Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Dec. 28, 2010

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Counter Punch provides many details.......

https://civiliancontractors.wordpress.c ... tants-llc/

".....Pakistani journalists have been speculating that Davis is either a CIA agent or is working as a contractor for some private mercenary firm–possibly Xe, the reincarnation of Blackwater. They are not alone in their suspicions. Jeff Stein, writing in the Washington Post on January 27, suggested after interviewing Fred Burton, a veteran of the State Department’s counter-terrorism Security Service, that Davis may have been involved in intelligence activity, either as a CIA employee under embassy cover or as a contract worker at the time of the shootings. Burton, who currently works with Stratfor, an Austin, TX-based “global intelligence” firm, even speculates that the shootings may have been a “spy meeting gone awry,” and not, as US Embassy and State Department officials are claiming, a case of an attempted robbery or car-jacking.
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here is Nevada registration of Hyperion...

http://www.nvannualreport.com/entities- ... S-LLC.aspx
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Suicide blast at Pakistan army recruitment center kills 10

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 465711.cms

ISLAMABAD: A suicide bombing at an army recruitment centre in northwest Pakistan on Thursday killed atII least 10 people, said a police official.
Residents said the bomber struck while recruits were conducting morning training in the town of Mardan.
I guess this is still a developing story.
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the score is 18 now....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110210/ap_ ... s_pakistan

a factor of 72...........madrassa math coincidence.....
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friday came a day early
Teen suicide bomber strikes Pakistan army facility, 20 dead
Published: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011, 10:01 IST | Updated: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011, 10:58 IST
By Zeeshan Haider | Place: ISLAMABAD | Agency: Reuters

A boy in a school uniform blew :eek: himself up at a Pakistani army recruitment centre in the troubled northwest region on Thursday, killing 20 cadets, military and security officials said.

The attack challenged official assertions that army offensives had weakened al Qaeda-linked Taliban militants waging a campaign to destabilise Pakistan's US-backed government.

The brazen bombing suggested militants are regrouping after a lull in major attacks. Militant operations in recent months have been mostly sectarian and have not focused on military targets.

"The bomber struck recruits when cadets were busy in their morning training," a military official told Reuters. At least 20 people were wounded.

The boy apparently walked into the compound, officials said.

Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani condemned the attack at the Punjab Regiment Centre in the town of Mardan

"Such cowardly attacks cannot affect the morale of the security agencies and the resolve of the nation to eradicate terrorism," he said in a statement.

Gilani's government is under pressure on several fronts. It is trying to revive a stagnant economy and public discontent is growing over official corruption, rampant poverty and power cuts.

The United States, which provides billions of dollars in aid, wants Pakistan to step up its fight against militant groups who cross the border to attack Western forces in Afghanistan.

But Pakistan's military is already stretched fighting homegrown militants.
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it is important to note that its the 'punjab regiment' which takes the hit. the suicide bomber did not target any other Pak Army unit.
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Toll is now 27 - http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/11/world ... an.html?hp

What is the blast radius of a suicide bomber?
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NDTV's Nidhi Razdan saying there will be some announcement that Indo-Palk tallks will resume.
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Report: India, Pakistan to resume peace talks
NEW DELHI — India and Pakistan have agreed to resume formal peace talks that were broken off by New Delhi after the 2008 Mumbai attacks, Indian sources said on Thursday, a crucial step forward in improving ties that impact regional security.

The decision was made at this week's talks between the two countries' top foreign office officials in the Bhutanese capital of Thimphu.

Both sides have been under pressure from the United States to reduce tension because their rivalry spills over into Afghanistan and complicates efforts to bring peace there.

"The new talks are in effect the formal resumption of the composite dialogue," a senior Indian government official involved in repairing ties with Pakistan told Reuters, referring to a 2004 peace initiative.

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Baloch Freedom Fighters blow up largest gas pipeline in southwestern Pakistan
QUETTA: Militants on Thursday blew up the largest gas pipeline in southwestern Pakistan for a second time this week, again leaving tens of thousands of consumers without gas, officials said.

“It was the major pipeline. Militants dynamited it overnight only a few hours after the authorities repaired it,” :(( senior administration official Anwar Durrani told AFP in Balochistan province, which borders Iran and Afghanistan.
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Singha wrote:friday came a day early
Teen suicide bomber strikes Pakistan army facility, 20 dead
Published: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011, 10:01 IST | Updated: Thursday, Feb 10, 2011, 10:58 IST
By Zeeshan Haider | Place: ISLAMABAD | Agency: Reuters

A boy in a school uniform blew :eek: himself up at a Pakistani army recruitment centre in the troubled northwest region on Thursday, killing 20 cadets, military and security officials said.
Remember, this 'school' is in Pakbarianistan...that means the 'uniform' could be a madrasah uniform not shorts and shirt..
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Narad wrote:Baloch Freedom Fighters blow up largest gas pipeline in southwestern Pakistan
“It was the major pipeline. Militants dynamited it overnight only a few hours after the authorities repaired it,” :(( senior administration official Anwar Durrani told AFP in Balochistan province, which borders Iran and Afghanistan.
Like in the old Laurel/Hardy movie where one goes around breaking glass and the other fixes it for a fee...
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Score 27 now, which still has a connection with 72...
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AoA, its 30 Now.
Such army areas are usually heavily guarded, though an attack on the same training facility in 2006 killed 35 soldiers.
My take is that mujahideen will score at least 40-45 this time and break their previous record at the same venue.
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Living on US dole, Pakistan builds fourth plutonium reactor

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 466896.cms
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abhishek_sharma wrote:Living on US dole, Pakistan builds fourth plutonium reactor

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 466896.cms
From the above Link
The U.S administration, as usual, is not expected to react to the development amid mounting criticism that it is effectively funding Pakistan's nuclear weapons program because Islamabad does not generate enough revenues on its own and lives on international dole. The country is in such bad shape that its state-owned airline PIA and its railways are now crippled by strikes and shortages. The federal cabinet resigned en masse earlier this week to pave way for a smaller ministry to save money amid growing disquiet about the profligate ways of its politicians and the military.

But none of this appears to have affected its nuclear program, that in effect are indirectly underwritten by Washington, and which in turn has made no effort to rein in the unstable country's massing of nuclear weapons.
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"The new talks are in effect the formal resumption of the composite dialogue," a senior Indian government official involved in repairing ties with Pakistan told Reuters, referring to a 2004 peace initiative.
Sigh, some ore SeS are on the way then.

Wonder what is the fig leaf under which the GoI is resuming the talks this time given that the Pakis have shown the finger to GoI on every issue on which action was demanded as pre-requisite for talks?
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Basically GOI cares a Damn on Public Opinion, its got the Media in its Camp on a cause which they support and Feel with voting based on Communal/caste basis as Chidambaram stated in the next 15 years it will be a Congress or Congress lead alliance at the Center.
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India, Pakistan agree to resume dialogue

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 467909.cms
Pakistan confirmed on Thursday an agreement with India to resume dialogue "on all issues", more than two years after peace talks collapsed, and said its foreign minister would visit India by July.

Pakistan's foreign ministry made the announcement in a statement that followed a meeting on Sunday between the two countries' top foreign ministry civil servants in Bhutan, where the two prime ministers also met in April 2010.

"They have agreed to resume dialogue on all issues following the spirit of the Thimphu meeting between the two prime ministers," said the statement.

"The foreign minister of Pakistan will visit India by July 2011 to review progress in the dialogue process with his counterpart. This will be preceded by a meeting of the two foreign secretaries," it added.
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good article...
The White House Is Starting To Accept That The Current Pakistani Government Will Fall
no one at the highest levels of the United States government doubts that Pakistan's current government will fall
not quoting any more para here as entire article is quotable.
Also go through the comments :)
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Mashallah
The Pakistani ministers had been reading up on the financial news from America; bail-out after bail-out of failing and failed institutions, brought back from the dead only because they were deemed "too big to fail."

Pakistan, these officials reasoned, was way too big to fail. Pakistan had nuclear weapons, it was failing on almost every level, and those two facts, combined, entitled Pakistan to a massive bail-out. Holbrooke said that one minister he met with was literally rubbing his hands together in anticipation of counting all the loot that would almost certainly be coming his way.
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then
Right he was. Officially, since 2007, the amount of US foreign aid to Pakistan has quadrupled (from roughly $750 million in 2007 to over $3 billion 2011). And that doesn't count the military, intelligence and operational support that the US provides out of its "opaque" and "black" budgets. If you added it all up, the total amount of US aid to Pakistan would make your head spin.
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But wasn't GoI always talking to TSP whatever name you may give to such chatting. Whether it was Thimpu or Krishnaji Maharaj himself visiting TSP and getting embarrassed by Paki FM, When was GoI not talking to Paki Govt. ?

PS: Good that current GoI does not care about Public opinion.
Come 2014 and they will realize Public also doesn't care much about bringing them back in power ever again.
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abhijitm wrote:good article...
The White House Is Starting To Accept That The Current Pakistani Government Will Fall
no one at the highest levels of the United States government doubts that Pakistan's current government will fall
not quoting any more para here as entire article is quotable.
Also go through the comments :)
Abhijit M this bold part needs to be Highlighted
Right he was. Officially, since 2007, the amount of US foreign aid to Pakistan has quadrupled (from roughly $750 million in 2007 to over $3 billion 2011). And that doesn't count the military, intelligence and operational support that the US provides out of its "opaque" and "black" budgets. If you added it all up, the total amount of US aid to Pakistan would make your head spin.
More than official aid it is this which is important, infact after 9-11 Pakistan reported a Huge FDI increase 2002-03 which led to higher GDP growth than India for that year. No guesses regarding how that GDP growth was achived- itwas not through Official US Aid but the reimbursements and black budgets.

So when people talk about the 15 Billion official Aid since 9-11 to Pak they are only talking about the tip of the ICEBERG visible above water. The rest 5/6 is below water. Some estimates put around 30% of Paki GDP is through aid from 3.5. If this aid was cut off overnight riots would happen in TSP
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What is this myth about Indian army on the border which ties down Paki Army, which other wise would have been available for R&R on the Paki western front.
I mean there is army on the border because there is a bloody crazy terrorist nation on Indian western borders.
It is not like strike corps are standing down the borders waiting for TSPian army to move to FATA and Indian troops could invade.
How is Unkill who claims to be Mr. Know all buying such lemons from Paki army.
I think this is another of those excuses to hide American failure in tackling terrorism originating form Pakistan.

Assuming If India has amassed troops on the western borders, why the heck should we remove them just to make Unkill's life easy while Indians are being killed with no less help from rogue cia resources (Headly someone).
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http://www.sify.com/news/pakistan-defen ... geiig.html
Islamabad, Feb 9 (IANS) Prosecutors have recommended registering an espionage case against US official Raymond Davis, who shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore, after police retrieved from his camera photographs of some sensitive areas and defence installations, including those of army bunkers on the eastern border with India.
What are these Yamreekis upto??
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From the Interview given by Shri K. Subrahmanyam which is posted in his Obituary thread.
SK: What do you think about what Man Mohan Singh has started?

KS: I have a feeling that you might have peace and stability with all other states: Bangaldesh and others and even with China but I doubt very much you will be able to do that with Pakistan. They are not a rational state. For them hatred of India is over powering.

SK: Don’t you think that at least in a section of people; youth, businessmen etc in Pakistan that there is feeling that peace will mean sharing prosperity on both sides etc.?

KS: That kind of middle class is not very large in Pakistan, neither has it been allowed to grow.

SK: Musharraf’s proposals looked actually reasonable.

KS: Musharraf’s proposals can be looked at even though his idea of joint management is vague, through which he wanted to tell his people that now he can control Indian Kashmir also etc. On the other hand we would say we will also have say on your side and between the two systems let us see where Kashmiris on both sides would go. But the main point is still even among the middle class the hatred of India is still very strong. So they are not ready to condemn LeT. They have subliminal sympathy.

SK: Is that because of Kashmir?

KS: No that is not because of Kashmir, in fact Kashmir is because of two-nation theory, jihadi mentality etc. I have also interacted with Pakistanis. Javed Jabbar who used to be a minister who was born in Madras, (his father was commissioner of police). He once told me, there will be no peace in South Asia till India breaks up into constituents. First of all they convinced themselves that Islam alone will unify and Hinduism cannot. It is a difficult and troubled state.
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Narad wrote:http://www.sify.com/news/pakistan-defen ... geiig.html
Islamabad, Feb 9 (IANS) Prosecutors have recommended registering an espionage case against US official Raymond Davis, who shot dead two Pakistanis in Lahore, after police retrieved from his camera photographs of some sensitive areas and defence installations, including those of army bunkers on the eastern border with India.
What are these Yamreekis upto??
No, no ... it is the Pakis who have a psychological need to connect every woe that afflicts them to India in some way. I would say that this could be planted "evidence".
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Fallout from takleef-e-Raymond. It is very impressive that the Paki "indigenous" barber has such fancy attributes - "stealth", "terrain hugging", "digital scene matching" etc.

Pakistan carries out successful test of Cruise Missile
Pakistan on Thursday Successfully conducted test fire of indigenously developed Cruise Missile Hatf-7 (Babur) having a range of 600 kms. According to ISPR, Babur can carry payload of strategic and conventional warheads.

Having stealth capabilities, and the terrain hugging,the missile can fly low. The Cruise Missile has high maneuverability, pin point accuracy and radar avoidance features. It also incorporates the most modern cruise missile technology of terrain counter matching and digital scene matching and areas correlation.
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areas correlation.
What is this?
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FWIW. Official Paki release with fancy words and a couple of photos:
It also incorporates the modern cruise missile technology of Terrain Contour Matching (TERCOM) and Digital Scene Matching & Area Co-relation (DSMAC).
http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o ... r_link1666
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Dilbu wrote:
areas correlation.
What is this?
Tomahawk cheeni clown
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'Musharraf had prior info of Taliban plot to kill Bhutto'
Islamabad, Feb 10 (PTI) Former Pakistani military ruler Pervez Musharraf knew in advance that then Tehrik-e-Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud was plotting the assassination of ex-premier Benazir Bhutto but withheld the information from security agencies, a media report said today.

Musharraf, currently living in self-exile in Britain, had "prior knowledge" of the bid of Mehsud -- who later died in a drone attack in the country's tribal belt in August 2009 -- to kill Bhutto but he "withheld this piece of vital information," Dawn News channel quoted its sources in the Federal Investigation Agency as saying.

It did not give details.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/1340880_-Mu ... l-Bhutto--
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Pakistan's Khushab Nuclear Complex

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Details on the Pakistani Nuclear Proliferation Thread
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Pakistan has tested a Cruise missile?
Why Now?

Attempt to show the abduls on the streets that the Fauj is strong, and can test mijjiles?
The bravado before capitulation on the release of RD?

Hmmm,
Now what else does Pakistan do to stave off pressure on it, and divert the abduls' attention hain ji?

Possible terrorist attack in India.
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Narad wrote: My take is that mujahideen will score at least 40-45 this time and break their previous record at the same venue.
Will this 10-12 yr old mujahideen get his 72 raisins immediately or will wait till he turns 18?

Almighty works in mysterious ways!!!
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^^Twitter

Vikram_Sood: Just as we announce resumption of talks Pakistan tests a cruise missile. Good timing!Or deliberate timing.
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27 killed in suicide bombing attack in Pakistan
A teenaged suicide bomber in school uniform attacked a military training centre in Pakistan's northwest on Thursday, killing 27 people, most of them soldiers, and injuring at least 40.

The attacker, said to be around 14, walked into Punjab regiment headquarters' parade ground in Mardan, 115km north-west of Islamabad, and blew himself up as army recruits were lining up for the morning parade, officials and eyewitnesses said. An attack on the same facility killed more than 30 soldiers in 2006.

Read more: 27 killed in suicide bombing attack in Pakistan - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... z1DZM7xIyq
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Rehashing an old saying in Paki context:

Aadmi madarssa jaane ke baad terrorist bantaa hain, par Paki hamesha terrorist ka terrorist he rehtaa hai
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