wong wrote:Err, money??.....
china has more money than india. then why india? why not china?
yes definately money is a factor but its not the only one.
It happens that non-critical goods such as paint for military applications are banned from being exported as they appear on national munitions lists, and the export of other such minor items is unnecessarily delayed, while whole diesel engines for use in submarines or space technology that can be misused to attack satellites in space can be exported without difﬁculty.
On the other hand, a general tightening of exports due to growing security concerns would backﬁre on European industries: in the light of insufﬁcient public funding, European companies have been able to supplement investments in research and development by export revenues and cheap imports of less technologically advanced machinery parts.
The main weakness of the export control regime lies in the details: ﬁrstly, every EU Member State individually translates and implements the politically binding EU Code of Conduct in national law. The same applies to the EU arms embargo on China that has been interpreted quite differently by the EU Member States.
Due to industrial policy considerations, (EU) Member States do not report the volume and type of licences that have actually been granted, but rather report denials of licences. Accordingly there is no overview on the European level of the volume and nature of dual-use technology exported to China and hence no certainty whether a ‘critical mass’ has been achieved with which China could build e.g. a ‘system of systems’.
Weighing up opportunities against risks, the advantage of collaboration(between eu and china) scores higher: collaborating with China offers new revenues that can be used for R&D in seminal technologies, participation in a burgeoning market and the possibility of keeping track of China’s developments. Moreover, collaboration can further encourage China to step up its participation and compliance in non-proliferation regimes that will not succeed without China’s engagement.
wong wrote:nash wrote:Mr. wong care to tell me then why USA so eager to exporting C-17,C-130 super hercules,Apache,M-777,P-8I,etc.
Err, money?? High paying jobs for Americans. It's an almost perverse, reverse welfare system. $1 Billion for propellers planes for Switzerland. What's next for Indian arms imports ?? $1 Million AK-47's from Qatar or $2 million RPG's from Monaco ??
the offsets including a High Altitude Engine Test Facility and Trisonic Wind Tunnel Facility which is alone valued at around half a billion dollars for the Defence Research & Development Organisation.
India's access to advanced technology air tunnel and the installation of the same in India would be important as it has till now depended on Russian test facilities to evaluate the indigenous Kaveri jet engine, which was to be used in the LCA project.
nash wrote:But PRC even have reserves of money, they don't have luxury to get those technogies and the path you guies have chosen which made PRC to wait for western countries to build something and then PRC will replicate it with any possible way.
In that way PRC may be better than many countries but always second in the race of technology.
June 27, 2012 12:04
China to rival US tech knowhow, say execs
By Peter Marsh
China will rival the US as the country with the biggest potential to develop key technology breakthroughs with a big impact on the business world, according to a survey of more than 650 executives in industries such as computing and electronics.
According to the poll, organised by the KPMG consultancy, Chinese companies and researchers are beginning to develop expertise in fields such as artificial intelligence and advanced software that will lead to “disruptive” changes in products and services and as a result provide China with a big economic boost.
In the study, 30 per cent of the executives asked to give their views said that China will be the single biggest “global hotspot” for innovation within the next four years, with the US in second place attracting 29 per cent of the votes.
India, Japan and South Korea came next in the poll, with 13 per cent, 8 per cent and 5 per cent of the respondents to the survey naming these countries.
Chinese companies named as being among the likely leaders in technology over the next few years include the Tencent and Baidu internet businesses and Huawei, the fast growing telecoms equipment group.
Areas of technology where Chinese companies are seen as developing specific strengths include gaming software and cloud computing. Other disciplines where China is regarded as having the capability to push ahead in innovation include low-energy industrial processing and nanotechnology – the science of tiny particles.
The executives who answered questions in the survey work in technology-based businesses around the world, mainly in North America, Europe and the Asia-Pacific region.
Tudor Aw, KPMG’s head of technology in Europe, said that the results showing China was a fast developing rival to the US in technology were “surprising” given the country’s relatively poor showing in devising important technical innovations over the past 30 years.
“I think what the survey shows is that the big advances in education in China, and the money being put into technology development, are likely to lead to breakthroughs in a way that many people might not expect,” Mr Aw said.
He added that the speed of change in technology often was extremely fast – as shown, for instance, by the fast rise to prominence in mobile telecoms by Nokia, together with the Finnish company’s equally rapid descent.
“Given the likely pace of change in the coming years in many areas of technology, it becomes plausible to think that China – in spite of its lack of a record in the past few years in this field – could be the country where the leading examples of innovation take place,” Mr Aw said.
Among the factors that could hold back technology innovation were governments clamping down on the amount of personal information shared over the internet.
On the assumption that privacy fears were to lead to restrictions, then incentives to devise new ways to use the information would inevitably be reduced, according to people who participated in the survey.
Software, and that too cloud computing, may be but i have doubts.
My experience and other's with chinese people project different picture.
They need documentation full of screenshots of every single step to install an application, even then they have issues.
And lack of English language make it more worse when people try to explain usual software issues, they may understand the meaning, but context and inference, its total different ball game for them.
But you are missing a important point, may be deliberately, offset.
built 100 and then sent the Russians packing
KrishnaK wrote:P.S. The google code jam ? Seriously ?
wong wrote:Chinese computer skills are tested every year in international computing competitions like Google Code Jam. China has not only won it, but usually finishes in the top ten. India... Not so much.
All our 'attack helicopters' run on code we obtained by tricking US defense companies.
Boreas wrote:wong wrote:Chinese computer skills are tested every year in international computing competitions like Google Code Jam. China has not only won it, but usually finishes in the top ten. India... Not so much.
I agree, its a well known fact that Indians are particularly weak in computer programming.
All our 'attack helicopters' run on code we obtained by tricking US defense companies.
Chinese are similar --they are no good at programming as well... -- it is an Oriental .
Singha wrote:so where do all these chinese super programmers eventually work? the bay area is full of Yindu in high profile positions in the SW arms of almost any co that comes up with original products incl startups.
there are also considerable number of europeans incl from places like UK, France,Italy, Russia, germany...canadians and some brazilians too.
I have seldom if ever seen chinese much on the SW side. if found they tend to cluster in diagnostics sw for some reason.
passing exams/winning contests in late teens is one thing, making a +ve impact on the industry or r&d is another. indians have done that and are doing that in droves not just in tech, but in finance as well. and unlike your hero worship if you check the indian education thread we criticise our own and expect them to do more, much more.
wong wrote:Indians falsely take credit for the........
Li Bin, an IPR lawyer from China says that the growth of Chinese patent filings is more a reflection of ‘trash patents’ than China’s ability to innovate (89).
Acharya wrote:Is China a country of billionaires with these fake products
In this regard, China's emphasis on its missile force capable of launching standoff precision strikes will only get strengthened by 2015, when the PLA is expected to field additional road-mobile DF-31A inter-continental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and enhanced, silo-based DF-5 (CSS-4) ICBMs. China's nuclear arsenal currently consists of about 50-75 silo-based, liquid-fuelled and road-mobile, solid-fuelled ICBMs. Asia's geo-strategic paradigm would continue to get eclipsed by security dilemmas flowing out of lack of transparency and limited dissemination of military information by China. In light of the increased focus and investments in military capabilities by the PLA, interpretations of power projection capabilities that could depose any/all regional and global strategic calculations remain galore.
wong wrote:What's wrong with the Google Code Jam? It's not a government supported contest like the Olympics. It's a Google designed contest to find good programmers. There are more Indian contestants than any other country (3,000+ this year alone). Check the other international coding competitions. Its results track code jam. You can perform statistical tests of computer programming aptitude with such rank lists and its 10,000+ sample size for each year. In short, the computer programming aptitude is just really not there in your country.
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