Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2011

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby RajeshA » 29 Jul 2011 02:16

A Pakistani's rant about the Muhajir Upper Class being too pro-Indian.

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http://pakindependent.blogspot.com/2010/12/politics-of-ethnicity-and-provincialism.html
http://pakindependent.blogspot.com/2011/07/pakistans-corrupt-and-treacherous.html
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Dilbu » 29 Jul 2011 02:18

Pakistan's military accused of escalating draconian campaign in Balochistan
Suspected nationalist rebels or sympathisers are routinely picked up in broad daylight, taken to centres where torture is rife and, in an increasing number of cases, later found dead on the roadside with a bullet wound in the head.

Local groups have counted more than 180 bodies, mostly of men who reportedly disappeared at the hands of the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) in co-operation with Frontier Corps paramilitaries.

The military leadership is accused of orchestrating the violence as it seeks to crush a small rebel force it believes is being covertly boosted by arch-rival India – an accusation some western spies say is true.

The nationalists are also guilty of gross human rights violations, in particularly the targeted killing of Punjabi "settlers", teachers, politicians and anyone deemed to be co-operating with the military.

A sense of lawlessness and impunity reigns in the province, which covers 43% of Pakistan's land mass but accounts for just 5% of the population. One former detainee said his captors told him: "We can torture you, or kill you, or keep you for years at our will. It is only the army chief and the [intelligence] chief that we obey."

Army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said the accusations were false. "We've responded to all this before. It's basically untrue," he said.

Conflict in the western province receives relatively little attention because unlike the Taliban, Baloch rebels have secular politics and pose little serious threat to the army.

Pakistani security officials estimate there are just 1,000 nationalist fighters, whose leaders are largely exiled in the UK, Switzerland and Dubai. But analysts say the barbarity underscores the fragility of Pakistani unity and could be a harbinger of unrest elsewhere.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby vijayk » 29 Jul 2011 02:51

Dilbu wrote:Pakistan's military accused of escalating draconian campaign in Balochistan
Suspected nationalist rebels or sympathisers are routinely picked up in broad daylight, taken to centres where torture is rife and, in an increasing number of cases, later found dead on the roadside with a bullet wound in the head.

Local groups have counted more than 180 bodies, mostly of men who reportedly disappeared at the hands of the Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) in co-operation with Frontier Corps paramilitaries.

The military leadership is accused of orchestrating the violence as it seeks to crush a small rebel force it believes is being covertly boosted by arch-rival India – an accusation some western spies say is true.
(look! How the racist scum of Guardian inserted India into the whole thing to justify the Paki crimes)

The nationalists are also guilty of gross human rights violations, in particularly the targeted killing of Punjabi "settlers", teachers, politicians and anyone deemed to be co-operating with the military.

A sense of lawlessness and impunity reigns in the province, which covers 43% of Pakistan's land mass but accounts for just 5% of the population. One former detainee said his captors told him: "We can torture you, or kill you, or keep you for years at our will. It is only the army chief and the [intelligence] chief that we obey."

Army spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said the accusations were false. "We've responded to all this before. It's basically untrue," he said.

Conflict in the western province receives relatively little attention because unlike the Taliban, Baloch rebels have secular politics and pose little serious threat to the army.

Pakistani security officials estimate there are just 1,000 nationalist fighters, whose leaders are largely exiled in the UK, Switzerland and Dubai. But analysts say the barbarity underscores the fragility of Pakistani unity and could be a harbinger of unrest elsewhere.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Abhijit » 29 Jul 2011 03:19

RajeshA:
The kid has long found out that if he wanted, he could give the goonda a bloody nose anyday, but why taunt the goonda. The goonda will get a bloody nose, but one would also spoil one's clothes. So simply let the goonda become your well-wisher, because as everybody else in town is now picking on the goonda and giving him a bloody nose, the kid continues to show deference.

I came up with another analogy - that of poker being played between two adversaries. They both started with roughly the same number of chips but today India has a trillion dollar stack of chips while paki has borrowed, begged, stolen a paltry few billions. Every gambit made by paki is a bluff. he doesn't have the cards and he doesn't have the money to counter if India ups the ante. Thus in 65, paki made a big bet on a lousyhand and India upped the ante and ate paki's lunch. In 1971, India did the same and this time it grabbed almost half of paki's stack of chips and threw it away without bothering to gobble it up. Paki then decided to make small bets every now and then and India keeps folding. In 1999 it tried another big bet and the paki lost again. India just keeps folding because it is waiting for the paki to place an all-in bet. Until then we will keep folding or once in a while we will call the paki bets but we will never raise. In the meanwhile, our stack of chips keeps growing and paki's stack keeps shrinking in spite of the hundreds of small bluffs he has made.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Prem » 29 Jul 2011 03:33

Pehle ayye Malik Veena ,Peeche ayye Khar Heena
Kar diya haram kaffir jawan masto ka jeena
EK swal ka jawab tho dho Paki
Bolo, Kitna price Chahiye for next Hasina ?
Naam batao,daam batao orr battao naap o seena
South Asian cousin sub ubb,Bannege ek raat ka Kameena.

Has Poaqs already put RajeshA's plan in action to push their ripe ones in India? The whole sequence resembles that of sending good samples for export purpose and then push in all by mixing it with sub standard maal.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Kanishka » 29 Jul 2011 05:12

Isn't it ironical that the great islamic nation of pakistan, protectors of the ulema and islamic faith,
where women have been considered to be inferior to men and even animals, is now using the looks of a woman to
strike a deal with their arch enemy.
So true is the saying that the pakis will sell their mothers if need be.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby CRamS » 29 Jul 2011 05:31

Any comments/bragging from TSP on Hina's Delhi sojourn?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Jul 2011 05:36

Abhijit wrote:does it befit the citadel of islam that a true daughter of islam is sent to the den of sdre yindoos, where obviously the coward and ugly yindoo menfolk are slobbering over her? you can see the lust in the eyes of yindoos that are surrounding this glorious islamic woman. khuda na khasta, many of them must have touched her while they were in such close proximity on the pretext of security. This daughter of islam in the glorious tradition of fatima and ayesha and other glorious and pious islamic women of yesteryear has faced the libidinous yindoo men alone while the so-called defenders of islam are busy killing the taliban gazis that are purer than those who claim to do imaan, takwa and jihad fi sabillah?

where is the allauddin khilji, the glorious islamic gazi conqueror who forced the coward yindoo rajput to give a mirrored glimpse of his wife Maharani Padmini? Instead, now the yindoos are getting to see the daughters of islam in full uncovered face, without even the ruse of a mirror! khilji never managed to touch Padmini while the lowly securitywallah sdre yindoos of today are probably touching the pindliyon da gooda of this glorious islamic daughter. if this is not a defeat of the citadel of islam, i don;t know what else it is?

:D

It was actually amusing to see that yesterday's papers had set aside more space for Hyena's style and less for substance. Anyone who watches Pakistan will realise the the papers got it perfect, for once. This Rabbani visit was zero substance. The papers, at the best of times are concerned less about news and more about grabbing eyeballs. Hyena Rabbani served that purpose perfectly well. There was no news to report - what "news" do you get out of this pre-meditated chai-biskoot session being conducted because unkil wants it to happen and GoI toes the line and makes it appear that al iz quiet for Pakhis in the eastern front? The only "substantive issue" was Hyena's dress and the oh so coy girly girly brushing her hair away from her face and inability to look people in the eye with resolute firmness. The shy bride whose hormones are busy getting her ready for a groom rather than discussing some boring international issues with a 50 years past his prime SMK. Her body language was - "Don't look at me, look at my uterus"

And in America and Pakistan it looks like this non event is being reported as great diplomacy where heavy "substantive issues" issues are being pondered upon. What a laff! :rotfl: Clearly the visit is aimed at fooling the public into thinking that there is peace being talked about between India and Pakistan - so that the Pakistani army cannot pretend to sit on its shit-stained backside and claim they need to watch India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Anindya » 29 Jul 2011 05:44

And in America and Pakistan it looks like this non event is being reported as great diplomacy where heavy "substantive issues" issues are being pondered upon. What a laff!


Shiv - unfortunately, from what I can make out through several "friends" is that the US is still very sensitive to Pakistani strategic interests visavis India and is pushing India to make concessions. This message was stringly delivered through Hillary's visit.

Your article on US perfidy would certainly be helpful, at this time.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Jul 2011 05:52

Anindya wrote:
And in America and Pakistan it looks like this non event is being reported as great diplomacy where heavy "substantive issues" issues are being pondered upon. What a laff!


Shiv - unfortunately, from what I can make out through several "friends" is that the US is still very sensitive to Pakistani strategic interests visavis India and is pushing India to make concessions. This message was stringly delivered through Hillary's visit.

Your article on US perfidy would certainly be helpful, at this time.


That is well known to every one of us. And well known in India and the US will only get chai biskoot. Now don't you think it is absolutely priceless that India gives Rabbani a rousing welcome and fawning admiration of dress and style with zero mileage on anything that matters? The US can take its "substantive issues" and stuff them is the message the US will get. What the US does is the difference between 10 and 20 C-17, the difference between 22 Apaches versus 22 Mi 28s in Indian skies. It is the US that has to make "concessions" and stop supplying "substantive issues" like F-16s and AMRAAMs to Pakhanastan.

The fact that the shitistan army is under pressure is clear because the Hyena had strict instructions not even to mention Cashmere - knowing that wily old Indian jackals would embarrass Pakistan leading to a new GUBO session for them. So they sent a non entity whose only demand was "Look at me"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Anindya » 29 Jul 2011 06:00

Now don't you think it is absolutely priceless that India gives Rabbani a rousing welcome and fawning admiration of dress and style with zero mileage on anything that matters?


Shiv - apparently, these journalists are being asked by our GOI to take a softer stand on Pakistan. Some have refused, but the pressure is there. No different from what happened during the peace moves in 2003. But, i would assume that some of our DDMs in stead of asking hard questions, swooned about the color of her handbag, as a result of such directives.

Exactly, what the Pakistanis did not want to achieve in terms of perception.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Kanishka » 29 Jul 2011 06:26

I am begining to think the obvious.
Sooner or later the pakis will realize all these chai-biskoot sessions have yielded nothing....
Then what?

I guess more chai-biskoot sessions to blame each other for the failures.. :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Jul 2011 06:30

The significance of the Pakistani appointment of a total zero like Rabbani as FM and the continuation of these "We aim to achieve nothing beyond continuing to talk" FM level talks lies in the context of the broader issues that we all know but often forget when the talks actuallly happen.

Pakistan is very much a failing state on US life support, and is obsessed with hitting India. If Pakistan was one individual he could perhaps receive therapy - but the Pakstani obsession with India is the carefully nurtured post 1971 hatred that consumes largse sections of the Army and population. So a large proportion of Pakistanis obsess with India and the US that is pouring in arms aid is unable to make Pakistanis think anything different and is unable to exert that extra bit of "control" on Pakistan that is exerted by Pakhanastan's India obsession.

All these decades the US has indulged that obsession and armed and aided Pakistan, idiotically imagining that if Pakistan were armed against India and India put under pressure, the Pakis would do the US's job. That was a stupid US miscalculation and they now understand that although there may be nincompoop stragglers in the US whose tubelights are still only flickering. The US knows damn well that both direct and indirect pressure on India will only harden India's stance. All it needs is for the US to "insult" Indians enough and a "Right wing nationalist government" might explode yet another nuke - killing all their plans in Pakhhanastan.

The only route available is to put up a pretence of peace where India appears less threatening and ask/coerce India to help by talking. The US has probably forced Pakistan to send non entity Rabbani so she does not make any "mine is bigger" statements. That is why she did not even mention the K word. India nevertheless did something that no BRF jingo seems to have figured out. While India's "soft, diplomatic side" was busy celebrating pretty reproductively active Paki women, the hard as nails military side was off on one side saying "Hatf? Humph! Our response will be absolutely violent" It is BRF blindness to fail to see that the civilian government and armed forces in India are part and parcel of the same bureaucratic structure that is designed to speak with different voices or with one voice as necessary for a given situation. So India has met the twin obligations of "talking" sweet nothings with Pakistan while maintaining its position about what we will do to Pakistan if they act irrationally.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Jul 2011 06:39

Both SMK & HRK are putting up a pretense of talking. If TSP has a HRK, we had our SMK even earlier. The real talks are taking place elsewhere.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shaardula » 29 Jul 2011 06:54

what shiv said about ddm and the eye candy is pretty chankian. i hope thats true. in hindsight, it looks to be true. i have been an average follower of her events. and all i can remember is the noise about her looks. i know nothing of what she said.

i love the notion of the googly that all this is. in a calculated move tsp puts her in as mukhota. india takes her up as only the mukhota and therefore completely nullifies her.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby abhishek_sharma » 29 Jul 2011 06:59

SSridhar wrote:The real talks are taking place elsewhere.


Are you referring to back channel talks?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Jul 2011 07:12

abhishek_sharma wrote:Are you referring to back channel talks?

I believe that the talks are taking place at every level except at the level of the two foreign ministers. Both are dummy pieces.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby CRamS » 29 Jul 2011 07:28

SSridhar wrote:
I believe that the talks are taking place at every level except at the level of the two foreign ministers. Both are dummy pieces.


Can you speculate as to what the content of the talks are about?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Theo_Fidel » 29 Jul 2011 07:35

The 1947 war began as an indigenous uprising in different parts of the then State of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). It is a matter of historical record that Pakistan had no clear state policy on how to use force against India’s illegal invasion of J&K. The ragtag Poonchis and other Kashmiri groups, with help from tribesmen and some elements of the Pakistani military, managed to capture the territory which now forms Azad Kashmir. If they hadn’t, Pakistan would have today needed just the present size of its army to defend the northern salient.
The 1965 war was a mistake. Much has been written about it inside Pakistan. But there is absolutely no reason to be apologetic about making an armed attempt to get back territory in occupation of an adversary. Pakistan never violated the Indian territory: It crossed what was then the CFL (ceasefire line). The fact is that it was India that aggressed against Pakistan directly when it attacked across, and violated, the international border.


Someone has managed to get under the skin of the Haider dude. Either that or his Rawalpindi lifafa showed up early. He's resorting to wholesale make believe now. What fun.

A country that genocidally chased 10 million across the border and raped and murdered millions more is the non-aggressor. :eek: TSP should be glad it got its 93,000 shameless back. In any other country they would have been hanged out right.

Ashish Taseer had it exactly right. There is no liberal movement on the other side to help stabilize TSP. At leat this Haider dumbo is not part of it.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Prem » 29 Jul 2011 07:51

Kanishka wrote:I am begining to think the obvious.
Sooner or later the pakis will realize all these chai-biskoot sessions have yielded nothing....
Then what?
I guess more chai-biskoot sessions to blame each other for the failures.. :lol:


Its not Chai Biscuit but Hot Dog and Bun party for show . This is Uncle Sam's party in which Indian bring Hot Dog Krishna and Paki bring Desi Bun Khar . Chef You Ess A had put them together to make this fast food to its own taste/ purpose.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby SSridhar » 29 Jul 2011 08:03

Dilbu wrote:India is the revisionist power
The 1947 war began as an indigenous uprising in different parts of the then State of Jammu and Kashmir (J&K). It is a matter of historical record that Pakistan had no clear state policy on how to use force against India’s illegal invasion of J&K. [b]The ragtag Poonchis and other Kashmiri groups, with help from tribesmen and some elements of the Pakistani military, managed to capture the territory which now forms Azad Kashmir. . . . But there is absolutely no reason to be apologetic about making an armed attempt to get back territory in occupation of an adversary.

As everyone knows Ejaz Haider is the RAPE and the mouthpiece of the PA, having served the Army before. He usually reflects the current thinking of the PA. The above quoted part captures PA's lies, arrogance and belief in terrorism. He is whom I classify as a a Strategic-Depth protagonist, waiting to be swept off the feet by the Reverse-Strategic-Depth AQAM.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby AnimeshP » 29 Jul 2011 08:13

Apologies if posted earlier ...

ISPR and Photoshop

Flying generals
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5 SDREs (using the equation 1TFTA = 10 SDREs)
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Singha » 29 Jul 2011 08:15

my spider senses say unless there is another big event like 9/11 or a deep cleavage in US-China relations , the country of pakistan has kind of outlived its utility to the wider world. they produce nothing the world really needs, they produce everything the world dislikes like terrorism, smugglers, drugs, caliphate advance guards.

money is going to be hard to come by, even khan is struggling to maintain his std of living, which in real terms has been declining for some time ... (hence all the polite talk of "working till 70") . pakistans population and water issues are exploding. this and lack of developmental spends , more than ethnic fires will tear apart the country piece by painful piece. Pak army already claims 90% of whatever chips are on the table. after they reach 100% then what - 301% cannot be manufactured out of thin air unlike paper claims

we have seen pakistan, our grown up children will see some different creatures in its place. cases of countries splitting whether peacefull or violently are rife - bangladesh, yugoslavia, sudan, ethiopia, czechoslovakia, ussr, east timor, namibia just in my lifetime alone. germany and yemen are two cases of joining up. there is NOTHING SACRED OR PERMANENT about Paks current shape and size - its open to adjustments. it was a country created on the map, not by civilizational history and it can be amended as many times as needed to bring lasting peace.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Airavat » 29 Jul 2011 08:50

Jinns and Demons:

A pir in Ghakkarmandi has been accused of torturing a 16-year-old boy to exorcise him. An FIR has been registered against Master Boota Rehmani after a medical examination done at a rural health centre confirmed torture. “He would place the knife on my skin after heating it on a gas stove,” the boy said. “He said this would injure the demon and force him to leave me,” he added.

Azmat’s father Muhammad Yousaf said he used to complain about severe headaches and he would faint. “We were certain that he had been possessed. Some neighbours recommended we take him to Pir Rehmani,” they said. Rehmani’s neighbours said the man was a retired school teacher. They said he claimed to possess spiritual powers and djinns who he said helped him during exorcisms.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby gakakkad » 29 Jul 2011 08:55

I doubt that the Rabid Hyena Donkey episode was due to Khan pressure. It served TSP well though (they were being guboed from everywhere). But people forget that it served GOI (BUT NOT REPUBLIC OF INDIA) well too. Because for 2 days news channels stopped broadcasting the scams and concentrated on the looks and the style of the hag. I did not get time to see the news channel debates etc but I am sure in most channels they would have been on WKK lines.

Another 9/11 and TSP surely ceases. That may however be the strategy on some jernails. Liquidating the country , squeezing money into their personal bank accounts and fleeing the country when KHAN attacks. Only one problem though. If Khan attacks TSP to retaliate against another 9/11 it will need India's help . Will GOI oblige ? :?:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Jul 2011 08:59

shivajisisodia wrote:Someone just mentioned to me, sir, that your objection is that this is not mentioned in the correct thread. If that is so, then, may I request the admins to either put it on the correct thread, or let me know what the correct thread is or if there is no thread suitable for this, please delete this post.


Not only was it not in the correct thread - you also used an age old trick to put it in this thread in a manner that was probably unintentional, or at least you did not do with malicious intent. You played the "Cow is tied to coconut tree" trick. A student prepares to write about the cow in an exam, but the question paper asks him to write about the coconut tree, so he writes "The cow is tied to the coconut tree.." and then proceeds to write about the cow.

You are upset at Indians and their lack of nationalism, so you attribute excessive strength to Pakistan and a relative weakness to India as a consequence of Pakistan's strength, and then you invite people to a debate on how to change things in India. All this on a thread dedicated to Pakistan and Pakistan alone. That is the "Cow is tied to coconut tree" trick
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby shiv » 29 Jul 2011 09:01

gakakkad wrote:I doubt that the Rabid Hyena Donkey episode was due to Khan pressure. It served TSP well though (they were being guboed from everywhere). But people forget that it served GOI (BUT NOT REPUBLIC OF INDIA) well too. Because for 2 days news channels stopped broadcasting the scams and concentrated on the looks and the style of the hag. I did not get time to see the news channel debates etc but I am sure in most channels they would have been on WKK lines.


Not true Kakkadji. The BJP was in a mess in these last few days and could have done with some relief. The media never took their focus off Karnataka's CM Yediyurappa all though the Hyena episode. So in fact Hyena would have served as a distraction for Kangress. It did not.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby A_Gupta » 29 Jul 2011 09:09

Not sure where to put this:
http://www.thefridaytimes.com/beta2/tft ... logstory=4
What is Liberal Islam? (a Pakistani view)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby menon s » 29 Jul 2011 09:19

PNS Mehran attack: For any one interested, in this please read the comments on this article.
http://truthspring.info/2011/07/11/paki ... of-things/

“These Orions had been used for surveillance in Baluchistan where the Americans are actively involved in terrorist activities. All their activities were monitored and the wireless messages were recorded. This is the capacity of the Orion. And therefore that could have been a great embarrassment for the Americans if it leaked out. Hence the Orions had to be destroyed so much that the recorders and black boxes were destroyed too along with the nefarious evidence.
” The attackers came direct onto the two parked Orions because they were guided through Satellite GPS. The Americans at the base were acting as FACs to direct them. They had finished their jobs and were no longer required. Their safety demanded they be not available for any interrogation etc.
” Rehman Malik was in charge of the operations, and thus the peculiar orders to the army unit, ostensibly for the safety of his American friends.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby anishns » 29 Jul 2011 09:41

In other news...

Honour killings: Man guns down six daughters

FAISALABAD:

A man gunned down six of his daughters on suspicion that two of them were in relationships with boys in the neighbourhood.

Pakistan has repeatedly been termed as one of the least women-friendly countries. In June, the Thompson Reuters Foundation ranked Pakistan as the world’s third most dangerous country for women.


Nothing new....just another feather in pakhanastan's cap!
Feel bad for the women :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby abhishek_sharma » 29 Jul 2011 09:53

NYT Editorial on Pakistan

Message from U.S. State dept

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby chetak » 29 Jul 2011 10:16

Delusions of grandeur.

CRamS wrote:Any comments/bragging from TSP on Hina's Delhi sojourn?




Indo-Pak talks: Pak media hails 'new era' of cooperation





Hailing the "new era" of cooperation in Indo-Pak ties, the Pakistani media on Thursday said the two sides have revived the pursuit of an "uninterruptible" dialogue process :eek: as their foreign ministers held substantive talks, including on Kashmir-centric confidence-building measures to ease trade and travel across the Line of Control.

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The Urdu press had almost similar coverage, with the headline in the leading Jang daily saying: 'Pakistan, India agree to reduce differences over Kashmir.'

Nawaiwaqt newspaper reported, "Kashmiris will get six-month multiple visa, talks for peaceful Kashmir solution will continue."

"As the Indian media swooned over Hina Rabbani Khar's social graces and fashion sense, Jane Birkin handbag, Chanel sunglasses, her pearls and her diamonds, substantive gains were made in the people-to-people component of India's relations with Pakistan in her talks with Indian Foreign Minister S M Krishna," :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby CRamS » 29 Jul 2011 10:20

abhishek_sharma wrote:NYT Editorial on Pakistan

Message from U.S. State dept


I was a tad disappointed that they did not mention LeT, but at least some consolation that they did mention TSP's exaggerated fear of India (if anybody has to fear, it is India of TSP's pigLeTs and its avowed first use of nukes).

Also even NYT seems to be throwing in a towel of sorts


If there is any possibility of a political deal with the Taliban, Pakistan will have to be involved.



How true is this? US can easily threaten to unite Pashtuns on both sides of the Durrand line. Then what will TSP do? Plus US can militarily threaten to carpet bomb TSP and take out its crown jewels. So, I think withholding aid is only the tip of the ice-berg of leverage USA has over TSP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby chetak » 29 Jul 2011 10:52

Moronic DDM :roll:

High on fashion: Birkin, pearls a few of Pakistan foreign minister's favourite things

NEW DELHI: Hina Rabbani Khar made up for all Pakistani ministers in the past. Quite apart from that winning smile, which has had India tied up in knots since she touched down on Tuesday, the Pakistani foreign minister proved to be a spot-the-brand delight for the fash frat on this side of the border.

Her oversized Hermes black Birkin bag was among the top trending items on Twitter on Wednesday as India's Khar-ites contemplated the purported Rs 17-lakh price tag. She alighted on Tuesday in a blue tunic-pants ensemble teamed up with pricey South Sea pearls glistening at her neck and ears and Roberto Cavalli shades covering half her face.

On Wednesday, the colours were more muted - an off-white ensemble set 34-year-old Khar off to advantage against 78-year-old S M Krishna's mauve tie and blue suit. A diamond ring on her left hand was missing on Wednesday.

The open-toed sandals were the only exception to the covered-up look the debutante minister maintained throughout her visit. Her chosen colour on Tuesday evening was a royal blue, which led several Pakistani 'tweeple' to gush, "She's better looking than the new Duchess of Cambridge. So there, world".

For dinner on Wednesday, Hina chose a green ensemble.

She apparently loves her Birkins, which can cost as much as $100,000.

Hina belongs to one of Pakistan's landed elite, is enormously wealthy, and owns Polo Lounge, an upscale restaurant in Lahore. In 2010, though, she - along with 25 other ministers of Yousaf Gilani's cabinet - didn't pay income tax. Over the past few years, she has paid agriculture tax of (Pakistani) Rs 7,500 but nothing under the head of income tax.

Sources said her social graces left little to be desired. She was properly complimentary about the tandoori prawn, pathar kabab and biryani that made up lunch at Hyderabad House.

Having boned up on Krishna's weakness for tennis, Khar was overheard telling him how she met Rohan Bopanna, who teams up with Pakistani Aisam Qureshi, and made a pitch for resumption of cricketing ties.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Dipanker » 29 Jul 2011 11:20

abhishek_sharma wrote:NYT Editorial on Pakistan

Message from U.S. State dept


Slowly the writings are starting to appear on the wall for TSP. GUBO or .....

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby VikramS » 29 Jul 2011 11:42

CRamS:

You did not answer the question I asked:

Please propose an alternative and do a cost benefit analysis.

Your passion about the issue is well known.

I would understand if a newcomer expresses frustration. But to see a person of your experience and motivation, to continue to roil in impotent rage, is disconcerting. Your energies and passions are better spent in more constructive endeavors rather than the :(( :(( :(( .

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Anindya » 29 Jul 2011 12:58

From http://tribune.com.pk/story/219105/clinton-vows-to-fight-republican-aid-cuts-for-pakistan-israels-neighbors/

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that she will recommend to President Barack Obama that he veto any bill that proposes new conditions to US assistance to its allies, including Pakistan, in a letter that the top US diplomat sent to the chairperson of a Congressional panel that voted to approve the bill.


In a letter to Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (a Republican from Florida), the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Secretary Clinton said that the effect of the restrictions in the bill would be “debilitating to her efforts to carry out a considered foreign policy and diplomacy, and to use foreign assistance strategically to that end.”

With regard to Pakistan specifically, Clinton said that the bill “toughens the certification criteria for assistance under the current Kerry-Lugar-Berman Pakistan legislation and removes altogether that law’s waiver authorities.”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Pratyush » 29 Jul 2011 14:12

All is quite on the western front. This friday :(( :((

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): June 30, 2

Postby Lalmohan » 29 Jul 2011 14:28

Dipanker wrote:
abhishek_sharma wrote:NYT Editorial on Pakistan

Message from U.S. State dept


Slowly the writings are starting to appear on the wall for TSP. GUBO or .....


reading this, i am left with an overwhelming feeling that pakistan is ripe for a khushboo revolution (jasmine style) - regime change and a return to popular democracy. however the americans may have realised too late that there is no demographic to appeal to - to bring about such a change/revolution against the army

years from now someone will write up the US handling of Pakistan as a case study in how NOT to do it


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