Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 2011

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): May 8, 201

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SSridhar et al, Do we have a tab on how many TTP were droned to date? Name location and date. Does the Pakiban thread have the data?
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If I were a business-minded Paki crore kammandu (and which of them isn't, really), I would turn all this misfortune into opportunity.

There is so much murkiness about who is attacking whom in Pakistan, there could be an attack, assassination, explosions, all of the above anywhere in the country and it could be the work of anyone on the planet - Taliban, ISI, CIA, RAW, Mossad, RAMA, Han Solo, 'liberal extremists' :lol: - so how is this an opportunity?

Well, Pakistan should officially market themselves as the black ops/ special forces/ terrorist training ground of the world! Chechen militia, planning an assault in Russia but need a safer space for target practice and bomb-making? Why not practice on a FC post in beautiful FATA, where you can train by shooting up some hapless Pathans and nobody will be the wiser?

Mexican drug cartels, planning a revenge attack on the Presidential palace in Mexico? Why not have a practice round at GHQ in Pakistan? Arms bazaars are conveniently located nearby, crazed yahoos aplenty willing to phyrr an AK or blow themselves up for a couple of dollahs, and best of all -- guaranteed anonymity for you!

North Korean generals, want to test the skills of your special forces? Take the 'Khyber-Pakhtunkwa Special', where you get a choice of attacking any 4 of the following located anywhere in Pakistan*: naval bases, arms depots, GHQ, FC posts, air force bases, missile silos, and of course the Marriott group of hotels (make sure not to confuse your stay at these hotels with your appointment to blow them up!).

Seriously Pakis, since your 'nation' is now the battleground of the world, why not make it a tourist destination once more -- all you need is to attract the right 'tourists' :rotfl:

*Special discount for sites in Balochistan and K-P, we've been trying to kill those bast*rds ourselves for quite some time!
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Some of the comments on the Christine Fair "see it my way" article have crossed the lines of decency and entered into quite ugly personal attacks on La Fair. I hope BRF readers are not responsible for these.

Try to distinguish hard-hitting from abusive. Remember you are Indians and maintain standards. Leave abuse to the Pakis. Think of how a reader will react. It can only damage the cause.
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Argue only on facts and logic and reason.
Anything else is noise.
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Thanks Shravan. Looks like there are three types of folks: AlQ, Afghan Taliban and TTP at the recieving end. The first two are related to Afghanistan. The TTP is related to TSP.

It might be useful to create a sub-set of the drone attacks on TTP types from above for informational purposes.

I think unkil was doing a job for the TSP in taking on TTP types. This is bonus for them.
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Around the battlefield: A bus ride around PNS Mehran base
http://tribune.com.pk/story/175212/arou ... hran-base/
The bus then took us to a spot where another terrorist’s body was lying. I looked at him closely and I could tell he resembled his accomplice I saw earlier. The intelligence officer suggested these men may be Uzbeks but he added quickly that nothing could be said until the forensic reports come out.
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^^^ Shravan post the entire article as it gives a comprehensive account of the attack.
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shravan wrote:Around the battlefield: A bus ride around PNS Mehran base
http://tribune.com.pk/story/175212/arou ... hran-base/
The bus then took us to a spot where another terrorist’s body was lying. I looked at him closely and I could tell he resembled his accomplice I saw earlier. The intelligence officer suggested these men may be Uzbeks but he added quickly that nothing could be said until the forensic reports come out.
So looks like they did not hose down the area immediately after the "incident".... means Paquis don't know who has *really* hit them.....yet.
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pgbhat, Thats the problem with TSP. They have so many terrorists that who knows who did what?

Meantime CTs churn away.

A question: How can DNA determine the ethnicity of dead attacker?

It can determine identity of an individual if they have prior sample.

It can determine if the DNA was human or djinn.
But how does it determine ethnicity: Uzbek or Tajik or Chechen?
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Ramana it is plausible that the Eye-Yess_Eye maintains a database of all the G-hadis who attended their ivy league training camps
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They probably maintain some other fluids for breeding purposes.
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Mahendra wrote:Ramana it is plausible that the Eye-Yess_Eye maintains a database of all the G-hadis who attended their ivy league training camps
Those faquers are not advanced enough to do DNA fingerprinting, although they are backwards enough to be b*chods.
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ramana wrote:...

A question: How can DNA determine the ethnicity of dead attacker?

It can determine identity of an individual if they have prior sample.

It can determine if the DNA was human or djinn.
But how does it determine ethnicity: Uzbek or Tajik or Chechen?
Ethnic DNA Testing (Your Genetic Heritage) is quite common.
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Musharraf on BBC newsnight at the moment:

Says:
anti-US sentiment in Pakistan is due to America favouring India over Pakistan
:lol:


Will post video if it makes it onto youtube.
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The Pakis get $18B over last ten years and lots of weapons at cut rate prices. India gets to pay top dollar + for transport aircraft and has sanctions on what it can buy and Mushy has the brazeness to say US support India over TSP!!!
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ramana wrote:The Pakis get $18B over last ten years and lots of weapons at cut rate prices. India gets to pay top dollar + for transport aircraft and has sanctions on what it can buy and Mushy has the brazeness to say US support India over TSP!!!
They are talking about Nuclear deal. India has to make this completely irrelevant in the US Pak dialogue.

India has to demand AQK and compliance of Pak to global stds for any discussion.
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Pakistan's Nishan-e-Haider and Khalid bin Walid:
Chicago businessman Tahawwur Rana said the nine militants killed in the Mumbai terrorist attacks should be given Pakistan’s highest military award and compared the plot’s mastermind to a respected Islamic figure, a convicted terrorist testified in federal court Wednesday.

David Coleman Headley said that Rana told him in 2009 that the Lashkar-e-Taiba members who were killed by Indian authorities during the attacks in the South Asian city that claimed 160 lives should receive the award called the Nishan-e-Haider.

The Nishan-e-Haider is the highest posthumous military award given in Pakistan.

Rana, 50, also allegedly told Headley that Sajid Mir — the man believed to have orchestrated the attacks — should be named “Khalid bin Walid.”
Link:http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/5587 ... tness.html
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Vicky Nanjappa in Rediff

India does not want Pak to disintegrate
David Headley has only allayed our worst fears and whatever is being said at Chicago only confirms our suspicion, official sources travelling with the Prime Minister to Addis Ababa said. We had always maintained that terror outfits have been working closely with the ISI and the David Headley testimony only clarifies our stand.

There has been a sustained hate campaign against India in Pakistan and this testimony will give Pakistan a lot to answer and rest assured this time it is serious and cannot be brushed under the carpet, the official also said. We have been closely assessing the Headley issue and have taken note of it. Pakistan needs to come clean this time. They have to be answerable this time around since many names have come out this time. :eek:

With regard to the talks with Pakistan it is on two different aspects. We want to be and also have good neighbours. But it is also important that Pakistan is serious about combating terrorism emerging out of its soil. Pakistan needs to realise that hate campaigns against India is not helping it. The situation in Pakistan is very fragile and their stability is at stake. India really hopes that wisdom prevails and they wake up to the harsh reality. It would be necessary for them to act in their own interest as well and despite umpteen reminders the Pakistan soil continues to be used for launching attacks. , When the next round of talks are held with Pakistan these issues will be taken upthe official also pointed out.

Despite all these issues with Pakistan we do not wish that the country disintegrates. We wish that Pakistan gets its act together and focuses on development. India really wishes that Pakistan becomes stable and this is in the interest of the stability in the region.

On the ongoing 26/11 trial in Pakistan, the official said that India is putting pressure on Pakistan on this aspect. Their investigation is incomplete and the pace is extremely slow and it looks as though it would take years to complete. The purpose of justice should not be defeated, the official also pointed out. On India’s most wanted error list, the official was non committal in his reply, but also pointed out that we have sent many lists and we hope that Pakistan takes them seriously.

The official also pointed out that during the forthcoming talks with the United States of America scheduled for July all bilateral issues concerning US and India will be discussed. Issues pertaining to our neighbours will also be taken up, he also said. 8)

The Kritika Biswas issue: India will take up this issue for sure. We had expressed our anguish when she had been arrested. We find it intriguing that on a mere complaint she was arrested. Moreover the student who confessed to the crime was just asked to join another school. Why was no real action taken against the actual culprit? It is extremely disturbing when an India is treated in such a ruthless manner. Look at the manner in which this case has been handled over there. This is nothing but double standards, the official also said.
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The cameo act we have all been waiting for. Zaid Mahdi Hamid (pbuh) Latest Verbal Vomit regarding PNS Mehran. If you disregard his high pitch screaming, what he is really advocating is that the pureland is in a state of war and a martial law must be declared. Watch the look on the faces of the two numbskulls in the middle. Priceless.
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AOA

Pakistan may not get EU’s eco package due to India’s resistance

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?pa ... 011_pg5_13
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I don't think the Mehran attack moved the needle much on the Karachi stock exchange KSE100 index. If I am right does that add to the mystery?
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^All the bad news may all ready be priced in! Otherwise the TTP would short the market before each strike!
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Pakistan officers taught anti-US courses: WikiLeaks

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 573070.cms
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Sushupti wrote:Pakistan officers taught anti-US courses: WikiLeaks

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 573070.cms
OT, but I havent seen a website yet with more brazen, screen-filling advertising yet. It's better to post the content instead of putting a link to a page filled with ads.
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pgbhat wrote:
Mahendra wrote:Ramana it is plausible that the Eye-Yess_Eye maintains a database of all the G-hadis who attended their ivy league training camps
Those faquers are not advanced enough to do DNA fingerprinting, although they are backwards enough to be b*chods.
:rotfl:
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Harish wrote:
Sushupti wrote:Pakistan officers taught anti-US courses: WikiLeaks

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 573070.cms
OT, but I havent seen a website yet with more brazen, screen-filling advertising yet. It's better to post the content instead of putting a link to a page filled with ads.
I'll click on those ads out of sheer happiness at seeing this echandee screwing headline :D

6 vs 100 for 17 hrs: Siege rattles army, raises questions
KARACHI: The Pakistani army, which was left red-faced after the US raid that killed Osama, had more embarrassment in store when Taliban militants attacking a naval aviation base in Karachi, fighting off commandos for 17 hours.

It took about 100 commandos, rangers and marines to kill four militants and recapture the base. Two militants are believed to have escaped.

The attack calls into question the military's ability to secure the country's borders and nuclear weapons. How did the militants get into one the country's most heavily guarded bases and hold off commandos and soldiers for so long?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
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6 vs 100 for 17 hrs: Siege rattles army, raises questions
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The attack calls into question the military's ability to secure the country's borders and nuclear weapons. How did the militants get into one the country's most heavily guarded bases and hold off commandos and soldiers for so long?
I had asked this question around the seventh hour of the so-called siege. Its not as if they had to bring in the SSG from Islamabad. A company's worth of SSGN were right there on the base. So either all that crowing about martial prowess is either hokum or there is something black in the lentils! Pakistan being pakistan - it may be a safe bet to think the later.
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The attack calls into question the military's ability to secure the country's borders and nuclear weapons. How did the militants get into one the country's most heavily guarded bases and hold off commandos and soldiers for so long?
Because they are the disgruntled Afghan policemen who recently become bunnies. Before joining Afghan police they are trained commandos in various Indian consulates in Herat and Kandahar. This was part of the India's assitance to Afghanistan.
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Wonder if Headley and Rana are happy?
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A_Gupta wrote:I don't think the Mehran attack moved the needle much on the Karachi stock exchange KSE100 index.
As they say in the stock market circles, the 'attack' was priced in.
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After an eventful May 2011 when OBL was killed and the Mehram base attack, I thought BRF's would enjoy re-reading a speech Jarnail Kiyani made at Kakul Military Academy in Abbottobad , April 23. (I know its old news but as they say, one more instance why Pakistanis are pathological liars :D
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... F24%2F2011
Terrorists’ back broken, says Kayani
Pakistan’s military has broken the back of militants linked to al Qaeda and Taliban and the nation will soon prevail over this menace, the country’s powerful head of the army said in a speech on Saturday that followed criticism from the United States that it wasn’t doing enough to fight militancy.
“In war against terrorism, our officers and soldiers have made great sacrifices and have achieved tremendous success,” he said in a speech to army cadets at Kakul military academy, north of Islamabad, broadcast by state television.
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Shalav wrote:So either all that crowing about martial prowess is either hokum or there is something black in the lentils!
Shalav, you forgot two things. One, the SSGN were facing an equally 'martial' enemy in the form of attackers; they were not the cowardly Hindus. Two, the attackers were more pious than the attacked and Djinns were on the side of the jihadis. They had longer and unkempt beards and shorter shalwars than the SSGN and therefore the Djinss helped them in scaling the walls, firing the RPGs right into the P3C's fuel tanks etc.
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Shalav wrote: I had asked this question around the seventh hour of the so-called siege. Its not as if they had to bring in the SSG from Islamabad. A company's worth of SSGN were right there on the base. So either all that crowing about martial prowess is either hokum or there is something black in the lentils! Pakistan being pakistan - it may be a safe bet to think the later.
Well - here is my favorite photu. The man behind the gun and the chap on his left look alert and anxious. The beard at the back has a calm face - almost a smile. An Osama Lisa smile. He ain't gonna do a thing today. No shootin' anyways. Kewl!

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shiv wrote:[6 vs 100 for 17 hrs: Siege rattles army, raises questions
KARACHI: The Pakistani army, which was left red-faced after the US raid that killed Osama, had more embarrassment in store when Taliban militants attacking a naval aviation base in Karachi, fighting off commandos for 17 hours.

It took about 100 commandos, rangers and marines to kill four militants and recapture the base. Two militants are believed to have escaped.

The attack calls into question the military's ability to secure the country's borders and nuclear weapons. How did the militants get into one the country's most heavily guarded bases and hold off commandos and soldiers for so long?
:rotfl: :rotfl:
That too all the attackers were in a single small building not some 1000 room hotel either. Pakis have truly become a marital race - they get screwed at every corner and have to deliver the goods.
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Christine Fair at it again, this time at the senate committee hearing:

US urged to avoid rash action against Pakistan
“Containing Pakistan is not feasible and attempting to do so isn`t desirable. Pakistan simply has too many asymmetric retaliatory options,” said Dr Christian C. Fair, a faculty member at the Georgetown University.
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shiv wrote:[6 vs 100 for 17 hrs: Siege rattles army, raises questions

KARACHI: The Pakistani army, which was left red-faced after the US raid that killed Osama, had more embarrassment in store when Taliban militants attacking a naval aviation base in Karachi, fighting off commandos for 17 hours.

It took about 100 commandos, rangers and marines to kill four militants and recapture the base. Two militants are believed to have escaped.

The attack calls into question the military's ability to secure the country's borders and nuclear weapons. How did the militants get into one the country's most heavily guarded bases and hold
off commandos and soldiers for so long?

:rotfl: :rotfl:
That too all the attackers were in a single small building not some 1000 room hotel either. Pakis have truly become a marital race - they get screwed at every corner and have to deliver the goods.
What was in that room they had sheltered in, that prevented the paki kamandus from blowing it apart with heavy weapons? I believe the hostages were released/rescued early on in the fight, and were taken away in armored vehicles. What was left in the building then? Copies of the Book of Peace?
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^^^Actually the SSG-N kamandus didn't blow up the building but 2 of the terrorists themselves blew up their soosai vests and brought the building down - that must have halaled a few SSG-N kamandus I am sure.
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Poaks are fast becoming entertainement capital of the World. The never ending drama remains ever enchanting . Long time ago , a Poak Poet said,
Pakistan diya Mauja hi Mauja
Charre Pasee Fauja hi Fauja.
Uppar Unkil, weech Pathan,
Sajje India , Khabbe Iran
Bann ke rahega Balochistan
Sirf Behri rasta reh gya Khulla
Shore michave chahe Mullah
Bhanve Jorr lagaye sarra Jahan
Oothe hi Dubbuu Pakistan.
Jaldi dubbuu Pakistan.
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maal related stuff?

ranjbe, Thats a classic mistake speech that will haunt TSPA for a long time. Good find.

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