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^^^^

Dude, that little girl's house (the real actress) in the Mumbai slums burned down like 3 times already. That movie is 100% real.

Rakshak must mean "Sweden" or "Switzerland" in Hindi. I swear that's where you guys think you live.
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That movie is 100% real.
Chinese IQ 200%
Rakshak must mean "Sweden" or "Switzerland" in Hindi.
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Wongs gotta go.

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China's a 'Roach Motel'; Don't Trust the Numbers: Chanos
"Take a look at the Chinese stock market. It's gone nowhere despite having one of the highest rates of growth of any emerging market, any market," he said. "GDP growth has been 9, 10 percent for 10 years and you've made no money in the Chinese stock market."
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wong wrote:^^^^

Dude, that little girl's house (the real actress) in the Mumbai slums burned down like 3 times already. That movie is 100% real.
And it came in the news and was given wide coverage (though I dont remember if it burned down 3 times as you claim). In China, it would be buried literally and figuratively - can't have the rest of the world think the Gleat nation is anything short of gleat, can we? We still remember what you did after your high speed rail crash - buried people alive with the train! Now that's reality trumping even the wildest imagination :lol:

And of course in China such a girl would not even to allowed to act in any foreign movie, leave alone get any press coverage and assistance if her shanty burned down. Forget beggars, you guys got some pretty faced kid to lip sync just becoz the actual kid doing the singing didn't look cute enough?! :roll: How can the rest of the world acknowledge China's greatness when China itself is ashamed of its talent.
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How else to copy/ape uncle. After all every kid on TV in massaland is also cute and so it shall be in ding dong land.
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^^^^^

And are you guys forgetting the "cute" little girl who sang during the Beijing Olympics? Er sorry I meant "lip synced" the song sung by a "not so cute" little girl in some dark corner?

Wong ji is displaying typical cognitive dissonance of a brainwashed drone.

He just can't figure out how the Indians allowed Danny Boyle to shoot a film like that which included sections that could be described as "poverty voyeurism" and let it be shown around the world and even win Oscars.

Remember Tom Cruise's Mission Impossible 2 (I think it was 2 or was it 3?). A lot of it was shot in Shanghai and showed off all the things that give a hard on to the drones, huge skyscarpers wide streets and the general "Manhattan look" that the drones love to ape. But guess what? It was not screened in China and you know why? That's because it had a small clip towards the end which shows Tommy boy running after the bad guys through the alleys and "slum-like" area of old Shanghai.

Now you can't have that can you? The glorious Pepul's Republic can't have slums - or beggars - can they? How dare the film's producers show such a thing to the world? If they had been Chinese they would have been sent to "re-education camps".

Don't ask for a ban on Wong or others of his ilk, you should rather pity them for the dissonance they feel when they come to a forum which represents a society which discusses its achievements as well as failures all in the open - a society that's confident enough not to hide it's warts behind closed doors and under the carpet. Their "punishment" is the fact that they have to spend so much time here and see an alternative world view which goes against everything that they have been brainwashed with. I know they get 50 cents a pop but even then, would you guys like to do what he does? Nah, knowing you dothi shivering SDRE In'juns I'm sure you wouldn't even touch such a job with a bargepole.

Jai Hu, Jai Mao, Jai Ho!
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Apple Supplier Foxconn Says Fight at Plant Spread Into Larger Unrest - Wall Street Journal

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BEIJING—A fight at a northern Chinese factory campus owned by major Apple Inc. supplier Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. escalated into larger-scale unrest early Monday, according to the company and local police.

A spokesman for Hon Hai's Foxconn Technology Group arm said the situation was "under control," but added that the plant would be shut for Monday. "Our decision is to take a day off for that particular plant today," said the spokesman, Louis Woo.

An investigation into the cause of the riots, which left 10 injured, is being carried out, according to a report from China's state-run Xinhua news agency. A local Public Security Bureau officer confirmed that there were "problems" at the plant overnight and that the police were dealing with the situation.

Mr. Woo wouldn't say how many people were involved, but workers at the plant contacted over the Internet estimated several hundred to several thousand employees were involved.

The plant, located in Taiyuan in China's Shanxi province, employs 79,000 workers, Mr. Woo said. It produces electronic components for automobiles and consumer electronic components as well as moldings. It wasn't immediately clear which customers' products are made at the plant.

Hon Hai is a major contractor for Apple and other electronics companies. The plant is one of more than 20 manufacturing facilities around China.

Hon Hai has been under a microscope by labor groups for its work practices. The company has defended its conduct, but earlier this year it agreed to change its labor practices after an outside audit of its Chinese factories found widespread breaches of work rules, including 60-hour workweeks and other health and safety violations.

Apple declined to comment and referred questions to Foxconn.

Mr. Woo said a fight between two different work groups in a dormitory eventually spread into greater unrest at the factory. He wouldn't elaborate on the amount of damage at the plant, but photos spreading around Chinese microblogs Monday morning showed smashed store windows, an overturned car and riot police.

A worker at the factory contacted directly through Sina Corp.'s Weibo microblogging service said the main violence broke out at the southern gate of the campus, where motorcycles were burned and store windows were smashed around midnight. By 1 a.m. he said, paramilitary and other special police forces had arrived.
Karma is catching up, for all these years, Chinese-infested red unions are trying to bring India down with their union tactics, now they will face ultimate wrath of labor unrest. It will be not decades, but within a few years, China will be engulfed with utter chaos.
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iPhone manufacturer closes plant after 2,000 workers clash

TAIPEI: Taiwan's Foxconn TechnologyGroup, which assembles Apple's iPhones and makes components for top global electronics companies, closed a plant in China on Monday after about 2,000 workers were involved in a brawl at a company dormitory.
It was not clear how long the shutdown would last at the plant, which employs about 79,000 people in the northern Chinese city of Taiyuan, while police and company officials investigate the cause of the disturbance.
Foxconn said the trouble started with a personal row that blew up into a brawl. But some people posting messages on a Twitter-like site said factory guards had beaten workers and that sparked the melee.
"The plant is closed today for investigation," Foxconn spokesman Louis Woo told Reuters. An employeecontacted by telephone said the closure could last two or three days.
Pictures from just outside the plant and provided to Reuters showed broken windows at a building by an entrance gate and a line of olive-coloured paramilitary police trucks parked inside the factory grounds.
The unrest is the latest in a string of incidents at plants run by Foxconn, the trading name of Hon Hai Precision Industry and the world's largest contract maker of electronic goods. Hon Hai's Taipei-listed shares fell 1 percent on Monday in a broader market that rose 0.2 percent.
Drawing attention as a supplier and assembler for Apple products, the company has faced accusations of poor conditions and mistreatment of workers at its operations in China,where it employs about 1 million workers.
The company has been spending heavily in recent months to improve working conditions and to raise wages.
Foxconn said in a statement the incident escalated from what it called a personal dispute between several employees at around 11 pm. on Sunday in a privately managed dormitory, and was brought under control by police at around 3 am.
"The cause of this dispute is under investigation by local authorities andwe are working closely with them in this process, but it appears not to have been work-related," Foxconn said. Hon Hai said about 2,000 workers were involved.
Comments posted online, however, suggested security guards may have been to blame.
In a posting on the Chinese Twitter-like microblog site Sina Weibo, user"Jo-Liang" said that four or five security guards beat a worker almost to death.
"Frustration"
Another user, "Fan de Sa Hai", quoted a friend from Taiyuan as saying guards beat up two workers from Henan province and in response, other workers set bed quilts on fire and tossed them out ofdormitory windows.
The accounts could not be independently confirmed.
The state-run Xinhua news agency quoted a senior official with the Taiyuan city government as saying investigators initially determined the fight broke out as workers from Shandong Province clashed with workers from Henan.
The agency reported earlier that about 5,000 police were sent to end the violence, according to Taiyuan City's public security bureau.
Foxconn cited police as saying 40 people were taken to hospital and a number were arrested, while Xinhuaadded that three people were in serious condition.
Calls to the Taiyuan police were not immediately answered, while an official at the plant declined to comment when reached by telephone.
"Clearly there is deep-seated frustration and anger among the employees and no outlet, apart fromviolence, for that frustration to be released," Geoff Crothall, communication director at China Labour Bulletin, a labour rights group in Hong Kong, said in a statement.
"There is no dialogue and no means of resolving disputes, no matter howminor. So it is not surprising when such disputes escalate into violence."
Foxconn does not confirm which of its plants supply Apple, but an employee told Reuters that the Taiyuan plant is among those that assemble and make parts for Apple's iPhone 5.
In June, about 100 workers went on a rampage at a Foxconn plant in Chengdu, in southwestern China.

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Is China burning?

Forbes spells out why the latest anti-Japan rioting and violence in PRC is just a minor hiccup in the march to everlasting entitled greatness of the middle kingdom. Sample this:
The big draw for manufacturers, China’s consumer market, is not panning out as many expected. Consumption is already low—in no country does consumer spending contribute less to GDP—and retailing is already being adversely affected by the accelerating downturn.

Moreover, the prospects for Japanese companies will be even worse than it is for others. Who in China is going to buy a Toyota when last Saturday, in an incident now well-known throughout the country, a 51-year-old Chinese man in Xian was savagely beaten—he is now paralyzed and mostly unable to speak—because he was driving a white Corolla? And don’t think this affects only Japanese companies. China’s new ultra-nationalism, on display this past week, can also affect brands from other countries.
Bah. All the japs have to do is give up claims on those two measly islands. And all will be well. No?
By now, it’s apparent the Communist Party has been promoting anti-Japan sentiment. There were virtually no anti-Japan protests in the early years of the People’s Republic, when two strongmen, Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping, ruled the country. Now, however, two weak leaders, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, have resorted to whipping up nationalist sentiment to bolster the Party’s faltering legitimacy.

Because senior Party leaders are failing to maintain unity at home, it’s likely they will continue to press Tokyo over their claims to the Senkakus. In recent weeks, Beijing has upped the stakes by sending patrol vessels and threatening to flood the disputed area with “more than 1,000” craft.

Unfortunately, Beijing in recent years has lost its ability to compromise its territorial claims, some of which are outlandish. Beijing has laid down a marker for itself and cannot yield an inch. This makes each claim a flashpoint.

And Tokyo is beginning to realize there is no appeasing Chinese leaders. On the 14th, the official China Daily, by making a reference to Kume in the Ryukyus, laid the historical groundwork for raising a claim on that Japanese island chain, which is near the Senkakus. Said Hissho Yanai, a Japanese activist, to the New York Times, “If we let them have the Senkaku Islands, they’ll come after all of Okinawa next.”
Something India kows pretty well about chini pakiness when it comes to land claims... BUt nah, the sino-japan relationship in economic terms is way too important for even the "weak" CCP to attempt a serious fight, right? Right?
In fact, Beijing officials have talked about taking the Ryukyus after they get the Senkakus. And we should not think the Chinese are limiting their anger to the Japanese. Last week’s events have been compared, in their intensity and their aims, to the anti-foreigner Boxer Rebellion, which began just at the end of the 19th century.

That, unfortunately, is a historical parallel we should remember. Rioters on Tuesday attacked and damaged the car of American ambassador Gary Locke while he was in it.

China at the moment is unstable, and that puts foreign businesses there—not to mention the Chinese economy—at risk.
Meanwhile minor hiccups continue as always.... jai hu, jai dengu, jai mao.
Second, Beijing is making itself an unreliable member of global supply chains. It took a big step down that road in late 2010, when, in clear violation of its World Trade Organization obligations, it imposed a ban on exports of rare earths to Japan as a means of punishing Tokyo over the Senkakus, which the Chinese call the Diaoyus. China, at the time, also imposed such bans on the European Union and the United States.

In recent days, China has again attempted to use its economic muscle. It is not issuing visas to Japanese companies and not inspecting in a timely manner Japanese goods as they enter the country. One Japanese transport machinery firm was prevented from bidding on a project.

About 41% of Japanese companies polled by Reuters admit recent tensions in China are affecting their business plans. Some of them say the unstable situation may force them out of China. Reuters states that relations between the two countries—the first and second largest economies in Asia—“have hit their lowest point in decades.”

And economic ties could get worse. Last Monday, a Chinese Ministry of Commerce official, Jin Baisong, wrote in the official China Daily that Beijing should take “strong countermeasures, especially economic sanctions” against Japan. And on the same day People’s Daily, the Communist Party’s chief propaganda organ, said it could use economic sanctions to force Japan into one or more “lost decades.”

Threats like these may work in the immediate term—as they did in 2010 when Tokyo was pressured to release a Chinese captain who rammed two Japanese coast guard vessels—but in our just-in-time world they inevitably erode confidence in China. The last thing Beijing should be doing at this moment is reminding the global business community that it cannot be trusted.
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Apparently 5000 riot police were gathered to control a 2000 rioters.

Shows the paranoid state of PRC
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RamaY wrote:Apparently 5000 riot police were gathered to control a 2000 rioters.

Shows the paranoid state of PRC
It is all a drama, staged by the communist government. They know that China is heading towards an economic meltdown, and require something to hold their nation together. They tried provoking India, but India did not bite the bait. Now they are biting Japan, over nothing.

The Japanease have reason to fear, as they never admitted the attrocities committed in China, during the war. There are still hard feelings. Chinese media routinely (and rightfully) keep reminding people of the Japanese crimes.

Now Japan will look for somewhere else to produce the electronics. India has good relations with Japan :D
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Rishi,

I would not give the Chinese an out over Japan. Han China has expressed similar sentiments over centuries and has exterminated many a local kingdom and population group over the centuries. Several large Ethnic groups simply ceased to exist after the Han Chinese arrived. The Japanese were trying to out China, China itself. They got the ideas of Imperial domination and extermination from the Chinese themselves. Even today the extermination of other groups continues in Mongolian region and Tibet and Kazakh areas.
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Rishirishi wrote:The Japanease have reason to fear, as they never admitted the attrocities committed in China, during the war. There are still hard feelings. Chinese media routinely (and rightfully) keep reminding people of the Japanese crimes.
Before making this assertion, please read what Justice Radha Binod Pal, one of the judges of WWII military court for Japan, had to say about this.

Japan did compensate PRC for whatever they did, but PRC will never drop this from this agenda as it is their major trump card to mobilize its public against Japan. Whatever Japanese do, they are not going to be satisfied. Surely, this will backfire after some time.
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^^^^
More fun news from Guangdong
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... unami.html
A TSUNAMI of bubbles left residents terrified after bursting over the banks of a river.

The 50ft wall of a foam pushed its way along the river and past palm trees along the embankment.
The soapy suds — believed to have come from a chemical spillage — led to widespread panic and evacuation in Xintang, Guangdong province, southern China.

Officials later claimed that the bubbles had been caused when a non-toxic deodorant was washed out of a household rubbish tip into the river by heavy rainfall.

A spokesman said: “People are right to be cautious but it is harmless. It made very large bubbles when it went over a waterfall but apart from one or two dead fish, it is harmless.”
There are some pretty pictures of the soap bubbles on the website as well. On the bright side, I bet the city will be very clean after this.
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Cross post from strategy thread. This is how majority of Chinese live. Panda expects all of them to move to city and live in tiny $300,000 flat with Buffalo....

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kish wrote:Life in rural China

Reality check for supel dupel power

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Villagers live in courtyard homes surrounded by high walls. Inside, people, pigs{how did a paki got in}, cows, chickens and other animals battle for space.

Donglu village has running water and electricity, but homes lack many basic essentials. There are no toilets.


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To supplement his income, the farmer also has two cows and a few dozen chickens. He recently bought a piglet{biladels are fond of pakis it seems. Everyone keeps one at home}.
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Political education

Slogans are often used in China - even in villages - to urge the masses to follow the correct political line.{In other words "no freedom", if any one dare questions the party dictates will be dealt with accordingly. }


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Despite its local importance, Chiping is a world away from modern cities such as Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou.
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^^^
looks like our villages more or less
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The Coming Collapse Of Consumption In China
The downward trend in the figures becomes even more worrying when you strip out of them inflation and exclude government procurement and store inventory, which are inexplicably included. The growth of “retail sales” in China, at least as we think of the term, is probably in the low single digits at the moment.
Shanghai statistics :mrgreen:
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^^^

I was travelling by the Indian Railways this weekend, and I could not but get over the fact that they were overcrowded and teeming with the masses; a seemingly inexorable demand problem.

Then my mind was reminded of Chola, an old poster over here, who wrote in FAVOUR of Chinese-hyper-expenditure on fixed asset investments like high speed rail, because demand in piss poor countries for infrastructure is always going to be sky high.

And then I read a report in the paper about how GMR and Lanco infra were making strong losses this year.

What gives? Can any one point me to a paper or a book or an author who's papers I can read about, who expounds on fixed asset creation and financing and recovery of monies please?

Why isn't fixed asset investment, like, say, investing in a factory which makes Palmolive soap bars and sells the soap bars to the consumers? What mechanisms can be instituted to make it that way?
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Organ Harvesting from Living Falun Gong Practitioners by the Chinese Government

http://en.minghui.org/emh/156/

Mounting evidence tells a terrible tale of mutilation and murder in China. Witnesses and Chinese physicians reveal that persons affiliated with the Falun Gong cultivation practice are being killed for their organs, bones, and tissues, which are sold and transplanted at enormous profit. The perpetrators are officials of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), acting in collaboration with surgeons, police, prison authorities, and military officials. Victims are held in concentration camps prior to having their organs harvested. As many as 36 such camps are said to exist, the largest holding up to 120,000 persons. Multiple accounts suggest that a flurry of organ harvesting is now taking place, coupled with the killing of camp detainees; CCP authorities are reportedly hastening to destroy all evidence of the organ harvesting atrocity. The move follows exposure by Western media and human rights groups.

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hanumadu wrote:The Coming Collapse Of Consumption In China
The downward trend in the figures becomes even more worrying when you strip out of them inflation and exclude government procurement and store inventory, which are inexplicably included. The growth of “retail sales” in China, at least as we think of the term, is probably in the low single digits at the moment.
Shanghai statistics :mrgreen:
Gordon Chang is literally the Taiwanese who cried wolf.

ignorable.
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http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/china-n ... 98239.html
After Bo Xilai’s Purge, Web Searches for ‘Organ Harvest’ Suddenly Allowed

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when, soon after it was announced on Sept. 28 that ousted Politburo official Bo Xilai was being expelled from the Party, searches for highly sensitive political terms like “live harvest” and “bloody harvest” were allowed on several popular websites, analysts began trying to figure out what it meant.A similar sequence of events took place back in March, after Wang Lijun fled to the U.S. Consulate in Chengdu. He was thought to have divulged to U.S. officials his involvement in organ harvesting activities in China’s northeast.From 2003 to 2008 Wang was security chief in Jinzhou City and ran a medical laboratory attached to the Public Security Bureau, focused on practical organ transplantation research. he terms, related to organ harvesting in China, were apparently uncensored for searching soon after it was announced that Bo would be expelled from the Party (Weibo.com)
In an award speech that was posted online, Wang admitted to participating in “thousands” of on site transplantation operations. Given the context of his remarks, analysts came to the provisional conclusions that many of the transplantations were conducted while the victims were still living, and that most of
the victims were probably practitioners of the Falun Gong spiritual discipline, a popular traditional practice that has been persecuted in China since 1999.Analysts formed the opinion that top Party leaders were aware of Wang’s crimes, and by effectively publicizing information about his connection with them, they were attempting to sanitize, however dubiously, the Communist Party as a whole from involvement.Sina and Tencent microblogs also lifted bans on the names of Bo Xilai, Gu Kailai, and Wang Lijun. Gu Kailai is Bo’s wife and was recently given a suspended death sentence for the murder of British businessman Neil Heywood.The censorship change, though subtle, sparked discussion and reflection by netizens.
“Such heinous crimes have already been made known in international society, but not many people are aware of it in China where information is heavily blocked,” wrote one user. “The instigators are the most evil extreme leftist forces. They must be accounted for and tried!” The term “leftist” refers to the hard-liners in the Party.“Live organ harvesting probably strikes the raw nerve of the evil Party, so they dare not talk about it,” a user of Tencent wrote.“Governor B [Bo Xilai] committed crimes of live organ harvesting and the production of human specimens. When will his crimes against humanity be settled?” another user wrote.Another wrote, “They dare not let the public know of live organ harvesting and organ sale, because they would perish once it becomes known.”“Everyone knows that the Communist Party takes meticulous care with every statement on the Bo Xilai issue, because it is such a sensitive case. They pay attention to every punctuation mark,” said analyst of Chinese politics Lin Zixu, in an interview with Sound of Hope, a Chinese-language radio network based outside of China.He said that many people inside China, including Party leaders, already know about Bo and Wang’s involvement in organ harvesting. “Those people in the Party who weren’t involved know that sooner or later this is going to blow up, and then they’re going to have to say that they were investigating it the whole time, so they can push the responsibility onto Bo Xilai and others,” he said.Lin continued, “But at this point everyone also knows that the fundamental reason this happened in the first place was due to the Communist Party’s system.”
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BBC's new China vs India. It's fun to see both good and bad sides of two nations

China on 4 wheels:







India on 4 wheels:





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The week-long national holiday do show the sign of "collapse" or "bankruptcy" in China. LOL

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Visitors gathered on the Great Wall of China outside Beijing on October 3, 2012. Hundreds of millions of tourists crowded into scenic spots, resorts and other tourism destinations scattered across the country while millions of visitors arrived in the capital city for China's National Day "Golden Week" holidays.

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People stand next to their cars during a traffic jam in Shenzhen city, Guangdong province Photo: Rex Features
When 1.3 billion people all go on holiday at the same time, a little chaos is perhaps to be expected.

But it was a generous decision by Chinese politicians to grant free road travel, by suspending motorway tolls, that saw hundreds of thousands of drivers spend the first day of the Mid-Autumn Festival on Sunday in gridlock.

Long tailbacks were reported across the country, with 24 major motorways in 16 provinces effectively transformed into enormous parking lots as 86 million people took to the roads, a 13 per cent increase on last year.

It was the first time in a decade that China's motorways had been toll-free and many families were keen to take advantage of the largesse to get away during the eight-day national holiday.

Frustrated drivers were spotted walking their dogs along the hard shoulder, playing tennis, dropping to the tarmac to do press-ups, or simply snoozing in their cars. Thousands of mobile phone pictures were quickly posted by drivers onto the internet, and the jams were a trending topic on Weibo, China's equivalent of Twitter.
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Zhang Zefeng, a driver in north China's Shanxi Province, told Xinhua he had expected jams, but that he managed to save 100 yuan on his journey. "It is worth waiting for a while on the road to enjoy the toll exemption," he said.

There was also tragedy on the road, when a 25-week pregnant woman was caught in a jam in Jiangsu province on her way to visit her family.

After travelling just 15 miles in three hours her waters broke and the log jam on the hard shoulder delayed an ambulance. In the end, she miscarried.
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So 1.3 billion people hit the road???

so what for is the railway or the airports for ?? frankly if such wide roads can cause so much chaos ...i wonder what kind of development is happening there
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Boy is the that road in CHina Broad, I can count 14 cars and almost in a neat line. Indian road ethics has a long way to go.
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looking at the yellow rumble strip type things could be a wider section near toll plaza.
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China Railway Passenger Traffic up Sharply During October Holiday


By Aaron Back

BEIJING--Passenger traffic on China's rail system was up 11.6% in the six days to Oct. 2 from a year earlier, the Ministry of Railways said in a statement Thursday, showing robust demand for travel during the country's week-long holiday.

A total of 42.89 million people rode on China's railways during the six-day period, the ministry said, with railways carrying 7.15 million passengers on Oct. 2 alone, up 10.9% from a year earlier.

Chinese businesses and government offices are closed the entire week of Oct. 1, in a so-called "golden week" holiday, to mark the anniversary of the founding of the People's Republic of China, as well as the traditional Mid-Autumn Festival.

In a note to clients Thursday, Bank of America-Merrill Lynch economist Lu Ting said robust travel and tourism during the holiday should help dispel concerns over a "hard landing" for the Chinese economy.

"People who believe China is mired in a crisis, with slumping growth and falling stock prices, could be shocked by this strong tourism data," he said.


Critics of China's rigid holiday system, however, say the week-long holidays--one in October and the other typically in January or February to mark the Lunar Near Year--lead to excessive traffic and other disruptions.

Mr. Lu said that domestic consumption could be boosted further by "replacing the golden week with freer choices of holidays." He also criticized the government's policy of canceling highway fees during the holiday, saying it exacerbated traffic jams.
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Meanwhile...

http://www.chinalaborwatch.org/news/new-433.html

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(New York) China Labor Watch (CLW) announced that at 1:00PM on October 5 (Beijing time), a strike occurred at Foxconn’s Zhengzhou factory that, according to workers, involved three to four thousand production workers. In addition to demanding that workers work during the holiday, Foxconn raised overly strict demands on product quality without providing worker training for the corresponding skills. This led to workers turning out products that did not meet standards and ultimately put a tremendous amount of pressure on workers. Additionally, quality control inspectors fell into to conflicts with workers and were beat up multiple times by workers. Factory management turned a deaf ear to complaints about these conflicts and took no corrective measures. The result of both of these circumstances was a widespread work stoppage on the factory floor among workers and inspectors.

The majority of workers who participated in this strike were workers from the OQC (onsite quality control) line. According to workers, multiple iPhone 5 production lines from various factory buildings were in a state of paralysis for the entire day. It was reported that factory management and Apple, despite design defects, raised strict quality demands on workers, including indentations standards of 0.02mm and demands related to scratches on frames and back covers. With such demands, employees could not even turn out iPhones that met the standard. This led to a tremendous amount of pressure on workers. On top of this, they were not permitted to have a vacation during the holiday. This combination of factors led to the strike.

That quality control inspectors would also strike is of no surprise. According to workers, there was a fight between workers and quality control inspectors in area K that led to the damage in inspection room CA, the injury of some people, and the hospitalization of others. After this, another similar incident occurred in area K, once again leading to quality control inspectors getting beat up. Yesterday, inspectors in area L received physical threats. When inspectors reported these issues to factory management, the management simply ignored and turned their back on the issue. For these reasons, all day and night shift inspectors carried out a work stoppage today that paralyzed the production lines.

CLW Executive Director Li Qiang said, “This strike is a result of the fact that these workers just have too much pressure.”

Update:

From October 1st to October 8th, it is the national Holiday in China. Foxcom required workers in the ZhengZhou Factory to work during this time to meet the production demand of iphone 5. On October 5th, workers from the OQC (onsite quality control) line went to the factory and then left due to the conflicts. Foxcom denied that these workers strike. However, according to the workers, they went on strike instead of not volunteering to work overtime. October 5th is a holiday, the workers are paid 3 times their normal pay. These workers went back to work on
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Yawn.. The power of Marketing.

A SDRE now sells hair removal cream to women in China with little body hair in the first place.

Reckitt's Veet makes hair apparent for women in China
“We are not here to remind the Chinese how much hair they have,” Sehgal said. “Our job is to talk about the fact that beautiful smooth skin is critical and grooming is critical. Women make their own conclusions as to what that means.
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Gleat Chinese Plant with Patliotic Workers Reading out passages from Chailman Mao's Lil' Red Book and of course creating Piss, Plogress and Plospelity. With gleaming nets to keep out the evil round eyed devils and the the Japanese devils out of course.
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^^^

And i thought that the nest were to prevent the workers from committing suicide. By netting then, mid air. :P

A visit to a reeducation camp is a must for ignorant SDRE like me.
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Another leg of HSR is going to operate soon in northern China. World's largest high speed railway network keeps growing faster :)

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Ice train begins trial operations

Railway built to withstand extreme cold prepares to welcome travelers

A high-speed railway linking major cities in Northeast China began trial operations on Monday, ahead of its launch at the end of the year.

The new line, which links Dalian, a port city in Liaoning province and Harbin, capital of Heilongjiang province, is the world's first high-speed railway built to withstand extreme cold weather conditions, according to a statement by Harbin railway authorities.

A test train departed Harbin on Monday morning, arriving in Dalian three-and-a-half hours later. The journey takes nine hours on an ordinary train.

The new line will make 24 stops and connect 10 cities, including the capitals of Liaoning, Jilin and Heilongjiang provinces.

Construction of the 921-kilometer line began in 2008. It is designed to reach a top speed of 350 kilometers per hour, but will travel initially at a maximum of 300 km/h, railway authorities said.

The line has to withstand extreme temperatures as low as -39.9 C in winter and as high as 40 C in summer, which poses major challenges to the trains and railway construction.


Zhang Xize, chief engineer of the Harbin-Dalian high-speed railway program, said the low temperatures in Northeast China could threaten the roadbed and rail track and ice could also disrupt the power supply and signal system.

"We researched the experiences of high-speed railway line construction in relatively cold areas of Germany and Japan and took reference from road, water conservancy and electric supply projects in frigid areas," Zhang said.

The railway is fitted with special facilities to remove snow and ice from the line and to protect its power supply systems from the elements.

"We have used all the measures that we can come up with to ensure the safety of this project," said Zhang.

The line could provide a boost to the tourism industry in Harbin and Dalian, both major vacation destinations.

Harbin is notable for its beautiful ice sculptures in winter and its Russian legacy, and Dalian is well known for its mild climate and multiple beaches.

"The railway comes at the right time as I was planning to take my daughter to see the ice lanterns in Harbin this winter," said Liu Yan, a 38-year-old resident of Dalian.

The new railway is also expected to ease pressure on the current rail system during peak holiday times.

Li Xiaoyan, a 29-year-old English teacher from Dalian, said it was difficult to buy a railway ticket to return to her hometown in Heilongjiang province during the Spring Festival and National Day holidays because trains between Dalian and Harbin were fully booked.

"Both cities are popular tourist spots and there are few discount air tickets. Usually it takes me several hours to book a railway ticket. I hope the new high-speed railway will help alleviate the situation," she said.
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Less than 2 weeks ago, China opens Zhengzhou – Wuhan high-speed line.

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The first high-speed train between Zhengzhou and Wuhan starts running on Sept 28. [Photo/Xinhua]

A new high-speed railway, which connects the capital cities of Henan and Hubei provinces in Central China, was put into service on Friday, creating a new north-south corridor in the national high-speed rail grid.

The first pair of bullet trains started to run on the Zhengzhou-Wuhan line at 9 am on Friday.

The new line decreases the travel time between the two cities to two hours, down from four and a half hours.

Construction began on the 536 km line, with a total investment of 57 billion yuan ($9 billion), in 2008, with a top designed speed of 350 kilometers per hour.

For now, the new line will carry 24 pairs of trains every day, with a speed limit of 300 km/h, railway authorities said.

The line is a major part of the 2,300-km Beijing-Guangzhou high-speed railway, China’s longest high-speed line in planning, which is expected to open by the end of the year.

China slowed progress of high-speed railway construction after a deadly train crash in East China’s Wenzhou in July 2011, but high-speed railways are still growing to meet the huge market demand. Authorities plan to build more than 16,000 km of high-speed lines by 2020.

Zhang Junbang, head of the Zhengzhou Railway Bureau, said at the line’s opening ceremony that the new line is connected with many existing high-speed lines, creating a larger fast-track network in the region with great social and economic benefits.

The line, which extends the Wuhan-Guangzhou line to the north, links many major railway hubs, such as Zhengzhou, Wuhan, Xi’an, Guangzhou and Nanjing, on a grid connected by high-speed railways.

"The line will increase passenger flows to stimulate local economic development, which will help build inland Central China as an economic highland and serve the national strategy of going west," Zhang said.

Cozy trip

"Taking the high-speed train is a convenient and comfortable experience," said Robert Speed, a consultant with the World Wide Fund for Nature, who was among the first group of passengers on the line.

He said he prefers the train over flying from Zhengzhou to Wuhan because the trip is faster and cheaper.

"The high-speed train is driven by electricity, so it is also a more eco-friendly travel way for mass transportation," he said.

Kang Qiang, a businessman from Zhengzhou who frequently travels between the city and Wuhan, said the new line will be his first choice in the future.

"On the train I don’t have to turn off my cell phone, and the seat provides a power supply that allows me to use my laptop," he said.

"Also, trains are more punctual in departure and arrival than planes," he added.

The new line will also help relieve pressure on the railway network for the National Day holiday travel peak, which starts on Sunday.

Train Safety

The Zhengzhou Railway Bureau said in a statement that every effort has been made to ensure safe travel on the new line, which has set high standards on its building process, operational system and overhaul.

"Drivers are a crucial part to guarantee our bullet trains race safely on track," the bureau said.

According to the statement, high-speed train drivers were selected from among thousands of drivers of regular trains, who can get a license with safe a driving record of no less than 500,000 km on rails.

Eligible candidates then have to pass exams and get one month of intensive training.

In addition, the bureau said every night, workers will spend at least four hours inspecting the track and related facilities for maintenance. A pair of trains without passengers will take a test run in the early morning to confirm road safety.

Rail network

The line is one more piece of the jigsaw that is China’s grid-shaped high-speed railway network, which underlines Wuhan, a port city on the Yangtze River, as an important traffic hub, experts said.

Hu Runzhou, vice-president of the Wuhan Institute of Traffic Engineering and a railway expert, believes the city’s unique location advantages will be further recognized, as Wuhan is now crisscrossed by several high-speed railways.

So far, travelers to Wuhan have been able to take bullet trains to Guangdong province’s Guangzhou on the south, Anhui province’s Hefei on the east, and Yichang, Hubei province.

And the new railway path will link the city to the north region — even to Beijing by the end of the year — making Wuhan the meeting point of the planned north-south Beijing-Guangzhou line and the east-west Shanghai-Wuhan-Chengdu line, Hu said.
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^^
Do they have cranes and earth-movers under the bridge to bury the carriages in case of accident?

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OK I can see a small digger onree. Not enough IMO.
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rsingh wrote:^^
Do they have cranes and earth-movers under the bridge to bury the carriages in case of accident?
Reminds me of this cartoon I saw in Punch magazine, back in the 80s. Shows Nero's palace wall, where a lyre is kept in a glass case with the label "In case of fire, break"

Maybe they have a found a way to mate an HSR with a tunnel-borer machine? Next time, a bridge collapses, the train will jump gracefully off the tracks and bury itself, before any running-dogs of social media decides to go reactionary with their phone-cams.
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^^^^

No need to be jealous. If you call the Queen of England Empress again, maybe, just maybe, they will build you a new set of trains. :rotfl:
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