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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_23370 » 17 Sep 2014 23:57

Right time to escalate and strike with Pinaka and Arty. They are hoping India will not escalate when Xi is here and we must prove them wrong. Pakistan is preoccupied and this is ideal time for a small show down.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby parshuram » 18 Sep 2014 00:10

Do Not Know what We will Do But seems like a planned move by PLA to encash Xi Visit

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_23370 » 18 Sep 2014 00:11

Thats why it is important to avoid playing by their rules and show them how costly it can be.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_22733 » 18 Sep 2014 02:00

parshuram wrote:Do Not Know what We will Do But seems like a planned move by PLA to encash Xi Visit


Only one thing bothers me: Its the same DDM and DIE-nasty infested media that we are depending on for this news. What is to say that they are not peddling agenda here?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby girish.r » 18 Sep 2014 02:32

LokeshC wrote:
parshuram wrote:Do Not Know what We will Do But seems like a planned move by PLA to encash Xi Visit


Only one thing bothers me: Its the same DDM and DIE-nasty infested media that we are depending on for this news. What is to say that they are not peddling agenda here?


Exactly my thoughts.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby RoyG » 18 Sep 2014 03:07

[Don't discuss potentially operationally sensitive information here - rohitvats]

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Prem » 18 Sep 2014 03:46

From History

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/chou- ... sits-india

Various shots of Indian demonstrators carrying banners urging Indian Prime Minister Pandit Nehru to take a firm stand towards Chinese violations of the Indian border. LS. as Chou En Lai, Chinese Premier, descends aircraft steps and is presented with bouquet. MS. Chou En Lai standing with Nehru. MS as Nehru shakes hands with Chou En Lai. LS Chou… more

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Raja Bose » 18 Sep 2014 04:11

pushkar.bhat wrote:Wonder if this qualifies as Border Ops.

Pakistan protests over Afghan attack from across border
The attack was successfully repulsed by the Pakistan Military troops inflicting casualties to the terrorists.
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A strong protest has been lodged with Afghanistan over a physical attack launched by terrorists from across the border in the North Waziristan area.
According to the Foreign Office Spokesperson, between 90 to 100 terrorists entered Pakistan territory yesterday from recently established sanctuaries and safe havens across the border in Khost, Afghanistan, opposite North Waziristan.
The attack was successfully repulsed by the Pakistan Military troops inflicting casualties to the terrorists who fled back to Afghanistan leaving behind three dead bodies. Four Pakistani Military soldiers embraced shahadat while repulsing the attack.
While lodging the protest over the terrorist attack, serious concerns were conveyed to the Afghan side on the developing threats from the recently established sanctuaries across the border in Khost and Paktika Provinces.
It was reiterated that at a time when Pakistan authorities were undertaking a monumental effort against terrorists through the military operation Zarb-e-Azb, all possible cooperation was expected from the Afghan side, who must take tangible steps to eliminate these sanctuaries and safe havens to avoid recurrence of such attacks.


What does this have to do with Indian borders? Please dont go off topic in this thread.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby NRao » 18 Sep 2014 05:26

1000 PLA intrude?

Typical of PLA and PA to behave this way.

Civilians make some progress and the army attempt to derail it.



India should act, but keep it quite until the Chinese prez leaves the region.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sivab » 18 Sep 2014 07:59

nitin gokhale @nitingokhale · 3h
A 1000-strong PLA force intruded 4-5 km into Chumur sector last night in what seems a planned move. India sends matching numbers. Tension up


nitin gokhale @nitingokhale · 2h
Indian assessment: the Chinese think India will not take precipitate action in Chumur because President Xi is in town.


nitin gokhale @nitingokhale · 2h
Army is not backing down in Chumur. Last night was tense. Flag meeting was inconclusive. Telephone lines burned between Delhi and Beijing.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sivab » 18 Sep 2014 08:00

GAURAV C SAWANT @gauravcsawant · 46m
Sources tell me India is matching Chinese troops number to number. All drills being followed. Its a stand off. Phones buzzing for resolution

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sivab » 18 Sep 2014 08:42

GAURAV C SAWANT @gauravcsawant · 18m
China carefully studying Ind response; tactically on ground & new leadership in Delhi. + response in & to media. Imp for course correction

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sivab » 18 Sep 2014 08:48

GAURAV C SAWANT @gauravcsawant · 1m
Sources: @PMOIndia raised border issue with Chinese President Xi Jinping yesterday. Matter to be a part of substantive discussions today

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby partha » 18 Sep 2014 08:48

Could this be PLA doing what Pak Army does normally? Having its own agenda regarding border disputes and causing embarrassment to Beijing. I remember reading some reports about strained PLA-Beijing relationship.

Did anyone observe body language of the Chinese President? He seems to lack enthusiasm and looks unexcited. May be that's how his face is.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_23365 » 18 Sep 2014 09:02

I dont know how credebal are MSM reports. But one thing is for sure, IA strategy has U turned. This is first time I am hearing IA stopping construction work by PLA not the other way around. Other thing is instead of being a mute spectator to chinese antics IA is matching chinese no. If we hold our grounds or IA is given free hand to maneuver according to their capabilities chinese will blink sooner than later

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby RoyG » 18 Sep 2014 09:12

We will have to poke Tibet. There is no other choice now. This is the only way these guys will stop this nonsense for good. The problem is we haven't built up our asymmetrical capabilities so our options are limited when going up the escalation latter. They can probably destroy our computer networks if they wanted to.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby ravip » 18 Sep 2014 12:50

Guys was informed by a guy in the know that we have been building our capability since 2008 and there are contingency plans that have been worked out, but was told we are waiting for flexing muscles. Don't know when is that time coming....

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby James B » 18 Sep 2014 14:03

This is from a former Lt.Gen Prakash Katoch

Prakash Katoch @KatochPrakash

Nautanki apart, China knows it can be dealt a bloody nose at any point along LAC – most damaging to Chinese ego !

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby deejay » 18 Sep 2014 15:39

^^^ Folks, me thinks Chinese plan on showing off a big arsenal and scaring off every one to accept their dictat. Same constant badgering of Vietnam, Japan, India etc. We need to call their bluff. If not now than soon.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby SanjayC » 18 Sep 2014 16:44

After Modi's hard talk with Xi in Delhi, Chinese troops pull back in Chumar


Read more at: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/chum ... 83574.html

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sarkar » 18 Sep 2014 16:56

At this time there is lot to loose for a country which starts aggression. We shouldn't be on the wrong side. The wars USA fights are such that, they can go and shoot women and children in a room, but still the world believes the room was full of terrorists. Dealing with China should also be like this and they should be introduced to the world very much like paki terrorist trying to cross borders.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby chetak » 18 Sep 2014 17:04

Why did we not react before the visit by positioning our troops in strength along the border?? Are we dhimmi morons to let this happen every time, knowing full well exactly what is going to happen for sure during such visits??

Sunderji was one Army chief who handled the chinese as they should be handled.

Not only block them but enter deep into their territory from unguarded points and stay a while. Fly the Su 30 up and down the border for a few days before and after our incursions.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby chetak » 18 Sep 2014 17:13

sarkar wrote:At this time there is lot to loose for a country which starts aggression. We shouldn't be on the wrong side. The wars USA fights are such that, they can go and shoot women and children in a room, but still the world believes the room was full of terrorists. Dealing with China should also be like this and they should be introduced to the world very much like paki terrorist trying to cross borders.



The buggers are just posturing to see how serious we are in defending our territory. They are not going to escalate it. They have too much to lose. Pay them back in the same coin and they will learn to respect us.

Do not let any stapled visa Indian guys go to china. For every stapled visa, simply deny 10 visas for them without assigning any reason but make it verbally clear why the denial took place.

Target their business types by choice and they will back off.

Return every stapled visa back by registered AD from the MEA.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby muraliravi » 18 Sep 2014 17:43

This is Chumar.

Maybe we should plan to amass our strength at the 2 red lines and intrude 12.5kms from both sides (total 25 kms) and cutoff a small chunk of tibet to show these guys what IA can do.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 18 Sep 2014 20:10

"Pay them back in the same coin and they will learn to respect us."

Absolutely, that's beyond question. But why should obtaining their respect be important to Indians? If they respect India, fine. But that's not a goal in and of itself. India simply has to defend its territory and its pluralistic democracy from the incursions of these jerks. And prevent that PRC middle kingdom intrusive pollution from reaching any Indian land or any friend of India, like Bhutan.

Who needs the respect of the PLA or Beijing politburo. Bunch of gangsters and jerks. Just defend yourself from their intrusions, that's all.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_23370 » 18 Sep 2014 21:44

Why just defend?? Kill a few and send the message.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby member_28722 » 18 Sep 2014 22:17

PLA won't start a war, they don't have the numbers or the Infra to win a land battle or hold on to any piece. Its not 1962.
Hurting China in trade is the best way to reply to them. We are one of the biggest markets, denying their companies ability to do work here hurts them in the long run.
Giving that opportunity to Japan hurts their ego even more.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Guddu » 21 Sep 2014 07:30

I am hoping Modi will start responding to Chinese truancy....there is no other way to send a message. The fact that he discussed this with eleven jinping, is I guess a start. I think MMS would never have mentioned the border issue to eleven jinping. Jinping was taking a measure of Modi and I think Modi passed.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby pushkar.bhat » 21 Sep 2014 08:53

The Chinese incursion is to see/study the reaction of the indians specially with the new dispensation in place. No better time when you have so many assets in Delhi for the visit by Xi.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby Aditya_V » 21 Sep 2014 10:44

Also, with us delaying Nirbhay, Artillery systems, indegenous trucks, MMRCA, LUH etc. Chinese feel they have 4 year window to build our capability. MMS did not make noise on China since he did not want to be found out like Nehru after UPA-1 and UPA-2 de-fanged India. India lost 1962 and could not win decisively in 1965 because the Armed forces were defanged from 1947-62 and a similair policy in the name of corruption was enacted.

Imagine throwing money on the exotic multicaliber imported rifles without ordering a single 155 mm gun and near cancelling indigenous manufacture of 155 mm shells after delaying by 8 years just because credit will go to GF who was setting up the factory in Nalanda?

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby anchal » 21 Sep 2014 17:19

India needs to lie low, develop capabilities to take on chipandas. As things stand, time is not on our side. A decade of unpreparedness has rendered us vulnerable. One thing chicoms may have inferred from the recent episode is Modi has the will to defend with whatever we have

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby VinodTK » 22 Sep 2014 05:24

Chinese incursion: 15 battalions in Ladakh on high alert
NEW DELHI: Indian Army is keeping its 15 battalions as well as "reserve units" in eastern Ladakh on "high alert" to counter the People's Liberation Army in the ongoing shadow-boxing taking place in the high-altitude region to strengthen claims to disputed areas.

Diplomatic channels are now working overtime to de-escalate the border imbroglio at both Chumar and Demchok, after three flag meetings between local military commanders failed to make any headway, but India is not averse to playing "cartographic hardball" with China if required, say sources.
READ ALSO: Chinese soldiers pitch seven tents in Chumar, stand-off continues

"The situation is fluid but not tense. Chumar has always been held by us. We will not allow the PLA to construct a road or anything else on what we consider our territory. If they withdraw, we will also simultaneously pull back some of our troops," said a source.

But no change in the ground situation in either the troop faceoff at Chumar or the so-called "civilian confrontation" at Demchok was reported till Sunday evening. Around 1,000 PLA troops were still occupying six to seven tactical positions in the Chumar sector, where heights vary from 12,000 to 15,000 feet.

"Some of them often re-position themselves for better logistics. A few return to their administrative bases in the rear for the night, and then come back in the morning. It's a well-planned operation by PLA, which has never set up camps in the area before," said the source.
READ ALSO: Ladakh stand-off worsens, 50 more Chinese soldiers enter Chumar

Over 1,000 Indian troops, too, are maintaining their forward deployment in the Chumar sector, where the "cat-and-mouse game" has now been underway since September 10 after Indian soldiers stopped PLA troops from building a road right up to Chepzi on the unresolved Line of Actual Control (LAC).

The close-quarter jostling for better tactical positions had even led to a young PLA officer being detained by the Indian troops after he had strayed into one of their positions last week. The Chinese lieutenant was later handed over to the PLA.

Though the standoff is currently limited to the southern part of eastern Ladakh, the Army-ITBP combine has stepped up patrols all along the LAC stretching from Daulat Beg Oldi in the north down to Chumar near the Himachal border. Both sides have also deployed helicopters and drones for sustaining their soldiers as well as surveillance to detect build-ups.

An Indian Army convoy passes through the Zoji La pass in Jammu & Kashmir. The pass provides a vital link between Ladakh and Kashmir. (Getty Images file photo)

The Army has enough personnel in the region to take care of such contingencies. There are four battalions each under the 70 Brigade at Kiari and the 114 Brigade at Tangtse, as also five units of the Ladakh Scouts. The 14 Corps at Leh, which looks after the Kargil sector as well as eastern Ladakh, also has the 81 Brigade as "a reserve formation", which can swiftly be deployed towards Kargil or eastern Ladakh when required.

Sources said China seems to be testing the Modi government's resolve both on the land boundaries as well as the Indian Ocean Region with its Maritime Silk Route construct. During the 21-day Depsang faceoff at the DBO sector in April-May last year, just before Chinese Premier Li Keqiang's visit here, India had got conflicting signals from the PLA commanders on the ground and the political leadership in Beijing.

Similar messaging is happening in the ongoing Chumar faceoff, which coincided with President Xi Jinping's visit here. "It's very difficult to believe that local PLA commanders would act like this without the top Chinese leadership's nod. We have asked China to adhere to the 2005 protocol on CBMs on the LAC," said the source.

It had taken intensive diplomatic intervention to finally defuse the DBO faceoff last year after India dismantled "a tin shed" at Chumar and the PLA troops simultaneously withdrew from the Depsang Valley. Similarly, this time the Chinese troops are also asking Indian troops to demolish a recently-built hut at Tible in the Chumar sector, as reported by TOI earlier.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby vaibhav.n » 22 Sep 2014 12:36

VinodTK wrote:The Army has enough personnel in the region to take care of such contingencies. There are four battalions each under the 70 Brigade at Kiari and the 114 Brigade at Tangtse, as also five units of the Ladakh Scouts. The 14 Corps at Leh, which looks after the Kargil sector as well as eastern Ladakh, also has the 81 Brigade as "a reserve formation", which can swiftly be deployed towards Kargil or eastern Ladakh when required.


As usual, evil Yindoos have over strength brigades. :D

In Comparison, The PLA Border Defense Regiment are at best Very Light Infantry, with each Regiment having 3 Battalions and a Regimental HQ. A BDR Battalion further has 3 Coys. By the looks of it very similar setup to the PLA, so should number around the 600 Troop mark. These lack a Support Weapons Coy and additional Arty support.The entire Indo-China border is rumoured to have around 9-10 such Regiments barely 18K-20K troops in all.

Uppercut we wants!! :evil:

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby rohitvats » 22 Sep 2014 13:50

From Orbat.Com:

· India and China Beijing takes India as seriously as it might a hangnail. Possibly less. A bit of history to make the point. After the 1962 defeat, India put 11 large, powerful divisions on the Tibet border. Each had far more firepower, manpower, and mobility than a Chinese division. China had reached a peak of about 15 divisions in Tibet before the 1962 War. These were small light divisions for counterinsurgency, ill-suited for conventional war against a heavily armed adversary. For the war, China brought in crack divisions from as far away as the Taiwan front.

· Given the Indian buildup, which began while the war was underway, you’d think China would continue to station first-class divisions in Tibet. Nah. It withdrew the reinforcements, and as the Tibetan insurgency continued to die down, China began disbanding/withdrawing the light divisions. By 2008 or so, China was down to two brigades in Tibet. India reduced its permanent deployment in the North because there had been little tension with China for decades, aside from the 1986-87 foofarah. It halved its brigades in East Ladakh and shifted one division out of the theatre, without replacement. Another division went on a long deployment to Kashmir for the counterinsurgency. Still, India could deploy six divisions against China within 10 days, and several more within a month. Was China worried? Nah.

· In the 2000s China’s growing economic and military strength led to an increase in border incidents. Some blame increased Indian assertiveness for this, but honestly, all India was doing is patrolling on its side of the 1962 ceasefire line. To blame India is to rewrite history. Chinese incursions became ever more frequent , but all this was done without reinforcing Tibet. The small Tibet garrison, mostly composed of border troops, was thought quite sufficient.

· An alarmed India reversed its slow drawdown of northern forces, immediately raising two divisions, and then two more by 2014. Ladakh was strongly reinforced. More divisions were approved pending availability of funds, which in practice means the next tranche wont start raising until 2017. China’s reaction? A big yawn. China now has three brigades in Tibet, the equivalent of a division against India’s 12 divisions.

· Of course, with the astonishing increase in China’s transport infrastructure in Tibet, and the growing mobility and firepower of Chinese forces, China can bring in 8 divisions or so within two months. Ignore the Indian estimates of 30 divisions in 30 days. The Chinese Army has reduced to the point it is considerably smaller than the Indian; it no longer has 30 combat capable divisions and soon will be down to the equivalent of about 24. The Chinese were so impressed by 1991 they have decided quality rather than quantity is the thing. This is a big mistake, because you need quantity as well as quality when facing India. That, however, is hardly India’s problem. If India were to strike first, it would have an overwhelming advantage against China until the Chinese brought in reinforcements.

· Are the Chinese worried? Nah. This is because – we’ve made this point before – to the Chinese the military is truly an extension of political action. Political action is more important than military action. It could even be argued that to the Chinese, getting involved in a shooting war would mean failure. Their strategy calls for political action, backed up by force, but even then the force is to be very carefully and economically applied in sharp, short actions to restore the political advantage. At no costs do they want to get involved in a prolonged war.

· The Chinese know the Government of India – makes no difference which political party rules – is composed of gutless wonders and will NEVER initiate war. But what about 1986-87, you ask. Well, what about it? India assembled a brigade composed of elite infantry battalions to take back a post held by maybe 100 Chinese troops, immediately backed up by at least two more brigades, behind which were at least two divisions. Basically, a corps against a rifle company. What did India do? It wimped out. China moved in 8 divisions during the winter after India wimped, just in case Delhi got any further bright ideas. When India assured China it would no longer get bright ideas, the Chinese withdrew by the 1987 summer, and the story ended.

· Of course the Chinese are concerned about the Ladakh buildup, enough so that they have tried to get India to agree to a demilitarization of the border. But that, from India’s point, is the entire problem. India had all but agreed to a demilitarization in the 1990s; China’s response was to start aggressively pushing India back. Even the India’s know that with our own road/rail infrastructure in the north woefully behind schedule, to agree to a reduction of forces will be folly.

· So India will not withdraw. But it won’t react to non-stop Chinese provocations either. As someone sardonically put it, when does India react? When the Chinese reach Delhi? Truthfully, India will not react even then. Meanwhile there is actually a whole lot of foreign, political, and intelligence pressure to keep bending backward. Shameful as it is to admit it, Editor reveals no secrets when he says even the majority of the military have no wish to fight China. Of course if China attacks, India will fight, and it will restore the status quo ante. But reclaim India’s lost territory in Ladakh? Punish the Chinese in the East by moving the line of control to the plain beyond which Lhasa lies?

One word:fugedabhatit.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby satya » 22 Sep 2014 18:13

^^^^ Both Ravi's & T S Ninan's weekend article in BS brings out once again lack of will & strategic direction under Political Leadership in Delhi combined with IA's ' never again 62 ' mantra as one & only policy against China . Blindfolded as we are with this ,our forces are left with show of strength /unke 10 hamare 100 as only option .Why not bring 'MNREGA' labor and start a political agitation on other side of LAC demanding settlement for them and make a circus of it . Let's see how Chinese will react then . When we have decided not to fire bullet , its time to bring our 'dharna politics' against Chinese.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby SanjayC » 22 Sep 2014 18:23

India is suffering from a psychological block it acquired in 1962 against China. Once this block gets broken (by a minor battle with China), it will be open season on the Tibet border.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby deejay » 22 Sep 2014 18:24

^^^ This has been our National attitude since independence. As if some English given Boundary Line is the all powerful line of Indian limits. We have the same policy on all fronts.

Our neighbours in the West and East think differently but we are not ready to go further. Our mindset is so Dhimmyfied that we will sack people who call Xi as Eleven and never look at a whole new perspective.

National Political Will for assertiveness is needed or we shall continue with 'unke 10 humare 100'.


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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby vaibhav.n » 22 Sep 2014 23:13

Sorry for the long post!!

FWIW, The MoD's own Think-Tank has listed the following as confirmed Chinese Activities Observed in POK. Here is their own SWOT Analysis.

Over a period of time, the following major activities have been observed in POK:-

1. One Infantry Battalion has been stationed at Khujerab Pass (15,397 ft) on Karakoram highway which is likely to be increased to one Brigade subsequently.
2. 22 Tunnels being constructed as infrastructure development at multiple locations which are likely to be used for dispersed stocking missiles for strategic purpose.
3. There are reports about the presence of 11,000 Chinese construction workers and People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Combat Engineers Groups in PoK but no concrete moves are being undertaken to counter this rising threat.
4. Temp shelters in PoK are being swiftly converted into permanent structures.
5. Karakoram highway Upgradation project costing $ 350 bn has been undertaken by China. The Trans-Karakoram highway, vital for commercial and strategic purposes connects the Northern Areas of Pakistan to Xinjiang Province in China. China’s Gej-Houba Group is widening the road Jalot-Skardu and will be completed by 2014.
6. An 800 Km long railway link has been constructed from Havellian to Khunjerab Pass. 767 development projects are being funded to Pakistan by China.
7. Construction of rail road network from China to Gwadar Port has reduced travel time to 48h instead of 16-25 days as at present.
8. China Mobile, the state owned cellular company of China has setup cell networks in Gilgit and Baltistan.
9. Laying of 820 km OFC (Optical Fibre Cable) along the Karakoram highway, from Rawalpindi to Khunjerab Pass. These measures are possibly being undertaken to support PLA troops stationed in Gilgit-Baltistan and POK.


Possible Collusive Aims Against The Sector

The possible collusive aims against India could be enumerated as under :-

1. Pakistan Claim on Siachen. Pakistan has still not been able to reconcile itself to the fact that it was preempted by India in 1984 when India physically occupied the glaciated heights. By collusivity with China, Pakistan hopes to realign the Line of Control along NJ 9842 and Karakoram Pass.

2. Pakistan to Recapture Area upto 1971 Operations. 1971 war besides creating an independent nation in the form of Bangladesh and surrender of 96000 Pakistan troops, also resulted in the loss of Turtuk heights in Siachen Brigade Sector. Pakistan hopes to regain the same with the help of China.

3. China to Realign Boundary Along East Karakoram and Ladakh Range. The main conflict in the sector is the frontier running from the Karakoram Pass in the extreme west to the Changchenmo valley in the south. It is a frontier between Ladakh on our side and Xinjiang and Tibet on the Chinese side. The Aksai Chin as a region is of vital strategic importance to India. For India, the boundary runs from the Karakoram Pass to the Changchenmo valley along the Kun Lun mountain range, while for China the boundary line runs along the Karakoram Mountains, southwest of the Kun Lun mountains. From the Changchenmo valley to the Spiti region, there have been a number of minor disputes such as those involving Chushul and Demchok. The area under dispute is over 1610 kms.

The collusive threat must be approached realistically. Responding in anticipation where little threat exists would lead to its materialization in a time frame that may find India under prepared. The chances of twin face-off could manifest in terms of scenarios, it could be either Pakistan led or China led.

Alternatively, it could be with either state taking advantage of an adverse situation for India brought on by the other state with a grand strategic design of collusivity.

Recommendations
The following suggestions are recommended to enhance the effectiveness of own counter measures against an collusive offensive :-

1. Ab-Initio deployment of mechanised forces in the Leh/Ladakh sector as counter veiling forces.
2. Deployment of additional Fire Units and force multipliers like Multi Barrel Rocket Launchers and Missiles in the sector.
3. Additional Air Defence Deployment in the region.
4. Surveillance, Intelligence Warfare, Electronic Warfare & Communication capabilities to be increase in the sector. A new Surveillance And Target Acquisition Regiment may be positioned in Leh & Ladakh region.
5. Infrastructure Development. Strengthen Project Himank, especially for upgradation of roads and bridges in the sector to facilitate movement of Mechanised forces.
6. Dedicated helicopter lift for upto 2 x infantry companies and special forces.
7. Raising of additional Ladakh Scouts battalions on the lines of son of the soil concept in Area of Responsibility.
8. Ab-Initio deployment of tactical SSMs & MBRLs.
9. Forward placing of replacement bridges.

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Re: India Border Watch: Security and Operations

Postby sivab » 22 Sep 2014 23:23

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Amid a tense but localized troop standoff in Ladakh, Indian Army chief scraps Bhutan trip while Xi asks PLA to be ready for a "regional war"


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