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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Jagan » 24 Aug 2011 17:33

gakakkad wrote:The news section of BR mainsite posted 4 reports of that paki pilots apology... We know that all this was propaganda...Why were 4 different reports on that story published?

Web master please check the logs around that time... It is likely that BR mainsite security is compromised.....



its not compromised / its not propaganda - its 'news' / multiple reports for the same topic are a fairly common occurring event.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 17:35

BENNY wrote:
Yusuf wrote:I was waiting for Benny to come back and answer the questions i asked, but he has still not bothered.

For the information of members here, Benny is a moderator on the Fake Indian forum, hand in gloves with his Puki friends who launch attacks on Indian sites. He is known as Spark in that forum. Has a history of trolling i gather (kinda expected if you are in the company of pigs from pak).

So now that answers his diversionary replies to straight questions asked.


Huh.. Another of your Mullah prediction... Why should i bother to reply. :rotfl:


A reply that does not surprise me. Just proved me right that you know jack about anything. That you are a troll and worse up, you are sucking up with our country's enemies.

And then you try a cheap shot with the Mullah thing. Oh the very kinds you are serving for from across the border. Come up with a better reply.

Once again I ask, is IDF puki owned or not? Simple yes and no

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Rahul M » 24 Aug 2011 17:42

Yusuf, don't bother, everyone knows the truth anyway.

Benny, you are not going to last long if you keep this up.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 17:42

shiv wrote:Fake Paki sites like Indian defence can always attract senior retired armed forces personnel who are just getting on to the net and finding their place online. But for that fake sites have to put up a good show of being Indian without too much bullshittin. I think it is great for us to know who is who. Once we know a site is Paki - a flood of shot dark rice eating and cow worshipping Indians need to register and troll the site if there is a forum and introduce khujli into the gaands of the goatlover Pakhanis there led by their marvelous general Assphuck himself.

Of course I know you Pakis are reading all this but there is zilch you can do about it. Make more fake sites. Pay kafirs back the aid money your beggar fathers get for you. :mrgreen:



No te worry is serving Indian officers who might get compromised by these pukes. We know of many serving officers who are active. I would not want them to go to that forum.

And no we should not go to fake sites to troll as that is exactly what they want. More trolls = more $$$

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 17:45

Rahul M wrote:Yusuf, don't bother, everyone knows the truth anyway.

Benny, you are not going to last long if you keep this up.


No mate let him be MHO. let him open his mouth and either come out with the truth or accept he is hand in gloves with scums who target Indian sites and worse target our nation as a whole. Shame on you Benny aka spark.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby BENNY » 24 Aug 2011 17:53

Yusuf wrote:
Rahul M wrote:Yusuf, don't bother, everyone knows the truth anyway.

Benny, you are not going to last long if you keep this up.


No mate let him be MHO. let him open his mouth and either come out with the truth or accept he is hand in gloves with scums who target Indian sites and worse target our nation as a whole. Shame on you Benny aka spark.


You draw own conclusions and doing personal attacks from post 1 ... and expect me to answer ... hilarious.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 17:55

Personal attack? I asked you a straight question twice. No answer from you except a stupid diversionary one. People are looking for the truth.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Avi J » 24 Aug 2011 18:05

Benny aka Krish, search for a place to hide because from Trivandrum to U.K. you will have no place to hide your baki love and tell your protector baki fathers to not meddle with indian websites.

Seniors of BR , i am new here and pardon my language , this very baki site named IDF are the hackers of erstwhile indiandefenceforum.com in 2008 , these same guys aka benny and his clan assisted his baki mates , the evidence of this is proved by the fact that this same very site hosts the hacked php database of erstwhile IDF .

these very forum celebrated the 4500 member count yesterday out of which 2700 members are from old IDF hacked database tables, guys do check their member list they have merged the php tables of erstwhile idf db , so many of you who may not even have registered there can find yourself in the userlist there.they have taken over the name and pretend to be the return form of IDF under the baki burkha.

These guys to this day have not learnt any lessons , so if any of you who were members of the original IDF in 2008 and find your usernames registered there today in that fake baki forum , see for yourselves these very benny and his ILK is responsible for hacking indian websites and they have been doing this for ages .

I have more to reveal , i am going to expose them in the www soon after which they will find no place to run but to their favourite paki land and paki protectors.
This benny and his ilk are the termites that is destroying india from within.first we need to take care of these traitors then take care of their baki baaps.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Niraj_D » 24 Aug 2011 18:37

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Can anybody spot difference between numbers??

Benny, we don't really need forensic experts to know the truth here.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 19:10

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It has come to our notice that some site is providing false information to our members here. If you have ANY question about IDF feel free to PM me. I can give you any details needed and clarify any misconception provided by the mod/admins/suck-ups of other sites who are not in good terms with IDF.

These people are taking advantage of our WDN partnership (with six+ other websites) to spread false information.


Admin accepting he is part of puki network.


Can you imagine, "partnership" with pakis!
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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Niraj_D » 24 Aug 2011 19:24

If people have any doubts, let me present next round of dossier.

Google Adsense is a online advertisement provider. Every subscriber who registers for such service gets a unique client id by google which is used to show online advertises which fetch revenue for its clients.

Open those websites in browser. Hit Cntrl+U. Now you can see the actual code of that site. I did the same, and look what I found out.

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The client showcasing these ads is the same on all 6-7 websites under WDN (worlddefencenetwork.Kom)* which includes fake indiandef site.

Pakis think they are smart azz & can establish entire network of military sites while manipulating defence facts & political opinions across nations.

Fakers your little party is over, run back!

* Replace K with C
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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 19:34

Google ads revenue increases if Indians give them "eye balls".

Seriously guys, Indian forumers need to be educated about this and those who are now informed about this and are also contributing to such sites should stop doing so.

Request staff of BR to put out a note for all it's members to desist from going to puke and it's proxy sites.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby shiv » 24 Aug 2011 19:52

Yusuf wrote:Request staff of BR to put out a note for all it's members to desist from going to puke and it's proxy sites.

A warning to BRFites who bring info from such sites is what I used to do when I was adminullah. But mow I am mango abdul. People who are members of puki sites should stay on there and not bring stuf on here - that has been my favorite jihad for over a decade. However - apart from cautions it might not be that easy to stop Indians from going to those sites. Especially with humongous numbers of Indians only now getting access to the net - I guess we may well have another 100 million odd online in the next few years.

But we may get lucky by then Pakistan may have ceased to exist :D

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

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Request staff of BR to put out a note for all it's members to desist from going to puke and it's proxy sites.



Putting such a warning on the main site might actually increase their hit rate . Because people would go there out of curiosity.. Thats normal tendency .... Kids who are warned by parents to not visit dirty sites are actually more likely to go there... It would be like giving them free publicity..
Frankly I feel there is no reason to panic... How much strategic impact did fai have? Was he able to get unkil do anything about cashmere ? So this site is nothing but a load of crap in the cyber space.. No significance... Only thing that I am concerned is compromise of personal email ids if these guys attempt to break into other people's servers..

Especially with humongous numbers of Indians only now getting access to the net - I guess we may well have another 100 million odd online in the next few years.

But we may get lucky by then Pakistan may have ceased to exist



Most of these 100 million odd people would not be interested in defence stuff...

Something tells me that pakistaniyat would long outlive Pakistan the "country"...

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby shiv » 24 Aug 2011 20:16

"Warning BRFites" and telling them where not to go is a bad idea. We can tell them its a Paki site and tell them that nothing is to be ported from there to here. No links. No cross posts of discussions. But beyond that such warnings are pointless.

india is a free country and Indians have the right to choose to be idiots. Nothing can stop that right from being expressed. We can hope that they express their right on Paki run fora and stay there. That's about as far as we can go.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Rahul M » 24 Aug 2011 20:20

Yusuf wrote:<snip>

Admin accepting he is part of puki network.
hllp://www.indiandefence.com/forums/f2/ ... ndex4.html

Can you imagine, "partnership" with pakis!

yusuf, could you remove the link and put a screen grab of the page in stead ? we do not want to divert traffic to those places.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 20:56

Rahul, I have edited the link. Please do the same in your post quoting me.

I can't upload screen shot from the iPhone. Will do it tomorrow from my laptop.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby shiv » 24 Aug 2011 21:04

^^
Rahul's link is already fixed and goes nowhere

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 21:08

shiv wrote:^^
Rahul's link is already fixed and goes nowhere


He wanted me to remove the link and quoted te same. If he wants to keep it, no problem.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Rahul M » 24 Aug 2011 21:13

thanks.
and try using the link in my post. :mrgreen:

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Pandav » 24 Aug 2011 21:21

Hmmm yusuf i have question for you.
If you knew about benny before then why you allowed him to join DFI??why didn't you blown up his cover before?
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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 24 Aug 2011 21:27

We cannot stop anyone from joining. To continue maintain forum rules. He wasn't all that active anyways.

The only time I saw him was when we started the thread about the fake. Just like how he came here to "argue" he came there.

Why he was allowed to stay for any duration will be clear in the future. Stand by.

@ Rahul, lol :)

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Pandav » 24 Aug 2011 21:57

Well Yusuf/Nrj/other no doubt you people really did a comendable job to uncover but am still concern about indians who post there.They are generating $$ for them .....

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Avi J » 24 Aug 2011 23:35

Respecting the rules and the respect that bharat rakshak commands , it was extremely important that we bought this topic out over here , bharat rakshak is a place which is read and followed by millions world over so the baki connection with that site is just a small part of the game , to expose their larger motives aims its better we create a database blogspot and expose these baki loving indian traitors.

This is just the lid of the can coming off , because once the can is open stinking nature of these net terrorists and their agents can be rightfully judged.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Reddy » 25 Aug 2011 04:28

gakakkad wrote:Putting such a warning on the main site might actually increase their hit rate . Because people would go there out of curiosity.. Thats normal tendency .... Kids who are warned by parents to not visit dirty sites are actually more likely to go there... It would be like giving them free publicity..
Frankly I feel there is no reason to panic... How much strategic impact did fai have? Was he able to get unkil do anything about cashmere ? So this site is nothing but a load of crap in the cyber space.. No significance... Only thing that I am concerned is compromise of personal email ids if these guys attempt to break into other people's servers..


I think we can put "information note" rather than "warning note". We can list all legitimate defense sites related to India. This will not cause forbidden fruit syndrome.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby shiv » 25 Aug 2011 05:39

Reddy wrote:I think we can put "information note" rather than "warning note". We can list all legitimate defense sites related to India. This will not cause forbidden fruit syndrome.


Yes. In fact I was going to cross post some of the screen grabs here into the FAQ thread.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Yusuf » 25 Aug 2011 08:22

Does BR have any iPhone app? I am not able to post some screen shots that I have gathered. Some shameless stuff.
Will do it later in the day otherwise once I reach office.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby archan » 25 Aug 2011 08:53

Thread split from original thread in order to make it more visible.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby shiv » 25 Aug 2011 10:18

I had a very quick look at this Indiandefence forum.

At first glance I am totally unable to pinpoint any specific issues with it as being against India interests. I am not attracted to the forum but that may be me. A lot of fora don't attract me because of the fairly superficial level of discussion and that is true of BRF as well sometimes.

In general I find "forum wars' to be pointless and counter productive. As I said earlier the best policy would be to warn people if we believe that there is suspicious stuff going on there and prevent cross posts of discussions and/or media. The idea that these fora make money and get hits from Indians is as disingenuous as the idea of posting info about that site on here. That has actually got the site far more hits and attention than it would otherwise have got.

There are dozens of people who have been thrown out of BRF or who do not like BRF. They will be the first people to go to alternae sites. What are we going to so about them? if they are the hyper-patriots that they often claim to be - I am sure that they can figure out of a site is promoting iffy stuff.

i suggest we just let this "Indiandefence forum" and site drop out of our radar apart from the general policy of not allowing cross posts of discussions and media. Any discussion of a topic on Indian defence forum should take place on that forum and not on here. if someone takes a BRF discussion there - that is his problem but he will be pressurised not to bring back responses from there to BRF especially if he gets his ass whupped on that forum as a BRFite cross posting stuff from here on to that forum.

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Narad » 25 Aug 2011 10:35

James B wrote:
Who are you kidding BENNY?

Oh, this guy BENNY is the willful Indian working for Paki masters much like Gautam Navlaka, Harsh Mander and other assorted anti-nationals who were working as useful idots for Paki propagandist 'Fai'.


BENNY gets pampered in defpk by fellow India hating pakis. He is a "respected" senior member over there. His views are no different that those on FAI's Indian guest list.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby chackojoseph » 25 Aug 2011 11:22

James B wrote:Guys, there is a Pakistani run defence forum under the url - http://www.indiandefence.kom (replace k with c in .kom) masquerading as an Indian defence site. Please be aware of it. This is very much like 'Fai' case, Indians thronging to a fake forum. I suggest be careful with this site and refrain from posting there and funding their site in any manner.


This is a Pakistani owned forum. defence.Lk (l =p) is an associate. They have a turkish forum too. They are content farms. They are copying and pasting the articles from Indian sites and are featuring high on google search.

I have made them move out of their former server after that did not agree to take off my articles. If anyone is facing such issue with them, mail me. i will help you to complain to their server.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby Yusuf » 25 Aug 2011 11:35

Oh they copy alrite. In fact they copy paste member posts from DFI. they start other non news based threads on the lines of DFI as well.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby Indrajit » 25 Aug 2011 11:41

I used to visit that site regularly,got banned after delivering choicest of Hindi & Bengali abuses to the Mods & Admins over some issue.I was surprised to find some NDA Grads posting excellent pics on a regular basis,those to some extent stopped after I pm them against doing so,perhaps my banning has to do with this,now I know.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby krishnan » 25 Aug 2011 12:28

I did my bit , and posted on FB wall regarding this, viewable to everyone. Dunno if this will help in any way

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby Yusuf » 25 Aug 2011 12:52

Ok here are some of the screen shots.

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In one, the webmaster is showing Indian defence as its network site.

Look at Sparks aka BENNY's post, on defpuki.
All i can say is "khaate yaha ki, vakalat vahan ki".

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Re: Indian Defence Websites Watch

Postby Narad » 25 Aug 2011 12:54

James B wrote:
And then see the contact number for both these Paki sponsored foras. And these foras have a strong backing by ISI going by the propaganda that Paki site carries on.


I would have loved to post a screenshot of the profile of its one of the lahoree amriki admin, where he flaunts his links to ISI. There used to be a section in profile page of every defpk member which shows from where did the member got to know about that site.

The admin had specifically attributed it to some paki who according to him worked for ISI.

Indians throng that site and and generate value, legitimacy and also $$$ which is fed back to the site and its paki sister concern and pro-paki propagandu is promoted.

Anything speaking critically of pakistan/ Kashmir/ Islam is immediately removed and user banned.

Words like "afpak" and "POK" are banned from use and automatically starred. (And benny thinks that the forum is neutral. :lol: )

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby James B » 25 Aug 2011 15:03

It is all OK to go to Paki sites as we already know what to expect from then and we can take necessary precautions without giving out our personal data one or the other way. The problem is with Paki sponsored Indian forums where Indians providing personal information thinking that it is an Indian site. That is where the danger lurks.

Imagine a military professional (MP) going to the fake Indian forum and providing his e-mail address, regiment details or other details in order to get a MP tag on the forum. That can be used by the Pakis and its ISI paymasters one or the other way. That is the reason I said avoid the fake forum. That said, it is up to the discretion of the members to go there or not.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby chackojoseph » 25 Aug 2011 15:20

Other day I had to tell one Indian expert to not to use that site. He later apologised. Also, both the spammy forums claim that its Indians who are posting the Indian content on their forums.

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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby shiv » 25 Aug 2011 15:24

James B wrote:Imagine a military professional (MP) going to the fake Indian forum and providing his e-mail address, regiment details or other details in order to get a MP tag on the forum.


Good. I hope it happens. It's got to happen first before Indians wake up to the idea that they might be looking like idiots - a lesson that every net savvy person learns quickly.

Someone's ass has to catch fire before he realises that he's done something stupid. This sort of forum is a variation of phishing. There will always be suckers who are trying to get Abacha's Nigerian money.

Let people go there and screw themselves. We can't really be worrying about where Indians choose to go in the internet.

And folks - OK - now that this forum has received so much publicity on here - just go on there and see if the content is good for anyone who is not brain dead. The forum is dead stupid. Anyone who likes being on there should be encouraged to stay on there and become Grand poo.buh member with 786 posts or whatever. It's every man for himself. Some people need a real woman for lovemaking,. Others will wank off looking at a donkey.
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Re: Alert! a paki owned 'Indian' defense forum, please read

Postby James B » 25 Aug 2011 15:30

nukavarapu wrote:^^^ Don't you think providing regiment level information and personal details like actual name, contact nos. and primary email address should be haram in any forum? And that should be irrespective of the fact whether its Desi or Paki or yankee. If any of the military personnel are doing that, then it seems they lack proper education in the nuances of cyber discussions. What makes more sense would be to start some enlightenment campaign where all kinds of people should be informed about the code of conduct / rules of engagement pertaining to cyber world.


Some people can provide such details in the enthusiasm of getting a Military Professional Tags which is somewhat common in many defence forums.


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