Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Feb. 12, 2011

anandsgh · Post by **anandsgh** » 10 Mar 2011 17:32

SSridhar wrote:The slain Bhatti was a criminal: Islamabad police
They said the police have detected that Bhatti had sore relations with a man named Hector, who after having been in jail for sometime, got out a few days before the assassination. The police have involved him in investigation too. An officer of Ministry of Interior said reason behind Bhatti’s assassination can be enmity.

Investigation from all angles
Inspector General of Police (IGP) Wajid Ali Durrani confirmed that police have been investigating if the murder was a result of personal enmity. He said police will not ignore any possible factor in the investigation.

You are all mistaken... Mighty Trojans have killed Bhatti in the name of Sun god.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 10 Mar 2011 17:34

Four TTP men ‘on mission to impose Sharia’ in Karachi arrested

Four suspected terrorists of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), on a mission to forcibly impose their own version of Sharia in certain areas of the city, were arrested from the SITE area on Wednesday, police claimed.
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One of the held suspects was allegedly involved in an attack on police and intelligence officials in Sohrab Goth in January 2009,
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After a brief encounter, four suspects — Musharraf, Sher Zalee, Ahmed Ali and Hameedullah — were taken into custody. Their other accomplices — Ameer Khan Zaman, Qari Abid, Tayyab Mehsud and Fida Mehsud — fled taking advantage of the darkness and narrow lanes.
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The police recovered 10 kilograms of explosives, three Kalashnikovs, two hand grenades, smoke bombs, detonating wire, detonators, TT pistols, five kilograms of hashish and hundreds of bullets from the hideout.

During interrogation, the suspects disclosed they had buried a suicide jacket in Sohrab Goth. On digging the spot, officials recovered a prepared suicide jacket containing 22 kilograms of explosives.

Officials of intelligence agencies and the Bomb Disposal Squad were called in who, after examining the jacket, found that C-4 type explosive was used in its preparation. Six mortar shells were attached with the jacket, making it the first of its kind jacket ever found in Karachi.
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SSP Aslam Khan said they had found a hit list from the suspects on which top intelligence and police officials were named.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 10 Mar 2011 18:04

About this Sushoba Bharve, googling tells me that she is the convenor for India of "Hope in the Cities' organization. I don't know about the aims of this, but it won't be difficult to find out. Anyway, she could be contacted through: http://www.hopeinthecities.org/contact/Sushobha_Barve

I intend leaving a message for her.

sum · Post by **sum** » 10 Mar 2011 18:23

Four suspected terrorists of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), on a mission to forcibly impose their own version of Sharia in certain areas of the city, were arrested from the SITE area on Wednesday, police claimed.

Arent the police who arrested the pious wajib-ul-cattle since they are obstructing God's work?

sum · Post by **sum** » 10 Mar 2011 18:23

Sushobha Barve, Director of Centre of Dialogue and Reconciliation, says that people back home believe that if being friends with Pakistan will help develop ties, then India should be friends.

She said that after the 26/11 incident, some people said that they now understand what Pakistani families go through when facing terrorism.

Sigh, why is our country filled with such loons?

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 10 Mar 2011 18:33

Boring, boring. Same-ol', same-ol'.

Call for nukes use over India dams
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDe ... =3/10/2011

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 10 Mar 2011 18:41

Rao saab, the funny thing is just above the headline, there is Aman Ki Asha logo.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 10 Mar 2011 19:27

SSridhar wrote: The writ of the state, according to civil society, is challenged on a daily basis but the executive has turned a Nelson's eye. This is true not just in the case of fatwas issued by clerics ordaining death for people deemed blasphemers but also hate literature. Banners have mushroomed in major cities terming the author of Blasphemy, Tehmina Durrani{Now, this is something. She is currently the wife of Shahbaz Sharif. The 'bad Taliban' do not have much respect for the wives of their protectors !}, “Pakistan's Taslima Nasreen” and demanding that she be hanged.

I will not be surprised if the inner ghazi in Shahbaz Sharif wakes up one day and hangs the Paki Taslima himself.

It reminds me of an article I read in Dawn many years ago on the eve of Prophet's birthday, that a "true" muslim must put the prophet before family, himself and so on, to the extent that he can ignore even Allah.

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 10 Mar 2011 21:49

Uh oh. The secret is out that Maj. Gen. Ghayur Mehmood is an Ahmadi infidel and he needs to be wajib-cull-cattle onlee.

Fire Maj. Gen. Ghayur Mehmood
At the PakiPatriot site (don't want to post a direct link to that slime site here).

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 11 Mar 2011 00:26

Congressional resolution seeks to freeze US aid to Pakistan

A resolution introduced in the US House of Representatives seeks to freeze American aid to Pakistan, until its diplomat Raymond Davis, facing murder charges in a Lahore court is released.

"The House of Representatives calls on the Government of Pakistan to release Raymond Davis in accordance with international standards of diplomatic protocol and, until such time, all US monetary assistance to Pakistan should be frozen," says the House Resolution (no 145) introduced in the House of Representatives last week.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Mar 2011 01:14

sum wrote:
Four suspected terrorists of the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), on a mission to forcibly impose their own version of Sharia in certain areas of the city, were arrested from the SITE area on Wednesday, police claimed.
Arent the police who arrested the pious wajib-ul-cattle since they are obstructing God's work?

The match is not yet over sirji. Batting powerplay still remains.

James B · Post by **James B** » 11 Mar 2011 04:03

Spy for a spy: the CIA-ISI showdown over Raymond Davis - Christine Fair

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 11 Mar 2011 04:59

Stop projecting Pakistan as a Muslim country:

“Quaid-e-Azam, where is your Pakistan?” Asiya Nasir asked Mohammad Ali Jinnah as she stood in the Pakistan National Assembly on March 3, 2011. She is a Christian Member National Assembly (MNA), elected on a reserved seat from NA-322 (Balochistan-III). “We are treated worse than servants, our utensils are separated,” Asiya Nasir said about Christians in Pakistan today.

“Pakistan is not a country for Muslims, Pakistan is for all of us as well,” Asiya Nasir said. “The government is to blame for Shahbaz Bhatti’s murder." The committee formulated by the government to review the Aasia Bibi case was allegedly a ploy to get Shahbaz Bhatti exposed, because there were no real deliberations convened over the issue. Apparently, the government did not have any policy to resolve the crisis justly.

“Christians respect the Prophet (PBUH) of Islam...but the right-wing media commentators should stop projecting Pakistan as a Muslim country,” she said.

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 11 Mar 2011 05:24

Congressional resolution seeks to freeze US aid to Pakistan

"The House of Representatives calls on the Government of Pakistan to release Raymond Davis in accordance with international standards of diplomatic protocol and, until such time, all US monetary assistance to Pakistan should be frozen," says the House Resolution (no 145) introduced in the House of Representatives last week. The resolution moved by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, has been referred to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs for consideration.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 11 Mar 2011 05:32

^^^Would be nice if desi commentariat laughs loud and long in the comments sections of such (f)articles. Make precise predictions that nothing but nothing congress, as representing the will of the yamerican people, can do or say that will ever stop the flow of aid (some may say, ransom) to papistan. Time to rub some tiger balm in, perhaps.

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 11 Mar 2011 05:46

sushobha barve

barve kakunche doke thikanavar aahe kai?

IMO there is no point in driving sense in this brainless woman. She has been active in communal conflicts inside India (based on various Google pages) but seems to have a special soft corner for victims as long as they are not Hindus.
These kind of people thrive on being shown to be idiots. The more you show her to be an idiot, the more she believes in herself. It is the cognitive dissonance.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 11 Mar 2011 05:55

Pakistani General: Actually, The Drones Are Awesome

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 11 Mar 2011 05:59

Abhijit wrote:sushobha barve

barve kakunche doke thikanavar aahe kai?

IMO there is no point in driving sense in this brainless woman. She has been active in communal conflicts inside India (based on various Google pages) but seems to have a special soft corner for victims as long as they are not Hindus.
These kind of people thrive on being shown to be idiots. The more you show her to be an idiot, the more she believes in herself. It is the cognitive dissonance.

all these people suffer from what joker says,"misplaced sense of self-righteousness"... can't be cured..

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 11 Mar 2011 06:06

Presenting a model to India and Pakistan for conflict resolution, the French and German envoys on Tuesday recounted how the two countries, once arch rivals, managed to overcome their centuries-old enmity.

Didn't this require a devastating war and the total defeat of one side?
Didn't this require the repudiation of the governing ideology, the purging and execution of the party leaders?
In what universe is Pakistan a 'rival' of India, far less an 'arch rival'?
Who are the Pakistanis going to the gallows ?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Mar 2011 06:21

Atri wrote:
Abhijit wrote:sushobha barve

barve kakunche doke thikanavar aahe kai?

IMO there is no point in driving sense in this brainless woman. She has been active in communal conflicts inside India (based on various Google pages) but seems to have a special soft corner for victims as long as they are not Hindus.
These kind of people thrive on being shown to be idiots. The more you show her to be an idiot, the more she believes in herself. It is the cognitive dissonance.

all these people suffer from what joker says,"misplaced sense of self-righteousness"... can't be cured..

If Hindus started making wajibul cutlet out of such people this would not happen. This woman is the "Dhimmi Liberal" whom i wrote about ages ago

http://cybersurg.livejournal.com/1786.html

arun · Post by **arun** » 11 Mar 2011 07:23

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan‘s “The News“ puts the wealth of Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim in a perspective that Pakistani‘s would find easy to understand:

Net worth of world’s wealthiest human is equal to Pak foreign debt and last year’s export revenues

Let me provide “The News” with yet another perspective and point out that the net wealth of two Indians exceeded the foreign exchange Reserves of the Islamic Republic.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Forex Reserves of USD 17.3 Billion as on March 5 (Clicky) is less than the Net Wealth of Indian Billionaires Mr. L.N. Mittal at USD 31.1 Billion and Mr. Mukesh Ambani at USD 27 Billion. Pakistani’s may also want to know that a Muslim, Mr. Azim Premji has a Net Wealth just a shade below Pakistan’s Forex Reserves at USD 16.8 Billion. The Forbes List is Here.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 11 Mar 2011 08:00

Four killed, vehicles torched as Karachi burns

KARACHI: Apparently a political party-backed violence, erupted after the apex court ruled the appointment of NAB chairman as ‘null and void’, has so far claimed lives of four Karachiites and left many others injured amid incident of firing Thursday overnight, Geo News reported.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 11 Mar 2011 08:10

Pakistani lawmaker says women mentally torture men

A male Pakistani lawmaker has drawn jeers for proposing a committee to stop the "mental torture" of men by women.

Jam Tamachi Unar suggested the idea Thursday, after the assembly in Sindh province resolved to create a panel to investigate the torture of women in the country's rural areas.

The proposal drew shouts of "Shame!" from female assembly members. Most of the women stormed out of the session, while some of the men laughed.

Unar told The Associated Press that he was only joking but that it's a "bitter truth that the same way women are tortured in rural areas, men are the victims of mental torture in urban neighborhoods."

Violence against women is common in Pakistan, partly thanks to patriarchal attitudes and lax law enforcement.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Mar 2011 08:11

Pakistan's concern over threats to world cup venue.
Sending in their terrorists and also taking advantage of the situation. Not for nothing is Pakistan the most dangerous country in the world.

Pakistan on Thursday expressed concern at reports of a possible terror attack on Indian venues of the ongoing cricket World Cup. Reacting to news reports of such an attack, the Foreign Office — in a reference to anti-Pakistan statements made by the Shiv Sena — also disclosed that it had already conveyed Islamabad's concerns about “vituperative statements” being made from within India about participation of Pakistan's cricket team.

In a statement, Foreign Office spokesperson Tehmina Janjua said news reports of the conspiracy to attack match venues was evidence of the fact that terrorism had no borders.

“It is a vicious phenomenon that all must collectively confront.”

Stating that Pakistan — “itself a victim of terrorism” — took all such reports seriously, the spokesperson articulated the hope that India would make foolproof security arrangements for the World Cup.

abhik · Post by **abhik** » 11 Mar 2011 08:26

arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan‘s “The News“ puts the wealth of Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim in a perspective that Pakistani‘s would find easy to understand:

Net worth of world’s wealthiest human is equal to Pak foreign debt and last year’s export revenues

Let me provide “The News” with yet another perspective and point out that the net wealth of two Indians exceeded the foreign exchange Reserves of the Islamic Republic.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Forex Reserves of USD 17.3 Billion as on March 5 (Clicky) is less than the Net Wealth of Indian Billionaires Mr. L.N. Mittal at USD 31.1 Billion and Mr. Mukesh Ambani at USD 27 Billion. Pakistani’s may also want to know that a Muslim, Mr. Azim Premji has a Net Wealth just a shade below Pakistan’s Forex Reserves at USD 16.8 Billion. The Forbes List is Here.

^^^Jingo here will be happy only when the net worth or turnover of an Indian company will exceed packi GDP. While we are on this subject does anybody know what the annual budget of the packi federal govt. is? Just wanted to compare with Karnataka's state budget for the next year which is around 80K crore(~17b$).

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Mar 2011 08:32

Karnataka may have crossed 1 lac crore. It gave two different budgets and I was confused to total layout. TN and AP effectively crossed 1.1 lac crore since last two years. I assume maha may be very large.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 11 Mar 2011 08:33

The jingo here will be happy if India's defence budget is three times the total of Paki budget.

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 11 Mar 2011 08:34

Shiv,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Pakis ... ral_budget
budget = Pakistani Rs 325900 crores = 38b$ (at 85.4 exchange rate)

in comparison, andhra pradesh budget is Indian Rs 128000 crores =28 b$ (at 45 exchange rate)

we are quite near the indian defence budget = total pakistan budget

The union budget 2011-12, presented to the parliament on February 28, 2011, increased the defence allocation to Rs 1,64,415.49 crore ($36.03 billion)
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2268 ... a4ad9d6e2a

jrjrao · Post by **jrjrao** » 11 Mar 2011 09:23

Earth-e-Shaster says that Rehman Dawood will soon be on a freedom flight out, and that too unobjectionably, thanks to the Pakis once again showing happy willingness and eagerness to kiss the molecules of the specks of the dirt on the bottom of the shoes of the Commander, Royal Saudi Land Forces, Lt. General Abdul Rahman Bin Abdullah Bin Hamad Al-Mershed, who is currently on an urgent relief visit to a loo in Isloo.

Davis tangle towards solution
http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=80325

somnath · Post by **somnath** » 11 Mar 2011 09:34

A (somewhat predictable) piece by Cyril Almeida..

http://www.dawn.com/2011/03/11/a-grim-trajectory.html

Wht caught my attention was this

Even from the narrowest of self-interests, the current state of Pakistan is not good for the army. If you like playing golf, taking the kids out to buy the latest iPad, fancy yourself to be a real-estate investor, dabble in the stock market a bit, sit around with friends and shoot the breeze, none of what is going on is helpful.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 11 Mar 2011 09:44

Not sure this was posted ...slightly dated NPR interview of Jihadi Sethi regarding Raymond Davis.
Murder Charges Stoke Pakistani Anger At U.S.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 11 Mar 2011 09:58

Talking to the Taliban

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... he_taliban

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Mar 2011 10:41

Pentagon's quiet shift on Afghanistan war: Maybe safe havens aren't crucial

After stressing for years that removing insurgent sanctuaries in Pakistan is vital to winning the war in Afghanistan, US military officials are subtly deemphasizing the importance of that goal as realities on the ground shift.

Such comments make good strategic sense, adds Anthony Cordesman, a defense analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Pakistan’s internal stability is key to US national security interests and for that reason, it is not wise to undermine the Pakistani military.

While “winning in Afghanistan” may not be possible with large insurgent sanctuaries, Dr. Cordesman says, both the United States and Pakistan are acutely aware that “It is absolutely pointless if Pakistan becomes a failed state or not stable.”

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 11 Mar 2011 10:49

Sorry if posted before:

The Militant Challenge in Pakistan: C. Christine Fair

Main Argument

Pakistan’s use of asymmetric warfare, although dating back to 1947, did not aggressively expand beyond Kashmir until Islamabad acquired first a covert “existential” nuclear capability in the 1980s and later an overt nuclear capability in 1998. After describing the complex contemporary landscape of Islamist militancy in Pakistan and the relationship between these groups and the state, as well as between religious and political organizations, this article contends that jihad is sustained by important segments of Pakistani society that endorse “militant jihad” in general and specific militant groups and operations in particular. Given Pakistan’s enduring security concerns about India’s ascent, Islamabad is unlikely to abandon militancy as a tool of policy, even while the government battles former proxies who have turned their guns—and suicide vests—on the Pakistani state and their former patrons.

Policy Implications

Pakistan’s skill in recasting the historical record in its favor enables the country to extract benefits from the U.S., which seeks to prove that it is a reliable ally.

Given the varying levels of support for militancy within both the Pakistani public and the military and intelligence agencies, Islamabad likely will be unwilling to abandon militancy as a tool of foreign policy and contend with the emergent militant threat ravaging Pakistan and the region.

Washington and its partners have been unable to either fundamentally change the way Pakistan assesses its cost-benefit calculus toward India or find some means of ameliorating Pakistan’s neuralgic fears of India. Years of U.S. policies toward Pakistan based on financial allurements and conventional weaponry have done little to induce change.

Given Pakistan’s regional equities and the changing regional dynamics, the international community should abandon optimism that Pakistan can or will change course and should prepare for increasing Islamist violence in the region and beyond.

From here, PDF here

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Mar 2011 12:09

Overseas Employment Services: Fauji Foundation headhunts for Bahrain’s security units]Overseas Employment Services: Fauji Foundation headhunts for Bahrain’s security units

The Overseas Employment Services (OES) of the Fauji Foundation is recruiting hundreds of ex-servicemen to serve in the Bahrain National Guard (BNG).
Advertisements in an Urdu language daily and on the OES website state that the BNG “immediately” requires people with experience and qualifications as anti-riot instructors and security guards.

Karna_A · Post by **Karna_A** » 11 Mar 2011 12:20

ravi_ku wrote:Shiv,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Pakis ... ral_budget
budget = Pakistani Rs 325900 crores = 38b$ (at 85.4 exchange rate)

in comparison, andhra pradesh budget is Indian Rs 128000 crores =28 b$ (at 45 exchange rate)

we are quite near the indian defence budget = total pakistan budget

The union budget 2011-12, presented to the parliament on February 28, 2011, increased the defence allocation to Rs 1,64,415.49 crore ($36.03 billion)
http://www.defpro.com/news/details/2268 ... a4ad9d6e2a

Compared to 1971 when the TSP budget was 20 billion and India was 65 billion.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 11 Mar 2011 12:33

Pakistan seeks India’s support for acquiring EU concession on 75 items

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 11 Mar 2011 13:38

From the link above...

Pakistan, India and China could not qualify for scheme because their population exceeds 50 million, which is pre-requisite for this concession of the EU, the committee was told. Before 2010 floods, Pakistan actively pleaded its case to get some concession from EU but was not successful.

For Bakistan, this is easy problem to solve actually Ahl-e-Hadith and Sipah-e-Sahibah are already working on it...just bump off the remaining kufrs and Ahmedias, Shias and then start focusing on the impure Sunnis that dont wear long beard or commit sins by sending girls to schools...50 million purity target can be achieved..

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Mar 2011 14:28

abhishek_sharma wrote:The Militant Challenge in Pakistan: C. Christine Fair

Main Argument

Pakistan’s use of asymmetric warfare, although dating back to 1947, did not aggressively expand beyond Kashmir until Islamabad acquired first a covert “existential” nuclear capability in the 1980s and later an overt nuclear capability in 1998. . . . this article contends that jihad is sustained by important segments of Pakistani society that endorse “militant jihad” in general and specific militant groups and operations in particular. Given Pakistan’s enduring security concerns about India’s ascent, Islamabad is unlikely to abandon militancy as a tool of policy, even while the government battles former proxies who have turned their guns—and suicide vests—on the Pakistani state and their former patrons.

Policy Implications

Pakistan’s skill in recasting the historical record in its favor enables the country to extract benefits from the U.S., which seeks to prove that it is a reliable ally.

Given the varying levels of support for militancy within both the Pakistani public and the military and intelligence agencies, Islamabad likely will be unwilling to abandon militancy as a tool of foreign policy and contend with the emergent militant threat ravaging Pakistan and the region.

Washington and its partners have been unable to either fundamentally change the way Pakistan assesses its cost-benefit calculus toward India or find some means of ameliorating Pakistan’s neuralgic fears of India. Years of U.S. policies toward Pakistan based on financial allurements and conventional weaponry have done little to induce change.

Given Pakistan’s regional equities and the changing regional dynamics, the international community should abandon optimism that Pakistan can or will change course and should prepare for increasing Islamist violence in the region and beyond.

I have not read the complete article. But, the above summary is exactly what most of us have been saying for a long time here in BRf. Ms. Fair now accepts that the US policy is an utter failure, Pakistan has but one all-consuming aim and that is to have enduring hostility with India (she should have boldly stated the truth that Pakistan wants to destroy India), that India in particular and the rest of the world in general must resign themselves to increasing terrorism emanating from this cr@p-pit. I hope Ms. Fair has become consistent in her thought process now.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 11 Mar 2011 14:58

SSridhar:

I don't know about the rest of the world including US, but its only India that faces an existential threat from TSP. For US, TSP terror is a threat to the extent that it can declare victory and preserve its H&D (one up over the Russians) and run away.

The equation India is confronted with visa vi TSP is dire. And its only India thas has got to find a solution, the rest of the world has no dog in TSP's obsession to destroy India. And if you have elite pukes in delhi like that lunatic b%^&*h who drwas a moral equivalence between Paki murderous assualt in Mumbai with TSP and Talibunny internecine slaughter, India can be destroyed without much of a fight with TSP.