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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sanjeevpunj » 04 Sep 2011 06:42

Any solution that deprives Indians,specially Hindus who were forced to leave Kashmir,and pushed into refugee camps in their own country, cannot and will not work.The Interlocutors want a pre-1953 status for Kashmir,and this is not acceptable.Why does Kashmir need a special status, why not Gujarat,Rajasthan,Punjab,UP,Himachal,Assam,Arunachal,Manipur?These states also share borders with foreign countries.This demand is absolutely unjust. If a special status is to be given, it should be extended to all border states, not just Kashmir.It should be binding on the states to maintain India's Internal security.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sivab » 04 Sep 2011 07:07

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 420678.ece
“The report is purely speculative in nature. The group of interlocutors is presently engaged in preparing a draft of its final report which is expected to be submitted to the government of India before its term ends on October 12, 2011.

The three members of the group are yet to enumerate, let alone discuss and finalise the recommendations. They will do so after they return from their last visit to Jammu and Kashmir in the later half of this month,” the interlocutors - Dilip Padgaonkar, Radha Kumar and M M Ansari — said in a statement.

“So”, the interlocutors said, “There is no question of anyone in the government, let alone outside the government, being privy to the final recommendation. These recommendations do not exist in their embryonic form at present,” the statement said on the media report which had quoted highly placed sources in the government.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby CRamS » 04 Sep 2011 07:11

sanjeevpunj wrote:Any solution that deprives Indians,specially Hindus who were forced to leave Kashmir,and pushed into refugee camps in their own country, cannot and will not work.The Interlocutors want a pre-1953 status for Kashmir,and this is not acceptable.Why does Kashmir need a special status, why not Gujarat,Rajasthan,Punjab,UP,Himachal,Assam,Arunachal,Manipur?These states also share borders with foreign countries.This demand is absolutely unjust. If a special status is to be given, it should be extended to all border states, not just Kashmir.It should be binding on the states to maintain India's Internal security.


I agree with you, but what you say requires a united India speaking in one voicie and willing to fight if necessary. But India, under its "briliant econonomist" PMJi have opted to go the "pissfull" route with KMs who hate India and their TSP sponsors. And any "pissful" solution has to take into account ground realities as they are today. Lets examine them with brutal honesty.

1) India says Kashmir including POK is atoot ang. But we all know its a joke, India has made no attempt to re-capture POK. The so called "dispute" is centered on the valley as TSP defines it, and India has accepted that.

2) To reinforce its claim on the valley, TSP has spent the past 60+ years sponsoring pigLeT terrorism against India, and only recently has there been a lull after India accepted that there is a "dispute".

3) TSP has the KMs on its side, who will gyrate to TSP's diktats in a heartbeat

4) The entire "world" (US and its western lackeys) concur with TSP, and even empathize with TSP and justify TSP terror against India as a consequence of the "unresolved dispute over Kashmir".

5) A signficicant section of India is either apathetic about Kashmir, or want India to give Kashmir to TSP so India can meet its tryst with destiny as an "emerging super power of the 21st century".

So, given the ground realities above, any "pissful" solution will require compromise. TSP's "compromise" is to drop the plebiscite. KMs "compromise" is colossal autonomy with only nominal association with India. And India's compromise is autonomy with some H&D to claim that there is no secession :-). But both TSP and KMs pretty much achieve their objectives through this "pissful" solution, and this is the best India can get if it is unwilling to put up a fight.

My heart goes out to the soldiers who have laid down their lives. India could have surrendered a long time ago and spared so many soldiers' lives. Wonder how long India will survive in one piece if this diabolical "solution" recommended by the interlocuter traitors is accepted by those around MMS (he is of course on board for sure).

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Jarita » 04 Sep 2011 08:28

Those interlocutors need to be disqualified for their external allegiances

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Jarita » 04 Sep 2011 08:33

abhishek_sharma wrote:Aren't you glad we asked Fai-sponsored people to write this report? Like Sachar-committee report (another gift from Fai), this will become an albatross around our neck.



What makes you think this is by accident? The congress knows.
Maybe Subramaniun Swamy is right about promises made to Aga Khan

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby abhishek_sharma » 04 Sep 2011 11:56

'Narayanan’s exit as NSA was positive development for U.S.'

The exit of M K Narayanan as the National Security Adviser (NSA) in January 2010 was seen as a “positive” development by the US which considered his view on Kashmir as “obstructionist“.

In a cable to the U.S. State Department, then American Ambassador Timothy Roemer said that India’s Kashmir policy became “more consolidated” under the “more forward leaning Home Minister P Chidambaram”.

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“In the last six months, he (Chidambaram) has shown that he is willing to be a risk-taker on this intractable issue,” Mr. Roemer said.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby devesh » 04 Sep 2011 17:40

J&K CM will be called "Prime Minister"? we might as well give up Kashmir, if we do that. this is a bunch of nonsense. the people appointed by GoI are saying these things?!?!?! and what is the status of Hindus according to this "panel"? will persecuted Hindus be rehabilitated back in their home state? ground is being laid to behead India....forget the dreams of Central Asia, the frontier might soon be pushed to Himachal.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby chaanakya » 04 Sep 2011 19:14

devesh wrote:J&K CM will be called "Prime Minister"? we might as well give up Kashmir, if we do that. this is a bunch of nonsense. the people appointed by GoI are saying these things?!?!?! and what is the status of Hindus according to this "panel"? will persecuted Hindus be rehabilitated back in their home state? ground is being laid to behead India....forget the dreams of Central Asia, the frontier might soon be pushed to Himachal.

Report was drafted by FAI/ISI and signed by interlocutors. The report along with interlocutors should be thrown out of India.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sum » 04 Sep 2011 21:14

The exit of M K Narayanan as the National Security Adviser (NSA) in January 2010 was seen as a “positive” development by the US which considered his view on Kashmir as “obstructionist“.

The more i see of MKN and his legacy as NSA, the more i grow in awe of him esp since he seems to have been a one man army against MMS and his WKK dreams...

My humble apologies to MKN-sir for all the abuses i might have heaped on him during his tenure as i mistook his public stand as that of his private stand.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby negi » 04 Sep 2011 21:29

^ Sum how do you know rest of them are not good in person, likewise we might get another snippet after MMS's retirement as to how his public stance was not a true reflection of his personal beliefs ? :rotfl:

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sum » 04 Sep 2011 21:41

^^ Well, going by the Wikicables and other insider columns so far, MMS stand has been pretty much same in public and private atleast on J&K and TSP ( am not sure about 2G etc).

MKN has been a revelation though ( how he ticked off MMS on TSP, stood up against US most of times, was a one man "hawk" in MMS gang, how he got the NTRO to get off their political correctness and snoop on known hot-spots like Jamia nagar, Bhatkal etc) even while mouthing whatever GoI/MMS wanted him to say

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby suryag » 05 Sep 2011 02:44

Sorry MKNji i also misunderstood you, SSM is such an unworthy successor to you, we need hawks as implementers and doves as spokesman now we have both as doves :((

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby negi » 05 Sep 2011 06:10

Sum you do not get the point; you see MKN was in office till he towed PMO's line , iow the stuff for which you are giving MKN credit for did not happen without PMO's knowledge .As long as it was about internal security MKN had a free hand it's the part where TSP was involved MMS ran the show that's why MKN rebuked the PM on his statement about sharing destiny with TSP.
These things are not in B&W

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Muppalla » 05 Sep 2011 06:58

Internal security == pure politics(viz. Hindu terror, ensure Mumbai blasts, kill Karkare types, create fear in Muslims about BJP)

Foreign Policy == Sell off, for USA, by USA


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sum » 05 Sep 2011 14:20

Sum you do not get the point; you see MKN was in office till he towed PMO's line , iow the stuff for which you are giving MKN credit for did not happen without PMO's knowledge .As long as it was about internal security MKN had a free hand it's the part where TSP was involved MMS ran the show

Then my standing for MMS goes down even more since he seems to be a bigger WKK than i had imagined!!

( Am hoping its his WKK-ism which led to MKN removal and not due to know-towing to US diktat which is even more :x :evil: :evil: )

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Sanku » 06 Sep 2011 11:02

http://www.timesnow.tv/videoshow/4383214.cms

Wikibomb hits J&K CM Omar Abdullah

Don Burton quoted, "According to (Omar) Abdullah, Islamabad has gone farther than Delhi in recent years in changing their stance, and it is now time for the Indian Prime Minister to start thinking 'outside the box'. He (Abdullah) proffered that each time there is a new proposal, the MEA is the first to 'shoot it down', demonstrating that the GOI is quite content with the status quo."

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby RamaY » 06 Sep 2011 13:00

Muppalla wrote:Foreign Policy == Sell off, for USA, by USA


Foreign Policy == of USA, for USA, by USA

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby A_Gupta » 07 Sep 2011 00:59

Burying the ghosts of Kashmir graves
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/colum ... 110906.htm

If one were to put it bluntly, the story of unmarked graves is being exploited by certain vested interests in Kashmir to whip-up anti-India emotions -- both locally and internationally -- by hyping a few individual tales, obfuscating the facts and coalescing them with dubious data provided by bodies like the Amnesty International. It almost seems to be a selective call for revenge, cleverly disguised as a demand for justice.

Does this mean that these Kashmiris -- 570 or 5700, whatever their number is -- not deserve justice? Yes, they do deserve justice. But it has to be restorative or reparative justice and not retributive justice.

The Kashmir conflict has many sides. There are victims and perpetrators on all sides. If the demand for retributive justice is pursued by all sides, it will end up finishing whatever little is left to salvage in Kashmir. No side will come out of it unscathed. The social and political consequences of such an action will be devastating for the Kashmiris.

If we refuse to face the consequences of false beliefs, we are destined to repeat the mistakes of the past. Is it worth opening old wounds, disturbing the fragile peace by 'counting the bones' and dealing with the past instead of with the future?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby BijuShet » 07 Sep 2011 01:44

SSridhar wrote:^ A very interesting read. Meticulously compiled. Almost everyone is open to contacts with the US embassy and no one seems to have 'violated the ground rules' of the US embassy, whatever that might mean.

Sridharsaar, I think most people on that list who have that remark ('has not violated the ground rules' ) are journalists by profession. These people may be in contact with the US embassy to follow up on leads or probe for information on articles they may be writing. The embassy officers may be sharing info on the understanding that their names will not be used in the article or they may be giving story leads with the explicit understanding of deniablity if ever asked to vouch. That, I beleive, is a normal practice for most journalists.

If and when a journalist breaks these ground rules, he/she will find that their sources of information from within the embassy will dry up. With the amount of tech and human intel within any US embassy compound they would represent a huge fountain for many of the people whose names now figure in these leaked cables.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby SwamyG » 07 Sep 2011 17:57

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-marg ... f=pakistan
Eric Margolis championing the cause of a autonomous Kashmir :evil:

ps: when you get the time, do educate him @ HP.


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Avinash R » 09 Sep 2011 00:53

A_Gupta wrote:^^^^i don't understand link censorship. And if you don't know what they are saying, how does the lack of information help?

sorry for the late response, but such cooked reports dont provide new info. we all know the tunes communists sing in their rags, gautam navlakha is infamous for propagating maoist extremist views in epw. By linking such reports here, you only provide legitimacy and web traffic to such shady characters whose whole jholawalla business model revolves around garnering attention and then using it to earn money.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby vijayk » 09 Sep 2011 08:20

http://newsinsight.net/archivedebates/n ... recno=2190

Is Kashmir back on the US agenda? The presence in Washington of Alexander Evans, a counselor in the British diplomatic service currently on sabbatical as the Henry A.Kissinger Chair in International Relations and Foreign Policy at the Library of Congress, signals that. In January 2012, he will become senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs.
Evans worked previously at the US department of state as a senior adviser to Richard Holbrooke and Marc Grossman, successively the US special representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Evans was on loan to the state department from the British foreign office for his knowledge and expertise on Kashmir.


In the aftermath of the November 2008 Mumbai attack and before visiting India, the then British foreign secretary, David Miliband, stirred a controversy. He said solving the Kashmir issue would deny Lashkar-e-Toiba, the Pakistani terrorist group responsible for the Mumbai carnage, its "call to arms" and free Pakistan to fight al-Qaeda and Taliban militants in its tribal areas. Why Miliband was not given the Holbrooke treatment and barred from India is not clear. It is telling, however, that Miliband spent "quality time" with Rahul Gandhi in some dusty Indian village.
Alexander Evans comes from the Tony Blair-David Miliband set that wants to meddle in Kashmir. Evans is very close to non-valley Kashmiris and particularly the Mirpuris who run "independent Kashmir" campaigns in London. Evans opposes violence. He is disturbed by the violence in Jammu and Kashmir but is less vocal of the killings and oppressions in Gilgit, Baltistan and elsewhere in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.
Following 9/11, Evans distinctly was worried that Pakistan's ability to continue with its terrorism inside Jammu and Kashmir would be curtailed by Washington. Writing in Kashmir Observer on 2 October 2001, Evans wondered: "What might all these changes mean in practice? Pressure -- serious pressure -- to end militancy in Kashmir changes the equation within Kashmir completely, along with Kashmir-Islamabad and Kashmir-Delhi dealings." Evans was worried about the pressure on the terrorists and their sponsors.
He was also concerned about Hurriyat leaders. "(They) will need to do the most thinking," he warned. "A new regional order -- and a powerfully aggressive US policy on anything that smacks of terrorism -- demands a new political strategy from the APHC umbrella. This will prove difficult to craft, and the residual tensions between moderates and hardliners, nationalists and pro-Pakistanis, and the smaller constituency of political Islamists, may bubble to the surface."
Evans was concerned about the Kashmiri diaspora too. "The Kashmiri diaspora," he noted, "will never enjoy the freedoms it has since the 1960s, drawn upon to agitate and support militancy in Britain, Europe and the US. Various prominent Kashmiri exiles may find their continuing residency overseas subject to stringent restraints."
In conclusion, he stated, "Of course a solution to the Kashmir problem is needed, now more than ever, and it should be pursued... Greater US interest in the issue is welcome, therefore, and thoughtful analysis coming from the likes of the Kashmir Study Group, operated from New York, and other organizations could pave the way for a more informed dialogue among India, Pakistan, and, it is hoped, the Kashmiris, too."
One of the members of the Kashmir Study Group, Farooq Kathwari, heading the home furnishings retail giant, Ethan Allan, was appointed last September by Obama as a member of the president's Advisory Commission on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders. Kathwari says the Kashmir Study Group means to "engage in fact-finding and the analysis of possible steps toward a solution, that is, unofficial initiatives by private citizens."
According to the influential www.danielpipes.org, Kathwari's son "took leave from Harvard Medical School to go fight in Kashmir. He did not know any Urdu or anything else about the conflict except that it was a fight between good and evil. Good meaning of course Islam and Hindus were, no doubt, the evil." He died in Jammu Kashmir fighting Indian soldiers, the report said.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

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http://www.chowk.com/writers/Shivam-Vij
Writer Bio: Shivam Vij is a Delhi-based student, human rights activist, and a contributor at the mediawatch website www.thehoot.org. He runs the ZESTCurrent mailing list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/zest-india


Now you understand? JNU type, left wing, anti-national, India/Hindu bashing crook who is moving along the chain.

http://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-vij061204.htm
This led to the rise of caste-based parties such as those that we identify with Mayawati, Mulayam Singh Yadav, and Laloo Prasad Yadav. Gandhi called them 'Harijans' or the Children of God. They found it condescending, and coined the term 'Dalit', meaning oppressed. Instead of UC's stooping down and offering tea and sympathy, caste was pre-destined to be challenged from bottom-to-top. In the end Gandhi lost and Ambedkar won.

The urban elites of north India detests 'low' caste leaders, calls them names, and accuse them of being casteist. If the same elites refuse to live in an apartment full of Dalits, then that's not casteism. This is why Mayawati keeps calling everyone 'Manuwaadi', because everyone is Manuwaadi. The statues of Ambedkar that she keeps installing all over UP, earn scorn from the elites. They say it amounts to squandering public money. But for Dalits these statues symbolise power and social security. These statues across UP are vandalized every time Mayawati goes out of power. When Dalits from all
over India are brought for a BSP rally to Lucknow, they are immensely proud to see the gigantic Ambedkar statue at the Ambedkar Udayan, grandly seated exactly like Abraham Lincoln at the Lincoln Memorial. In her rallies, Mayawati declares, "Main chamarin hoon. Main chamaar ki beti hoon. I am a chamaar. I am the daughter of a chamaar." She chooses to use the derogatory term 'chamaar' as a matter of political assertion. To hear this is a moment of great pride for her Dalit "votebank". She is appealing to them to use the ballot to elect a chamaar like them into power. Although realpolitik has forced her to become less radical, there was a time when Mayawati's pet slogan was "Tilak, tarazu aur talwaar/ Maro inko jootay chaar!" My translation: 'Curse be upon the Brahmin, Baniya and Kshatriya castes.' Identity politics at its best. (My personal admiration for Mayawati also has to do with her self-appointment as 'Behen', or sister, when it would have been so easy to construct her as a 'mother goddess' in a mother-fixated nation. But the elites simply dismiss her as BMW, Behen
Mayawati.)

Mayawati, Mulayam and Laloo symbolise political empowerment of 'low' castes, without which you would have had, by now, a million Naxalite mutinies in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. But economic empowerment continues to elude large masses of Dalits. The story has just begun.



It starts with upper caste vs lower caste. Then pushes the idea od big bad India and democracy sham.

http://kafila.org/2008/12/17/a-cruel-jo ... n-kashmir/
A cruel joke called elections in Kashmir

http://kafila.org/2009/05/07/the-nation ... n-kashmir/
The nationalist Delhi media and elections in Kashmir



Now he is in a stage where Muslims hate have a right to discriminate against any one who is not a true Muslim.

Some of these were also aghast with the idea of Salman Rushdie, who they consider as being against their religion, sitting on a stage in Srinagar.



Kashmir is a place where people live under the shadow of the gun, their political grievances against the Indian state silenced with draconian laws, criminalisation of dissent and heavy militarisation. You can get two years in jail without charge for a Facebook status update, a pamphlet, a mass gathering, a call for strike. Around the time the Harud controversy was gaining momentum, the Jammu and Kashmir Police beat up over several hours a photojournalist, allegedly because they didn't like his work on the AlJazeera website.

Now, a group of people from the Indian capital decide to go to the place described above, to hold a literary festival, and announce that the festival would be "apolitical". Were Kashmiri writers and journalists, including some acclaimed ones, wrong in feeling offended?


How dare people from Indian capital come to Srinagar? Look at the connotations.


The open letter, signed initially by fourteen people including me, was published on 25 August. It said, "Our concerns are also heightened by reports that the festival is sought to be denoted as being an 'apolitical' event, that, yet, people will be free to speak what they want and that no one has the right to deny Kashmiris a chance to listen to writers. Beyond the absurdity of asserting that art and literature has nothing to do with politics, our issue is precisely that people are not allowed to speak their minds in Kashmir." The open letter did not use the word boycott, did not urge anyone to not attend it, did not ask for it to be cancelled. It did say, "We would firmly support the idea of a literary/artistic festival in Kashmir if we were convinced that its organising was wholly free from state interference and designs, and was not meant to give legitimacy to a brutal, repressive regime."

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby rohitvats » 09 Sep 2011 21:28

^^^It is a great 'dhurbhagya' of motherland to have fvkers like him...the right to free speech and contrary opinion/dissent is greatly misused by these choo#@*s....simply feel like shoving a bamboo up their musharraf....

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby negi » 09 Sep 2011 21:34

Come on , Babool is more like it. :wink:

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sanjeevpunj » 09 Sep 2011 21:41

Some organisations that are responsible for Internal Security must keep a list of these paper tigers for future use when needed.They cannot be wished away.

Btw I did a whois lookup about http://www.thehoot.org and here are the results.
Registrant Contact Information:
Name: Sevanti Ninan
Organization: Sevanti Ninan
Address 1: 180, Media Centre
City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
Zip: 122002
Country: IN
Phone: +1.6674797
Email: netbharatiyan@hotmail.com

Administrative Contact Information:
Name: Sevanti Ninan
Organization: Sevanti Ninan
Address 1: 180, Media Centre
City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
Zip: 122002
Country: IN
Phone: +1.0124356806
Fax: +1.0124355953
Email: netbharatiyan@hotmail.com

Technical Contact Information:
Name: Sevanti Ninan
Organization: Sevanti Ninan
Address 1: 180, Media Centre
City: Gurgaon
State: Haryana
Zip: 122002
Country: IN
Phone: +1.0124356806
Fax: +1.0124355953
Email: netbharatiyan@hotmail.com

Further, Sevanti Ninan is a columnist from N Delhi.Media critic, author, editor of http://www.thehoot.org, and Honorary Secretary, The Media Foundation

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby hnair » 10 Sep 2011 03:02

I remembered an old BENIS post about "Mass Graves" found by the usual suspects chaperoned by a Paki gent and dear departed Grand Ayatollah N^3 pointing out the "upcoming billion plus genocide allover India" on a similar vein.

That was back in 2009. I thought that thing got buried. But looks like it was restructured and resurrected


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sum » 13 Sep 2011 08:54

Senior Kashmir journalist alleges assault, writes to Omar

David Devadas, a senior journalist who has covered Kashmir for the last 25 years, has sought Chief Minister Omar Abdullah's intervention in ensuring his safety after a “brutal assault” by a police escort here on September 5.


Giving details of the incident, Mr. Devadas wrote: “I was crossing the Rambagh bridge in my car around 6 p.m. on September 5 in heavy traffic, which did not allow my vehicle to make progress down the road. I heard a loud bang at the back of my car. I realised that it had been hit by some men who were coming behind in a Maruti Gypsy, a security vehicle. Behind them was a white car flying the national flag and another Gypsy behind that. Those who were in this convoy had apparently got the impression that my car was obstructing their way, and became angry with me. Immediately after hitting my car from behind, this convoy swerved into the lane to the left. The convoy moved forward a few yards at high speed but then had to stop owing to traffic in that lane too.”

“At the next turn, a traffic policeman stopped my vehicle. I was told to hand over the vehicle. I asked them why they wanted my vehicle but they insisted that I give it to them. Then they told me to wait until men from the police station came there. I was kept waiting there for a long time. I explained to them that I was on my way to meet an ex-MP and needed to hurry, but they were oblivious to my pleas,” he wrote. “In an effort to seek some clarity, I called the Inspector-General of Police, Kashmir Range, S.M. Sahai, from my mobile phone. The man who answered said he was the IG's PA. I conveyed my predicament to him and requested him to convey my request to the IG to call me back.

“In the meantime, the men who had been in the escort jeeps returned in one of those vehicles and assaulted and abused me. One of them snatched my mobile phone. I kept asking for it to be returned but they continued hitting me using their hands and metal lathis. They were also kicking me. This physical violence coupled with abuses continued, and they falsely accused me of having made a jaanleva hamla (lethal attack) on them when their convoy passed my car. This outrageous allegation was their excuse to use physical violence against me,” he wrote attaching two pictures showing bruises on his body.

“They further made a baseless allegation that I had a pistol. I do not own any pistol and I made it clear to them. On mentioning that I was a journalist, they threatened that they would teach me a lesson in the police station. Further, they continued to use profanities and issued threats,” said Mr. Devadas

Who is this guy?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby RamaY » 13 Sep 2011 21:52

I want J&K CM (or PM) post is RESERVED for the religious minorities of the state, Buddhists, Hindus etc, to demonstrate the secular nature of Islamic majority and our national constipation... oops constitution.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Jarita » 13 Sep 2011 22:52

^^^ The J&K CM is spreading secularitis with a leading news anchor from his state

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Mahendra » 14 Sep 2011 02:29

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/kashm ... herstories

Abdulla Uni shot dead in Kashmir

may this a55soul Rust is Pi55


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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Vikas » 14 Sep 2011 09:49

RamaY wrote:I want J&K CM (or PM) post is RESERVED for the religious minorities of the state, Buddhists, Hindus etc, to demonstrate the secular nature of Islamic majority and our national constipation... oops constitution.


Yeah Right! What about oppressed ,depressed, suppressed people of Kashmir especially the valley.
Do you want to take away this insignificantly small reason that they are not throwing more stones at you. You are a wolf(saffron) in a wolf''s clothing. We denounce you :)

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Pranay » 14 Sep 2011 16:44

http://india.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/ ... ?ref=world

Indian Police Say Terror Chief Killed In Kashmir
By HARI KUMAR

Police in Indian-administered Kashmir said they killed a top officer of a Pakistan-based terrorist group in a gun battle yesterday.

Azhar Malik, alias Abdullah Ooni, a senior commander of Lashkar-e-Taiba, was shot after police surrounded a house where he hid in the town of Sopore, district police chief Imtiaj Hussain said in a telephone interview.

Mr. Malik crossed over to India during the 2005 earthquake, Mr. Hussain said, from Punjab Province in Pakistan, and has been operating as a commander of Lashkar in Kashmir since then.


Police cordoned off the area around the house where he was hiding after acting on a tip. A gun battle ensued on Tuesday afternoon. “When challenged, he came out firing at the police and was killed” when the police fired, Mr. Hussain said. Police recovered an AK-47 rifle, a pistol and other ammunition from his hiding spot, he said.

Mr. Malik, who operated in Kashmir as Abdullah Ooni, was involved in at least 20 cases of terrorist activities, the police chief said.

The latest incident he masterminded was the killing, by a bomb, of Maulana Shoukat Ahmad Shah, a moderate separatist religious leader in the Kashmir Valley in April, the police chief said.


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