Well written article indeed.
India and Pakistan narrowly missed resolving their conflict in 2006, but the foundation for enduring peace has been laid, former Pakistani foreign minister, Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri tells Forbes India
Feb 14, 2011
Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Supporters of an accused assassin of a Pakistani politician brought him Valentine's flowers and cards Monday, the same day a judge charged him with murder and terrorism acts, his lawyer said.
When the judge asked Qadri to enter a plea, he denied committing a crime, said Raja Shuja Ur Rehman, his lawyer.
"I acted against a blasphemer per the guidelines of the Quran and the teachings of the prophet Muhammad," Qadri told the judge, according to his lawyer. "I didn't kill an innocent person."
It wasn't clear whether jail officials delivered the flowers to Qadri.
I bet they would have delivered it with a nice smile.It wasn't clear whether jail officials delivered the flowers to Qadri.
No There is no misunderstanding.CRamS wrote:
There is a misunderstanding in what I tried to convey.
Thus, it is in Indian interest to wean away US support to TSP. My point was that Arnab is not helping on several counts: 1) Indians taking a moralistic, preachy stance that is sure to turn US even more off, and that too someone pro-India like the US guest on the show, Lisa Curtis, 2) India has no dog in the US-TSP spat over Davis, and the last thing India needs to show in a way, shape or form, is empathy for the TSP scum. Its a rough world out there. At the ver least, lets just revel in schadenfreude at TSP travails with US over the Davis saga.
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If Arnab wanted to talk about the Davis, then, instead of appearing like an "argumentative Indian" worried about international rule of law, and Vienna convention crap in talking about Davis, he should have exposed the ISI links to those that were shot by Davis. The fact that there is possibly more to it than meets the eye in that TSP is crying foul after its ISI hanky panky may have gone awry. Such a coverage would have served India's interests more that "global citizenry" nonsesne that Arnab was trying to conevy.
Surely you're joking sir. Who cares if the US is turned on or off? The US does things in its own interest remember? You said so yourself and who should know better than you? And the US is not controlled by Indian behavior, so why should Indians worry whether they are turning the US on or off? It's only YOUR personal worry. Few others are worried. So what is the US going to do after it gets "turned off"? Help Pakistan more? Big deal!CRamS wrote: 1) Indians taking a moralistic, preachy stance that is sure to turn US even more off,
That is same ol' same ol' anyway. Why are you so keen to see India not turning the US off? You mean India should suck up to the US and dhoti shiver that it might get "turned off". LOL. 
Tell me another one! You da life of da party.Are you really being serious here sir. This is hilarious. Of course India has no dog in that spat. Do you think it makes any difference what stand any Indian takes, least of all Arnab. Only you seem to be upset.CRamS wrote:2) India has no dog in the US-TSP spat over Davis, and the last thing India needs to show in a way, shape or form, is empathy for the TSP scum.
Cut the sanctimonious crap brother. Do you think I, or other Indians don't know? You are doing just what I said.CRamS wrote:Its a rough world out there.
Speak for yourself Sir. I am revelling in Shadenf<glub glub> whatever.CRamS wrote:At the ver least, lets just revel in schadenfreude at TSP travails with US over the Davis saga.
Serious, scathing sarcasm on an Indian TV channel by an Indian anchor is totally lost on you sir. Chillax. Smoke a charminar. You are losing the plot in your eagerness to lecture people whom you consider less worldly wise than yourself.CRamS wrote:If Arnab wanted to talk about the Davis, then, instead of appearing like an "argumentative Indian" worried about international rule of law, and Vienna convention crap in talking about Davis,
Sigh.....Smoking Marlboros is less likely to turn off the US of A.shiv wrote:Chillax. Smoke a charminar.
How about sending him a basket of mangos?Dilbu wrote:I bet they would have delivered it with a nice smile.It wasn't clear whether jail officials delivered the flowers to Qadri.
Objectively speaking, what all has India lost because of Sharm-el-Sheikh?
I am sure you would like to have one on one negotiations with esteemed phone minister. That is what all our phone minister wants too.Sri wrote:
Me likes the new Forin minister of Pakistan. I want more strategic discussions... I'll try to be part of them from now on...
No need for overkill, sirjee.A_Gupta wrote:Dilbu wrote:It wasn't clear whether jail officials delivered the flowers to Qadri.
I bet they would have delivered it with a nice smile.
How about sending him a basket of mangos?
In Islamabad, people, at least the ones that I come across to, generally assume that you have a driver and a cook and if you happen to mention that you have neither, they don’t know how to respond.
Something else worth noticing is that more men dye their hair in the capital than they do it in Karachi. If one is perceptive, there is a pattern to be observed. On Monday mornings, men would be sporting jet black moustaches but as the week progresses, their white roots would start peeking and by Friday evening, they would be quite visible, come Monday morning and all the mustaches would be miraculously black again.
It takes an Einstein to recognize another Einstein. But what to do, sometimes it does make a person an Einstein, if one is not careful enough, while he reads your posts. Your well known takleef towards US based NRIs would be noticeable even from Moon. To a person it is lecturing but to another it is 'giving reasons'. I can construe all your posts in BRF as lectures to us Einsteins.shiv wrote:Thank you Einstein. In case you did not notice - I am talking about why repeatedly listening to those reasons (which I have heard for over 30 years) is completely meaningless and they are merely naive lectures given to fellow Indians by innocent and well meaning Indian Americans who believe that if only Indian understood America and behaved differently things would be different. In the long term India will be India just as America is America, And America will have to adjust to the Indian way. This is not about understanding and friendship. At a fundamental level there is a war between India and America in areas where Indian an American interests collide.
India creating espionage cells in Pakistan
ISLAMABAD, Feb 14 (APP): ………………………..
RAW, the Indian agency responsible for espionage operations in Pakistan, was trying to lure locals to cross over to India through the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir or the Working Boundary along with weapons.
The objective of such an exercise was obviously to malign Pakistan over charges of cross-border terrorism in Kashmir or even the Indian hinterland by conducting fake encounters. ………………………..
According to sources, the persistent Indian focus on luring armed Pakistani nationals across the working boundary in Sialkot area as well as various sectors of the LoC in Kashmir indicates to the Indian fixation for implicating Pakistan in manipulated acts of terrorism.
Such operations obviously aimed at raising an alarm that infiltration of armed ‘terrorists’ from Pakistan were fanning the widespread popular unrest in the Indian held Kashmir as well as precipitating acts of terrorism within India. ……………….
APP
Pakistan is milking them to the order of $3 billion a year. China's total export to them is over $1 trillion with hundreds of billion in trade surplus, the main reason of China's rise in last 30 years.Gagan wrote:Even if we are "there", more is to be gained by being inside the tent than standing alone in a corner and being a bad boy (Which is what China and Pakistan are doing).
India seems to have understood that and is doing just fine.
internationally acclaimed singer Rahat Fateh Ali Khan who had been detained in India for over 25 hours was released on Monday, Geo News reported.
However, the singer was released today but his passport still remains with the Indian authorities. He has been summoned again for investigation on February 17. Two more persons along with Rahat Fateh were also released including his manager Sri Vastava.
Banana republic will not export bananas?Pakistan is among the largest banana producing countries of the world and if the government takes appropriate measures Pakistan could export huge quantity of bananas to central Asian countries, Iran and Afghanistan. Officials at Ministry of Food and Agriculture told Business Recorder that many farmers in Sindh province were shifting to banana cultivation as they could grow it all year. With more than 349,000 hectares, Pakistan is among the leading banana producing countries of the world. Sindh is the largest banana producing region in Pakistan as 90 percent of the total banana is being produced in this province. With the adoption of new techniques Sindh could produce an extra 350,000 tons of bananas each year.
I guess the US threat to really start making the Pakis eat grass in the year 2011 was just too terrifying for the Pakis to contemplate....Fauzia Wahab further said that United States is the biggest market of Pakistani products. A large number of Pakistanis are living there, she said and added that 80 percent remittance of Pakistan came from the US.
Gila nahi hai to ab pant gila ho jayega! PPP is going to be hit again! In fact, even ISI may oblige this time!The spokesperson for Pakistan's ruling party invoked the Geneva Convention and diplomatic immunity for the first time today as a possible avenue for the U.S. to secure the release of Raymond Davis, the American diplomat who allegedly gunned down two Pakistani men last month.
Fauzia Wahab, a spokesperson for the Pakistan People Party, said that no diplomat can be kept in captivity and that Davis has an official diplomatic visa. The U.S. State Department has been demanding Davis' release based on the same points since the Jan. 25 shooting incident, but today marks the first time a prominent Pakistani official publicly backed the international agreement in Davis' case.
Well - it appears that when the US calls a Packee a dog, the meaning is that the Packee is a dog and will heel. Once the Pakis do their massive downhill ski - it will be good for a laugh, but it also means that Pakis are signing their letters to the US as:jrjrao wrote:Pakis begin their well-practiced downhill skiing:
Pakistan Starts to Pave the Way for Detained American's Release
Pakistan ruling party softens over US gunman
Davis enjoys immunity: Fauzia WahabI guess the US threat to really start making the Pakis eat grass in the year 2011 was just too terrifying for the Pakis to contemplate....Fauzia Wahab further said that United States is the biggest market of Pakistani products. A large number of Pakistanis are living there, she said and added that 80 percent remittance of Pakistan came from the US.
That means more weapons. More money. And "international support" for an intact Pakistan.I remain,
Your humble servant
Pakistan
Geo TV: RFAK was leaving the country.Khan, who is a hit Bollywood playback singer, arrived here on a flight from Karachi and was intercepted by personnel from Directorate of Revenue Intelligence acting on some prior information, official sources said
Which is correct???????Rahat Fateh Ali was detained here at Indira Gandhi airport on Sunday for possessing 124,000 US dollars, higher than the permissible limit, when he arrived at the airport to board for a flight to Karachi.
Was this said in a public forum? Any idea when Shri Nasir had said this?The Pakistani perception of India had been once summed up by one of their Inter Services Intelligence chiefs -- Javed Nasir, the man was behind the Mumbai blasts in 1993 -- who said that 'you lick the Indians, they kick you; and if you kick the Indians, they lick you'.
Are you on some high-potency hallucinating stuff this Valentine's day or whatA_Gupta wrote: Objectively speaking, what all has India lost because of Sharm-el-Sheikh?
? What has India lost? At the very least, 26/11 is now history and there has been an equivalence with Samjotha? Isn't that loss enough? What more do you need?Indians have to learn all the lessons of war of 1857 and fight the war of the 21st centurysanjaykumar wrote:A strategy based on pique at western double standards is bound for failure, irrespective of how sucessful it may be in irritating the target audience. The same facts presented as a threat to their self-interest, enlightened or otherwise will be successful. An approach of 'we Indians are damned but we welcome you to perdition' will now finding receptive minds.
To 'humour' centered on Blacks, the Muslim stereotype has been added as legitimate among Whites. As an Indian/non-Muslim albeit Brown, you may be privy to this 'wit'. I certainly have first hand experience of a hardening of the multiculturism ethic, mostly restricted to Muslims (as of now). Mumbai 2008 was a propaganda coup for the oily, SDRE. The westerner breathed a huge sigh of relief that these billion Browns are in the same boat. You could see 'potential ally' in their eyes. Indians need to learn to be less strident and more subtle in using this cultural shift to their strategic ends.
Western and Indian interests are confluent and congruent over Pakistan, democracy, free markets, China; the English language can only add to India's acceptability to the inner sanctum of western world view ie the Anglosphere.
But Indians need to first decide whether they want to fight the war of 1857 or the wars of the 21 st century.
You are right. But there is a reason why some level of subtlety is needed. And thats because of the sheer potency of "South Asianitis". The only gathering where US heavyweights appear to rub shoulders with SDREs is during "South Asia" events. Very rarely will you find state dept heavyweights, ex-diplomats etc appearing in any NRI nationalist gathering.brihaspati wrote:To be fair to CRamS, I think he is pointing to expat Indians in USA, who "threaten/shout/deride/throw him out". If I am wrong, CRamSji, please point it out. So all this talk about subtle tactic in swinging public opinion among non-Bharatyia Americans really does not apply to what CRamSji is saying, if I am correct in my interpretation.
In a later interview to ARY, Fouzia Wahab said that she made these statements in "her personal capacity".jrjrao wrote: Fauzia Wahab further said that United States is the biggest market of Pakistani products. A large number of Pakistanis are living there, she said and added that 80 percent remittance of Pakistan came from the US.
(any puns y'all see are.... oh what the heck)our biggest problem then is the Indians who have been South Asianized (rhymes with Euthinized). This is where our real weakness is. It is relatively less important to change US heavyweights. Unfortunately, there is an abundant supply of S.Asianized Indians, eager to do japphi pappi with the TSP'ians. They are all brought up on the milk of MKG's non-violense and INC's potion of petrified sleep-induced inaction.The only gathering where US heavyweights appear to rub shoulders with SDREs is during "South Asia" events
Firstly, Sharm-el-Sheikh did not bring about an equivalence of 26/11 with the Samjhauta bombing. Other events did.CRamS wrote:Are you on some high-potency hallucinating stuff this Valentine's day or whatA_Gupta wrote: Objectively speaking, what all has India lost because of Sharm-el-Sheikh?
Has counterpunch always been so Paki-centric, or is it a recent infestation?A_Gupta wrote:New evidence in the Aafia Siddiqui case:
http://www.counterpunch.org/brittain02142011.html
