
- border crossings
- downhill skiing
- Granades and RPGs
- AK-47s
- soosai bummers
to even

- kanadian vija issues
- XXX with animals especially goats and camels.

Is there anything else I can do for you sir? BTW: Do you mind taking a survey to let us know of the quality of service provided?

Thank you and have a great day!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 14 Dec 2010 22:23

^^^ indeed 26/11 was run out of a "call centre" in karachi, with expert problem solving and first line support to field users

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby JE Menon » 14 Dec 2010 23:02

Joseph,

I suspect you may have misunderstood my brief comment on the subject. What I was saying had nothing to do with the RAPE per se. Rather, that the managers of the state of Pakistan (which includes RAPEs, but not exclusively) are coming to a pass where they have to make some hard definitive assessments and take it forward from there; to wit: (1) change the way Pakistan operates as a country in terms of its strategic outlook and geo-political ambitions - in short, right-size them; or (2) conclude that it does not have to change in the expected, or perhaps the necessary manner, because it can survive on the strength of its deterrent capability, its alliance with China and its incestuous relationship with key Sunni Muslim countries.

However, that said:

>>The RAPES would likely lose less than the Pakistani Army and the Mullahs in regards to changing the way the country operates if satisfying the outside world is the benchmark.

The benchmark is not really about satisfying the outside world. It is instead of fundamentally altering Pakisatan's strategic calculus in order to emerge as a "normal" country that is not a nuisance to its neighbours and does not carry a distorted sense of entitlement. If it does not do that Pakistan will be dismembered. The RAPES/Military/Mullahs cannot be separated in this context. They are all part and parcel of the group that I referred to as "managers of the state". They are all involved, and often related by blood.

>>Redistributing the wealth in Pakistan is a lower priority to the outside world

Nobody gives a sh1t about this, neither the outside world, nor the Pakisatanic elite.

>>while reversing the internal instability and stopping the IT exports is more important.

Stopping the IT exports is vital. Reversing the internal stability is a work in process, and the value of its decline will be correlated to the decline of its IT exports, if you catch my drift. In other words, Pakistani internal instability is a derivative of its IT exports. If exports stop, the other will decline.

>>The non taxpaying RAPES are an annoyance for the countries that are funding Pakistan, but they aren't destructive as the Mullahs and the PA are.

This view is changing. The RAPEs are being understood and assessed accordingly. Musharraf is given airtime, but the powers that be view him as little more than an occasionally useful clown. (No sources).

>>The Mullahs and the PA will resist any significant changes because accepting them would be an admission that their past philosophies and policies were wrong and that would crush their H&D.

This is why I said, I am not optimistic.

>>I don't see a way for the outside world to get the Mullahs and/or the Pakistani Army to change while preserving their H&D.

The preservation of Pakistani H&D is the last thing on the minds of those in the outside world. Indeed, the preservation of Pakistan itself is not taken for granted.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Shreeman » 14 Dec 2010 23:11

shiv wrote:
CRamS wrote:But belive me, I watched him a lot during the Balkan saga, and the guy is simply brilliant. Lets give him his due.


Speak for yourself. You give him what you owe him boss. Please do not include me in your admiration. I think Holebrook was more hole than whole. I am glad to see him gone. Good riddance.

Sridhar nobody can know that he is going to get an aortic dissection. It is usually totally without symptoms before is starts and it kills quickly so no point making a martyr out of a person who was damaging to India.


FWICT he found the one pakistani cardiovascular surgeon to operate on him. Coincidence, or eulogistic propaganda?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Satya_anveshi » 14 Dec 2010 23:24

shiv wrote:Speak for yourself. You give him what you owe him boss. Please do not include me in your admiration. I think Holebrook was more hole than whole. I am glad to see him gone. Good riddance.


Indeed! small issue that he went quick and I thought prostrate cancer will do it him. news would have read holbrook's ash-hole broken.

If there is re-incarnation, may he be born a jihadi driving veicle for the born-again Charlie Wilson jihadi in Afghanistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby ramana » 14 Dec 2010 23:25

JE Menon wrote:Joseph,

I suspect you may have misunderstood my brief comment on the subject. What I was saying had nothing to do with the RAPE per se. Rather, that the managers of the state of Pakistan (which includes RAPEs, but not exclusively) are coming to a pass where they have to make some hard definitive assessments and take it forward from there; to wit: (1) change the way Pakistan operates as a country in terms of its strategic outlook and geo-political ambitions - in short, right-size them; or (2) conclude that it does not have to change in the expected, or perhaps the necessary manner, because it can survive on the strength of its deterrent capability, its alliance with China and its incestuous relationship with key Sunni Muslim countries.

However, that said:

>>The RAPES would likely lose less than the Pakistani Army and the Mullahs in regards to changing the way the country operates if satisfying the outside world is the benchmark.

The benchmark is not really about satisfying the outside world. It is instead of fundamentally altering Pakisatan's strategic calculus in order to emerge as a "normal" country that is not a nuisance to its neighbours and does not carry a distorted sense of entitlement. If it does not do that Pakistan will be dismembered. The RAPES/Military/Mullahs cannot be separated in this context. They are all part and parcel of the group that I referred to as "managers of the state". They are all involved, and often related by blood.

>>Redistributing the wealth in Pakistan is a lower priority to the outside world

Nobody gives a sh1t about this, neither the outside world, nor the Pakisatanic elite.

>>while reversing the internal instability and stopping the IT exports is more important.

Stopping the IT exports is vital. Reversing the internal stability is a work in process, and the value of its decline will be correlated to the decline of its IT exports, if you catch my drift. In other words, Pakistani internal instability is a derivative of its IT exports. If exports stop, the other will decline.

>>The non taxpaying RAPES are an annoyance for the countries that are funding Pakistan, but they aren't destructive as the Mullahs and the PA are.

This view is changing. The RAPEs are being understood and assessed accordingly. Musharraf is given airtime, but the powers that be view him as little more than an occasionally useful clown. (No sources).

>>The Mullahs and the PA will resist any significant changes because accepting them would be an admission that their past philosophies and policies were wrong and that would crush their H&D.

This is why I said, I am not optimistic.

>>I don't see a way for the outside world to get the Mullahs and/or the Pakistani Army to change while preserving their H&D.

The preservation of Pakistani H&D is the last thing on the minds of those in the outside world. Indeed, the preservation of Pakistan itself is not taken for granted.



Thanks JEM. What TSP is facing is a fork in history and is being watched to see which path it takes.

Forks in history are there for every nation and the study of history is to understand that. If one doesn't recognise the fork and act accordingly, then they become history.

Once again thanks for the short but insightful post. I have highlighted the essence to make it more patent.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 15 Dec 2010 02:02

SSridhar wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:Pak owning 'suicide bomber' makes its intentions clear: Army Chief

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Pak-owning-suicide-bomber-makes-its-intentions-clear-Army-Chief/articleshow/7098242.cms

I hope the Army Chief investigated the matter closely before making the above statement.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Prem » 15 Dec 2010 02:05

Mauli wrote:http://yfrog.com/h2rfqp
:rotfl:


Such a sad ,sordid affair , How could he not!!
But sincerely, Poaks are yearning to be treated as normal people I.e they are aware of the fact that they are abnormal life forms from Planet Poak in distant Pilkyway galaxy and brought to current location by their leader Conehead Jinnah.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Nandu » 15 Dec 2010 02:20

I followed some of the threads from that tweet. He is still holding on firm to the fiction that the Samjhota express was bombed by Indians.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Dipanker » 15 Dec 2010 02:56

Noose tightening around Pakis neck?

Top US officer: Pakistan knows what we want

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Ambar » 15 Dec 2010 03:33

ramana wrote:
"They also serve, who stand and stare" John Milton, Paradise Lost.

Despite the misgivings, I support this initiative to help bolster the other IT in TSP. Most likely TSP IT coolies will get jobs which can be outsourced from India.

And suggest not taking potshots at that delegation for it has known entities in it. Jinoges come in various shapes. And some of them do real jingogiri and not just on internet.

--------
Vina thanks for the scoop from the delegation.


So we should support outsourcing of technology job to our 'friends' who constantly talk about nuking us to ashes and yet we frown upon 'Aman ki Aasha' ? How about taking IT jobs to those Indian states that have not benefited from the 'India Shining' story first?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby Prem » 15 Dec 2010 03:37

Fazl ur Rehman to quit government
http://www.businessrecorder.com/news/la ... ment-.html
Reacting sharply to the dismissal of party leader from federal cabinet Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman Tuesday announced his decision to quit the coalition government.Maulana Fazlur Rehman announced the decision after chairing an emergency meeting of Majlis-e-Shura held to review termination of Azam Swati, Federal Minister for Information Technology.Speaking to reporters here on Tuesday, Maulana said his party was not taken into confidence about the removal of Azam Swati. He also informed that Rehmatullah Kakar and Maulana Ata-ur-Rehman of JUI-F will also give up their ministries.
However, Maulana said his party has not yet decided to continue or break the coalition in provinces.

Is this he first nail in 10%ee's final yatra box?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Oct. 20, 2

Postby SSridhar » 15 Dec 2010 06:00

A_Gupta wrote:
SSridhar wrote:I hope the Army Chief investigated the matter closely before making the above statement.


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I am now convinced that this was the guy who bombed the Samjhota Express.


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