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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby tsarkar » 26 Aug 2016 16:47

The use of children & teenagers is indicative of planned and organized agitation. This is what happens when you open borders in the name of peace and trade.

There is sustained indoctrination where the mosques preach de-humanizing Indians and children are brainwashed.

Since the parents have been unable to raise their children properly and send them to agitations rather than schools, such children should be adopted by the state and sent to re-education schools in rural Maharashtra or Karnataka or Andhra Pradesh.

Just announcement of this policy will stop parents giving children on hire to agitators.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Gagan » 26 Aug 2016 17:39

Muzaffar Hussain Baig Full Speech Over Kashmir Unrest | Lok Sabha | Parliament Session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=998wLnLTKDU

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Gagan » 26 Aug 2016 17:42

Don't want to promote barkha bano, but here is the interview with sajjad lone, where he kicks barkha's butt soundly, and squarely blames congress I and Omar abdulla for the current unrest in J&K. He also blames NDTV for fanning the flames.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZwqLJUPy6w

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby ShauryaT » 26 Aug 2016 19:21

Lone will sing the other way, when aligned with Congress. India is trying to manage this issue the way the British managed their colonial rule with India. The result was not pretty for the British. Forget managing Pakistan, I want our politicians to manage the safety of those NIIT students, who get kicked for raising the Indian flag. We need some hard political moves here to supplement our military.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Gagan » 26 Aug 2016 20:12

If there is a rumour that a chemical is being sprayed by police at riots that will take away their potency or there is a chance they will be rendered sterile, this will give pause to all the testosterone in their blood.

This thingie about libido, potency and sterility is an issue that trumps every thing else, all haramigiri will fall by the wayside.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby chetak » 26 Aug 2016 23:47

J&K CM Mehbooba Mufti explains the difference between 2010 and 2016 violence in Kashmir.

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Postby Gagan » 27 Aug 2016 00:43

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby manjgu » 27 Aug 2016 12:45

how about chopping palms of stone pelters? sharia law in full flow?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby arun » 27 Aug 2016 14:36

X Posted from the Indian Foreign Policy thread.

Our MEA should not accept Taqiyya and Kitman reeking explanations that OIC pronouncements on Jammu & Kashmir somehow do not represent the views of the individual Mohammadden majority countries on the Jammu & Kashmir issue.

As a start, our MEA should as a matter of course summon individual members of OIC and lodge protest for any pronouncement by the OIC on J&K that is not to our liking:

Transcript of Media Briefing by Secretary (ER), JS (BM) and Official Spokesperson (August 26, 2016)
August 27, 2016 ……………………………

Question: What has been Egypt’s stand in OIC on the issue of Kashmir?

Secretary Economic Relations, Shri Amar Sinha: That is an issue that we will raise with them. You see, most of our partners, they have very good relations with us, but when it comes to OIC, they allow somebody else to run the agenda, so that is something that we are trying to change because we would want our friends to take a stand. They have to look at the issue and understand that OIC has no locus standi absolutely on Jammu & Kashmir, it’s an internal matter and they appreciate that. They take a public posture, but what they tell us privately, there is slight gap and we would like that what they tell us privately, they should also say publicly and take a stand.

From here:

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby CRamS » 27 Aug 2016 19:16

Guys, I sense that ModiJi/Mufti-led BJP/PDP are slowly but steadily inching ahead of the TSP/Cong/NC combine. Lets not lose sight of the game being played. TSP combined its terror Intifada style strategy post Wani's elimination. Valley went into a tail spin. Cong/NC traitors seized an opportunity to pile on BJP/PDP for this. If one were from Mars, one would have been conned by the duplicity as though Kashmir valley's pains started after BJP/PDP formed a coalitions govt. In fact, I recall during the initial days of the valley turmoil, one of Thappad's Paki bed mates told him in an interview that TSP is relying on Indian democracy to highlight the "atrocities" going on. Paki Cong dance started in synch. (I have not read a report per se, but I heard Doggy Singh even referred to Kashmir valley in TSP terms, i.e., "Indian occupied Kashmir").

Anyway, coming back to the issue at hand, I think 2 key factors are not playing out as bad as they usually do from India's PoV: 1) The response of the PDP govt, in particular Mufti and Beg is almost statesmanlike, and 2) Unkil's role. He has not played the usual diabolical games of encouraging the Harried rats and TSP. Not that Unkil is unhappy with India's travails, but at least he has not poured petrol on fire. Combined with BJP/PDP's reasonable political moves in the valley, Unkil is a tad mute.

As I predicted a while back, what we are seeing is India Vs India playing out. I don't expect Cong to back down, but my hunch is that they will get exposed. Now TSP might come to their aid by conducting a spectacular attack, and if as expected, there is the standard cycle, TSP denies, offers to "investigate" and crap like that, the issues will get muddled, and will give Cong another stick to beat ModiJi with. So basically, the game going on is TSP using India's opposition to inject itself into the valley as a stake holder.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby chetak » 27 Aug 2016 20:58

The pakis from India and from across the border are specifically targeting mehbooba mufti and her poor leadership and this seems to have touched a raw nerve in her.

Never have I seen any kashmiri politician denounce the pakis and the separatists in such crystal clear language as well as irrefutable logic. Something major seems to have happened to set off such a blasphemous tirade by a valley leader.

Very few of her PDP gang members have publicly supported her bar sajjad lone, who is not even from her party, by also speaking the plain truth on cashmere and the congi paki nexus.

omar the abdullah of the musical beds fame, has truly revealed himself for the unscrupulous incompetent, anti national prick that he actually is.

paki pasand burkha type quislings have not said anything to help MM but all seem to be backing the separatists and screaming for the Modi govt to talk to both the separatists as well as the pakis. The pakis have panicked and seem to have pulled out all the stops to get a favorable conclusion for themselves by using the Indian media and paki pasand Indian politicians.

There are enough and more quislings in the PDP as well as the J&K assembly. This all party delegation is a dangerous development allowing the commies and naxals as well as the Indian pakis free reign and allowing unrestricted entry into this mess when they all have no dog in the fight or even the mandate to participate..

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby svinayak » 28 Aug 2016 01:42

CRamS wrote:

Anyway, coming back to the issue at hand, I think 2 key factors are not playing out as bad as they usually do from India's PoV: 1) The response of the PDP govt, in particular Mufti and Beg is almost statesmanlike, and 2) Unkil's role. He has not played the usual diabolical games of encouraging the Harried rats and TSP. Not that Unkil is unhappy with India's travails, but at least he has not poured petrol on fire. Combined with BJP/PDP's reasonable political moves in the valley, Unkil is a tad mute.


Uncle cannot do anything to take a stand. Uncle has a state to state relations with India. Indian territorial and state interest has to be supported and they cannot go against India.

Uncle were taking advantage of Indian political ignorance to interfere in the Kashmir issue and support Pak. Even in 2015 there was statements from SD about Kashmir when they have nothing to do with Kashmir and Indian state interest. Even after Indian nuclear deal the GOTUS allowed Pak agencies in US to interfere in kashmir, lobby against India and fund anti India media reports in western media

This is not seen in any where in the world other than Pak US collaboration for the last 40 years

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby svinayak » 28 Aug 2016 02:11

chetak wrote:

paki pasand burkha type quislings have not said anything to help MM but all seem to be backing the separatists and screaming for the Modi govt to talk to both the separatists as well as the pakis. The pakis have panicked and seem to have pulled out all the stops to get a favorable conclusion for themselves by using the Indian media and paki pasand Indian politicians.
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Pak govt will be seen as directly interfering in the Indian elected govt in JK

Pak govt will be accused of cross border interference

Pak govt will be implicated as directly instigating and starting the violence in JK

The current situation is that the seperatists have become orphans
Political parties have the upper hand

the Media and Cong are trying to reduce the advantage of the elected govt

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby svinayak » 28 Aug 2016 02:13

svinayak wrote:
chetak wrote:

paki pasand burkha type quislings have not said anything to help MM but all seem to be backing the separatists and screaming for the Modi govt to talk to both the separatists as well as the pakis. The pakis have panicked and seem to have pulled out all the stops to get a favorable conclusion for themselves by using the Indian media and paki pasand Indian politicians.
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Pak govt will be seen as directly interfering in the Indian elected govt in JK

Pak govt will be accused of cross border interference

Pak govt will be implicated as directly instigating and starting the violence in JK

The current situation is that the seperatists have become orphans
Political parties have the upper hand. The elected govt has the upper hand

the Media and Cong are trying to reduce the advantage of the elected govt

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby eklavya » 28 Aug 2016 02:37

http://indianexpress.com/article/opinio ... t-2998136/

Why is this idiot writing this garbage? Why does CPR and IE give a platform to this idiot?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Lilo » 28 Aug 2016 03:43

Time has come to lay ground for a West Bank like progressive occupation & assimilation of Kashmir valley.
After repealing article 370 , start settlement of enterprising Indians in designated Kashmiri Pandit & Army enclaves.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby asprinzl » 28 Aug 2016 07:51

Hello Gentlemen/Ladie,

I have not posted in a few years now....

Until Indian government grows the cojones to allow Indian immigration into JnK to eventually dilute the power of the Valley seperatists....the wound will continue to boil. India should do like what China is doing in their Northwest region....active Sinification of the Turkiclands. So until the Indification process begins.....the costs will continue to pile....

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby dnivas » 28 Aug 2016 08:23

wow welcome back asprinzl. used to read intently your posts.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby asprinzl » 28 Aug 2016 08:34

Ha...thanks. Hopefully I will post more in coming days. Miss the old BR format which I was very comfortable with. I guess I am old school now. Peace.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby wig » 28 Aug 2016 15:02

http://www.dailyexcelsior.com/azadi-seekers-wont-say/
a good read
What the Azadi-seekers wont say by Suman K Sharma
For the last few weeks we have been subjected to a cacophony of ‘azadi’ of Kashmir, so much so that the gullible are led to believe in the blatant lie. What is shocking is that even national dailies have jumped on to the bandwagon.
But the moot question is where do the proponents of ‘azadi’ actually stand. The fervour of these zealots has rendered them deaf and mute to the outcries of the Gujjars, the Bakkarwals, the Budhists, the Sikhs and of course the Hindus, particularly the Kashmiri Pandits ousted from the Valley against the stratagems and open violence of the Sunnis of the Valley.
The Valley is not the whole of J&K, nor do the Sunni Muslims of Valley have any exclusive right to silence and speak on behalf of the people living in 85 per cent of the State. The ‘azadi’-seekers won’t say this. They won’t admit how a handful of Kashmiri leaders systemically robbed Kashmiri Pandits of their estates by 1952 Big Land Abolition Act, the Debt Reconciliation Boards and such other legislations and administrative orders. They won’t say how the Valley’s much vaunted social fabric has been rent asunder by the successive Delimitation Committees whereby in places like Anantnag, Kashmiri Pandits were reduced from 30-40 per cent of the population to just an insignificant 0.01 per cent. They won’t let it be known to the rest of the world that under the Indian Constitution, Muslims in J&K, though in majority (which is the main plank of the separatists’ argument) enjoy the status of a minority. They won’t acknowledge that even in routine matters of compensation for damage to property, Kashmiri Pandits have been grossly short-changed. They won’t say that as an aftermath of the killing of Tika Ram Taploo on 14 September, 1989, as many as four lakh Kashmiri Pandits were compelled to leave their homesteads. They won’t say, in short, that there has been a steady and unabated process of silencing and elimination of voices opposed to the proponents of ‘azadi’ in and outside the Valley in J&K.
Much was made in the media about pro-Pak elements in the rural areas of Kashmir celebrating the National Day of Pakistan on 14 August. Do such people want ‘azadi’ or to join Pakistan? On a visit to Kupwara, this writer had a chance to see the Aman Setu on the Kishen Ganga, that connects our side of Kashmir with ‘Azad’ Kashmir. While on our side, the J&K flag of a white ploughshare against a red background flew proudly side by side with the national Tricolour, the other side had only the Pakistan flag. So much for the Kashmiri ‘azadi’!
The problem with the loud-mouths of ‘azadi’ is that they do not want to listen to the voices of reason. They think it is only them and no one else who should be heard. If Dr Jitender Singh lays bare before the nation their nefarious designs, they castigate him for ‘raising a new bogey of intellectual terrorism.’ But the fact of the matter is that Dr Singh is not only a Union Minister but also a son of the soil. Why should not he have raised his voice in the Parliament as a true representative of his people?
Here are a few glaring instances of intellectual terrorism from a national daily. A few weeks back, the paper carried on its front page a photograph, obviously photo-shopped, of Lal Chowk, Srinagar. The stark picture showed a gun pointing at a dove on the ground. It evoked the hue and cry of the alleged harshness of the security personnel towards the separatists ‘doves’. Can we forget that as many as 3,780 security personnel were hurt while exercising extraordinary restraint towards stone-pelting ‘doves’?
Then, on 8 August 2016, the same paper carried an opinion piece by a totally alienated 23-year old woman, fresh from a US university with a BA degree, alleging that “Kashmir has been independent and existed outside of Indian nation-state for a long time now.’ There was another gem of wisdom from her in her chaste phoren English: “Today, if there is a silver lining (meaning thereby the prevailing turmoil in the Valley) amid its bleeding and mourning, it is that it inches closer to standing independent of those forces that act, oppress and deceive from within.” If it is not an incitement to mob violence than what else is? Yet again, the paper carried a news-story about how Gelaani ‘sahab’ had snubbed the parents of a sub inspector who had gone to the separatist leader to apologise for his alleged brutality. It could have been the paper’s compulsion to carry the story but why on the front page? What was the motive behind that? Obviously, to spread terror in the hearts of the kin of the security personnel, what else!
Mr Vinay Sahasrabuddhe, vice president BJP and MP Rajya Sabha in his article WHAT THE NATION SAYS (Indian Express, 17 August, 2016) has raised some salient issues about holding a dialogue with the sympathisers of Kashmiri ‘azadi’: One, is Srinagar a foreign capital? Two, should we allow Kashmir to secede? Mr Sahasrabuddhe has pointed out in this context that it was the people of the state themselves who foreclosed the option (to secede) through Articles 3,5 and 147 of the J&K constitution. Three, will Jammu and Ladakh also go with this secessionist streak? Last, but not the least, if a huge non-Jammu-region population can freely settle itself down at Bathindi near Jammu, why aren’t non-Valley Kashmiris able to gather the courage to settle down near Srinagar?
To paraphrase Mr Sahasrabuddhe, MP, Kashm-iriyat is important so long as it is in sync with Hindustaniyat. Mobsters and stone-pelters cannot be allowed to hold the nation at ransom.
The sooner this is understood, the better it would be for all the stake-holders.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby CRamS » 28 Aug 2016 18:31

Lots of good points above, but be it dealing with TSP, or their proxies in the valley, or Paki quislings like Congoons, NC, Burka, Thappad, Malhotra, Mehta, Shukla (this punk was in the Indian army? What was his track record?), assorted valley Paki voices in the media like Shujaat Bhukari etc (the list is huge), the key question in my mind is whether India has the requite state power: military and diplomatic to do what it takes. As I point out above, BJP/PDP have the edge now, having blunted the immediate cacophony of its adversaries. But now, the Paki quizlings will hound ModiJi on a daily basis if he does not lay out a red carpet for the likes of Geelani, vegetarian terrorist, fukrooo, and above all, their Paki handlers.

The next wave of attacks on BJP will be that they are not having a "dialogue" with these abominations. And any dialogue with these scum will be downhill for Indian nationalists. They will make obnoxious demands which India cannot accept. But with BJP in the saddle, the "secularism" arsenal in the hands of these traitors will be used to maximum effect. In their minds, giving up the valley in slow motion (recall the MMS/Mush-rat 4-point formula that includes "joint sovereignty", and I assume Paki currency as well) is the ultimate "triumph" of Indian secularism and that alone will bring "peace" to Kashmir. My own feeling is that Pakis will gladly sign on to such a formula because the valley becomes theirs, and they can then piggy back off India's economic and other pee-pee bandwagon which once again "secularists" will gladly offer. So I go back to what I said aeons ago, what we are witnessing is "Sooth Asians" Vs "Hindu extremists". The wild card are the vast Hindu middle class. Will they be swayed by the likes of Ramya and other "globalized" elites who will be used to the hilt by the "secularists"?

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby asgkhan » 28 Aug 2016 20:16

Gagan wrote:If there is a rumour that a chemical is being sprayed by police at riots that will take away their potency or there is a chance they will be rendered sterile, this will give pause to all the testosterone in their blood.

This thingie about libido, potency and sterility is an issue that trumps every thing else, all haramigiri will fall by the wayside.



During one of the riots here in Bangalore during the 2000s, some of the criminal elements used the confusion to settle scores with the police. Unfortunately, a couple of constables died. The response from the cops was swift, brutal and deadly.

The perps were identified, taken to the station, their spines were damaged so badly, most of them left paralyzed waist down. Their supporters who gave them shelter etc had their nerves cut and damaged at strategic places which left them weak and unable to wield weapons as they had lost grip strength.

A couple of examples made of these 'youngsters' who act as guards and the stonepelters will bring down the enthu level drastically.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Gagan » 28 Aug 2016 20:25

Some people have to be made examples of - 400% agree.
No great deterrence than this.

That video I posted above about Muzzafar Hussain Baig speaking in parliament. Note what he is saying.
He says, bigger militants than Boor-han wani, worse killers have been brought into the fold, and they have contested elections afterwards.

What BS approach !
This can only have happened during 20th century dynasty-durbaar rule. This BS is not allowed in 21st century India.

This has encouraged a thousand unemployed sadak-chaap haramzadas into becoming more lawless. They all have it at the back of their minds that there is a big payoff at the end of the day, because the CONgress I and other Netas who have made a 400% mess of rule of law in J&K will come to you with increasing payoff loot down the line.
A huge part of the angst at Wani's death was that this was not the expected end he or the others had expected. They were expecting the state to come to him with offerings of money and political power. The shock was that he got a bullet in his musharraf - AoA what travesty onlee.
This nonsense has to stop!

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby sunnyP » 28 Aug 2016 21:58

Why do peaceniks like 'Sri Sri' entertain such people - I remember when he tried to reach out to ISIS not too long ago and in return they sent him a photograph of a beheaded body. :rotfl:

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Postby Aditya G » 28 Aug 2016 23:50

Gen S.A. Hasnain is in contention for governors post of J&K, replacing NN Vohra.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Sachin » 29 Aug 2016 10:44

sunnyP wrote:Why do peaceniks like 'Sri Sri' entertain such people - I remember when he tried to reach out to ISIS not too long ago and in return they sent him a photograph of a beheaded body. :rotfl:

"Triple Shri" should be just allowed to do all this. If any one gets a feeling that Kashmiri jehadis are all a peaceful lot, then let them live in their own fantasy world. I don't think this visit is going to change any thing on the ground. Unless this is an attempt by Wani senior, to kind of say that "Hey look, I am really a peaceful chap. Don't send the Army after me. Look, I even went and met Triple Shri the Hindu guru. I am not a communal person. If you still don't believe me, I may even start singing the Suprabhata hymns.".

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby prahaar » 29 Aug 2016 16:30

While many people on BRF and also on Twitter get angry with the "aa bail mujhe maar" approach of Sri Sri approaching vile Islamists (time and again), it serves at least one purpose: it helps convince a few bystander Hindus to realize the nature of the problem. I am saying this from personal experience. A Modi or Amit Shah castigating the terrorist supporters falls on deaf ears for many, since they have internalized Togadia==RSS=BJP==SS==BT==NM==AS==LET.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby Marten_b » 29 Aug 2016 17:23

It is needless grandstanding by Sri Sri. It provides legitimacy to a rabble rouser and wannabe leader who is decidedly anti-India. This is taquia on their part. There is no doubt that Wani is being coached and stage-prepped. Tomorrow, the same chap will turn around and use the hawa provided by willing media to fan the flames further in the valley.

Lone too is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby CRamS » 29 Aug 2016 19:05

Sri Sri himself is considered "communal" by the secular guardians. Recall the rakas Congoons created during the world cultural festival earlier this year.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby krisna » 29 Aug 2016 22:08

^^^^
Interesting that want senior himself came do from Kashmir to be in bengaluru with triple Sri for 2 days.
Whatever be the reason, wani senior may not change his position -may do a Taqiya.

Why can't the same be said of triple Sri. What can triple Sri other than some publicity for Taqiya also some goodwill for him and Hindus. This will not cut much ice from non Hindus. But has tremendous traction amongst some sickular Hindus to soften the "kommunla hindus". Views


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Just a reminder , amongst all kommunla Hindus he has the largest number of followers .
In fact 2nd largest followers in religious variety after pope nearing 300million.
Nothing to sneer about.

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Re: J&K News and Discussion-2011

Postby CRamS » 29 Aug 2016 23:29

First and foremost thing ModiJi must do without fail is protect the pro-India or even rational politicians aka stakeholders in the valley from TSP gun. In all the cacophony, one forgets that Indian govt has even in the past reached out. Recall, Hizbul commander Abdul Masjid Dar abjured terror and advocated talks under Indian constitution. Ditto Abdul Ghani Lone. All of them were eliminated by TSP. In the current scenario too, guys like Sajjaad Lone, Muzzafar Beg, Mufti herself etc need extreme protection form TSP and proxy b@astards. Lack of violence and in general peace and coming together of a large stakeholder of KMs to talk to Indian govt is simply not in TSP's interests. TSP banks on mayhem and its proxies playing an irredentist role. So they will pull no punches to eliminate the rational ones in the valley. Mufti's latest statement on ending terror will pi!ss TSP off mightily

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/centr ... 160829.htm

And then of course, one must watch for PDP traitors too. They may play nice to get Indian govt to talk and then back-stab India by singing separatist tune once talks start. And that includes bogus proposals like joint sovereignty with TSP, use of TSP currency in the valley etc.


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