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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 May 2011 15:59

JEM, that name is correct.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby anupmisra » 11 May 2011 16:34

Grenades thrown at Saudi consulate in Karachi, no injuries
Apparently the pakis forgot to pull the pins. Warped logic and all. But hey, it's pakiland.

Attackers threw two grenades at the Saudi consulate building in Pakistan’s largest city of Karachi on Wednesday, in possible reaction to the US killing of Osama bin Laden, an official said.

We are seeing this incident in the present context. It could be a reaction of the Osama incident

No, its in reaction to the saudis not allowing their women to drink and drive. :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby shaardula » 11 May 2011 16:56

Anujan wrote:
anupmisra wrote:Only in pureland. Punjab flood report put under wraps.

That India was not responsible for the pakjabi floods?


Nope. The canal breaches were made to save the lands of the Jernails and feudals and ended up drowning the homes of mango abduls.


yes, this saving of jernail & feudal lands by flooding abduls land was in the news and was also in atleast one of the non-news type articles in one of the papers (prolly Dawn). around the the time there was also a discussion in this dhaaga about the class- angle to what the pakistani t-party is about.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby sum » 11 May 2011 17:13

Another day in the religious bigotry on the map, Pakistan ( love the description given by the Kenyan paper) :
Prayers for bin Laden in Pakistan Parliament

Pakistani Parliamentarians were left stunned when a lawmaker led a prayer for slain al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden [ Images ] in the National Assembly despite being told by Deputy Speaker Faisal Karim Kundi not to do so.

Maulvi Asmatullah, an independent candidate from Zbob in Balochistan province, stood up in the lower house of Parliament yesterday and said lawmakers should pray for bin

Laden, who was killed by United States commandos in a unilateral raid on his hideout in Abbottabad on May 2.

Two lawmakers from the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam from Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province -- former federal minister Attaur Rehman, the younger brother of Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman; and Laiq Muhammad Khan -- as well as Minister of State for Health Shahjehan Yousaf of the Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid and Pakistan people's Party Parliamentarian Sher Muhammad Baloch participated in the 'fateha' prayer that lasted about a minute.

Deputy Speaker Kundi, who was administering the proceedings, could not convince the lawmakers to stick to the rules of business. "What you are doing? I did not give you permission," Kundi said.

Before offering the prayer for bin laden, Asmatullah said, "The Americans claim they allowed the last rites for Osama bin Laden to be performed according to Islamic values. So it is proper for us to pray for bin Laden also."

The scene stunned most lawmakers who were in the House and members of the treasury benches looked on helplessly, media reports said on Wednesday. Asmatullah broke away from the JUI party last year and formed his own party, Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Nazriati.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 May 2011 17:18


From the above,
. . . on our demands for cooperation in two immediate priorities: (1) Kill/capture Ayman al-Zawahiri and (2) Mounting pressure on the Afghan Taliban leadership to make it hard for them to regenerate losses suffered & suffering in Afghanistan.

Point no 2 cannot be achieved without eliminating Mullah Omar. Though a number of field commanders of Afghan Taliban may be operating independently today just like Al Qaeda, Mullah Omar remains a rallying point for them. He wore Prophet Muhammad's robe in Kandahar and was thus proclaimed as the Leader of the Believers by the ecstatic crowd. They took a bayat. A number of Taliban commanders might be susceptible to blandishments but not so long as Mullah Omar lives. It is therefore essential that such an iconic figure is eliminated physically if a repeat of 1996 is to be avoided. He is right there on top with OBL & Zawahiri.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 May 2011 17:27

sum wrote:Another day in the religious bigotry on the map, Pakistan ( love the description given by the Kenyan paper) :
Prayers for bin Laden in Pakistan Parliament


sum, let us recall another condolence of an equal terrorist and a member of Al Qaeda. When Abu Musa’b Zarqawi was killed in Iraq, there was also a move by a few Members of the Pakistan National Assembly to offer official condolence in the National Assembly itself. While that could not be done in the National Assembly, the provincial assembly of Lahore did offer Fateha to Zarqawi by cleverly clubbing it along with that of another non-descript person. The Provincial assembly of NWFP also offered similar prayers. Similarly, the JUI-F members and the entire Opposition, including Nawaz Sharif’s PML-N party, offered condolence to Osama bin Laden in the National Assembly two days back. On the other hand, when the Minorities Affiars minister, Shahbaz Bhatti was gunned down in Islamabad on March 2, 2011 and a two-minute silence was offered in the National Assembly on March 9, three members of the National Assembly refused to stand up and observe the courtesies because the slain minister was a Christian.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby shaardula » 11 May 2011 17:45

sorry. could not resist.
deputy speaker is a kundi and he said:

"What you are doing? I did not give you permission," Kundi said.


if tsp = gubo, the above quote might well have been kiyanahi to ameerkhan.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Baikul » 11 May 2011 18:15

In continuing with the very recent trend of not naming sources (such as the one on teetar) that spread joy and light about the shining example of moderation, toleration and prosperity that is Pakistan, I thought this was an interesting site:

http://isi-intersevicesintelligence.blogspot.com/

Please do not be deceived by the book cover, so to speak.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 May 2011 18:30

shaardula wrote:
"What you are doing? I did not give you permission," Kundi said.
if tsp = gubo, the above quote might well have been kiyanahi to ameerkhan.

And, ameerkhan will retort that Musharraf had given a binding and blanket permission through Amritraj a long time back on behalf of all Pakistanis for all time to come.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Sam » 11 May 2011 18:36

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Pak-aims-to-block-lawsuit-against-ISI-chief-in-US-court/Article1-696251.aspx
it "will fuel violence and extremism" that will threaten Pakistan government

Violence by who?
and pour "gasoline on the fire" of relations between Pakistan and India

On the other side we have Indian PM continuing to extend his loooooooooooong hand of friendship to Pakistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby shiv » 11 May 2011 18:43

Kailash wrote:No money to Pak till they get rid of nukes: Trump

One businessman from US asks that which no Indian diplomat will ask for. Why not... its HIS hard earned money..


That is a specious argument considering that the US looked the other way when Pakistan got the nukes. Why whine and say "It's my money" now? Indian diplomats have nothing to do with this and mentioning them is needless self flagellation. Everyone chooses to criticise India and Indians - primarily because Indians do that too. And Indians believe they have more rights than anyone else to be critical of Indians. I don;t see Pakis, Chinese and the US being so self critical but they are all allied with Indians in criticizing India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby CRamS » 11 May 2011 19:52

What are the chances of a behind-the-scenes going on between Unkil & TSP? What I mean is that TSP guboes "sufficiently enough" so US calls of the 26/11 trial in Chicago? Question is how much is "sufficiently enough"? My man, R-man, any thoughts?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Cosmo_R » 11 May 2011 19:53

anupmisra wrote:Grenades thrown at Saudi consulate in Karachi, no injuries
Apparently the pakis forgot to pull the pins. Warped logic and all. But hey, it's pakiland.

Attackers threw two grenades at the Saudi consulate building in Pakistan’s largest city of Karachi on Wednesday, in possible reaction to the US killing of Osama bin Laden, an official said.

We are seeing this incident in the present context. It could be a reaction of the Osama incident

No, its in reaction to the saudis not allowing their women to drink and drive. :roll:


Actually, they did pull the pins. The instructions on the grenade said: "Pull the pin and throw it." Well, they threw the pin.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Purush » 11 May 2011 20:14

shaardula wrote:sorry. could not resist.
deputy speaker is a kundi

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Is everyone in Pakistan named Musharraf?

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http://www.smh.com.au/world/khan-challe ... 1eisx.html

PAKISTANI cricket great turned political firebrand Imran Khan wants Pakistan to distance itself from Washington by rejecting all US aid to his country.

Speaking to The Age, he said Pakistan was now more vulnerable than at any time in its 63-years, following the US raid in Abbottabad in which Osama bin Laden was killed.

''The biggest lesson to learn [from the operation] is that Pakistan should stand on its own feet, say no to aid and be a sovereign country,'' he said.


Khan (pictured) will next week lead supporters of his political party, Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf (Movement for Justice), in a ''huge blockade'' of NATO's military supply route that goes though Pakistan to Afghanistan in protest at US drone strikes inside Pakistan.

''These drone attacks are not just a violation of Pakistan's sovereignty, they are a violation of all humanitarian laws,'' Khan said. :roll:


I hope he gets run over by a NATO truck.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Virupaksha » 11 May 2011 20:23

Imran Khan is the new ISI Mahdi

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Prem » 11 May 2011 20:33

Purush wrote:
shaardula wrote:sorry. could not resist.
deputy speaker is a kundi

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Is everyone in Pakistan named Musharraf?.


Hope he knows what "Kanda" means for Kundi!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Manny » 11 May 2011 20:36

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/12/world ... ter12.html

Bin Laden’s Killing as Seen From India

NEW DELHI — As the news of Osama bin Laden’s death spread around the world, the jubilation in India had as much to do with where he was found as the fact he had been dispatched.

The headline in The Times of India read: “US Kills Osama, Blows Pak Cover.” Mail Today announced: “Osama Killed, Pak Wounded.” India Today described Pakistan on its cover as “Terroristan.”

Many Indians relished the fact that Bin Laden was found in Pakistan, in a large mansion, in the company of a wife U.S. officials described as “young.”

That he maintained such a life in a garrison town two hours from the Pakistani capital appeared to confirm India’s official position that it is in Pakistan’s nature to protect terrorists. In the world according to Indians, the myth of Pakistan as an ally in the war against terror died that night with Bin Laden. The chalk outlines on the floor of the Abbottabad mansion would include, besides the contours of Bin Laden’s last pose, the map of Pakistan.

Bin Laden’s death in Pakistan was particularly satisfying for those Indians who have resented what they took to be the world’s propensity to lump India and Pakistan together.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby shiv » 11 May 2011 21:19

Manny wrote:http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/12/world/asia/12iht-letter12.html

Bin Laden’s Killing as Seen From India


Bin Laden’s death in Pakistan was particularly satisfying for those Indians who have resented what they took to be the world’s propensity to lump India and Pakistan together.

Modern India, despite its horrible flaws, they would say, is a product of democracy, new capitalism and the unambiguous moral values of Hinduism, which does not define humanity as Hindus and so could not be bothered to call anybody infidels or try to convert them. (There are zealots among Hindus, but their numbers are comparatively few, and their influence has been diminished by the Indian preoccupation with prosperity, whose currency is peace.)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby sum » 11 May 2011 21:23

Snubbed by IPL, Afridi & co. head to Lankan League

Snubbed by the IPL for the past three seasons, top Pakistani cricketers including ODI skipper Shahid Afridi, are set to prove their worth at the inaugural edition of the Sri Lanka Premier League (SLPL) later this year.

Afridi has already accepted an offer to lead one of the franchises in the SLPL for a sum of $35,000 for the inaugural season.

The Pakistan captain revealed that he has agreed on a three-year contract and that his current amount will double in 2012. "I've accepted an offer to be captain of one of the team in the Sri Lankan Premier League. It's a good opportunity and I will try to make the most of it," Afridi said.

Besides the SLPL, the flamboyant Pakistani all-rounder said he has also received an offer to play as captain in the Bangladesh Premier League.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

Apart from Afridi, other Pakistani players to have signed a contract with the SLPL include Test captain Misbah-ul-Haq, retired fast bowler Shoaib Akhtar, Abdul Razzaq, Umar Gul and Umar Akmal. "There is a comfortable window for us to feature in the league in Sri Lanka. We have a sufficient break from international cricket this summer," Afridi said.

Whatever happened to the greatest show on earth, PPL that the almighty superstar Pakis are forced to play in SDRE SLPL or BPL ( Bangladesh Premier League)?

The last time SDRE Lankans visited Pak ignoring Indian diktat, we all know what happened. Now, lets see what happens when the Pakis come visitng to SL...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Dilbu » 11 May 2011 22:37

Pakistan should stop begging for foreign aid: Nawaz Sharif
Islamabad: Pakistan's main Opposition leader Nawaz Sharif has demanded that the government should form a judicial commission within three days to ascertain how Al Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden was able to hide in the country.

Dismissing Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani's announcement of a probe by the Army's Adjutant General as inadequate, Sharif said the proposed judicial commission should also probe whether there was any tacit agreement permitting operations by US forces in Pakistani territory.

Sharif said Pakistanis should stand up as honourable people and stop "begging" for foreign aid as this was destroying the country.

"This is my strong belief that if this country had been on a democratic track there would not have been any gun running here, nor would there be terrorism, extremism and poverty,"
he said. {You mean like a kafir country next door, Nawaz Mian?}

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Rajdeep » 11 May 2011 22:38

Rogue' elements in ISI, army may have helped Osama: Musharraf

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Rogue-elements-in-ISI-army-may-have-helped-Osama-Musharraf/articleshow/8250558.cms

According to the former president, there were three attachment commanders in Abbottabad in the past six years and he could not imagine all three knowing and harbouring bin Laden.

"The possibility as I said, at the lower level, somebody following a policy of his own and violating the policy from above, is a possibility," he was quoted as saying.

Regardless of who knew what, according to Musharraf, was the fact that the US raid was a possible violation of Pakistan's sovereignty and that there was never a deal struck during his tenure to allow the US to make a unilateral attack on Pakistan's soil if bin Laden was found.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Dilbu » 11 May 2011 22:41

ZAB Case: CJP says Article 186 should be amended
ISLAMABAD: Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry, while hearing the Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto reference case on Wednesday, said that Article 186 of the constitution should be amended in order to empower the Supreme Court to set aside an earlier verdict, re-hear a case and give a new verdict.
The chief justice said that the Supreme Court could not annul a previously given verdict under the constitution. He said that the court had limited powers under Article 186 and the constitution did not allow the court to criticise its own verdicts.
He said that numerous people had been executed during military regimes and all such cases could not be entertained.
The chief justice inquired about 5 more cases filed against Zulfikar Ali Bhuttto in 1978. Counsel for the government, Babar Awan said that no record could be found on the cases against Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Dilbu » 11 May 2011 22:43

U.S. will lose if it alienates Pakistan: Musharraf
WASHINGTON - Former Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf warned in an interview on Wednesday that the United States will be "a loser" if it alienates Pakistan in the war against al-Qaida and Islamic militants.

Musharraf, speaking about the U.S. raid in Pakistan which eliminated Osama bin Laden, also told ABC News there was no deal between his government and Washington almost a decade ago allowing U.S. forces to conduct a unilateral raid in Pakistani territory, as reported by the British newspaper The Guardian.

"Never! And this is the assertion being cast by the Guardian and I rejected that. I condemn such an insinuation," Musharraf said. "There was no such deal."

Musharraf acknowledged however that Pakistani intelligence might have helped bin Laden remain undetected for years at his compound in the garrison town of Abbottabad, but said this it would have been a "rogue element" in the ranks.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby sanjaykumar » 11 May 2011 23:05

Egad.

http://www.aei.org/article/103595

History Weeps at the Partition of India and Pakistan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

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Partial truth only. Rogue ISI and Army helped Osama.

By the way, why does this ToIlet media give space for Musharraf?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Anindya » 11 May 2011 23:45

From http://ibnlive.in.com/news/pak-paid-uk-mp-for-promoting-its-kashmir-case/151973-56.html

Pak paid UK MP for promoting its Kashmir case

Islamabad: Pakistan government paid British parliamentarian George Galloway 135,000 pounds from a secret fund for promoting its case on the Kashmir issue, according to information provided to a Parliamentary panel. The revelation was made on Tuesday when the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) of the National Assembly or lower house of Parliament examined an audit report.
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He said the audit report involved the Foreign Ministry's secret fund and should not be taken up at an open forum.

The PAC was informed that 135,000 pounds had been refunded by Galloway, then a member of the British Parliament.

The amount was paid to him from the "Pakistan projection fund" by the Pakistan High Commission in London but it was never credited to the government account. The audit report said the Foreign Ministry did not provide an official record of the transaction despite repeated reminders. The PAC has questioned the use of secret funds on several occasions.

Bashir told the panel that an in-camera session could be arranged if PAC members were interested in learning the specifics of secret funds used by the Foreign Ministry in the past.

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During Tuesday's meeting, the PAC also took up the sale of the Pakistan Embassy complex in Tokyo at a price far below the market rate, leading to a loss of six billion Japanese yen, and the sale of Pakistan embassy building in Jakarta without mandatory permission from the Foreign Ministry.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Mihaylo » 12 May 2011 00:11

RamaY wrote:
Rajdeep wrote:Rogue' elements in ISI, army may have helped Osama: Musharraf

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Rogue-elements-in-ISI-army-may-have-helped-Osama-Musharraf/articleshow/8250558.cms

Partial truth only. Rogue ISI and Army helped Osama.

By the way, why does this ToIlet media give space for Musharraf?


Actually what he wanted to say was "Rogue elements in the ISI gave call detail records of the courier to CIA"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Baikul » 12 May 2011 00:28

RamaY wrote:
Rajdeep wrote:Rogue' elements in ISI, army may have helped Osama: Musharraf

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Rogue-elements-in-ISI-army-may-have-helped-Osama-Musharraf/articleshow/8250558.cms

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Stage One: We are not involved and completely reject any responsibility- Kargil adventure, 26/11, Protecting OBL
Stage Two: We are definitely not involved, but some non-state elements may have been involved - Kargil adventure, 26/11, Protecting OBL
Stage Three: We're distributing bravery and cash awards to those who were involved, onlee - Kargil adventure, 26/11 (most likely has already happened), Protecting OBL (will happen asap).

This happens each time, every time, with minor variations.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby RSoami » 12 May 2011 00:51

Grenades thrown at Saudi consulate in Karachi, no injuries

We are seeing this incident in the present context. It could be a reaction of the Osama incident


Could be Shias trying to bomb Saudi Arabian consulate in protest against what is going on in Bahrain...
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby svinayak » 12 May 2011 00:54

sanjaykumar wrote:Egad.

http://www.aei.org/article/103595

History Weeps at the Partition of India and Pakistan


In the Cold War we backed Pakistan against India,
By arming and financing Pakistan it is still backing Pakistan against India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby mayo » 12 May 2011 01:04

Dilbu wrote:U.S. will lose if it alienates Pakistan: Musharraf
WASHINGTON - Former Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf warned in an interview on Wednesday that the United States will be "a loser" if it alienates Pakistan in the war against al-Qaida and Islamic militants.

Musharraf, speaking about the U.S. raid in Pakistan which eliminated Osama bin Laden, also told ABC News there was no deal between his government and Washington almost a decade ago allowing U.S. forces to conduct a unilateral raid in Pakistani territory, as reported by the British newspaper The Guardian.

"Never! And this is the assertion being cast by the Guardian and I rejected that. I condemn such an insinuation," Musharraf said. "There was no such deal."

Musharraf acknowledged however that Pakistani intelligence might have helped bin Laden remain undetected for years at his compound in the garrison town of Abbottabad, but said this it would have been a "rogue element" in the ranks.


Here is the interview link

http://abcnews.go.com/thelaw/video/paki ... b=13328270

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Mahendra » 12 May 2011 01:53

Acharya wrote:
sanjaykumar wrote:Egad.

http://www.aei.org/article/103595

History Weeps at the Partition of India and Pakistan


In the Cold War we backed Pakistan against India,
By arming and financing Pakistan it is still backing Pakistan against India.


Backing Pakeestan is like chain smoking, gives short term pleasure but long term cancer. Uncle and Aunty have had a few big jhatkas but the CT Chest result was inconclusive. I am willing to bet Dilbullah's left testimonial that shortly we will all see pak trained uighur brothers stuffing a major IED mubarak up uncle Hoo's musharaff

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Cosmo_R » 12 May 2011 02:45

RamaY wrote:
Rajdeep wrote:Rogue' elements in ISI, army may have helped Osama: Musharraf

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/pakistan/Rogue-elements-in-ISI-army-may-have-helped-Osama-Musharraf/articleshow/8250558.cms

Partial truth only. Rogue ISI and Army helped Osama.

By the way, why does this ToIlet media give space for Musharraf?


Because of 'rogue elements' within the Indian media?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby shiv » 12 May 2011 05:46

sum wrote:Snubbed by IPL, Afridi & co. head to Lankan League

Snubbed by the IPL for the past three seasons, top Pakistani cricketers including ODI skipper Shahid Afridi, are set to prove their worth at the inaugural edition of the Sri Lanka Premier League (SLPL) later this year.


Pigswill.

What SL league? The SLCB was losing players to IPL till 2 weeks ago. IPL is not about patriotism. It's about entertainment and money. People watch for the entertainment and the players are in it for the money.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby lakshmikanth » 12 May 2011 05:55

Mahendra wrote:
Backing Pakeestan is like chain smoking, gives short term pleasure but long term cancer. Uncle and Aunty have had a few big jhatkas but the CT Chest result was inconclusive. I am willing to bet Dilbullah's left testimonial that shortly we will all see pak trained uighur brothers stuffing a major IED mubarak up uncle Hoo's musharaff

:rotfl:

On a serious note, Mahendramullah.... what is the chance that an IED already went off making uncle Hoo's musharaff as large as Osama's cave. But unlike Unkil who makes a big deal out of it, Uncle Hoo bit his lip, supressed the neuj reports and "cleansed" the uighur biraders and the packees that were helping them?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby jrjrao » 12 May 2011 06:14

Asad Durani (the director-general of ISI from 1990-92) has been writing some in your face stuff in recent weeks.

Recall last month, when he wrote:
‘terrorism’ ... is a technique of war and, therefore, an instrument of policy.

Today, he is back, writing defiant stuff that I think is deliberately aimed at the US and aimed at aggravating the US.

One gets an immediate sense that if Durani were the current ISI chief, then he would go to any lengths to defy the US and protect Osama. There is no reason to think that Pasha, the current ISI chief, thinks any different.

The world would be a far better place if Durani's musharraf is hauled off to Gitmo, and where he is then subjected to some extensive water-boarding.

Eating the humble pie — and having it too
(to) exhaust America by making it run from Afghanistan to Iraq, from Yemen to Libya and, in due course, all over the place — even if bluster, makes strategic sense.

Faced with a hyper-power obsessed with unilateralism, nothing else was likely to work. And if Osama was, in fact, running circles around the US — sending decoys to Libya to lure the West in yet another quagmire, for example — he was merely expediting the process. No chance that Osama’s successors or any of al Qaeda’s affiliates will abandon this path.

Of all the sins, being a ‘trustworthy ally’ of the ‘Great Satan’, in Pakistan’s domestic politics, is the gravest. And therefore any charge of cooperating with America, especially in the hunt for the one person, who symbolised defiance of the mightiest of the worldly powers.....

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby SSridhar » 12 May 2011 06:29



This can't be true. It is a figment of Indian imagination. All Prime Ministers, Presidents and COASs of Pakistan including Gen. Musharraf himself the current crop of Gilani, Zardari and Kayani have repeatedly said that the ' PA & ISI were disciplined forces completely under civilian control and doing only what the Government asks them to do'. So, there are no rogue elements in either organization. Therefore, it is logical to conclude that it was the Pakistani Government which ordered the PA/ISI to protect Osama at Abbottabad.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Hari Seldon » 12 May 2011 06:48

Just wondering about these retired ISI types mouthing off against the great satan and all. Do they ot fear confiscation of overseas bank accounts etc that unkil might unleash on their sorry musharrafs? Does the khan have no leverage at all on these types? When was the last time Hamid Gul left the country (just wondering)?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Anantha » 12 May 2011 06:49

I remember the years 1999-2001 distinctly well, for TSP. TSP was down on all fronts. Kargil attack, a military coup in 1999 and becoming a worldwide pariah nation. Economic situation was pretty bad with TSP living on IMF release from month to month. The morale of the nation was all time low with a economic collapse not too far. And then one fine 2001 morning Sep 11 happened and TSP was a winner for almost 7-8 years until everything caught up on the main players.
Right now we have a very similar situation to 2001 in TSP with the whole nation facing worldwide humiliation. I fear something bad is going to happen in the next 6 months. What is it? A bio attack in India? A JDAM in Europe? a suitcase weapon in the US?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

Postby Kanishka » 12 May 2011 06:51

jrjrao wrote:Asad Durani (the director-general of ISI from 1990-92) has been writing some in your face stuff in recent weeks.

Recall last month, when he wrote:
‘terrorism’ ... is a technique of war and, therefore, an instrument of policy.

Today, he is back, writing defiant stuff that I think is deliberately aimed at the US and aimed at aggravating the US.

One gets an immediate sense that if Durani were the current ISI chief, then he would go to any lengths to defy the US and protect Osama. There is no reason to think that Pasha, the current ISI chief, thinks any different.

The world would be a far better place if Durani's musharraf is hauled off to Gitmo, and where he is then subjected to some extensive water-boarding.

Eating the humble pie — and having it too
(to) exhaust America by making it run from Afghanistan to Iraq, from Yemen to Libya and, in due course, all over the place — even if bluster, makes strategic sense.

Faced with a hyper-power obsessed with unilateralism, nothing else was likely to work. And if Osama was, in fact, running circles around the US — sending decoys to Libya to lure the West in yet another quagmire, for example — he was merely expediting the process. No chance that Osama’s successors or any of al Qaeda’s affiliates will abandon this path.

Of all the sins, being a ‘trustworthy ally’ of the ‘Great Satan’, in Pakistan’s domestic politics, is the gravest. And therefore any charge of cooperating with America, especially in the hunt for the one person, who symbolised defiance of the mightiest of the worldly powers.....



There is only one policy left for the US and NATO to try out against Pakistan.
Its the Bomb Pakistan policy :P .
The US doesn't have to bomb them to stone age. Just target PA and bomb every ISI and PA and Airforce infrastructure that exists.

It will work 400% guaranteed. Nothing else will.


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