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Paul wrote:^Even if it does, we will more than match it...like we are doing in Nepal where the Indian babucracy hit the ball out of the park. Relax!!!
Oh did I miss some fireworks? Pliss give knowledge to this nanha Mujahid.
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reg that china losing in football thing -

do chinese play any team sport good, and by team i mean more numbers than the doubles in badminton :lol:
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kittoo wrote:
Paul wrote:^Even if it does, we will more than match it...like we are doing in Nepal where the Indian babucracy hit the ball out of the park. Relax!!!
Oh did I miss some fireworks? Pliss give knowledge to this nanha Mujahid.
Not really fireworks but Eleven Ping Pong's previously announced trip was cancelled in September and later was announced that it was not cancelled but postponed (indefinitely only).
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http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 8nHQJ.html

Protectionism against Chinese companies and boycotting goods from the East Asian country on the pretext of political issues will not help bridge the yawning Sino-India trade deficit, instead only damage bilateral ties, state media said on Friday.

Besides allowing free flow of Chinese goods into its huge market, India should focus on expanding and improving industrial infrastructure to address the issue of imbalance in trade, the nationalistic tabloid Global Times said in two separate write-ups on bilateral economic ties between the two countries.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Xi Jinping cannot be expected to talk in detail about the trade deficit when they meet in Goa on the sidelines of the BRICS summit this weekend. But the issue is likely to be flagged — as it has been repeatedly done during past meetings — during the one-on-one meeting.

Quoting Chinese government figures, one GT article said: “Data from China’s General Administration of Customs showed Thursday that India in September exported goods worth $922 million to China, while importing goods worth $5.4 billion from China.”

It added: “The major imports from China include electronic components, telecom instruments, chemicals and pharmaceutical products, while India’s major exports to China include ore, plastics and cotton.”

According to mid-year statistics from India, bilateral trade was $70.73 billion in 2015-16, down from $72.34 billion in the previous fiscal.
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Has it hit them or they are scared that if boycotted, will hurt them:

http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=8708
Boycotting our goods will damage ties, China’s state media warns India
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Karthik S wrote:Has it hit them or they are scared that if boycotted, will hurt them:

http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=8708
Boycotting our goods will damage ties, China’s state media warns India
Like the ties are tallel than the mountains and need to be protected :rotfl:
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Karthik S wrote:Has it hit them or they are scared that if boycotted, will hurt them:

http://www.defencenews.in/article.aspx?id=8708
Boycotting our goods will damage ties, China’s state media warns India
Stupid statement from China. If stapled visas and support to Masood Azhar is the state of current ties - it would be a good idea to damage ties.
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This has been going on in Wall Street for years. Critically important but often overlooked. This is how the West prospers from even rivals. This is what keeps goras on top. But it also means China has a lots of friends in the highest echelons of western business. These connections have geopolitical impact and blunts the hawks on the US military.

Chinese wants to build infrastructure around the world? Great. It is low margin, most likely loss making work. Once you are done, we'll have access to new markets. This has happened in Africa, I know I was at a conference for WS firms on how to take advantage of this brand new network of infrastracture (roads, rail, power, telecom) that didn't exist 5 years before. Now with OBOR this is happening across Eurasia in an even greater scale.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ge-rides-th ... 1476449185
GE Rides the Coattails of China’s Global Dream

As Beijing pushes to open more markets to Chinese companies, General Electric and other U.S. industrial giants are following them in
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Chinese chicanery on full display.It is nothing but a patron of terror and the sooner the GOI kicks the butt of XI Gins,diplomatically,the better.
India should immediately export to Vietnam the best of our indigenous weaponry,missiles,including BMos.As China plans min-N plants in the disputed islands in the Indo-China Sea, so should we set up N=plants in Vietnam so that they can get the bomb,just as China gifted Pak its bomb and missiles.

India should also send a high-level dipl. /trade delegation to Taiwan and end China's huge trade surplus with India.We should be prepared to open a de-facto consulate in Taiwan which will be a "damocles sword" over China's head,the threat of India recognising Taiwan and sending China into diplomatic coventry.

Since we have to defend ourselves against China alone,our N-weapons inventory and China specific ICBMs should be hugely increased so that we can deal with both China and Pak in the event of an N-conflict.Possessing a huge N-arsenal will be the best deterrent.At the moment China is ramping up Paki N-capabilities to neutralise India.

Since the sh*worms of Zhongnanhai have come out in the open,hostility towards India by supporting Paki terror,we should pay China back in the same coin and invite the Uighars to India just as we're inviting the Baluchis.Let's be brutally frank.The war with Pak and China has already started on the diplomatic and economic front.Let the "Boycott China" campaign seize the nation!

http://defencenews.in/article/China-def ... 80%99-8776
China defends ‘All-Weather’ ally Pak after Modi calls it ‘Mother Ship of Terror’
Monday, October 17, 2016
By: Hindustan Times

A day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi called Pakistan a “mother ship of terrorism” , China strongly defended its “all-weather ally” on Monday, saying it is against linking any country or religion with terror and asked the world to acknowledge Pakistan’s “great sacrifices”.

In a sharp reaction to a question about Modi’s characterisation of Pakistan at the BRICS Summit in Goa, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said China is opposed to linking any country to terrorism.

Answering a question on Modi’s criticism of Islamabad in aiding and abetting terror groups opposed to India, she said “on counter-terrorism, China’s position is consistent”. “It is the same way we oppose linking terrorism with any specific country or religion,” she said.

“We oppose terrorism in all forms and we believe that international concerted efforts are needed to ensure stability and security of all countries,” she said.

“We oppose linking terrorism with any specific ethnicity or religion. This is our long-standing position. China and Pakistan are all-weather friends.”

Noting that India and Pakistan are “all victims of terrorism”, she said Islamabad has made “great sacrifice to combat terrorism and this needs to be recognised by the international community”.

“As per the problem between India and Pakistan, both the two countries are close neighbours of China. We truly hope that they can resolve these differences in a peaceful way through dialogue and consultation, so that India and Pakistan relations can develop. This serves the interest of the two countries and the region,” she said.
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Why do you think exports to Vietnam will bother China that much? Vietnam already imports a lot of advanced weaponry from Russia, and it's not exactly hurting Sino-Russian ties. Basically any weapon Vietnam would want from India has to have Russian approval anyway, so if China really cared it would have to work with Russia.
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DavidD wrote:Why do you think exports to Vietnam will bother China that much? Vietnam already imports a lot of advanced weaponry from Russia, and it's not exactly hurting Sino-Russian ties. Basically any weapon Vietnam would want from India has to have Russian approval anyway, so if China really cared it would have to work with Russia.
But triumphant news reports in India that Vietnam is being bolstered against China by India will have the salutary effect on Indian confidence and will soon invite Chinese irritation because Indian meddling in Vietnam will definitely be construed as loss of Chinese face, influence and prestige in their own backyard.

Very few people have your analytical ability and most will see Indian actions as provocative. If China really does start "working with Russia" to stop Indian exports to Vietnam, it will be a clear signal to India that China is concerned about it in some way - be it to reduce its propaganda value or the threat from Vietnam. If China does not react at all because it sees no threat from Indian actions - it means that India can push the envelope further.

Nothing happens without purpose..
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Chinese Communist Party declares Xi ‘core’ leader: Xinhua - PTI
The ruling Communist Party of China (CPC) on Thursday declared President Xi Jinping as the “core” of its leadership conferring on him a status similar to that of party founder ‘Chairman’ Mao Zedong but decided to carry on with the collective leadership system.

A key meeting of the CPC has called on all its members to “closely unite around the CPC Central Committee with Comrade Xi Jinping as the core,” state run Xinhua news agency reported.

Mr. Xi (63) also heads the party as general secretary of the CPC, and the military besides the presidency.

The announcement was made at the end of the four-day closed-door plenary meeting of the party comprising over 370 senior officials of the party.

Collective leadership stays

But contrary to the speculation that the party may dispense with the over three-decade rule stipulating collective leadership, the plenum stressed the importance of adherence to the collective leadership system of CPC.

“They discussed the matter at the sixth plenary session of the 18th CPC Central Committee, calling for a combination of collective leadership with individual responsibility,” the report said.

The collective leadership was introduced in 1981 to ensure that no individual dominated the party leadership.

Speculation was rife earlier that it may be amended.

As an important part of the CPC’s fundamental organisation principle of democratic centralism, the collective leadership system “must always be followed and should not be violated by any organisation or individual under any circumstance or for any reason,” a communique said. Party committees at various levels must adhere to the system, it said.

Enforce organisational decisions

The communique called on leading officials to enhance their understanding of the overall situation and relevant responsibilities, and to resolutely enforce decisions made by party organisations.

The plenum also approved two documents on the discipline of the party including the norms of political life within the party under the new situation and a regulation on intra-party supervision, Xinhua quoted a communique as saying.

The meeting also said the CPC would resolutely address election malpractice, putting an end to the buying and selling of official posts or vote-rigging.

No special treatment

Requesting an official post, honour or special treatment is not allowed under any circumstances, it has said.

The communique also underscored that the practice of bargaining with party organisations to secure a promotion or disobeying any decisions made by party organisations is also forbidden.

The selection and appointment of officials should not be contaminated by outside interference or misconduct, it said.

Elaborating on the leadership structure of the party, the CPC communique said members should unite under the party leadership with Mr. Xi at “core.”

7-member Standing Committee

Mr. Xi currently heads a seven-member Standing Committee of the party which virtually rules China.

The seven members looking after various aspects of governance included Premier Li Kiang.


The Standing Committee embodies collective leadership in CPC parlance.

Since taking over as the leader of the party in November 2012 and as President and chief of the military in 2013, Mr. Xi has been regarded as the most powerful leader after Mao wielding enormous powers, thus reducing the importance of the Standing Committee.

‘Xi akin to Mao’ comment

Ahead of the sixth plenary, official media said the party needed a strong leader like Mao, and Mr. Xi fitted the bill speculating that the collective leadership may be dispensed away with.

The plenum, which concluded its four-day meeting here on Thursday said members, should resolutely safeguard the authority of the CPC and its central, unified leadership while pushing forward the comprehensive and strict governance of the party.

The communique also urged them to become more aware of the need to uphold political integrity, keep in mind the bigger picture, follow the CPC as the core of the Chinese leadership and act consistently with CPC Central Committee policy.

For a clean political mileau

“Together we must build a clean and righteous political environment, and ensure that the party unites and leads the people to continuously open up new prospects for socialism with Chinese characteristics,” it said.

It also endorsed the expulsion of former party chief of Liaoning Province and senior national legislator Wang Min and former Beijing deputy party chief Lyu Xiwen.

It also confirmed the expulsion of former senior military officials Fan Changmi and Niu Zhizhong.

They were expelled as as part of massive anti-corruption campaign carried out by Mr. Xi after he took over as CPC head.

Over 1.01 million officials of the 88.75 million-strong CPC were punished in the anti-graft campaign amid allegations that Mr. Xi has also used it to consolidate his hold on the party.
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The process of one person consolidating absolute power over all three branches of the Chinese government: CPC Politburo Standing Committee, Central Military Commission, and Presidency of the State Council seems to have begun under Hu Jintao (the first leader in many years to hold General Secretary, Chairman of CMC and the Presidency at once).

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/ ... ina1_2.jpg

Xi Jinping didn't create the autocratic position of occupying all three posts at once, but rather inherited it. Now he is consolidating it by weakening the individual organs of collective leadership.
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Can the centre hold in Xi Jinping’s China? - The Hindu
Chinese Communist Party chief Xi Jinping’s ascension to the highest title in the party hierarchy formalises his position as its pre-eminent figure, analysts said, making him the country’s most powerful leader in a generation and inviting comparisons with Mao Zedong.

The ruling party’s declaration that Mr. Xi is the “core” of its leadership saw some observers argue it heralded the beginnings of a personality cult, smacking of the adulation that once surrounded Communist China’s founding father, who ruled for three decades.

Others saw it as a crucial step to enforce genuine reform in the world’s most populous country and second-largest economy, including liberalising markets and strengthening the legal system.

Mr. Xi’s anointment, by the ruling party’s top echelons after a key meeting in Beijing known as the Sixth Plenum, was met with fanfare by state media. A picture of the leader in a sombre Western suit dominated the front pages of the country’s major papers on Friday, and China’s national broadcaster showed footage of Mr. Xi’s lectures during the meeting on a near-continuous loop.

Many loyalists see Mr. Xi as a transformative figure, and Hu Xingdou, an expert on China’s governance at the Beijing Institute of Technology, said his new status could see him become “China’s [George] Washington” and lead the country “out of the shadow of chaos”.

The government had failed to deliver on its previous commitments in such areas as improving rule of law and opening markets, he said.

The move comes ahead of a party congress next year when Mr. Xi will have an opportunity to put his own allies into the top Politburo Standing Committee.

‘Not monolithic’

Jean-Pierre Cabestan of Hong Kong Baptist University said calls for unity before and at the plenum showed that the party was “far from being monolithic and that Mr. Xi is facing difficulties and even headwinds as far as his policy agenda is concerned”.

”The battle for the next party congress has started but it is far from being over,” he said. Not all are convinced Mr. Xi will use his new-found authority for good. He is a “power hungry politician”, said Willy Lam, professor of politics at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.
— AFP
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This is may be thought peripheral, but a key aspect of national characteristics is self-assessment.

Could Chinese belligerence in fact be a matter of self image?

http://isitnormal.com/story/i-feel-disg ... men-69723/

It is absolutely sad that the Chinese seem to have internalised that they are ugly. Compared to what?

I feel awful for saying this and I know there will be many angry replies to this statment. But I am honestly writing this out to seek your advice and honest thoughts. Since childhood, I've always felt that Asians are an extremely ugly race. I, myself, am Chinese, and I see myself as ugly too. My parents are always telling me that I should be dating Chinese men, but they are so unattractive to me. I tried to run down what I didn't like about them - their skinny hairless bodies (very effeminate looking), slanty shifty eyes, flat big button noses, a lot of them carry man purses, and they usually come with bad teeth or bad breath (due to either poor hygiene or something in the smell of their food). I feel the same way with Asian women too, but Asian men just look more terrible to me. This has always bothered me that I could be racist to my own culture and nationality, and that's the last thing I want to be. Is it normal to feel extremely disgusted and unattracted to all Asians, especially the Chinese? Is it normal to feel repulsed by how a whole race looks? I can't change the entire nation of China to look differnt, or to force them to learn to pick up better hygiene, so what I can do to stop feeling disgusted and disturbed everytime I see a Chinese or Asian man or woman?

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Chinese girl..... Don't feel bad about yourself. I am adopted and I am Chinese also. I have problems trying to fit in sometimes with the American girls and boys in my school because everytime I look in the mirror, I immediately notice my Chinese face. I feel normal usually......EXCEPT when I look in the mirror! My adoptive parents adopted me from an orphanage in China, but I still wonder what my Chinese parents look like and I wonder if they ever think about me. My adoptive parents tried to adopt a child from America, Russia, Australia and everywhere else they could think of so that their child would look more like themselves. They really wanted a white child, but the demand for white kids is so high, you must get on a waiting list for a few years and white kids are hard to get plus the orphanages charge $7,000 for each child whereas China gives baby girls away FREE and there is no waiting list because no one seems to want Chinese girls.. So don't feel too bad about yourself because I know exactly how it feels to be a Chinese girl in America. I am going to have problems when I go to my prom because no white boys are interested in me. I have plenty of white boys as friends, but none of them really want to be my date.







Having just spent some time in a North American city with a very large Chinese population, certainly the Chinese in stature or physiognomy are not the contemporary ideal of beauty. In fact the local Punjabis and Iranis look like gods compared to most of them or the Caucasian fat slobs. And the white women certainly seem to be in competition with Africans over who can grow a bigger butt.

This business of Chinese having neurotic personalities and bad breath...where does this even come from? Of course a lot can be explained by the economic and agrarian background, but why should one need to apologise for not having had the opportunities?


Hopefully the Chinese propagandists on this forum can shed some perspective on these observations.
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Chinese buying out Hollywood:
-Legendary Entertainment
-Dick Clark Productions
-AMC Theatres
-Carmike Cinemas
etc.

...giving these China-based magnates control over production, investment and distribution.
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Agnimitra wrote:Chinese buying out Hollywood:
-Legendary Entertainment
-Dick Clark Productions
-AMC Theatres
-Carmike Cinemas
etc.

...giving these China-based magnates control over production, investment and distribution.
Similar paranoa was whipped up when the Japanese acquired a few hollywood assets in the early 90s. These are merely capital infusements to struggling old school businesses, that is being tommed as takeovers.

The movie industry in US did a pivot since 2008 timeframe and adopted the software industry model of "Big firms acquire smaller players with exciting content or skill, rather than develop everything in house" as well as hastening the process of premium cable channels doing lavish productions (eg: HBO, Showtime etc) that Hollywood once did. Certain longer format of story telling was de-risked with this offloading into premium channels. So the old studios and theatre chains need infusions once a while to keep floating

When a chinese firm is allowed to take over a netflix or a Pixar decisively (as in controlling stakes with day to day executive inputs), we will see.
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I tend to agree. Dick Clark and Legendary Entertainment are largely has-beens... their stature is nowhere near the WB, Disney, 20th Century Fox, Viacom,Paramount or Dreamworks (SKG) monoliths that dominate the US entertainment industry landscape today (and have for a while).

AMC and Carmike are cinema theatres, a dying breed in general (attendance has been steadily declining over the past 10-15 years with more and more options like DVD rentals, streaming online, smart TV etc. available to consumers). The only movies that still draw people to large-screen theatres are action-packed blockbusters with lots of visual effects (Mission Impossible, Transformers etc.) and their audience is almost uniformly teenagers. In fact, it's been known for some time that the only means for movie theatres in the US to turn a profit is by maximizing sales of popcorn, candy, soda and so on at concession stands... movie ticket sales alone almost invariably account for a loss, because of the cost of maintenance, air conditioning, etc. So in fact, the entire mainstream movie industry in the US has its plots, casting, direction, editing etc. dictated by the tastes of 13-21 year old men (who are most likely to come to movie theatres on dates, and bribe their paramours with popcorn or soda for the chance to cop a feel... seriously!)

All said and done, I wouldn't fear that the takeover of AMC/Carmike by the Chinese is going to give Beijing a dangerous avenue of influence to saturate the American cultural narrative with psyops.
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http://www.financialexpress.com/india-n ... bs/437965/


A small-time exporter from Mumbai wanted to ship out engineering goods to China. He was told that a Chinese team was required to visit his factory and he would have to pay for it. He agreed, and spent some R10 lakh on the team’s visit. After six months he was told that another team would land up at his factory again before getting to the next stage of obtaining the permit. Assuming that this was going to be a long, arduous and expensive process, he decided to dump the idea and looked for another destination.
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Rudradev wrote: All said and done, I wouldn't fear that the takeover of AMC/Carmike by the Chinese is going to give Beijing a dangerous avenue of influence to saturate the American cultural narrative with psyops.
And even that is an understatement. The 34 or so US films allowed every year in dominate the chini market to the tune of 50% or more. Hollywood and American cultural dominance in China is such that the baser cultural aspects of US culture is hotly debated -- white male leads in Chinese films (Matt Damon saving Chinamen from dragons lol) and no black or other peoples of colors in films targeted for chins market -- in fact, one hollywood exec used China as a reason why whites need to retain lead roles.
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China's first female pilot of J-10 fighter jet dies in flying accident - Straits Times
China's first female pilot of a J-10 fighter jet died in a flying accident on Saturday (Nov 12) after her plane plunged to the ground and she was unable to eject in time.

The incident occurred in Hebei province, a day after China's air force day, reported the South China Morning Post.

Chinese media reports said Ms Yu, 30, was flying with a male pilot, who was able to eject from the plane but was injured.

Ms Yu, born in Chengdu, was a member of the August 1st aerobatics team. The team comes under the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) air force. She was one of a few female pilots who could fly domestically made fighter jets.

Ms Yu applied to become a pilot in the air force in 2005. Four years later, she became one of China's first 16 female fighter jet pilots, according to Xinhua News Agency.

The aerobatics team had earlier this month participated in Airshow China in Zhuhai, Guangdong province.
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Malacca harbour plan raises questions about China's strategic aims
There is the strategic element of the Malacca Strait. It always starts with an economic presence, which can develop into a naval one, because China will be obliged to ensure the safe passage of its commercial ships," said Dr Johan Saravanamuttu of the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, who studies the Malaysia-China relationship.

The Melaka Gateway joint venture is part of a wider port alliance between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing to increase bilateral trade and boost shipping and logistics along China's much-vaunted Maritime Silk Road.

Chinese firm Guangxi Beibu International Port Group already owns 40 per cent of Kuantan port, which faces the disputed waters of the South China Sea, and 49 per cent of the Kuantan Industrial Park in Pahang, the home state of Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak.

The Malaysian authorities are talking up the game-changing Melaka Gateway deal between little-known KAJ Developments and energy giant PowerChina International, which will form a joint venture and spend RM30 billion to reclaim three islands off Malacca's coast. The entire Gateway development will be completed in 2025 but the deep-sea port is expected to be ready by 2019. The Malaysian government hopes to attract the bulk of 100,000 vessels, most of them Chinese, that ply the Malacca Strait annually.
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CNN has a different story on the deceased J-10 pilot.

It states that after ejection, she hit the wing of another Aircraft. Her co-pilot managed to eject safely. Sounds bad.

RIP
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China Discovers the Price of Global Power: Soldiers Returning in Caskets
“The effect within China is not something we’ve seen before,” said Wang Hongyi, a former Chinese diplomat and peacekeeper at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. The Juba casualties “had major repercussions—in government, in the military and in society.”

It as wake up call to Chinese citizens aka Chinese mini emperors (who has 2 parents, 4 grandparents, may be 1 wife and 1 kid) and we all know how Chinese state bulldoze hapless farmers, workers and poor. If they KIA, all dependents will become destitutes.
His mother, Yang Bin, asked before he deployed if the work would be dangerous. “China is so powerful, who can bully us Chinese people?” her son replied, she recalled as she sat on a threadbare sofa in her rundown concrete home. “So our minds were set at ease.”
Inside, soldiers frantically sent messages to friends and family. “Sister, we’re being hit, there are bombs coming!” said one received by a Chinese civilian in Juba. Witnesses described a projectile—identified by U.N. investigators as a rocket-propelled grenade—hitting the vehicle and exploding inside.
Cpl. Li’s family said they didn’t know he was dead until July 11 news reports named him. Even then, they weren’t sure—another soldier in his brigade shared the name. Cpl. Li’s mother called brigade headquarters; it couldn’t tell her, she said.

Then she saw her son’s birth date and photograph online, she and other family members said, and only after that did the military notify the family./quote]
This is really bad.
There is also his diary. An entry reads: “If one day I’m gone, don’t miss me. I chose this. I have no regrets.”
What an spirit that solider has. Wish Chinese Govt will look after his mother and his grand parents.
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http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/ ... ut-myanmar

Stray bombs fall on Chinese villages as fighting breaks out in Myanmar border towns

Two citizens reported killed in Myanmar as Chinese authorities deploy more police on the border
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A good read for China watchers
Who is Chinese?

Ethnicity is central to China’s national identity. It is the Han, 1.2bn of them in mainland China alone, that most people refer to as “Chinese”, rather than the country’s minorities, numbering 110m people. Ethnicity and nationality have become almost interchangeable for China’s Han, says James Leibold of La Trobe University in Melbourne, Australia. That conflation is of fundamental importance. It defines the relations between the Han and other ethnic groups. By narrowing its legal labour market almost entirely to people of Han descent, ethnicity is shaping the country’s economy and development. And it strains foreign relations, too. Even ethnic Han whose families left for other countries generations ago are often regarded as part of a coherent national group, both by China’s government and people.
How the concept of Han nation is similar to that of Islamic nationality; just replace ethno-cultural (Han) identity with religion (Islam).

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China Cancels Planned Meetings, Delegation Visits From Mongolia
Dalai Lama's visit to Mongolia, which is China's northern neighbour has riled Beijing as it reportedly put off several meetings and delegation visits, including a visit of Mongolia's Deputy Prime Minister.

Asked about the postponement of the meeting and visits, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said "the wrong doing by Mongolia on this issue diminished political foundation between the two countries and brought negative impact to bilateral relations".
Paki terrorism is mainly of Sunni variety. If we can play our cards correctly, we can nullify its influence. Since wisdom says "Vajram vajrena bhidyate," GoI should ponder in giving arms/money/other support to Xinjiang Muslims and float the idea of Greater Turkmenistan (which can puncture SCO badly). All these years, China has tried to burn India through Pak (Kashmir), NE militants. If we pay back in same coin, even Karma will help us.
However, the invitation to the Dalai Lama by Mongolia whose resource-centred economy is heavily dependent on China came a surprise as it is reported in negotiations for a USD 4.2 billion loan from Beijing to help pull it out of a deep recession.
Here Japan and to some extent Russia should open up their purses. If Mongolia gets back their land from China and forms Greater Mongolia, it can export rare earth metals to the whole world.
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CHINA WAKES UP to Pakis within borders

Xinjiang residents (millions!) asked to surrender passports; seek local permission to travel.
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Gus wrote:reg that china losing in football thing -

do chinese play any team sport good, and by team i mean more numbers than the doubles in badminton :lol:
For men, they're OK in basketball, at least when compared to fellow Asians. It's much better for women. The women's volleyball team just won gold in the Olympics, the soccer team has been OK, made it to the World Cup finals once.
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Compared to the achievement in individual sports , the team sports seem very insignificant
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China asks Muslims to oppose religious extremism, reject foreign influence

BEIJING: China has asked its Muslim population to "resolutely oppose religious extremism" and adhere to the concept of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" while practicing their religion.

The statement came from Wang Zuo'an, chief of the state administration for religious affairs, at the 10th National Congress of Chinese Muslims. Wang indicated that the government was worried about foreign influence over Muslims in China at a time when major acts of terrorism were being carried out by terrorists in different parts of the world.

Wang also expressed concern about new mosques being in Muslim populated areas were copying designs from shrines in foreign countries instead of relying on Chinese traditions in mosque building. New mosques should demonstrate Chinese characteristics and national features, he said.

China's Communist officials have often said that Muslim fundamentalism, which has overseas influence, is responsible for the growth of terrorism in Xinjiang, which borders Pakistan.

The government would disallow any attempt by Muslim religious groups to interfere in the process of governance, Wang said. Any "religious interference" in the fields of politics, justice and education is "intolerable", the official media said on Sunday quoting from Wang's speech.

China has been apprehensive about the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in Pakistan, which borders the western Chinese region of Xinjiang that has a vast Muslim population. Communist leaders have earlier indicated that terror camps in Pakistan have supplied arms and other forms of support to separatists in Xinjiang who occasionally indulge in grave violence.

Wang's statement came two days after a government order asking people with passports in Xinjiang to hand over the documents to local police stations for "examination and management".

"Anyone who needs the passport must apply to the police station," the Beijing based Global Times quoted an anonymous police officer in Aksu prefecture of Xinjiang.

The government has also been worried that some Muslims from the province would join the jihadists from Islamic State in Syria and other places, informed sources said.

In his speech, Wang also asked the Islamic Association of China (IAC) should encourge the Islamic clergy to foster the concept of socialism with Chinese characteristics and actively carry out friendly exchange with foreign countries, Wang
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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/11/c ... 29535.html
China: Xinjiang residents told to turn in passports
Order targets region with 10 million-strong Muslim Uighur minority, who frequently complain of religious discrimination.
All residents in China's largely Muslim region of Xinjiang must hand in their passports to local police stations for "examination and management", according to Global Times, a state-funded newspaper .
"Anyone who needs the passport must apply to the police station," an anonymous police officer in Aksu prefecture told the paper on Thursday, adding that the policy had been implemented throughout Xinjiang.
The Global Times article followed numerous reports of tightened passport controls in cities across the region.
Opinion: Is China changing its policy towards Uighur Muslims?
While the order covers everyone living in the area, many members of Xinjiang's more than 10 million-strong Muslim Uighur minority complain of discrimination - including denials of passport applications - as well as controls on their culture and religion.
In mid-October, the public security bureau of Shihezi city posted a directive on a verified social media account asking residents to hand in their passports to police.
The order stated: "Those who refuse to hand them in will bear the responsibility themselves should there be consequences such as being forbidden to go abroad."
The post was later deleted.
Photos of other notices posted on social media showed police stations in various counties and in the regional capital Urumqi requesting citizens hand in passports or stating that new documents would no longer be issued.
'Xinjiang regressing'
Angry questions about the new restrictions abounded on Chinese social media.
"I didn't spend time and money getting a passport to become the focus of the government's safeguarding or to ask for their instructions every time I go out on holiday," said one incensed user from the border district of Tacheng, on the Twitter-like Sina Weibo platform.
"If citizens cannot enjoy even basic rights, how can we live? Would the government please give me a sensible reason for this?"
Inside Story: Uighurs in the firing line in China?
A second said: "Xinjiang is becoming stranger and stranger, regressing as time goes on."
In June, local state-run media reported that the mostly Kazakh residents of a Xinjiang border district had to give police DNA samples, fingerprints, voiceprints and a "three-dimensional image" in order to apply for certain travel documents, including passports.
A Xinjiang official told the Global Times that the new tightening of policy was intended to maintain social order in the region.
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China to crack down on 'hyping' of halal products to contain 'pan-Islamism'

NEW DELHI: Communist China continues its anti-Muslim campaign and this time its target is halal food, which the administration believes "spreads pan-Islamist tendencies in the market", the country's state-run media reported.

Halal food is food prepared according to Islamic law, as defined in the Koran. Islam lays down how meat that is to be consumed is slaughtered and that's called 'halal' meat. China has a Muslim population of more than 23 million, mostly living in the country's north and northwest.

And China will "seriously address the problem of hyping up, twisting and expanding the halal food concept," a senior religious affairs official said on Saturday. This, "amid worries that religion is intruding more into secular life in the country", wrote Global Times.

Chinese Muslims should oppose religious extremism, said Wang Zuoan, director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, on Saturday, according to state news agency Xinhua. He added that the development of Islam in China "should stick to socialism with Chinese characteristics."

This latest move against the "hyping" of halal, comes on top of an "anti-terrorism regulation" imposed in the Muslim-majority Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in China in August. According to the regulation, those who have "twisted the concept of halal," which usually only applies to food, "and have expanded the concept to all aspects of social life," will be fined up to 10,000 yuan ($1,446) or detained for five to 15 days.

"By elaborately expanding the concept of 'halal," some foreign forces are selling their malicious ideas of pan-Islamism and desinicization in a bid to sabotage China's national security, social stability and unity among ethnic groups", said Xiong Kunxin, professor of ethnic studies at Beijing's Minzu University of China, to Global Times.

Wang, the director of the State Administration for Religious Affairs, said that while Muslims' beliefs and customs should be respected, religious interference in the fields of politics, justice and education is "intolerable". Profesor Xiong said that any violations that affect "normal social order, be they committed by either religious or non-religious individuals, should be sanctioned by law. "

In April, another Communist Party of China official also railed against halal products,

"The government must be vigilant to the pan-Islamist tendencies in the market, like halal water, halal toilet paper, halal toothpaste and halal cosmetics," Li Jianhua, was quoted as saying by during a religious work meeting.

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DavidD wrote:the soccer team has been OK, made it to the World Cup finals once.
I thought they qualified just once (2002) to play in World Cup but did not even come close to finals?

Wiki says China finished 31st out of 32 countries that qualified and lost 3 out of 3 games it played. This despite football being quite popular in China, unlike India where cricket gets that honors) was a surprise to me. Maybe China is planning to develop its own premium football leagues with foreign players et al playing, to get integrated into the business part of the deal. But right now, China is way too underwhelming to be called "the soccer team has been OK"
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hnair wrote:
DavidD wrote:the soccer team has been OK, made it to the World Cup finals once.
I thought they qualified just once (2002) to play in World Cup but did not even come close to finals?

Wiki says China finished 31st out of 32 countries that qualified and lost 3 out of 3 games it played. This despite football being quite popular in China, unlike India where cricket gets that honors) was a surprise to me. Maybe China is planning to develop its own premium football leagues with foreign players et al playing, to get integrated into the business part of the deal. But right now, China is way too underwhelming to be called "the soccer team has been OK"
I was talking about the women's team. The men's team is a disgrace.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 834975.cms

Photos, videos of naked women used as collateral for Chinese loans
BEIJING: Hundreds of photos and videos of naked women used as collateral for loans on a Chinese online lending service have leaked onto the web, highlighting regulatory problems in the fast-growing peer-to-peer marketplace. .

A 10-gigabyte file posted on the internet exposed the personal details of more than 160 young women who were asked to provide the explicit material to secure money through online lending platform Jiedaibao. .

Launched by JD Capital in 2015, Jiedaibao allows lenders to operate anonymously but requires borrowers to reveal their real names when making transactions. .
Loan amounts and interest rates can be customised to meet the needs of users — often people who have a hard time accessing loans through more traditional financial institutions, like banks. .

Interest on the "nude loans" reached an astonishing 30 percent a week, according to the Global Times newspaper. .

Lenders told female borrowers that if they failed to repay the loans, their nude photos would be sent to their families and friends, whose information was also required for some transactions, the article said. .

Material in the file put on the web last Wednesday showed some borrowers also promised to repay loans with sexual favours, according to screen captures posted on social media websites. .

In a statement on its official Twitter-like Weibo account, Jiedaibao said it had tracked down the accounts of several borrowers through photos and ID information circulated online and had frozen the suspected lenders' accounts. .

"The 'nude loans' deals were mainly initiated and completed offline, and Jiedaibao only played the role of a money transfer platform in the deals," the statement said. .

The case is not the first time online P2P businesses have been connected to potentially embarrassing photos. .

In November, Alipay, the payment platform of Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba, was criticised after a set of photos showing female users in seductive poses was leaked on social media.
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Chinese army launches massive military drill near Aksai Chin

BEIJING: China's People's Liberation Army+ has launched a major drill in the western region of Xinjiang, which borders several countries including India and Pakistan.

The exercise, which involves a massive force of 10,000 soldiers, is being carried out by PLA's western command. The command is in charge of Aksai Chin, the disputed area between India and China.

It involves "missions relating to camouflage, intelligence, reconnaissance and counter attack", the state run People's Daily Online said.

Though it did not specify the exact location of the exercise, the obvious focus is India because it is the only country in the region which has a border problem with China.

The drill is extensive covering seven hills and taking place at altitudes going up to 4,000 metres.

The drill comes after India's surgical strike in Pakistan and subsequent border problems. The move comes soon after General Qamar Javed Bajwa took over as the new army chief in Pakistan.

The drill is expected to boost the morale of Pakistan's army and put pressure on India, observers said.

China was quick to reassure Pakistan of its continued support after the new army chief took over in Islamabad recently.

"We will continue to work with the Pakistani side to cement the partnership," Chinese foreign ministry Geng Shuang said.

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Philippines Duterte Pisses Off US. Again !

Duterte warning on pact with US baffles aides

[quote]Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte AP Photo/Wong Maye-E.President Duterte’s warning to pull the plug on the country’s military pact with the United States in retaliation for an American agency’s decision to withhold a $434-million aid package to the Philippines has befuddled his aides in Manila.[quote]The President also threatened to raze the headquarters of the United Nations in New York City in response to those accusing him of human rights violations.“You go and file a complaint in the United Nations. I will burn down the United Nations if you want. I will burn it down if I go to America,” he said.Banaag admitted that aides were clueless over the President’s disclosure that China had offered “50 billion” in financial package, saying it was still unclear if the amount was in peso or US dollar.[quote]
Not sure what is his ultimate aim, but he is getting close to China and moving away from US
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Chinese Dogs Saved From "Dog Meat Festival" Land In Montreal :shock:

Saved from dog meat festival, 37 dogs en route to Montreal
Thirty-seven dogs that were destined for a Chinese dog meat festival are on their way to Montreal to start a new life after being found crammed in rusty iron cages so tightly they were gasping for air, unable to move.The dogs were to expected arrive at the Montreal SPCA this evening.The Humane Society International/Canada found the dogs seven months ago at the Yulin dog meat festival in China."These dogs are ambassadors for 30 million dogs slaughtered horrifically in the dog meat trade, primarily in Asia, every single year," Rebecca Aldworth, the executive director of the Humane Society International/Canada, told CBC Montreal.
The Chinese are noted for eating anything that walks, talks, flies in air, swim under water !
The dogs will be evaluated individually, and the SPCA will decide what kind of home would best suit their needs before putting them up for adoption.Devine expects that some of the dogs will be available for adoption as of Jan. 6.
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Dog meat festival in China takes place despite massive online protest
About 10,000 dogs were reportedly slaughtered and eaten this year during China's annual Yulin festival
Not sure if they were boiled, stewed, barbecued or steak tartared :D
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