J&K News and Discussion-2011

vipins · Post by **vipins** » 07 Sep 2014 16:30

PM Narendra Modi offers assistance for relief operation in flood-hit Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir

In a humanitarian gesture, Prime Minister Narendra Modi today offered all possible assistance to Pakistan for carrying out relief operations in the flood- ravaged Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK)

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 07 Sep 2014 20:59

Folks please collect all pictures of the relief efforts in J&K in this thread for future analysis.

Thanks,

ramana

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Sep 2014 21:52

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news ... st-4179527
fotos

Beggar nation Pak Nawaz Sharief offer help to India for flood relief

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 07 Sep 2014 22:04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTM5MY2kd7E

Check the comments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Ip9R3efn8
Check the mil rescue ops

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 08 Sep 2014 04:57

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 08 Sep 2014 06:06

Hehe, his time is coming along with all his other muslim brethren in the valley who harbor these thoughts.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 08 Sep 2014 06:24

^^ Why does his Allah not send boats, onlee water, heh?

Or perhaps the Indian army can let Allah help them.

PS Poor devil has sure put on the pounds worrying about the Indian occupation.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 08 Sep 2014 07:34

^^^

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 08 Sep 2014 20:20

What is this obsession with Kashmir, or Indo-pak thaw when the whole state is flooded. One portion of of Punjab is also affected.
More:
link

About 50,000 pilgrims are stuck en route to Vaishno Devi ..
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Almost all 10 district in Jammu region are affected. River Jhelum and many other streams were swollen and had inundated most areas in five districts of Kashmir.
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the total number of deaths in the Jammu region has gone up to 100 ..
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Seems Jammu is much more affected by floods. Kashmir seems to have received a lot more attention.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 08 Sep 2014 21:12

India TSP equal equal

http://www.trust.org/item/20140908084741-6h2oo/

vivek.rao · Post by **vivek.rao** » 08 Sep 2014 21:24

Jhujar wrote:BJP in Kashmir?
Old Green Snake Of Mumbai
Sampooran Haramkhoran Link

THE Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) is out to form a government in Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) after the elections to the Srinagar assembly in the winter. Its slogan is “44-plus”. The assembly has 87 seats — 46 are from the Kashmir Valley; 37 from Jammu and four from Ladakh. In the election to the Lok Sabha last May the ruling National Conference was trounced.The People’s Democratic Party won all three seats from the Valley while BJP won both seats from Jammu province and the solitary seat from Ladakh. BJP led in as many as 27 assembly segments out of the 41 Jammu and Ladakh combined. Of the former six districts of Jammu only two and a half have a Hindu majority — Jammu and Kathua and a part of Udhampur.However, Doda, Poonch and Rajouri have a Muslim majority. Ladakh’s Leh district has a Buddhist majority and Kargil a Muslim one. The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh was always in favour of trifurcation of J&K.Within days of the BJP government assuming office in May, the union home ministry prepared a classified note stating that the centre would shift its focus from the Valley to Jammu and Ladakh. The idea was to “treat Jammu & Kashmir as one unit and not single out Kashmir. There has to be a cohesive policy linking … Jammu, Kashmir and Ladakh”.
The BJP refuses to reckon with the deep alienation in Kashmir.It meant frenzied attempts to ensure the return of Kashmiri Pandits to the Valley to contain the latter politically. It was a Congress minister in Chief Minister Omar Abdullah’s cabinet, Sham Lal Sharma, who asserted: “There is nothing in the constitution which prevents a Hindu from becoming the chief minister. The next chief minister should be a Hindu. There is nobody to take care of the interests of the Jammu region.”
But the government rests on Congress support which has been indispensable to forming a coalition. The Congress has a base in Jammu.BJP is out to break the format. Its president and Prime Minister Modi’s right-hand man, Amit Shah, said recently that “the time had come” for a “nationalist government” in J&K. The people should “throw out” the Abdullah as well as the Mufti dynasties. “The BJP government will help to get justice for Jammu, as the various governments have meted out step-motherly treatment to the region.” He was launching ‘Mission 44-plus’.The language will become even more explicit when Modi descends into the election campaign, with Amit Shah. Regional chauvinism will be identified with religious sentiment, leaving J&K more polarised than ever.In the last decades the BJP worked hard on the Kashmiri Pandit migrants living outside J&K; Moti Kaul, president of the All India Kashmiri Samaj and a BJP man, claims that there are 4,00,000 eligible Pandit voters of whom only 1,26,000 are registered.Constituencies have been identified in which they have a significant presence. They are Habba Kadal, Sopore, Tral and Anantnag in the Valley. In Jammu, the BJP aims at constituencies in which the communal ratio is almost equal. It has identified at least 10 constituencies in the Valley in which Kashmiri Pandits hold the key. Its hopes rest on the Pandits’ vote and success of Syed Ali Shah Geelani’s call for boycott of the elections.
In 2008, his call yielded eight crucial seats in Srinagar to Omar Abdullah to help him form a government. He is unlikely to flinch from such a course now even if it means the success of the BJP’s 44-plus.A low turnout by separatists coupled with sizeable voting by the Pandits will assure the BJP the required seats in the Valley. The calculation is — 41 seats in Jammu and Ladakh and at least three in the Valley to get the 44 out of 87 seats needed to form a government.The BJP is playing with fire. It refuses to reckon with the deep alienation in the Valley. In an interview to Muzamil Jaleel, Omar Abdullah said, “If there is a breakdown of electricity, people come out on the streets to protest and start shouting slogans of azadi. I tried my level best but there are lots of things beyond my control”.A month later on Aug 27, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq said the same thing. “There’s pain and instability. One incident would push it back to square one. Alienation and anger among Kashmiri youth have increased. If dialogue is discredited [cancellation of talks between the Indian and Pakistan foreign secretaries] it would push people to hard-liners”.The Modi government has no plans for a meaningful dialogue with the Kashmiris, still less, with Pakistan. The challenge before Kashmir’s leaders, unionists and separatists alike is to devise a strategy which channelises the alienation into a powerful direction and, in the immediate future, resoundingly defeat the BJP’s nefarious plans.

These ba$tards live in India, loot India and mofos plot every second to destroy India, helping Pakis/Islamists/terrorists.

They need to be castrated.

sunnyP · Post by **sunnyP** » 09 Sep 2014 02:08

dipak · Post by **dipak** » 09 Sep 2014 03:04

Now where are the stone-pelters, slogan shouting, hurrirats - people always abusing India?
Why don't they beg for help from their masters across the border?
The same Indian Army, accused by them of committing all sorts of imaginary crimes, now coming to their rescue and these people swallowing the help unabashedly?
And these same people not allowing Indian tiranga hoisting at Lal chowk ...shameless, opportunist people.
Nowhere to be seen are likes of Shabbir Shah, Yasin Malik, Sajjad Lon, Syed Ali Shah Jilani ...didn't hear them much on the media either.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 09 Sep 2014 03:27

THE AVERAGE POPULATION PER MLA SEAT IN JAMMU IS MORE THAN THAT OF KASHMIR. THIS INJUSTICE IS NOT BEING RECTIFIED IS THE SEAT REORGANISATION WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LAST ELECTION TIME ITSELF. PLEASE TWIIT FACEBOOK AND INFORM GOI ON MYGOV.

NO ELECTIONS WITHOUT PROPER REPRESENTATION TO JAMMU AND LADDAKH REGIONS.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 09 Sep 2014 07:00

vivek.rao wrote:They need to be castrated.

Again?

Ramu · Post by **Ramu** » 09 Sep 2014 16:14

#JKfloods Army has evacuated 4000 people from Srinagar till now, including Nepal ambassador, his delegation & 28-member Pak golf team.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 09 Sep 2014 17:30

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 09 Sep 2014 18:20

Guys, one collateral benefit if you want to call it that resulting from the India TSP equal equal perception on Kashmir floods is that it establishes unequivocally that the "independence option" is unsustainable. Recall, the Jihadi terrorists in the valley and their "secular" patrons in India and west always claim that KMs are not Islamic fascists but seeking Independence from big baad oppressive India. Well, these pictures of Indian army rescuing even the vegetarian terrorist show how inextricable linked the valley is with India.

vipins · Post by **vipins** » 09 Sep 2014 19:21

J&K floods: Locals snatch away NDRF boats hampering rescue operations

Link

archan · Post by **archan** » 09 Sep 2014 21:33

Great images on India TV showing helicopter rescue ops. I have seen something like this for the first time. Old women, kids, and the young being lifted up tens of feet above suspended by rope/jackets and brought in to the military helicopter. Great great job by the army and govt. Still lots to do...
Good thing is that the rain will let off for the next 4 days and hopefully most of the over 4L people will be rescued.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 09 Sep 2014 21:50

Sadly I don't have any good thing to say...Why save a scorpion whose nature is to bite.
Does anyone here thinks that even a single KM will be thankful to Indian Army and not kick them in the guts when the first opportunity arises.
Helping a thankless ungrateful inbred is waste of help and may comeback to bite in the future.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 09 Sep 2014 21:54

CRamS wrote:Guys, <snip> KMs are not Islamic fascists but seeking Independence from big baad oppressive India. Well, these pictures of Indian army rescuing even the vegetarian terrorist show how inextricable linked the valley is with India.

I would have cheered if this self confessed murderer of IAF officers and of KP's would have been dropped in Jhelum River rather than rescuing him.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 09 Sep 2014 21:57

What happened to Yasin Malik? Every pic I see of him he has the same "WTF is that?" look.... Ok, I can understand his surprise at the pace of change in India with regard to J&K but surely even the surprises can't be that surprising any more...

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 09 Sep 2014 22:34

VikasRaina wrote:Sadly I don't have any good thing to say...Why save a scorpion whose nature is to bite.
Does anyone here thinks that even a single KM will be thankful to Indian Army and not kick them in the guts when the first opportunity arises.
Helping a thankless ungrateful inbred is waste of help and may comeback to bite in the future.

Oh yes, the KMs, and their jihadi harried rats will spin it par excellence, and will be helped along by TSP, Indian Bakaras, and pee pee c etc. Basically, they will say since Indian army is in "occupation", they did what was expected, but that doesn't resolve the "core issue". Recall, when elections in J&K were a resounding success, the b@stards arrayed against India had the gall to spread the poison that the elections were only about which day to collect garbage, some minor economic issues etc, but the elections didn't address the "alienation" of the KMs. Yeah right, "addressing" that means giving into their "azaadi" fantasies. Bloody fascists.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 09 Sep 2014 22:38

vir sanghvi ‏@virsanghvi 1h

Am I the only guy to be offended by the Mirwaiz's weasel-like refusal to thank Indian soldiers for risking their lives to rescue Kashmiris?

Forget Mirwaiz ..when did vir bai have a change of heart .. calling Mirwaiz weasel like ...

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Sep 2014 22:57

There is a Kureel cartoon on the J&K floods that sums up the situation very well.

Sumeet · Post by **Sumeet** » 09 Sep 2014 23:04

Post it here Ramana.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 09 Sep 2014 23:21

Its on twitter and I don't know how.

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OK found it in NitiCentral

jamwal · Post by **jamwal** » 09 Sep 2014 23:54

I had family members stuck in Srinagar who managed to get out of city only with the help of army. Civil administration is good only for leeching off central govt. BTW, infrastructure in Jammu has suffered quite a bit, but thankfully Jammu city has escaped any major damage. But villages in upper reaches have suffered. Communications are still cut off, so no idea of conditions there.

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 10 Sep 2014 05:04

I have posted some pics here
http://imgur.com/MhGIT16,XMxVod2,QZ26jD ... ,lKevAd6#0

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 10 Sep 2014 05:06

http://imgur.com/o5agBqo,UibSM4T,o6GKiQx,PQhl09a

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 10 Sep 2014 05:08

Anantha · Post by **Anantha** » 10 Sep 2014 05:09

member_28539 · Post by **member_28539** » 10 Sep 2014 11:12

Anantha wrote:

I Honestly believe that this was a good opportunity to get rid off few of these scums

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habal · Post by **habal** » 10 Sep 2014 11:41

Someone on twitter can ask him what conventions does his biradar Islam-pasand sharia pasand ISIS do for it's occupied ?

OR

whether the occupier in this case should follow norms as established by sharia-pasand ISIS.

Kashi · Post by **Kashi** » 10 Sep 2014 11:56

The "occupied" showing their true nature by attacking the relief workers.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 10 Sep 2014 13:14

Jammu and Kashmir floods: Angry locals attack, heckle NDRF jawans during relief operations in Srinagar

An NDRF jawan on Wednesday was attacked by angry locals here while few other personnel of the force were heckled as they were rendering relief and rescue operations in the flood-hit areas. Officials said a National Disaster Response Force trooper received severe injuries on his hand when the locals attacked him

So difficult for these people to control thier Asuric emotions/energy even when someone is helping them.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 10 Sep 2014 13:38

Once again, Why are we helping these ungrateful traitors instead of wishing them black plague ?

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 10 Sep 2014 13:40

Why does it feel like as if floods have damaged only Kashmir and Jammu is enjoying warm summer sunshine when you goto media outlets.

member_28539 · Post by **member_28539** » 10 Sep 2014 13:49

habal wrote:Someone on twitter can ask him what conventions does his biradar Islam-pasand sharia pasand ISIS do for it's occupied ?

OR

whether the occupier in this case should follow norms as established by sharia-pasand ISIS.

I am on it!