Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 24 Jan 2011 23:22

Raghavendra wrote:That army which wont fight the taliban, that army which is infested with taliban sympathizers, that army which fights insurgency with F-16's and submarines

If I was the american president, I wouldnt fund such an army which is killing my soldiers in afghanistan, i would regard it as my enemy

That Army can still fight kafir Iran & India if required. That Army can create enough trouble in C Asia as to stop dragon from increasing its footprint. That army keeps the bear away from ME. That Army can march into mecca to keep the king in power. Trust me if you pay enough they would not just sell bunnies but their mothers as well only unkil needs to get serious with what it wants in Af Pak lands

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 24 Jan 2011 23:34

Tattle: Pakistani woman and Indian man? Blasphemy, cleric says

Cuddling with an Indian in India? There are few worse sins in Pakistan. Imagine "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner?" as holy war.

"You have insulted Pakistan and Islam," Qawi said of Malik on television.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 24 Jan 2011 23:39

Is Pakistan's 'Monkey Show' coming apart?

There are some signs that this monkey show is coming apart. The top monkeys in the show are beginning to fear for their lives: they cannot anymore trust the Pakistani military men and police officers they have picked to give them security. As a result, they are now looking into hiring foreign mercenaries to improve their personal security."

The USA picks the mercenaries from Pakistan’s wealthy and corrupt elites who are eager to play the part of the ‘monkey.’ Once in office, they act upon cues that are called by the US plenipotentiary in Islamabad or elsewhere. The monkey master says, Give our military transit rights through your air space and territory; the monkey obliges. He says, Join our war against Afghanistan; the monkey obliges. He says, Give us military bases to operate drones: the monkey obliges. He says, We will bomb your people, you take the blame; the monkey obliges. He says, Allow us to embed US marines among your troops operating against their own people: the monkey obliges. The monkey never disappoints.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 24 Jan 2011 23:45

Brad, Lean on PRC to take away the nukes and the TSPA is a toothless jackal. No H&D just scrounging the waste bins and road kills.

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 25 Jan 2011 00:35

Try http://keepvid.com/ or http://www.savevid.com/

Acharya wrote: Can somebody help me out -

surinder · Post by **surinder** » 25 Jan 2011 00:57

shynee wrote:Try http://keepvid.com/ or http://www.savevid.com/

Acharya wrote: Can somebody help me out -

Also, what format is it best to save the video in?

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 25 Jan 2011 01:10

Respected Acharya

Download RealPlayer( comes with google-pack, just google google pack)

Once downloaded, simply play your Youtube videos and a download box appears on the top right hand corner of the video. Just click the download button and the video gets saved in the Real Player library

Up for deletion...........

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 25 Jan 2011 01:26

Will move them all to IT thread...

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 25 Jan 2011 02:14

ramana wrote:Brad, Lean on PRC to take away the nukes and the TSPA is a toothless jackal. No H&D just scrounging the waste bins and road kills.

If I were to guess my educated guess would be either these nookes are duds or of low yield. PRC knows the art of flying kite. How much to pull the string and how much to give slack just enough to keep it in air. Giving them anything more would ultimately backfire on their back side. Else keep the stew brewing in Tibet and dragon will stop breathing fire.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 25 Jan 2011 04:30

darshhan wrote:Has col Imam's body been seen or recovered? Otherwise this whole episode might have been staged just to provide a smokescreen for some other purpose.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/107891/body ... aziristan/

Col Imam was reportedly killed by his captors and the body was dumped in the Dandi Darpakhel area, close to Miramshah, the headquarters of North Waziristan Agency.

Nonetheless, local residents said they have not seen the body.

A senior security official in Peshawar also refused to confirm the slaying. “We also have reports of his death, but we cannot confirm it,” the official told The Express Tribune.

Another Peshawar-based intelligence official also refused to confirm the report. “The Dandi Darpakhel area is adjacent to government quarters in the region dotted with security checkpoints. If there was any such thing, it would have been in our knowledge,” he added.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Jan 2011 06:04

Acharya wrote:
krisna wrote:http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=449_1184314627 ( RAW video showing the Pakistan Army inside the Red Mosque. )
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=617_1182664125 ( bbc news clip about massage parlour kidnappings)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c5_1182607733 (about chinese massage parlour kidnappings)

shiv, I could find these regarding the chinese parlours in live leaks videos.
How do we download videos from the youtube or the liveleak.
What is the tool for each

Can somebody help me out -

Normally you can get YouTube videos with a Firefox addon called UnPlug, but not these.

I got these using Flashgot which is also a Firefox addon. I am using Linux but Flashgot is available for Windows too I think.

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 25 Jan 2011 06:13

Veena vs Venomous Pakis

Gosh, more display of India's soft power, as an average Indian TV show continues to roil the pakis as they get their salwars (both men and women) all into a bunch. More shouting on etchendee, banning Indian movies, crying about India's calling them "terrorist state"

. All that AND a debate on the finer points of difference between a "show" and a "philim". India need not spend any money on reality shows every alternate season: just watch these pakis being pakis on paki TV.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 25 Jan 2011 06:42

^ BENIS material onlee.

Everybody and his uncle in bakistan wants to be a ijlamic ghazi onlee. AoA!!

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » 25 Jan 2011 07:26

MurthyB wrote:Veena vs Venomous Pakis

Gosh, more display of India's soft power, as an average Indian TV show continues to roil the pakis as they get their salwars (both men and women) all into a bunch. More shouting on etchendee, banning Indian movies, crying about India's calling them "terrorist state" . All that AND a debate on the finer points of difference between a "show" and a "philim". India need not spend any money on reality shows every alternate season: just watch these pakis being pakis on paki TV.

Paki TV shows are almost equating Indian TV/films to X-rated cheap stuff only fit for an ugly, uncivilized Hindu Kaafir. The hypocrisy of these retards is unbelievable Every PAki and his goat fall over each other to get a glimpse of Indian films and these idiots come out and act as if they never watch Indian TV. Last Years' google trends report abt Paki search habits which included "Animal XX" might have caused lot of taqleef to this delusional neanderthal retards.

partha · Post by **partha** » 25 Jan 2011 07:32

MurthyB wrote:Veena vs Venomous Pakis

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 25 Jan 2011 07:36

Mahendra wrote:Respected Acharya

Thanks everybody for the help in time

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 25 Jan 2011 07:55

32 die in bus accident
Seems that the driver fell asleep at the wheel, per survivors.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 25 Jan 2011 08:08

Severe quake hits upper part of country

According to the sources, the quake jolted cities including Islamabad, Rawalpindi, Peshawar, Mansehra, Abbotabad, Charsadda. The epicenter of the quake was Tajikistan.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 25 Jan 2011 08:51

partha wrote:
MurthyB wrote:Veena vs Venomous Pakis

Veenaji Zindabad!

This woman kicks azz. Veena for Wazeer e Asam of Paaksthaan!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 25 Jan 2011 09:58

The takleef amongst everyone on that Veena Malik interview is that she did what she did in India.

The host let his guard drop for a second when he introduced India as an 'Enemy' country. These retards have been taught in their "Pakistan Studies" books that the Indians are scheming buniuyas and sworn enemies of their pure sweet-as-a-lamb country.

The film director (who apparently makes B and C grade films which sell because of their 'sex' component) is acting holier than thou, and lets it known in the end that if Veena had done this in England, this might have been acceptable, but she did this in India and so it is not. All the hot air being shed there was all bakwaas to begin with.

The third dame on the show has a serious case of rotten apples - she was rejected by the hindi film industry and so she is on a jeehard against India. She crys that Pakistan should have broken off all contact with India the moment India tried to get Pakistan labelled as a terrorist state during Obama's visit! LOL how childish! These retards REALLY think that India's world view revolves around that insignificant terrorism-jihadism center called pakistan, because it is plainly obvious that their entire world view is India centric.

These retards watch ALL the TV shows and the movies that our film industry churn out, their markets are flooded with indian goods - everything from medicines, to automobile parts, to food items, to cosmetics - and people are falling over each other to get indian goods. A friend of mine confirmed that what these guys see on the TV ads from India, the local shop keeper gets that stuff ASAP from the smuggler route from India.

The takleef all around is that the pakistanis have maintained a tattered fig leaf of H&D and now even that fig leaf is being taken away.

Err BTW: No doubts on Veena Malik's intentions during Bigg Boss - She 400% wanted to migrate to India. She even proposed marriage to another participant on Bigg Boss even as she was cuddling with Mr Ashmit Patel. The guy she proposed to politely declined and apparently said, "I consider you to be a friend". The Bigg Boss guys must have laughed all the way to the bank, because of what Veena-ji was doing. The 'outrageousness' of what the pakistani society was seeing, in their mind one of their own wimmen who they would have preffered in a shuttlecock burqa, cuddling with a kafir and Indian in a quilt!

I am sure the TRPs for Bigg Boss must have been SKY HIGH in Pakistan.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2011 10:00

The TRP ratings of BR are also high due to edited by mod

Harish · Post by **Harish** » 25 Jan 2011 10:15

The only problem in the entire veena episode is this: she is a Muslim girl and she flirted with Hindu men. That's not ok. If a Muslim guy from bakistan had kissed and flirted with a Hindu girl on big boss, the same m*chods who are now crying foul would have lapped it up. The takleef-e-g@nd is because they saw a Hindu man doing things to a Muslim woman. Sexist b@stards.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 25 Jan 2011 10:39

Was going through the first post, found many links are without their publication dates.
Updated those dates in bold (and a few links are dead or have to be changed).

Mods, please add these changes to the first post.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html September 1947

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html Jul-Aug 2003

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html September-October 2002

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf January 20, 2007

Whither Pakistan ? Growing Instability and Implications for India: an IDSA e-Book, July 2010
http://idsa.in/book/WhitherPakistan

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html 09. 06. 2003

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html September-October 2002

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/archive/nayyar_report.htm August 2006

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html No Date was found.

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html 2002

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html 12/07/2009

Prof. Walter Russell Mead, "Pakistan's Failed National Strategy"
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... -strategy/ August 17, 2010

"Pakistan Is", by Barry Bearak in New York Times Magazine, December 7, 2003.
Brings out succinctly various facets of Pakistani perfidy, obsession, fundamentalism etc.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... nted=print

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp May 19, 2005

Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html September October 2003

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related has been removed to be reuploaded
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html FEBRUARY 5, 2001

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html Link dead- New Link http://www.rand.org/commentary/2001/09/01/JIR.html September 1, 2001

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html 12/19/2009

BEYOND MADRASAS: ASSESSING THE LINKS BETWEEN EDUCATION AND MILITANCY IN PAKISTAN
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... nthrop.pdf June 2010

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm OCTOBER 20, 2001

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm Link Dead

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html December 29, 2003

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html 2.21.03

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4 February 5, 2004

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm ---> Real Terror Culprit By Arnaud de Borchgrave The Washington Times, August 2, 2004

The Battle for Pakistan: Militancy and Conflict in Pakistan's Tribal Regions
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/ ... r_pakistan April 2010

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html 13. 06. 2006

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf 2006

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India. Link dead, Dawn link not found

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1 August 28, 2008
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem. June 12, 2008

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

MISCELLANEOUS
Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup
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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad”

A perceptive blog on Pakistan: http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/

Declassified documents from US National Archives on Pakistan:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/pakistan.htm
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Admission of state sponsored terrorism by Pakistani authorities

see this Der Spigel Interview where Musharraf admits to that.

On 7th Nov in TimesNow Channel, Tasneem Noorani, a former Secretary of the Pakistani Interior Ministry, openly said that.

Kiyani called the Haqqanis as strategic assets.

In Dec. 2008, President Zardari himself admitted to ISI helping LeT. He said,"The links between the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency and the LeT were developed in the old days when dictators used to run the country. After the 9/11 terror attacks in the US, things have changed to a great extent"

In an address to bureaucrats in July 2009, President Zardari said: "Militants and extremists were deliberately created and nurtured as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives. Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities. The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well"

In Nov. 2009, Prime Minister Gilani admitted to the support for terrorism by Musharraf as "running with the hares and hunting with the hounds".

When Bush warned the Pakistanis in August 2008 of their support to Al Qaeda, Afrasiab Khattak, President of Awami National Party (ANP) said this: "The question is why it has taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing. We’ve been telling them for years but they wouldn’t buy it.". See here.

In an interview to the BBC as far back as on Feb. 13, 1994, Benazir Bhutto admitted how she handed over to Rajiv Gandhi the complete list of Sikh activists colluding with the ISI in terrorism in the Punjab. Later, Nawaz Sharif described this interview as a faux pas.

Apart from these, of course, numerous Pakistani commentators, analysts, and editors have openly admitted to terror as a state policy.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/29/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 25 Jan 2011 12:44

At this rate, all the Taliban leaders will soon become "Indian agents"

- A couple of the above that I know of have impeccable Talqaeda pedigree ...

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 25 Jan 2011 12:50

Acharya wrote:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=449_1184314627 ( RAW video showing the Pakistan Army inside the Red Mosque. )
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=617_1182664125 ( bbc news clip about massage parlour kidnappings)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7c5_1182607733 (about chinese massage parlour kidnappings)
How do we download videos from the youtube or the liveleak.
What is the tool for each Can somebody help me out -

Can be done using this freeware http://www.orbitdownloader.com/

Simple HowTo http://www.orbitdownloader.com/How-to-D ... -Video.htm

Uploaded to mediafire if someone doesnt want to take the risk of installing external software

Religious Students Kidnap 9 In Islamabad
http://www.mediafire.com/?252goa8kgfua3un

Kidnapped massage women freed
http://www.mediafire.com/?8az7waw2ikd2e5t

Pakistan Army Wearing Shoes Inside Red Mosque
http://www.mediafire.com/?adgjfo5sil86lbd

Johann · Post by **Johann** » 25 Jan 2011 13:46

Re. Imam/Tarar

- It is pretty standard for intelligence officers anywhere in the world to use aliases in the field, and sometimes those are the ones that stick, especially by the time the press gets a hold of it. You have to assume that the people you recruit will one day either be captured, or may end up working for someone else if they aren't already.

- The "Asian Tigers" are the Punjabi Taliban, the former LeJ which have been at war with the Pakistani state since the Sharif and then the Musharraf years over sectarian killings. They absolutely hate the PA and its two-timing ways. The Mehsuds and these guys have a common cause. On the other side you have PA-friendly Afghan jihadis like the Haqqanis and the Quetta Shura.

- Even though the Taliban gets on with the PA and depends on them, it is not willing to fight the Pakiban for them. The PA relies on the American drone program to keep the Pakiban in check. The problem is that the Americans are also hammering the PA's allies like the Haqqanis. When David Rhode, the kidnapped NYT reporter (see his book 'A Rope and a Prayer') escaped the PA was very interested in all they could squeeze out of him on the Pakiban, and entirely uninterested in the Haqqanis.

- The Pakiban honestly believed that grabbing someone like Tarar, an emeritus member of Pakistan's secret state would give them real leverage, given Hamid Gul's influence, etc. No such luck. Tarar himself appeared shocked by how little he counted for. His video statements from captivity aimed at the Pakistani government were both bitter and fearful.

- The whole Khwaja/Tarar incident has exposed the cracks within the PA's own establishment, especially on the covert side. The PA is still collectively squeezing profits out of the jihadi ecology it has bred, but it can not and will not save its own senior horticulturalists from some of the mutants roaming in its own backyard. Is anyone in Pakistan safe? Governors, Prime Ministers, generals, spymasters, they've all been killed. The Pakistanis were sure the Americans are about to leave Afghanistan. Now they're going to stay until 2014 at the very least. Will the Haqqani network stay loyal given the kind of casualties they are taking from US drones, flown from/through Pakistan while the PA and PAF stands idle?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Jan 2011 14:09

Harish wrote:Sexist b@stards.

Islam clearly puts a man's worth above that of a woman despite protestations to the contrary.

partha · Post by **partha** » 25 Jan 2011 14:31

I am for Big Boss 5 with Paki chicks and Yindoo men. That will put whole of Pak on fire.

Rajdeep · Post by **Rajdeep** » 25 Jan 2011 14:37

Muslims in Italy tell those concerned over Christianophobia: Convert to Islam!

http://www.energypublisher.com/article.asp?id=47098

"Islam is the true religion; convert to Islam!” was the demand issued by a Pakistani radical Islamic organization, led by Malik Shaib, to promoters of a demonstration to be held on January 26 in Rome. The demonstraters express concern over Christianophobia in Muslim-dominated countries and, in particular, the case of Aasi Bibi - a Pakistani Christian woman who was sentenced to death for blasphemy according to Islamic law.

Jo lahore mein ............

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Jan 2011 15:29

MKB on "Col Imam":
How will the angels greet ‘Colonel Imam’?

The mystery of the death of ‘Colonel Imam’ has been removed. After all, he died a natural death, following a heart attack, while in apparent captivity in the lawless tribal regions of Pakistan. Earlier speculations that he was executed have been laid to rest. Correctly so. It was almost unthinkable that the Taliban would allow their mentor to be killed in cold blood. That would have gone against the grain of Afghan traditions. Besides, ‘Imam’ had always been one of them. He had personal equations with Mullah Omar dating back to the 1980s. He was with Mullah Omar in Kandahar in the final countdown to the American air strikes in October 2001, when they dispersed, with Omar famously climbing on to a motorbike and driven away into the darkening mountains as the dusk fell. ‘Imam’ never hid the fact that he urged Omar to fight on and drive the Americans out of Afghanistan.

The remaining mystery is why the Pakistani military didn’t move heaven and earth and get him released. It is hard to believe that the requisite ‘influence’ was lacking - or the political will. A million dollar question remains: Was Imam indeed in ‘captivity’, or was he on some sort of special assignment to steer the Taliban safe and dry in the final lap of their triumphant return to power in Kabul?
I first heard about his presence in the Kandahar-Herat region sometime in late-1994 from an Afghan who came to Delhi for medical treatment. It wasn’t too difficult to put 2 and 2 together and make it 4 - that Taliban was indeed an outfit of the Pakistani security establishment, contrary to the myths that were being propagated from Islamabad. For, Imam’s presence in that complicated region inside Afghanistan right at that point in time could only have meant that some bloody serious business was afoot. Curiously, Pakistan was also sponsoring Gulbuddin Hekmatyar at that time and Gen. Hamid Gul was active on that front. Amazing that two such vastly different streams of Pakistani ’strategic assets’ were in operation simultaneously - and they finally ‘coalesced’ in 1996 near Saroki in the outskirts of Kabul when Taliban drove Gulbuddin out of Afghanistan into exile in Iran. No doubt, Imam plotted fastidiously the Taliban’s ‘pilgrim’s progress’ from Kandahar via Herat and Jalalabad to Kabul.
Stories about Imam as the Pakistani consul-general in Herat used to filter down to the Tashkent bazaar when I served in that ancient oasis town in the Central Asian steppes. I invariably asked about him while walking the dusty streets of Mazar-i-Sharif. By the mid-1990s, he was already of the stuff of legends. I began harbouring a secret longing to meet him sometime, somewhere. It never happened. But it was also as if I already knew him so well that there was no more any real need to meet. One never got tired of devouring stories of his feats that were handed down. Indeed, at a certain point one even stopped bothering to check out the veracity of the stories surrounding the working life of this secretive man. It became pointless to segregate the kernels of hard facts and fiction. They blended so well. Imagine, this was the man who was received in the Ronald Reagan White House and presented with a piece of the Berlin Wall with a plaque commending him for striking the ‘first blow’ that brought the Soviet Union tumbling down.

He probably considered himself a ‘jihadi’ handpicked by God and bestowed with the special skills he acquired as a special forces officer of the Pakistani army trained in Fort Bragg in the US. Rock-like faith was what made this austere man so hugely effective on the operational plane - unlike Gul who talked too much, lived rather well, dressed nattily, partied and sought publicity. Wouldn’t the angels be saying Salaamun ‘Alaykum as the Colonel enters the gates of paradise?

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Jan 2011 15:39

partha wrote:I am for Big Boss 5 with Paki chicks and Yindoo men. That will put whole of Pak on fire.

Perhaps time for catalog RAPE brides from Pakistan, hand delivered to an address in India, all pretrained in Gayatri Mantra!

amit · Post by **amit** » 25 Jan 2011 16:18

RajeshA wrote:
I am for Big Boss 5 with Paki chicks and Yindoo men. That will put whole of Pak on fire.
Perhaps time for catalog RAPE brides from Pakistan, hand delivered to an address in India, all pretrained in Gayatri Mantra!

Boss how times have changed. In the 1990s we used to hear about how Indian girls used to get weak in the knees at the sight of TFTA Paki cricketers.

Now Mortharmas from the land of pure are desperately looking for hubbies (and a ticket to India) in two-bit/upcoming actors in reality shows.

But wait wasn't this Veena lady having an affair with some Paki cricketer and they broke off very publicity when she accused the guy of "not returning" her money or something?

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 25 Jan 2011 17:55

Lahore bomb blast: 16 people dead, 10 people injured.

Suicide attack on Chehlam Jaloos at Lahore near Bhati Gate

Chandragupta · Post by **Chandragupta** » 25 Jan 2011 18:09

Iirc, this Veena chick was also caught on tape with Barkha Dutt in an interview scoffing at the thought of having an Indian boyfriend (some Deepak photographer/bookie) claiming that she had an 'Ammmercan' boyfriend who is very handsome mashallah and American citizen onlee..How times change..

Wonder why she thought any self respecting Indian guy will marry this pretentious sl*t.

Raghavendra · Post by **Raghavendra** » 25 Jan 2011 18:22

sum wrote:MKB on "Col Imam":
Wouldn’t the angels be saying Salaamun ‘Alaykum as the Colonel enters the gates of paradise?

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Baa Baa Bloody Sheep have you any shame

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 25 Jan 2011 18:36

^^ These days, silly Jihadi's don't even wait for Friday for their match. How hard it becomes for us to figure out the conspiracy of such acts on Wednesday's.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 25 Jan 2011 18:42

VikasRaina wrote:^^ These days, silly Jihadi's don't even wait for Friday for their match.

Shiite worshippers were marking the end of the holy month of Muharram when the blast hit their procession Tuesday.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 25 Jan 2011 18:42

VikasRaina wrote:^^ These days, silly Jihadi's don't even wait for Friday for their match. How hard it becomes for us to figure out the conspiracy of such acts on Wednesday's.

There is a competetion for 72. Probably demand-supply is under strain. Hence some abduls are doing stuff prematurely before Friday to beat out the one who do it on Friday.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 25 Jan 2011 18:56

Now a blast in karachi.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 25 Jan 2011 19:01

abduls are suffering from premature eksplojun praablems