Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby svinayak » 09 Jan 2011 00:42

No matter what the previous PMs did but the one who really took the heat after POK gets the credit.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby putnanja » 09 Jan 2011 00:44

A_Gupta wrote:But as somebody who knew Salman more than a bit, particularly in his street-fighting years (and my pavement-thumping years as a reporter), I am surprised by how little is said of him as a genuine Pakistani patriot and a proud Muslim. .....
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To me the key passage is:
One is its liberal elite’s intellectual dislike/ suspicion/ distrust of India based purely on our contrasting national ideologies, further coloured by an almost unanimously shared outrage over the “injustice” in Kashmir. The other stream is more simplistic, represented by some in the religious right, particularly in Pakistani Punjab, who detest India on purely religious grounds: “How seriously can you take a country run by infidels?” Until a decade ago, this was a tiny minority you could ridicule or ignore. It is no longer so. And Taseer’s death has further shifted the balance in favour of these India-hating lunatics, and weakened those not exactly friends of India, the more rational, India-baiting, modern Pakistani nationalists.
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Why is this a key passage from Indian PoV? The pakistani India-baiting nationalists are no less anti-Indian than the mullahs, and both would do anything to harm India in a heart-beat. From an Indian PoV, there is no difference between the India-hating lunatics and India-baiting lunatics as SG describes

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Vivek K » 09 Jan 2011 00:45

I thought that the point was about facts!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby pgbhat » 09 Jan 2011 00:56

http://marvimemon.wordpress.com/2011/01 ... er-murder/

1. We condemn the murder of Governor Salman Taseer.
2. No individual has the right to take the law in their hands and commit murder.
3. We are mindful of the unfortunate delegation of religious matters to religious clerics and politicians taking little ownership of their responsibilities to guide this nation on religious matters.
4. We are concerned about the polarization and the fanning of extremist position either way.
5. We believe that Pakistani society must not be allowed to be divided between liberalists and fundamentalists. We are all Pakistanis and believe on the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Paksitan which is based on following every tenant of Islam without any exception.
6. We will defend Islam as vehemently as any other citizen.
7. We do not want the law of the jungle to prevail.
8. As Pakistanis we must protest the rights of all Muslims and non Muslims. Islam’s teachings on protesting minority rights are very clear.
9. We wish to promote a Quaid’s Pakistan which is based on principles of equality, tolerance, pluralism and democracy.
tauba tauba :eek:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby partha » 09 Jan 2011 01:20

To me the key passage is:
One is its liberal elite’s intellectual dislike/ suspicion/ distrust of India based purely on our contrasting national ideologies, further coloured by an almost unanimously shared outrage over the “injustice” in Kashmir. The other stream is more simplistic, represented by some in the religious right, particularly in Pakistani Punjab, who detest India on purely religious grounds: “How seriously can you take a country run by infidels?” Until a decade ago, this was a tiny minority you could ridicule or ignore. It is no longer so. And Taseer’s death has further shifted the balance in favour of these India-hating lunatics, and weakened those not exactly friends of India, the more rational, India-baiting, modern Pakistani nationalists.


Why is this a key passage from Indian PoV? The pakistani India-baiting nationalists are no less anti-Indian than the mullahs, and both would do anything to harm India in a heart-beat. From an Indian PoV, there is no difference between the India-hating lunatics and India-baiting lunatics as SG describes


I agree with you. So according to SG decades ago all those who hated India were liberals who were outraged over "injustice" in Kashmir and so the "liberals" promoted religious extremism and terrorism in Kashmir. Who does SG think he is fooling?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby ramana » 09 Jan 2011 01:50

Vivek K wrote:
ramana - check your facts about the nuke explosions. ABV credited PVN. The facts are that INC led by Mrs Gandhi broke Pakistan into two! Something that ABV had the opportunity though not the political will to repeat. No hard feelings, just the facts.

No Indian government will backtrack on Kashmir - UPA or NDA.


True he could not but not because of that. Its like a Schottkey diode i.e. one shot deal.

Its the INC perception in their upper circles that they need to achieve something. Any way if you want to we can explore this in Indian interests or Strategic Leadership thread.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 09 Jan 2011 01:57

putnanja wrote:Why is this a key passage from Indian PoV? The pakistani India-baiting nationalists are no less anti-Indian than the mullahs, and both would do anything to harm India in a heart-beat. From an Indian PoV, there is no difference between the India-hating lunatics and India-baiting lunatics as SG describes


SG (or other Indian journalists, academics, etc.) can meet and talk and have a conversation with first and not with the second type. The latter sort, if they come to power, will be shunned by the world like the Taliban of Afghanistan. Those are just two of the reasons why that is the most important part of SG's essay.

IMO, there is too much focus on "why are they calling him (ST) a liberal", or what ST said on some occasion or other. That is of human interest, but has little strategic import.

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Postby archan » 09 Jan 2011 02:46

pgbhat wrote:http://marvimemon.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/mna-marvi-memon-submits-resolution-on-governor-salman-taseer-murder/

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5. We believe that Pakistani society must not be allowed to be divided between liberalists and fundamentalists. We are all Pakistanis and believe on the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Paksitan which is based on following every tenant of Islam without any exception.
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tauba tauba :eek:

Dear Ms. Memon,
what if those tenants refuse to pay rent? :rotfl:
Marvi ji indulges in subtle pinglish which most BENISullahs can not always decipher.
PS: a qafir would have used the word 'tenet' instead.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Dipanker » 09 Jan 2011 02:51

Vivek K wrote:
The INC led GOI has problem of "tryst with destiny" as defined by their leadership: Nukes, UNSC seat, etc. Unfortunately NDA set off the bums and stole their thunder. In Indian political space they have to achieve something of equal magnitude. And US knows that wants its Shylock share to suit its interests.

No hard feelings just the facts.

ramana - check your facts about the nuke explosions. ABV credited PVN. The facts are that INC led by Mrs Gandhi broke Pakistan into two! Something that ABV had the opportunity though not the political will to repeat. No hard feelings, just the facts.

No Indian government will backtrack on Kashmir - UPA or NDA.


INC led by Mrs Gandhi was a very different Congress than of today. Congress then was nationalist, Congress of today appears in fact anti-national. Also whether or not ABV credited PVN or not, the credit for 1998 nuke explosion still goes to NDA. Anyway OT for this thread, maybe moved to OT thread.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby hnair » 09 Jan 2011 02:52

Salman Taseer is long dead and ceased to be of strategic import the minute he could not save his own life. Unless someone rises up in Pakistan and changes things drastically to allow more Salman Taseers to openly sprinkle "Pakiberal" pixie dust at Dilli-billis, I would just watch what that other smoker and the biggest strategic importer, Kiyani is doing.

That fellow, Kiyani, though clean shaven and outright harami, has not yet publicly supported Salman Taseer's grieving family. A really important point for a conveniently liberal Indian like me.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby nachiket » 09 Jan 2011 03:25

A_Gupta wrote:
putnanja wrote:Why is this a key passage from Indian PoV? The pakistani India-baiting nationalists are no less anti-Indian than the mullahs, and both would do anything to harm India in a heart-beat. From an Indian PoV, there is no difference between the India-hating lunatics and India-baiting lunatics as SG describes


SG (or other Indian journalists, academics, etc.) can meet and talk and have a conversation with first and not with the second type. The latter sort, if they come to power, will be shunned by the world like the Taliban of Afghanistan. Those are just two of the reasons why that is the most important part of SG's essay.



Not necessarily. They will be shunned only if they create problems for the Western World. If they confine their ire and nefarious activities against India, the "world" (meaning the US and its poodles) will not have a problem with them. The Taliban came into the limelight only when they protected OBL after 9/11 not before that.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Gerard » 09 Jan 2011 03:49

White girls seen as 'easy meat' by Pakistani rapists, says Jack Straw
Row erupts after former home secretary says grooming for sexual abuse is a problem among some Pakistani men
Retired detective chief superintendent Max McLean, who led a previous police investigation into sexual exploitation involving the grooming and trafficking of young girls in Leeds, questioned whether it was a cultural problem.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby rgsrini » 09 Jan 2011 04:10

archan wrote:Dear Ms. Memon,
what if those tenants refuse to pay rent? :rotfl:
Marvi ji indulges in subtle pinglish which most BENISullahs can not always decipher.
PS: a qafir would have used the word 'tenet' instead.

Saar... they will start protesting if they don't pay rent. Note #8

As Pakistanis we must protest the rights of all Muslims and non Muslims. Islam’s teachings on protesting minority rights are very clear.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby JwalaMukhi » 09 Jan 2011 04:23

Motorham's blog says:
6. We will defend Islam as vehemently as any other citizen.
7. We do not want the law of the jungle to prevail.

Of course, of course... when law of the desert is the primer, why look for law of the jungle.

8. As Pakistanis we must protest the rights of all Muslims and non Muslims. Islam’s teachings on protesting minority rights are very clear.

Couldn't have said any better. That's why pakistan is pakislam. Good luck more pure islam to pakistan will solve all the problems of pakistan and world too. Pakis are not as pious as true islam calls for, only fakers are in-charge. Pure unadulterated desert islam is the way to go.

p.s: religious clerics including govt. appointed cleric refused to perform last rites for the faker taseer. Please defend islam as vehemently as any other paki does, that will make pak the paradise on earth.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby anupmisra » 09 Jan 2011 04:40

Step 2 in the road to anarchy:

Death Fatwa for liberal Muslim woman from a Mosque in Karachi
The liberal muslim woman in this case is Ms. Sherry "squeezed" Rehman.

One of Pakistan's most liberal women and former information minister Sherry Rehman has been declared wajibul qatal, an apostate who deserves death.
The Sultan Masjid in the Defence Housing Authority passed the death edict on Rehman for moving a resolution in Pakistan's parliament to amend the draconian blasphemy law and remove the death penalty from it to protect Pakistan's religious minorities, the Politico has reported.
Pakistan analysts believe the main goal is to blackmail and prevent the U.S. from entering Pakistan to root out the Al Qaeda.
Pakistan's home minister Rehman Malik in stead of providing foolproof security to Sherry Rehman has asked her to flee the country.
Sherry Rehman, who is extemely liberal, was once the editor of the investigative monthly The Herald, a sister publication of Dawn daily, while her then husband Ehsan Malik was the finance director of the company. There were rumors in Dawn newsroom at the time that their divorce followed after Ehsan Malik returned home unannounced one day.

:rotfl: Jiye Jiye pa'astan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby JwalaMukhi » 09 Jan 2011 04:50

^Oh oh, pure is getting purer in the land of pure. Is squeeezed rehaman having candian visa on the ready to flee the land of pure. can a fatwa be issued to declare that she is no longer a muslim?
Seriously, can somebody be sent out of the islamic fold by means other than death?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Prem » 09 Jan 2011 05:18

anupmisra"]Step 2 in the road to anarchy:
Death Fatwa for liberal Muslim woman from a Mosque in Karachi
The liberal muslim woman in this case is Ms. Sherry "squeezed" Rehman.
[

The Canadian bacon visa stamp says,
Pakistan Khappe !! :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby pgbhat » 09 Jan 2011 05:50

My Father Died for Pakistan ---- Shehrbano Taseer
There are those who say my father’s death was the final nail in the coffin for a tolerant Pakistan. That Pakistan’s liberal voices will now be silenced. But we buried a heroic man, not the courage he inspired in others. This week two leading conservative politicians — former Prime Minister Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and the cricket-star-turned-politician Imran Khan — have taken the same position my father held on the blasphemy laws: they want amendments to prevent misuse.
It may sound odd, but I can’t imagine my father dying in any other way. Everything he had, he invested in Pakistan, giving livelihoods to tens of thousands, improving the economy. My father believed in our country’s potential. He lived and died for Pakistan. To honor his memory, those who share that belief in Pakistan’s future must not stay silent about injustice. We must never be afraid of our enemies. We must never let them win.

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Postby pgbhat » 09 Jan 2011 05:56

Only religious thugs love blasphemy laws ---- Nick Cohen
If the circumstances were not so hideous, the successful attempt by Pakistan to persuade the UN Human Rights Council to condemn blasphemers who defame religion would have been a black comedy. Every word its diplomats used in 2009 to protest against Islamophobia turned out to be a precise description of the prejudices the Pakistani state was appeasing at home.
Pakistan is not a land apart, living in another century. Notice how it was able to dress up its assault on freedom of speech in the modern language of human rights. Notice, too, that the UN Human Rights Council approved its duplicity. Admittedly, the council is not so much a black comedy as a sick joke, whose members include China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and many another human rights abuser. Nevertheless, it remains astonishing that a United Nations the gullible still see as a moral arbiter endorsed blasphemy.
Let us forsake pretence and acknowledge that that same fear has caught our tongues. We, too, are scared. But instead of acknowledging our fear we dress up our refusal to speak plainly in woozy therapeutic language. We talk of our "respect" for diversity and our determination to protect "the other" and fail to notice that we are abandoning "the other's" victims and aiding and abetting their enemies. Islamists threatened Ahmadis in Surrey, but the story passed virtually without comment in the British press.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Ambar » 09 Jan 2011 05:57

I'd be surprised if Sherbano, her brothers and her mum would stay in Bakistan for long now. After all, they too met Aaisa bibi so that makes them 'wajib-ul-cattle',no ? Most Paki elites either have dual nationalities or maintain homes in western nations, so i guess it is only a matter of time before they migrate to UKstan or get a Canadian visa!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Jan 2011 06:01

pak duplicity has served its extortion and rent-seeking all too well the past few decades. All the better for its neighbors if its ability to successfully deceive is impaired a tad, no?

Oh, doesn't mean its gawdfathers will change their ways. They nurture pak for geostrat reasons which haven't yet gone away. So 3.5 support shall continue only. tch tch. Anither decade of waiting for competition to somalia only.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby pgbhat » 09 Jan 2011 06:08

Search on for cleric who motivated Taseer’s assassin
According to the sources, Qadri attended a congregation on Dec 31 near his house in Sadiqabad, Rawalpindi, where the cleric delivered a speech on blasphemy.

Admired by the speech Qadri met the cleric separately and discussed with him the issue of killing people committing blasphemy. The cleric had encouraged Qadri to kill when he asked how to deal with a blasphemer, the sources added.

“After the motivation I decided to kill the governor,” Qadri reportedly told investigators. Details about the cleric have been collected and his name has been put on the list of wanted man.

The investigators detained another Elite Force man, who is a member of the prime minister’s security squad. He is a friend of Qadri and has been in touch with him. Qadri used to discuss with him the issue of blasphemy.
The sources said that Qadri had links with different religious groups. The links were first revealed during a scrutiny of the Punjab Elite Force after two attempts on the life of former president Pervez Musharraf in 2005.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Jan 2011 06:13

Vivek K wrote:ramana - check your facts about the nuke explosions. ABV credited PVN. The facts are that INC led by Mrs Gandhi broke Pakistan into two! Something that ABV had the opportunity though not the political will to repeat. No hard feelings, just the facts.


saar, issue is a discount factor sets in that reduces weightage to events farther in the past than more recent ones. Else, INC could rule a 1000 yrs based on their freedom fighting contributions and 1971 alone only. No?

No Indian government will backtrack on Kashmir - UPA or NDA.

Let's hope so. Am no longer 400% sure anymore though. Anything can happen if the price is right, esp with the current generation of netas, seems like.

oh, and jai ho and all that.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby pgbhat » 09 Jan 2011 06:15

'The killer of my father, Salman Taseer, was showered with rose petals by fanatics. How could they do this?' ---- Aatish Taseer
The last time I met or spoke to my father was – it seems hard to believe now – the night three years ago that Benazir Bhutto was killed. We had been estranged for most of my life, and just before he died we were estranged for a second time. I was the son of my Indian mother, with whom my father had a year-long relationship in 1980. In my childhood and adolescence, when he was fighting General Zia's dictatorship alongside Bhutto, and was in and out of jail, I had not known him.
The cause for that first estrangement, my father had always explained, was that it would have been impossible for him to be in politics in Pakistan with an Indian wife and a half-Indian son. And, in the end, as much as Pakistan had been the cause of our first estrangement, it was also the cause of our second, which began soon after the London bombings, when my father wrote me an angry letter about a story I had written for Prospect magazine in which I described the British second-generation Pakistani as the genus of Islamic terrorism in Britain.

My father was angry as a Muslim, though he was not a practising man of faith, and as a Pakistani; he accused me of blackening the Taseer name by bringing disrepute to a family of patriots. The letter and the new silence that arose between us prompted a book, Stranger to History, in which I discussed openly many things about my father's religion, Pakistan and my parents' relationship. Its publication freakishly coincided –though he might well have been offended even as a private citizen by what I wrote – with my father's return to politics, after a hiatus of nearly 15 years.

The book made final the distance between us; and a great part of the oblique pain I now feel has to do with mourning a man who was present for most of my life as an absence.
I should say too that on Friday every mosque in the country condoned the killer's actions; 2,500 lawyers came forward to take on his defence for free; and the Chief Minister of Punjab, who did not attend the funeral, is yet to offer his condolences in person to my family who sit besieged in their house in Lahore.

And so, though I believe, as deeply as I have ever believed anything, that my father joins that sad procession of martyrs – every day a thinner line – standing between him and his country's descent into fear and nihilism, I also know that unless Pakistan finds a way to turn its back on Islam in the public sphere, the memory of the late governor of Punjab will fade.

And where one day there might have been a street named after him, there will be one named after Malik Mumtaz Qadir, my father's boy-assassin

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby shiv » 09 Jan 2011 06:33

menon s wrote:With all Due respects, the picture and the video of Sherry Rehman, at this juncture is in my personal view inappropriate.


menon - I see what you mean, but my personal view on the issue, cruel as it may seem, is that there have to be a few more such assassinations in Pakistan. I really don't care. You see - when my people go out in India they have to be aware of the level of security alert in the town so they know which places are likely to be relatively safe on certain days. Encouraging and provoking a high profile assassination in Pakistan would be fair game as far as I am concerned. The main problem is powerlessness to do that.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby shiv » 09 Jan 2011 06:38

pgbhat wrote:http://marvimemon.wordpress.com/2011/01/07/mna-marvi-memon-submits-resolution-on-governor-salman-taseer-murder/

We are all Pakistanis and believe on the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Paksitan which is based on following every tenant of Islam without any exception.



There are the tenants of Islam - the Pakhanastanis, and the landlords of Islam - the Pakistani army, China and Yamreeka.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby shiv » 09 Jan 2011 06:49

pgbhat wrote:'The killer of my father, Salman Taseer, was showered with rose petals by fanatics. How could they do this?' ---- Aatish Taseer

my father had always explained, was that it would have been impossible for him to be in politics in Pakistan with an Indian wife and a half-Indian son.




Better to be a ba$tard than a Pakistani. So no need for any regret.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Anantha » 09 Jan 2011 07:10

This guys mother is the writer Tavleen Singh.

Another usual lie Islamists always use
My father, because his country was founded in faith, and blood – a million people had died so that it could be made

Million peple died while crossing over from either side. This was not a sacrifice for the cause of Pakistan. In fact no sacrifice was made for creating Pakiland. The leaders had no record of social service that directly corelated with corruption and the way Pakiland has been run since 1947

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby vijayk » 09 Jan 2011 07:17

pgbhat wrote:Only religious thugs love blasphemy laws ---- Nick Cohen
:rotfl: If the circumstances were not so hideous, the successful attempt by Pakistan to persuade the UN Human Rights Council to condemn blasphemers who defame religion would have been a black comedy. (Pakis are thinking ... Bloody Jew! Figured it out. Did not fall for Oxford English Suit wearing diplomatic speaking Jihadis) Every word its diplomats used in 2009 to protest against Islamophobia turned out to be a precise description of the prejudices the Pakistani state was appeasing at home. (Believe Pakis when they say Jews are dangerous. They not only figure out but broadcast to the entire world)



Pakistan is not a land apart, living in another century. Notice how it was able to dress up its assault on freedom of speech in the modern language of human rights. Notice, too, that the UN Human Rights Council approved its duplicity. Admittedly, the council is not so much a black comedy as a sick joke, whose members include China, Russia, Saudi Arabia and many another human rights abuser. (See! He is rubbing it in... Why do you think we are justified in killing all the Jews in Mumbai on 11/26. See! See!) Nevertheless, it remains astonishing that a United Nations the gullible still see as a moral arbiter endorsed blasphemy.


Let us forsake pretence and acknowledge that that same fear has caught our tongues. We, too, are scared. But instead of acknowledging our fear we dress up our refusal to speak plainly in woozy therapeutic language. We talk of our "respect" for diversity and our determination to protect "the other" and fail to notice that we are abandoning "the other's" victims and aiding and abetting their enemies. Islamists threatened Ahmadis in Surrey, but the story passed virtually without comment in the British press.


Did not even know what Asia Bibi did till now ..
He denounced the treatment of Asia Bibi, a Christian mother of five. She had argued with Muslim women who refused to drink water she had carried because she was impure and therefore the drink she carried was contaminated. They told the local cleric she had taken Muhammad's name in vain.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby sanjaykumar » 09 Jan 2011 07:29

Perhaps Salman Taseer will be known as the anti-father of the Islamic bomb.

He has concentrated the mind of the crusaders on nuclear security so they can no longer turn away. His assassin has warned to
shirk shirk or die. Only shirk has ballooned to encompass the banal such as a fight over well water (happens about ten million times a day in India).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby ramana » 09 Jan 2011 07:39

As I said earlier blashphemy can be invoked per convenience as Khalid bin Walid did.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Prem » 09 Jan 2011 07:47

The Ghazi Qadir did not do shirk so Jannat is guaranteed with better kisses from Hoors than Poak Mard and at better enjoyable place too !! :wink: Lets hope this Salmon Teeser gets his own separate water hole in jannat far away from his assasin.
Wait a minute, Paradise is so full of Poaks that supreme authority has be contemplating the name change from Paradise to Pakistan because it has become P2P business onlee.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Jan 2011 07:55

Could raa kindly 'leak' its video showing zardari dissing the mullahs and the blashphemy law in what he thought was a private candid chat only.....LOL

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby CRamS » 09 Jan 2011 07:57

partha wrote:ramanaji,

How will US profit from forcing India to talk to Pak? It very well knows India won't give up Kashmir and even without talks there is less chance of India going to war against Pak if at all India-Pak war is the main concern of US.


I am not so sure of this anymore. If MMS packages the surrender of Kashmir over the right time scale, and couched in some diplomatic gobly gook, the Indian middle class, so memerized by big boss and IT, will not wink an eyelid to such a sell out of their nationhood, or anything that will be left thereafter. They might even gyrate about thrir hips as MMS walks down the aisle in Stockholm. Remember the spectacle of Indians going into a tizzy drunk by the Oscar piss on slum dog millionaire? So where do you get this confidence that India won't give up Kashmir? With TSP in such a neurotic obsession over Kashmir, threatning nuke war every day, even making the brazen demand post Mumbai when it should have been shivering at the tought of Indian retribution at such a colossal provocation, you think such a passive, pussilanimous reaction from India will be met with compromise from TSP? They want their pound of flesh, and at least this Indian govt is willing to oblige.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby arun » 09 Jan 2011 08:09

Gerard wrote:White girls seen as 'easy meat' by Pakistani rapists, says Jack Straw
Row erupts after former home secretary says grooming for sexual abuse is a problem among some Pakistani men
Retired detective chief superintendent Max McLean, who led a previous police investigation into sexual exploitation involving the grooming and trafficking of young girls in Leeds, questioned whether it was a cultural problem.


More on the subject of Jack Straw‘s comment that those who originate in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are involved in the sexual grooming of young white girls in the UK :

White girls are 'easy meat' for Pakistani men: Jack Straw under fire for making 'offensive' remarks on sex abuse cases


And when you add the penchant for sexual grooming of young white girls of those who originate in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to their traditional penchant for IT aka Islamic Terrorism, you get this head line:

From terrorists to sexual predators: Who'd be a British Pakistani man right now?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Hari Seldon » 09 Jan 2011 08:11

^^Anybody have the BNP's official reaction if any to this line of inquiry? Just curious only.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby menon s » 09 Jan 2011 08:28

Delusions of Grandeur: Ardershir Cowasjee.
Woodward speaks of Pakistan`s man in Washington (hussain haqqani) trying to persuade the Americans to woo Pakistan as you would “woo a woman”, with gifts, respect and admiration. :oops:
Oh my God. This is so pathetic!
http://www.dawn.com/2011/01/09/delusion ... ndeur.html

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby GuruPrabhu » 09 Jan 2011 08:31

menon s wrote: ... Americans to woo Pakistan as you would “woo a woman”, with gifts, respect and admiration.


add a condom to the list to make a complete set.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2

Postby Naidu » 09 Jan 2011 08:42

GuruPrabhu wrote:add a condom to the list to make a complete set.


For whose protection?


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