Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby panduranghari » 18 Feb 2015 18:49

There is something seriously wrong with the people in power in Britain. Or perhaps they still have not really realised that they have no empire anymore. The bank bailouts of 2008 as much as they were wrong, were done nevertheless, as they threatened the British Elite.

In the colonial times, they decimated Indian industry among other things to empower the restive population at home- The same people who could not afford to come to India and lord over the yindoo. That industry which was based in the North of england has been decimated a while back.

Post loss of empire, the Brits did set up some big companies. Impreial Chemical Industry (ICI) was the biggest and equal to size to BASF. BASF still lives. ICI is dead. The reason that ICI died was due to the management wanted to extract value out of the company. The executive salaries rose as much as 4 times but the value added was most certainly not 4 times. Similar trajectory is of Seimens and General Electric Company. Both equal in size. GEC is dead. Seimens is huge.

The British elite are still extracting value so that the executive salaries are high. The propping up of the banks falls into a similar category. No value addition but salaries are exorbitant. Of course FT brags all the time how salaries in UK compare to US. Unlike elsewhere in the world.

A nation in terminal decline. I think its already dead. The rigor mortis is not set in.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Haresh » 19 Feb 2015 13:46

Sloane Rangers are 'heading for extinction'

Young upper-class set in London reduced to '21st century butlers' to foreign oligarchs, says Official Sloane Ranger Handbook author Peter York

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... ction.html

"Property in Knightsbridge, Belgravia, Mayfair and Chelsea has been bought out by “an extraordinary mixture of Russian oligarchs, Middle Easterners, new petrodollar types from Nigeria, Indians, Malaysians and, latterly, Chinese... driving up the prices of London property and driving all but the richest, the most adaptable Sloanes further south and north – and some out of London altogether”.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Haresh » 19 Feb 2015 14:13

STEPHEN GLOVER: Those countless refugees fleeing Libya for Europe should shame our callow politicians who never learn from their mistakes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... takes.html

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and Syria: it’s a list that reflects shamingly on British foreign policy in the Arab world, which has been pursued by callow and generally ignorant politicians (I include successive Foreign Secretaries, with only one or two possible exceptions) who never seem to learn from their mistakes.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Philip » 20 Feb 2015 09:56

True Haresh,read this.

http://rt.com/op-edge/233483-uk-media-demonize-russia/
UK media demonizing Russia as ‘guilty’ of daring to resist US Empire
John Wight is a writer and commentator specializing in geopolitics, UK domestic politics, culture and sport.

Published time: February 18, 2015
Russian President Vladimir Putin (RIA Novosti / Alexey Nikolsky

The demonization of Vladimir Putin and Russia by the British political establishment and media has never been as intense as in the wake of the recent Ukraine peace talks in Minsk.

Rather than preparing British public opinion for peace and a negotiated settlement to a conflict which thus far has cost the lives of over 5,000 people and seen over a million displaced, the opposite has been evident: British public opinion is being prepared for a continuation and intensification of the conflict.

The characterization of the Russian leader has been so off the scale it is hard to imagine anyone being naïve enough to take it seriously. When he’s not being compared to Hitler, an especially offensive caricature for historical reasons, he is being accused of harboring ambitions of forging a ‘Russian Empire’.

That such accusations stem from a nation whose government has played a key part in reducing Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya to a state of chaos in recent years, a consequence of the UK’s attachment to Washington’s brutal and disastrous assault on the Arab and Muslim world, only makes them all the more hypocritical if not downright noxious.

But then this should come as no surprise, as we’ve been here before, haven’t we? Remember when Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez was being similarly demonized and held up as a dictator?
His crime when he came to power and remained there on the back of numerous democratic elections was his refusal to allow Venezuela’s wealth to continue to be shipped out of the country, as it had been for decades, by a small group of Western-supported oligarchs.

What the crisis and conflict in Ukraine has done is remind us that we live in a unipolar world in which the West’s interests and rights are the only ones deemed legitimate. This is what drives the repeated attempts by Washington and its allies, especially the UK, to push a hegemonic agenda. And whether in the Middle East or in Europe, it is this agenda that has been the root cause of instability, conflict, and human suffering across the world that we have seen unfold in recent times. And this is without taking into account the decades of mayhem that has ensued before that.

The US is a global hegemon. With over 1,000 military bases covering the planet, 11 navy battle carrier groups, and a military budget currently exceeding that of every other major industrialized nation combined, the challenge facing the world is how to resist a US Empire that, to paraphrase the Roman historian Tacitus, is intent on making a desert and calling it peace.

The British political class and its media allies have made a virtue out of attaching themselves to the US Empire’s coattails. It is a sordid and eminently dishonorable relationship that has allowed the UK to parade itself as a first rate power when in truth it hardly qualifies as third rate. While Britain may no longer have an empire, an empire attitude towards the rest of the world continues to poison the minds of its leaders and proponents of the ideology of ‘democratization’, which is not to be confused with democracy.

Vladimir Putin and Russia’s crime is to dare to resist this US Empire, taking a stand against the hypocrisy, double standards, and complete lack of respect for other countries, cultures, and values it represents. The concerted attempt to expand NATO and an ever more militant EU all the way up to Russia’s border has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with the projection of imperial power masquerading as democracy.


An escalation of the conflict in eastern Ukraine benefits no one, least of all Russia. But the principle at stake is one that must be upheld – namely an end to the West dictating orders to the rest of the world and thereby spreading destabilization rather than peace, war instead of peace, and chaos at the expense of order.

At some point a viable political solution to the Ukrainian crisis will have to be agreed. But only equals can reach such an agreement, which will require an end to the infantile Russophobia that has become a feature of political discourse in the UK. Russia is not an enemy of the British people. The irresponsible and reckless disregard for European stability based on mutual respect is.

The UK has long been the cat’s paw of Washington within Europe. When the US sneezes it is ready with a handkerchief to blow its nose.
In fact it would be more apt to replace the word ‘alliance’ in Atlantic Alliance with ‘dependence’.

Meanwhile, when it comes to the British press, the poet Humbert Wolfe said it best: “You cannot hope to bribe or twist, thank God, the British journalist. But, seeing what the man will do unbribed, there's no occasion to.”

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby eklavya » 21 Feb 2015 15:13

The Economist:

Breaking out

Breaking out


MOST parts of Britain are doing better than Bradford, a smokestack town in West Yorkshire that has struggled since the collapse of the wool industry. But one comparison stings. Fatima Patel, the editor of Asian Sunday, a local newspaper, says Bradford’s leaders look ruefully at Tower Hamlets, a poor borough of London 200 miles to the south. And that comparison has an ethnic tinge, because Bradford is heavily Pakistani, whereas Tower Hamlets is the heart of Bangladeshi Britain (see maps).


In many people’s minds, and often in official statistics, the 447,201 people who called themselves Bangladeshi in the 2011 census and the 1,124,511 who identified themselves as Pakistani are lumped together. And the two groups have much in common. Mass immigration for both began in the 1950s. Both are largely working-class and Muslim. Both tend to vote Labour (see Bagehot). Both are concentrated in one business—restaurants in the case of Bangladeshis, taxi-driving among Pakistanis. But their fortunes are now diverging. And that says something about what it takes to succeed as an immigrant in Britain.

Even during the half-term holiday, the library in Morpeth School in Tower Hamlets is busy with mostly Bangladeshi children. Around three-quarters of the school’s pupils are so poor that they qualify for free school meals. A similar share do not speak English as their first language. And yet, last year, 70% got five good GCSEs, the exams taken at 16—much higher than the national average.

Pakistani pupils do not fare too badly in school either, considering how poorly educated and badly off their parents tend to be. But Bangladeshis overtook them more than a decade ago and have pulled farther ahead since then (see chart 1). Some 61% of Bangladeshis got five good GCSEs in 2014 compared with 51% of Pakistanis and 56% of British whites.

That will help their job prospects. Both Bangladeshis and Pakistanis have low employment rates because so many women do not work. But among the young, Bangladeshis are more likely to be studying or in work. And Yaojun Li, a sociologist at the University of Manchester, calculates that Bangladeshis’ average monthly household income, though still low, is now slightly higher than that of Pakistanis.


Bangladeshis born in Britain are also more likely than their Pakistani counterparts to socialise with people of a different ethnicity, according to another study (see chart 2). Both still overwhelmingly wed within their own ethnic group. But among young men, for whom marrying out is easier, 26% of Bangladeshis now do so compared with 17% of Pakistani youths.

The explanations lie partly in the past. Pakistanis—many of them from the rural Mirpur Valley in Kashmir—began to settle thickly in Britain in the 1960s. They often took jobs in the textile mills of the north and the foundries of the West Midlands.

Most Bangladeshis came later. Many men arrived in the 1970s as refugees, but the peak of migration was in the early 1980s, when the women and children turned up. They thus arrived when British industry was on the ropes—which was oddly lucky, suggests Shamit Saggar of Essex University. Though many were working in the rag trade, they had not committed themselves to one doomed industry. Pakistanis had: they suffered greatly from the collapse of British textile-making.

Those early jobs also drew the two groups to different bits of England. Today half of all Britain’s Bangladeshis live in London, compared to one-fifth of Pakistanis. Bangladeshis do not just tend to live in Britain’s most successful city, they also live in a particularly vibrant bit of it: Tower Hamlets surrounds the booming office district of Canary Wharf. Schools in London have improved much more than schools elsewhere, partly because they get more government money but also because the best teachers want to work there.

Pakistanis in London also benefit from the city’s improved schools; they do better there than in the rest of England. But research by Simon Burgess of the University of Bristol shows that geography does not explain the whole difference. Bangladeshis did better than Pakistanis both in London and outside the city in 2013.

East End advantage

The growing success of Bangladeshis appears odd because their living conditions are often so dismal. More than one-third live in social housing, compared with a national average of 18%. Near Morpeth School, a fence outside grotty flats is topped with upturned nails to deter intruders. Pakistanis are more likely to own houses. But, since those houses are often in the wrong place, that has not helped them much. Those living in decayed northern towns are tied to properties whose value is hardly rising, stopping them moving to more dynamic spots. “It is a stake that only allows you to move around the corner to equally bleak economies,” says Mr Saggar.

Cultural conservatism, which has deepened among many British Pakistanis, makes things worse. Cousin marriage is more common among Pakistanis than among Bangladeshis, as is the bringing over of partners from the subcontinent, argues Parveen Akhtar, a sociologist at the University of Bradford. Nuzhat Ali, a campaigner in the city, reckons such marriages are actually more common among recent Pakistani migrants than among their grandparents. The practice means that more Pakistanis in a city like Bradford are first-generation migrants than might be expected by now. It might also mean that young men are less driven to succeed—the desire to find a marriage partner being an unstated reason for going to university among people of all races.

The experience of Bangladeshis suggests that it is foolish to judge the success of immigrants after just a few years in Britain. It also bodes well for Somalis. Today they are among Britain’s most desperate migrants. But they, too, have the fortune to be concentrated in London. In parts of the city their school results are already improving sharply. They are struggling now—but their future could be much brighter. And their ambition is surging. Amina Ali, a Somali councillor from Tower Hamlets, is even hoping to be elected as a Labour Party MP in Bradford.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby panduranghari » 22 Feb 2015 14:42

Islamic Radicals at the height of Whitehall

Churchill's ghost must be delighted.


Entryism, the favourite tactic of the 1980s’ Militant Tendency, is when a political party or institution is infiltrated by groups with a radically different agenda. Since Militant’s Trotskyites were expelled from the Labour Party, the word has rather fallen out of fashion.


But now, according to one Muslim leader, Islamic radicals are practising entryism of their own — into the heart of Whitehall – courtesy of a woman who was until recently a government minister.


Baroness Warsi, the first Muslim woman to sit in Cabinet, handed official posts to people linked to Islamist groups, including a man involved in an “unpleasant and bullying” campaign to win planning permission for the controversial London “megamosque” proposed by a fundamentalist Islamic sect.



He sits – alongside other radicals or former radicals and their allies – on a “cross-Government working group on anti-Muslim hatred” set up by Lady Warsi and Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister.


Some members of the group are using their seats at the table to urge that Whitehall work with Islamist and extremist-linked bodies, including one described by the Prime Minister as a “political front for the Muslim Brotherhood”. Some are also pressing to lift bans on foreign hate preachers from entering Britain, including Zakir Naik, who has stated that “every Muslim should be a terrorist”.


Fiyaz Mughal, a former member of the working group, told The Telegraph that he had resigned in protest at its activities. “I was deeply concerned about the kinds of groups some of the members had connections with, and some of the groups they were recommending be brought into government,” he said. “It seemed to me to be a form of entryism, by people with no track record in delivering projects.” Mr Mughal is head of Tell Mama, the national organisation for monitoring anti-Muslim attacks.

Another member said: “The working group was Sayeeda [Warsi]’s personal project and she was responsible for the appointments. There was very little transparency about who was put on.”

The working group, set up in 2012, has continued after Lady Warsi’s resignation last summer in protest at the Government’s “morally indefensible” policy on the Gaza crisis. It is based in Eric Pickles’s Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) and includes officials from there, the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office, the Department for Education, the Foreign Office and the Crown Prosecution Service.

Among its most prominent non-government members is Muddassar Ahmed, a former senior activist in the Muslim Public Affairs Committee (MPAC), an extremist and anti-Semitic militant body which is banned from many universities as a hate group.


During Mr Ahmed’s time, MPAC campaigned heavily against “Zionist” MPs, in particular Jack Straw, the former foreign secretary, and Lorna Fitzsimons, the former Labour MP for Rochdale. She lost her seat after MPAC sent thousands of leaflets to local Muslim voters saying they should sack her because she was “Jewish”. She is not Jewish. MPAC has stated that Muslims are “at war” and that “every Muslim who does not participate in that war is committing a major sin”.

Mr Ahmed said that his “regrettable” MPAC activities were “many years in the past” and he was now a “very different person from what I was then”. He had not been involved in the racist campaign against Ms Fitzsimons, he said, but had concentrated on Mr Straw. The Government also insisted that Mr Ahmed had “dissociated himself” from MPAC and its “approach” to politics.

More recently, Mr Ahmed and his PR company, Unitas Communications, have played a role in a body called the Newham People’s Alliance (NPA), which was created to demonstrate “community support” for plans to create Britain’s biggest mosque near the Olympic Park in the east London borough of Newham.

The NPA blockaded Newham Town Hall after councillors refused planning permission for the mosque. It has run a virulent campaign against Sir Robin Wales, the borough’s mayor, calling him “Dirty Robin”, a “Zionist” and a racist and saying that no Muslim should vote for him.

It fiercely supports Lutfur Rahman, the extremist-linked mayor of the neighbouring borough, Tower Hamlets, saying Newham should be more like Tower Hamlets.(Tower Hamlets is considered one of the most deprived part of Britain though present within Londonistan) “It was a very vicious campaign, with a lot of lying and making things up, and they were close allies of Lutfur,” said Sir Robin last night.

“Muddassar Ahmed wanted to stand as candidate for us [Labour], but we blocked him because of his background.”

The mosque applicant, Tablighi Jamaat, a conservative Islamic sect accused by some of being a gateway to radicalism, is appealing against the refusal of planning permission.

Mr Ahmed and others from Unitas Communications represented the Newham People’s Alliance at the planning inquiry last June. “The NPA were very unpleasant and bullying people to deal with,” said Alan Craig, a former Newham councillor who led a rival campaign, MegaMosque No Thanks, at the inquiry.

The planning appeal will be decided by the Department for Communities and Local Government, the same ministry which runs the working group on anti-Muslim hatred on which

Mr Ahmed sits, although it reports to the Deputy Prime Minister. The decision will be announced next month.

Also on the working group is Iqbal Bhana, who has repeatedly praised the work of a body called the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC). The group has defended Abu Hamza, saying he has been “demonised” and claiming his recent terrorism conviction in America was an example of the “double standards of the British justice system in relation to Muslims”.

Other members include Iftikhar Awan, a former trustee of Islamic Relief, a charity with links to the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, and Sarah Joseph, a former spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), with which the current and previous governments have broken ties over its links to Islamism.


Some members of the working group have tried to get the Government to rebuild ties with the MCB and also to open new links with the IHRC and the Cordoba Foundation, a body described by David Cameron as a “political front for the Muslim Brotherhood”.

One working group member opposed to these attempts said: “Civil servants in the DCLG resisted strongly. They kept saying that there was nothing showing a change in the voice and opinions of these groups. But they were under tremendous pressure from Warsi.”

The working group was set up after Lady Warsi claimed in 2011 that Islamophobia had “passed the dinner-table test” and was “widespread and rising”. According to police figures at the time, anti-Muslim crime had been falling. Since the murder of Lee Rigby, the soldier, in 2013 such crime has risen, but still does not appear widespread. According to the Home Office, faith hate crimes, not all of which would be anti-Muslim, account for 5 per cent of hate crimes reported in England and Wales.

The Metropolitan Police, the only force that reports numbers for anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and homophobic crime, reports that per head in London, gay people and Jews are about four times more likely to be victims of hate crime than Muslims.

While there is no doubt that anti-Muslim hatred is real and is disgraceful, the charge of Islamophobia has also been abused by Muslim wrongdoers and their allies to smear critics and deter scrutiny. Another former member of the working group, Chris Allen, an academic, claimed that the “Trojan Horse” scandal – where schools were taken over by hardline Islamists – was a “hoax” and an example of Islamophobia in the UK.

Not all members of the working group are Islamist or radical sympathisers and there is no suggestion that any member is a supporter of violent extremism. Another member, Matthew Goodwin, the associate professor of politics at Nottingham University and an expert in hard-Right political movements, said he was not aware of any attempt by the group to push an Islamist agenda. He said that he and others had been frustrated at the group’s lack of progress.

Mr Ahmed said he was not responsible for the behaviour of the Newham People’s Alliance. He said they were a “very loose group, a group of guys we grew up with who asked us to help them out at the planning inquiry. Tablighi Jamaat have never been linked to any sort of extremism and we have got to be careful not to alienate them from mainstream discourse.” He said he and Unitas had not been paid by the sect or anyone else.

A DCLG spokesman said: “We are very clear that we will not fund or engage with groups which promote violent or non-violent extremism.

“All individuals represented on the cross-government working group on anti-Muslim hatred are committed to the peaceful integration of all communities.”

Lady Warsi was unavailable for comment. Last month, she fiercely criticised the Government for “defining many groups and individuals as beyond the pale,” saying: “We needed to bring more people into the fold rather than increasingly adopt positions which pushed groups and individuals out to the fringe.”

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby eklavya » 22 Feb 2015 14:49

BBC: UK security services 'failed' over Syria girls

Not sure which idiot at the BBC writes these headlines. Its better for these jihadis to be out of the UK than within it. Also good for the net migration statistics. Hopefully they find happiness in Syria and never come back.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Lalmohan » 22 Feb 2015 15:15

muslim apologists all over the tv this weekend blaming everybody for these girls going missing except for islam itself... the victim mentality and the sense of entitlement is hugely nauseating - "we must ask ourselves what we are doing as a society in britain that these girls feel that they have to go abroad and do this... why do they feel so alienated... " blah blah...

basically these girls want to service the jihadi foot soldiers as one of the earthly 72, let them enjoy till they are discarded
they are never coming back
good riddance

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Agnimitra » 22 Feb 2015 15:19

eklavya wrote:BBC: UK security services 'failed' over Syria girls

Not sure which idiot at the BBC writes these headlines.

You should hear the BBC podcasts on the PEGIDA marches in Germany.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby eklavya » 22 Feb 2015 16:10

Lalmohan wrote:muslim apologists all over the tv this weekend blaming everybody for these girls going missing except for islam itself... the victim mentality and the sense of entitlement is hugely nauseating - "we must ask ourselves what we are doing as a society in britain that these girls feel that they have to go abroad and do this... why do they feel so alienated... " blah blah...

basically these girls want to service the jihadi foot soldiers as one of the earthly 72, let them enjoy till they are discarded
they are never coming back
good riddance


The fault is obviously of the parents and the mullahs who advocate jihad. At the bottom of the BBC story:

Sara Khan from Inspire, an organisation which works to counter extremism and gender inequality, said 50 to 60 other young women are thought to have left the UK to join IS extremists.

"I don't think we can underplay the religious aspect to it," she told BBC Breakfast.

She added that many see it as a "religious obligation" - whereas in reality, they were "being exploited" and "groomed".

Ms Khan said relatives, especially mothers, could help prevent others leaving in a similar way by "recognising early signs and differences" in their children's behaviour and by challenging extremism.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby eklavya » 22 Feb 2015 16:49

BBC: Why homeless Britons are turning to the Sikh community for food

Homeless people in the UK are getting free meals thanks to a centuries-old Sikh tradition. Why, asks Rajeev Gupta.

"We come here because we get food... A hot meal. It's a luxury for me." John Davidson is 55 and homeless. He is one of 250 people who have just received a hand-out of hot soup, drinks, chocolate bars and other supplies from the Sikh Welfare and Awareness Team van parked up on the Strand in central London on a cold Sunday evening. The Swat team, as they're known, park at the same spot every week so a group of volunteers from the Sikh community can hand out vital supplies. Homeless people, who overwhelmingly are not Sikh, patiently wait in line to be served.

People queue up for food
For the volunteers handing out food here, this is more than just good charitable work. For them this is a religious duty enshrined by the founder of the Sikh religion, Guru Nanak, over 500 years ago. At a time of deep division by caste and religious infighting between Hindus and Muslims in India, Guru Nanak called for equality for all and set forward the concept of Langar - a kitchen where donated produce, prepared into wholesome vegetarian curry by volunteers, is freely served to the community on a daily basis.

Today, thousands of free Langar meals are served everyday in Sikh temples throughout the UK. The Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara in Southall, thought to be the biggest Sikh temple outside of India, says it alone serves 5,000 meals on weekdays and 10,000 meals on weekends. Every Sikh has the duty to carry out Seva, or selfless service, says Surinder Singh Purewal, a senior member of the temple management team. "It means we're never short of donations or volunteers to help prepare the Langar."

People serving the food
In recent times the Langar meal has acted as a barometer for the state of the economy. After the 2008 recession many Sikh temples reported a surge in the numbers of non-Sikhs coming in for the free Langar meals. It's now common to see non-Sikhs inside the temple, Purewal says: "We don't mind it. As long as people show respect, are not intoxicated and cover their heads in line with our traditions, then everyone is welcome."

The Swat team say they decided to take the concept of Langar outside its traditional setting in temples and out onto the streets when they saw a growing homelessness problem in London. Randeep Singh who founded SWAT says: "When you go to the temple, what's the message? The message is to help others, help your neighbours. That's what we are doing."

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Philip » 22 Feb 2015 19:27

Paki Islamist infiltration in Whitehall,tx to Baroness Warsi! The Paki slimeball,has infiltrated the heart of the British establishment and is now promoting radical terrorist Islam under the very noses of the Brit. establishment.Typical "votebank politics" by amoral Brit. politicos including CaMoron,and mainstream parties which is now destroying their own country from within.No wonder young Brit. girls of Paki origin are joining ISIS!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... ehall.html
Islamic 'radicals' at the heart of Whitehall
Baroness Warsi gave official roles to people with links to Islamist groups
Entryism, the favourite tactic of the 1980s’ Militant Tendency, is when a political party or institution is infiltrated by groups with a radically different agenda. Since Militant’s Trotskyites were expelled from the Labour Party, the word has rather fallen out of fashion.

But now, according to one Muslim leader, Islamic radicals are practising entryism of their own — into the heart of Whitehall – courtesy of a woman who was until recently a government minister.

Baroness Warsi, the first Muslim woman to sit in Cabinet, handed official posts to people linked to Islamist groups, including a man involved in an “unpleasant and bullying” campaign to win planning permission for the controversial London “megamosque” proposed by a fundamentalist Islamic sect.


He sits – alongside other radicals or former radicals and their allies – on a “cross-Government working group on anti-Muslim hatred” set up by Lady Warsi and Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister.

Some members of the group are using their seats at the table to urge that Whitehall work with Islamist and extremist-linked bodies, including one described by the Prime Minister as a “political front for the Muslim Brotherhood”. Some are also pressing to lift bans on foreign hate preachers from entering Britain, including Zakir Naik, who has stated that “every Muslim should be a terrorist”.

Fiyaz Mughal, a former member of the working group, told The Telegraph that he had resigned in protest at its activities. “I was deeply concerned about the kinds of groups some of the members had connections with, and some of the groups they were recommending be brought into government,” he said. “It seemed to me to be a form of entryism, by people with no track record in delivering projects.” Mr Mughal is head of Tell Mama, the national organisation for monitoring anti-Muslim attacks.

Another member said: “The working group was Sayeeda [Warsi]’s personal project and she was responsible for the appointments. There was very little transparency about who was put on.”

The working group, set up in 2012, has continued after Lady Warsi’s resignation last summer in protest at the Government’s “morally indefensible” policy on the Gaza crisis. It is based in Eric Pickles’s Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) and includes officials from there, the Ministry of Justice, the Home Office, the Department for Education, the Foreign Office and the Crown Prosecution Service.

Among its most prominent non-government members is Muddassar Ahmed, a former senior activist in the Muslim Public Affairs Committee (MPAC), an extremist and anti-Semitic militant body which is banned from many universities as a hate group.

Unitas CEO Muddassar Ahmed speaking as chair of John Adams society at parliament

During Mr Ahmed’s time, MPAC campaigned heavily against “Zionist” MPs, in particular Jack Straw, the former foreign secretary, and Lorna Fitzsimons, the former Labour MP for Rochdale. She lost her seat after MPAC sent thousands of leaflets to local Muslim voters saying they should sack her because she was “Jewish”. She is not Jewish. MPAC has stated that Muslims are “at war” and that “every Muslim who does not participate in that war is committing a major sin”.

Mr Ahmed said that his “regrettable” MPAC activities were “many years in the past” and he was now a “very different person from what I was then”. He had not been involved in the racist campaign against Ms Fitzsimons, he said, but had concentrated on Mr Straw. The Government also insisted that Mr Ahmed had “dissociated himself” from MPAC and its “approach” to politics.

More recently, Mr Ahmed and his PR company, Unitas Communications, have played a role in a body called the Newham People’s Alliance (NPA), which was created to demonstrate “community support” for plans to create Britain’s biggest mosque near the Olympic Park in the east London borough of Newham.

The NPA blockaded Newham Town Hall after councillors refused planning permission for the mosque. It has run a virulent campaign against Sir Robin Wales, the borough’s mayor, calling him “Dirty Robin”, a “Zionist” and a racist and saying that no Muslim should vote for him.

It fiercely supports Lutfur Rahman, the extremist-linked mayor of the neighbouring borough, Tower Hamlets, saying Newham should be more like Tower Hamlets. “It was a very vicious campaign, with a lot of lying and making things up, and they were close allies of Lutfur,” said Sir Robin last night.

“Muddassar Ahmed wanted to stand as candidate for us [Labour], but we blocked him because of his background.”

The mosque applicant, Tablighi Jamaat, a conservative Islamic sect accused by some of being a gateway to radicalism, is appealing against the refusal of planning permission.

Mr Ahmed and others from Unitas Communications represented the Newham People’s Alliance at the planning inquiry last June. “The NPA were very unpleasant and bullying people to deal with,” said Alan Craig, a former Newham councillor who led a rival campaign, MegaMosque No Thanks, at the inquiry.

The planning appeal will be decided by the Department for Communities and Local Government, the same ministry which runs the working group on anti-Muslim hatred on which

Mr Ahmed sits, although it reports to the Deputy Prime Minister. The decision will be announced next month.

Also on the working group is Iqbal Bhana, who has repeatedly praised the work of a body called the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC). The group has defended Abu Hamza, saying he has been “demonised” and claiming his recent terrorism conviction in America was an example of the “double standards of the British justice system in relation to Muslims”.


Other members include Iftikhar Awan, a former trustee of Islamic Relief, a charity with links to the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, and Sarah Joseph, a former spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), with which the current and previous governments have broken ties over its links to Islamism.

Iftikhar Awan

Some members of the working group have tried to get the Government to rebuild ties with the MCB and also to open new links with the IHRC and the Cordoba Foundation, a body described by David Cameron as a “political front for the Muslim Brotherhood”.

One working group member opposed to these attempts said: “Civil servants in the DCLG resisted strongly. They kept saying that there was nothing showing a change in the voice and opinions of these groups. But they were under tremendous pressure from Warsi.”

The working group was set up after Lady Warsi claimed in 2011 that Islamophobia had “passed the dinner-table test” and was “widespread and rising”. According to police figures at the time, anti-Muslim crime had been falling. Since the murder of Lee Rigby, the soldier, in 2013 such crime has risen, but still does not appear widespread. According to the Home Office, faith hate crimes, not all of which would be anti-Muslim, account for 5 per cent of hate crimes reported in England and Wales.

The Metropolitan Police, the only force that reports numbers for anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic and homophobic crime, reports that per head in London, gay people and Jews are about four times more likely to be victims of hate crime than Muslims.

While there is no doubt that anti-Muslim hatred is real and is disgraceful, the charge of Islamophobia has also been abused by Muslim wrongdoers and their allies to smear critics and deter scrutiny. Another former member of the working group, Chris Allen, an academic, claimed that the “Trojan Horse” scandal – where schools were taken over by hardline Islamists – was a “hoax” and an example of Islamophobia in the UK.

Not all members of the working group are Islamist or radical sympathisers and there is no suggestion that any member is a supporter of violent extremism. Another member, Matthew Goodwin, the associate professor of politics at Nottingham University and an expert in hard-Right political movements, said he was not aware of any attempt by the group to push an Islamist agenda. He said that he and others had been frustrated at the group’s lack of progress.

Mr Ahmed said he was not responsible for the behaviour of the Newham People’s Alliance. He said they were a “very loose group, a group of guys we grew up with who asked us to help them out at the planning inquiry. Tablighi Jamaat have never been linked to any sort of extremism and we have got to be careful not to alienate them from mainstream discourse.” He said he and Unitas had not been paid by the sect or anyone else.

A DCLG spokesman said: “We are very clear that we will not fund or engage with groups which promote violent or non-violent extremism.

“All individuals represented on the cross-government working group on anti-Muslim hatred are committed to the peaceful integration of all communities.”

Lady Warsi was unavailable for comment. Last month, she fiercely criticised the Government for “defining many groups and individuals as beyond the pale,” saying: “We needed to bring more people into the fold rather than increasingly adopt positions which pushed groups and individuals out to the fringe.”


Baroness Warsi's Obsession - Gatestone Institute
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4907/ ... -obsession

Nov 30, 2014 ... Yet Baroness Warsi ignores entirely the horrific and continual human rights abuses in her own family's homeland of Pakistan.

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Postby vishvak » 22 Feb 2015 19:38

Well, the UK govt better spend more towards hunger and poverty, going by reports of people availing themselves of 'hot meal'. I feel for these people and wonder how can this happen in a first world country that does not stop tomtoming its help to other countries.

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Postby Tuvaluan » 22 Feb 2015 19:46

It will be a great day when Britain has a muslim PM who allows an open door policy for citizens of Pakistan and other pure lands -- and given the current "liberal" tools in britain, that is not too far off. I will have an extra cup of coffee to celebrate that thought.A nuclear armed islamic state right in the middle of Europe -- praise the lord.

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Postby eklavya » 22 Feb 2015 19:59

The Economist: David Cameron’s many mansions

THE VVIP picture gallery at the Neasden mandir, one of the biggest outside India, provides a record of British general elections. Shortly before the 1997 one, John Major and Tony Blair both visited the north London temple, seeking darshan and the votes of Britain’s 500,000 Hindus. Gordon Brown, Mr Blair’s successor as Labour prime minister, sent his wife, Sarah Brown, a few weeks before the 2010 poll; the right-wing press made rude comments about her naked feet. David Cameron appears twice in the gallery, once alongside his sari-clad wife, Samantha, and both times, to his credit, mid-term. Like the red Hindu tilak the Tory prime minister wears smeared on his forehead in one photograph, this marks his enthusiasm for a conservative, industrious and furiously upwardly mobile community which should vote Tory, his party strategists often note, but mostly does not.

In the 2010 general election the Tories won 36% of the vote, but only 16% among ethnic-minority voters. “Not being white”, writes Lord Ashcroft, a pollster, “was the single best predictor that somebody would not vote Conservative.” By one estimate, this cost the party 24 seats, a tally that could soar. At the coming general election in May, 168 seats will have a population of ethnic-minority voters that is bigger than the incumbent MP’s majority. By 2050 almost one in three Britons could be non-white. A senior Tory calls this a “demographic time-bomb” for his party—an ethnological threat to its future viability of the sort America’s Republicans are already facing. If the loss of disaffected whites to the UK Independence Party (UKIP) does not kill the Tories, the disdain of Britain’s ethnic minorities might.

Mr Cameron vowed to sort things out. On his watch, the number of non-white Tory MPs has climbed from two to 11, and it will probably rise again in May. He has also tried to improve Britain’s ties with India, hosted Diwali parties, commissioned a statue of that half-naked fakir Mohandas Gandhi for Parliament Square and appointed non-white politicians, such as Baroness Warsi and Alok Sharma, to senior party posts. British Indians, a relatively fulsome 24% of whom voted Tory in 2010, are the main objects of this charm offensive; but by promising to curtail police powers to stop and search, a particular blight of black Britons, the Tories have blown a kiss at them, too. Meanwhile a new crop of hard-working Tory MPs—such as Bob Blackman in Harrow East and Gavin Barwell in Croydon—are cozying up to non-white voters with gusto. But still no cigar: polling published by YouGov this week suggests non-white voters remain deeply uncharmed.

Whereas the two big parties are level-pegging in the polls, Labour has a 64-point lead among British Bangladeshis, a 57-point lead among blacks and a 20-point lead among Indians. This disparity may cost Mr Cameron a second term in power, and if so it will be his fault. Because his efforts, though well-aimed, are intermittent, often insubstantial and, as such, dolefully indicative of Britain’s gadfly prime minister.

It is not as if the Tories underestimate the scale of their task: right-wing think-tanks write about the problem endlessly. They also have, in the example of the Canadian Conservatives, a blueprint for how to unburden themselves of it. When Stephen Harper became party leader in 2003, non-white Canadians were three times more likely to vote for the left-leaning Liberals. Now they are more likely to vote Conservative, a change Mr Harper wrought with a three-pronged strategy. By apologising for a piece of historic discrimination, the Chinese head tax, he signalled a break with Canada’s lily-skinned past. He meanwhile ordered his party to engage with ethnic minorities relentlessly. And he demanded it court ethnic-minority media outlets especially. Mr Cameron’s efforts are feeble by comparison.

Part of the trouble is too little effort. Mr Harper opened cabinet meetings by asking his ministers what ethnic-minority events they had recently attended; Mr Cameron has shown nothing like that tenacity on this, or indeed almost any, issue. And what he has done is too often illustrative of the colour-by-numbers methods of the professional politician, skilled in grid and message management but with little eye for the big picture.

He appears, for example, to consider Britain’s diplomatic overture to India a success in itself—never mind that India, which has changed quite a bit since the Tories last considered it, has barely noticed. His efforts to curb immigration, in a forlorn effort to head off UKIP, are more self-defeating. For though it is true, as the Tories say, that British Asians are as hostile to immigration as most Britons, they do not necessarily think about it the same way.

To temple and mosque, mixed messages

Worshippers at the Neasden temple decried the fact that tighter visa strictures could make it hard for their Indian cousins to visit, even as they deplored the EU immigration that Mr Cameron can do little to reduce. This risks making the party of Enoch Powell—whose 1960s diatribes against immigration are recalled by black Britons especially—appear less colour-blind than it truly is. Had Mr Cameron provided more inspiration for all Britons, by offering them a hopeful and inclusive Tory vision, such errors might have mattered less. Boris Johnson, the entertaining mayor of London, was twice chosen by a substantially non-white electorate. But vision is no more Mr Cameron’s strong suit than is strategy.

There is a pattern to this Tory self-harm. The party of Disraeli, Britain’s only Jewish prime minister, was until pretty recently shunned by Jews. The party of Heath—who in 1972 welcomed the Indians Idi Amin expelled—has never had their love. The party of Thatcher is decried by feminists. But the failure of Mr Cameron’s predecessors to take Britons of all hues with them, as they could have done, is no solace for him. The Tory-forever, white middle class they could count on for their majorities is no more. If the Tories are to win another, it must be multicoloured. To that end, Mr Cameron has started an overdue reorientation, but only just.

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Postby Lalmohan » 24 Feb 2015 12:36

interesting debate on the radio this morning where a muslim woman social worker stated very openly that young muslim girls were being groomed on line by 'people' supposedly for radicalisation but really for sexual purposes - finally someone who isnt apologising for islam and blaming everybody else!

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Postby Shreeman » 24 Feb 2015 12:51

^^^That is what the relijion says to do. why complain?

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Postby Philip » 24 Feb 2015 17:58

Hilarious! Spolisport Brit establishment,which has covered up the most shocking paedo crimes ,including "snuff acts",involving VIPs of the entire establishment,politicos,civil servants,police,judiciary,celebs,etc.,galore for decades,now want to spoil the fun of govt. bigwigs from "dipping their wicks" in an Irina,Natasha,Katarina, or a Ying,Jing,Wang! Lord,how I would love to "dine" with Anna Chapman.Anna honey,pl. "trap" me! :rotfl:

http://rt.com/news/203911-sex-russian-women-ban/
Top brass have been warned not to have sex with Russian and Chinese girls however stunning they may be, as it may turn out a ‘honeytrap’, a leaked UK Ministry of Defense (MoD) document says.

The paper, obtained by the Sunday Times,gives detailed instructions that the Russian intelligence, the FSB, may try to compromise and blackmail foreign agents “through knowledge of marital infidelity or sexual activity the target may wish to hide.”

Chinese intelligence, meanwhile, has a “voracious, vast and indiscriminate appetite” for all types of data, and allegedly recurs to blackmail as well.

The document states that Chinese intel agencies also recruit civilians to approach people from the West and collect information. As the paper puts it, “they do not ‘run agents’ they ‘make friends’.”

Those ‘friendly’ people are “expert flatterers” and are “well aware of the ‘softening’ effect of food and alcohol,” according to the document.

TV anchor Anna Chapman (RIA Novosti/Grigoriy Sisoev)

“The Chinese have realized that it is not productive to simply steal technology and then try to ‘reverse engineer it’,” getting “an in-depth understanding of production techniques and methodologies,” which represents grave economic risks to the UK, the document reads.

Thus, “sexual involvement should be avoided, as should any activity which can possibly be construed as illegal,” the ministry warns its employees abroad.

A senior top brass reportedly told the Sunday Times how a “stunning” blonde, “probably in her early thirties,” came up to him during a conference in Russia while he was reading a book at the hotel bar.

“She told me that her passion was vintage sports cars — which coincidentally was my hobby. <…> She was very friendly and affectionate. Lots of eye contact, laughing at my jokes — that sort of thing,” the source said.

But this was doomed to go nowhere as "a little alarm went off" in his head, and the man just “scarpered” after mumbling some excuse.

Yekaterina Zatuliveter (RIA Novosti/Elena Pakhomova)

"She wasn't asking you about tanks, you wimp!" Russian vice premier Dmitry Rogozin joked on his Facebook page.


The UK Ministry of Defense has so far not commented on the report.

MI5 and MI6 have recently started recruiting new Russian-speaking agents amid increased tensions with Moscow.

Among the most famous espionage cases, Anna Chapman, a Russian-born UK passport-holder and the daughter of a diplomat, was arrested in New York four years ago, accused of participating in a network of sleeper agents. She was deported following her arrest.

Also in 2010, Russian Ekaterina Zatuliveter was accused of being a Kremlin agent after UK intelligence found out she had had an affair with Commons Defense Committee MP Mike Hancock. The young woman denied the claim and won an appeal against her deportation.


Short on cannon fodder,and with the centenary of WW2,the Brits remembered the millions of Indian soldiers who fought for "king and country" esp. the Sikhs who made quite a stir in France when they landed,for their pride,gallant demeanour and incredible bravery,the new British "Impire" (empire that has "imploded",original word coined by moi) wants to raise a Sikh regiment to send Sikh troops yet again into the world's mespots.The Indian and Punjab govt. should swiftly and vociferously protest against this sordid attempt to use the Sikh community as cannon fodder .Sikhs are indeed welcome to join the Brit forces if citizens and they desire to do so,but raising a regiment smacks of racism and servility of the proud,brave,Sikh community as a whole. The Brits have realized that without the fiughting men of "Johnny Gurkha" and the Sikhs,they will continue to beat the retreat all over the world!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... iment.html
British Army examines plans to create a Sikh regiment
Armed Forces minister Mark Francois says unit would inherit many of the 'proud traditions of Sikh regiments' from the Army's past

By Ben Farmer, Defence Correspondent

23 Feb 2015
The head of the British Army is looking at proposals to recreate a Sikh regiment, a minister has said.
The Chief of the General Staff is examining the feasibility of a Sikh unit, including the possibility of a reserve company, and it “may well have merit”, Mark Francois told the Commons.

A new unit would inherit many of the “proud traditions of Sikh regiments” from the Army’s past, he said.

Thousands of Sikh soldiers served in the British Army in the 19th century and in the First and Second World Wars, and 10 Victoria Crosses have been won by soldiers serving in Sikh regiments.


Reviving a Sikh unit has been suggested several times in the past. One recent attempt was abandoned in 2007 by the Ministry of Defence amid fears that the move would be branded racist.

Speaking during defence questions in the Commons, Conservative former defence minister Sir Nicholas Soames urged ministers to "do away with political correctness" and raise a Sikh regiment.

He told Mr Francois: "You will be aware of the extraordinary gallant and distinguished service by Sikhs to this country down the generations.

"Would you not agree with me that it's high time to do away with the political correctness which infects some of this thinking and actually raise a Sikh regiment to serve in the country and make up a very serious gap in our Armed Forces?"

Mr Francois, minister for the Armed Forces, replied: "With regard to your specific suggestion, can I say that you are one of a number of Members of Parliament who have raised this suggestion with me recently.

"We have passed this possibility on to the chief of the general staff (CGS), who is now looking at this issue and we are awaiting CGS's comments back.

"But the idea may well have merit."

Soldiers from 3 Regiment Army Air Corps on parade in Aldeburgh in Suffolk (Crown copyright)

Conservative Rory Stewart, chairman of the Defence Select Committee, suggested a Sikh company within the reserves could be explored "as a starting point".

He added: "There seems to be much more possibility within the reserves to begin what seems like an excellent idea."

Mr Francois replied: "I said earlier the idea may have merit but we've looked at one specific option, or are looking, at the possibility of a reserve company – not least one which would inherit many of the proud traditions of Sikh regiments going back through many years in the British Army.

Troops from 1st Battalion Royal Regiment of Scotland marching at Dreghorn Barracks (Crown copyright)

"[Defence Minister Julian Brazier} is leading on that particular aspect and he too remains in contact with CGS on this matter."

In 2007, the MoD scrapped a similar plan after the Commission for Racial Equality advised it could be seen as divisive and amounted to "segregation".

The latest manning figures show the Armed Forces have around 160 Sikhs in their ranks, including 130 in the Army. Last year an official British Armed Forces Sikh Association was formed.

Lord Singh, director of the Network of Sikh Organisations, said a Sikh unit was something “that would be nice if it happened”.

He warned it had been suggested many times and had always proved difficult.

He said: “There aren’t that many Sikhs in the Army. A regiment needs a bit more. There needs to be some enticement to go, but with all the defence cuts, the Army may not look that tempting.”

The recent disclosure that the British military had advised Indira Gandhi over her 1984 attack on Sikh separatists barricaded in Amritsar's Golden Temple, may have led to some bad feeling among Sikhs in Britain, though he suggested this would pass with time.

He said: “There are some major difficulties. It’s something that would be nice if it happened.”

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/investigations/11411007/Jack-Straw-and-Sir-Malcolm-Rifkind-in-latest-cash-for-access-scandal.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/investigations/11430777/Jack-Straw-to-take-job-for-firm-he-lobbied-for-in-Commons.html

ack Straw is to take a job with a firm which won a £75 million government contract after he lobbied a minister on its behalf, The Telegraph can disclose.
The former foreign secretary boasted to undercover reporters that he had helped the furniture firm “get on the ladder” and secure contracts to supply the Government.
•Sir Malcolm Rifkind to step down as MP and resigns from security committee
He privately lobbied Francis Maude, the Cabinet Office minister, on behalf of the company, Senator International - and will take an executive position with the firm after the next election


Mr Straw’s relationship with Senator International has never previously been disclosed and it highlights a potential loophole in Parliamentary rules which allows MPs to lobby for companies they will later join.
The latest revelation comes after a joint investigation by the Telegraph and Channel Four’s Dispatches programme exposed Mr Straw and Sir Malcolm Rifkind, another former foreign secretary. Both offered to use their positions as politicians on behalf of a fictitious Chinese company in return for payments of at least £5,000 per day.
Mr Straw has been suspended from the parliamentary Labour Party and Sir Malcolm has been suspended by the Conservatives. They both now face an investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner.


he Chinese “company” wanted to form an advisory board. Undercover reporters met Sir Malcolm at the fictional firm’s Mayfair office in January. Sir Malcolm, who served as foreign secretary under Sir John Major, described the access he could offer.
He said he could meet “any ambassador that I wish to see” in London. “They’ll all see me personally”, he added.
“That provides access in a way that is, is useful”.
In a second meeting, Sir Malcolm suggested that he would be willing to write to ministers on behalf of the company without declaring the name of the firm.


The undercover reporters met Mr Straw at his office in the House of Commons.
The MP explained how he had helped ED&F Man, a commodities company with a sugar refinery in Ukraine, change an EU regulation by meeting officials in Brussels.
He also claimed that he had overturned a law in Ukraine that would have hindered the commodities firm operating a factory they had recently refurbished.
The law made their activities “completely uneconomic” and so Mr Straw took company representatives to see Mykola Azarov, the then Ukrainian prime minister, in September 2011.
“It’s a combination of sort of charm and menace … I mean he [the prime minister] understood.”

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Postby Tuvaluan » 27 Feb 2015 22:51

Some other corporate interest or country is after Essar UK -- first Priya Pillai goes to UK to testify against Essar and is stopped -- and today Indian express has 6 articles, all of which insinuate that Essar is involved in paying off Indian politicians on all sides.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/essar-leaks-french-cruise-for-gadkari-favours-to-upa-minister-journalists/

and there is a trending twitter tag #EssarLeaks , someone is out to mess with Essar's plans in India.

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... te-raiders
The East India Company: The original corporate raiders

One of the very first Indian words to enter the English language was the Hindustani slang for plunder: “loot”. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, this word was rarely heard outside the plains of north India until the late 18th century, when it suddenly became a common term across Britain. To understand how and why it took root and flourished in so distant a landscape, one need only visit Powis Castle. Powis is simply awash with loot from India, room after room of imperial plunder, extracted by the East India Company in the 18th century.There are more Mughal artefacts stacked in this private house in the Welsh countryside than are on display at any one place in India – even the National Museum in Delhi. The painting shows a scene from August 1765, when the young Mughal emperor Shah Alam, exiled from Delhi and defeated by East India Company troops, was forced into what we would now call an act of involuntary privatisation. The scroll is an order to dismiss his own Mughal revenue officials in Bengal, Bihar and Orissa, and replace them with a set of English traders appointed by Robert Clive – the new governor of Bengal – and the directors of the EIC, who the document describes as “the high and mighty, the noblest of exalted nobles, the chief of illustrious warriors, our faithful servants and sincere well-wishers, worthy of our royal favours, the English Company”. The collecting of Mughal taxes was henceforth subcontracted to a powerful multinational corporation – whose revenue-collecting operations were protected by its own private army.It was at this moment that the East India Company (EIC) ceased to be a conventional corporation, trading and silks and spices, and became something much more unusual. Within a few years, 250 company clerks backed by the military force of 20,000 locally recruited Indian soldiers had become the effective rulers of Bengal. An international corporation was transforming itself into an aggressive colonial power.Using its rapidly growing security force – its army had grown to 260,000 men by 1803 – it swiftly subdued and seized an entire subcontinent. Astonishingly, this took less than half a century. The first serious territorial conquests began in Bengal in 1756; 47 years later, the company’s reach extended as far north as the Mughal capital of Delhi, and almost all of India south of that city was by then effectively ruled from a boardroom in the City of London. “What honour is left to us?” asked a Mughal official named Narayan Singh, shortly after 1765, “when we have to take orders from a handful of traders who have not yet learned to wash their bottoms?”It was not the British government that seized India, but a private company, run by an unstable sociopath
We still talk about the British conquering India, but that phrase disguises a more sinister reality. It was not the British government that seized India at the end of the 18th century, but a dangerously unregulated private company headquartered in one small office, five windows wide, in London, and managed in India by an unstable sociopath – Clive.
When it suited, the EIC made much of its legal separation from the government. It argued forcefully, and successfully, that the document signed by Shah Alam – known as the Diwani – was the legal property of the company, not the Crown, even though the government had spent a massive sum on naval and military operations protecting the EIC’s Indian acquisitions. But the MPs who voted to uphold this legal distinction were not exactly neutral: nearly a quarter of them held company stock, which would have plummeted in value had the Crown taken over. For the same reason, the need to protect the company from foreign competition became a major aim of British foreign policy.Before long the province, already devastated by war, was struck down by the famine of 1769, then further ruined by high taxation. Company tax collectors were guilty of what today would be described as human rights violations. A senior official of the old Mughal regime in Bengal wrote in his diaries: “Indians were tortured to disclose their treasure; cities, towns and villages ransacked; jaghires and provinces purloined: these were the ‘delights’ and ‘religions’ of the directors and their servants.”No great sophistication was required. The entire contents of the Bengal treasury were simply loaded into 100 boats and punted down the Ganges from the Nawab of Bengal’s palace to Fort William, the company’s Calcutta headquarters. A portion of the proceeds was later spent rebuilding Powis.Instead, all their conversation was focused firmly on the future, and the reception India’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, had just received on his trip to America. One of the guards proudly showed me the headlines in the local edition of the Times of India, announcing that Allahabad had been among the subjects discussed in the White House by Modi and President Obama. The sentries were optimistic. India was finally coming back into its own, they said, “after 800 years of slavery”. The Mughals, the EIC and the Raj had all receded into memory and Allahabad was now going to be part of India’s resurrection. “Soon we will be a great country,” said one of the sentries, “and our Allahabad also will be a great city.”
In Milton’s Paradise Lost, the great Mughal cities of Jahangir’s India are shown to Adam as future marvels of divine design. This was no understatement: Agra, with a population approaching 700,000, dwarfed all of the cities of Europe, while Lahore was larger than London, Paris, Lisbon, Madrid and Rome combined. This was a time when India accounted for around a quarter of all global manufacturing. In contrast, Britain then contributed less than 2% to global GDP, and the East India Company was so small that it was still operating from the home of its governor, Sir Thomas Smythe, with a permanent staff of only six. It did, however, already possess 30 tall ships and own its own dockyard at Deptford on the Thames.Six years before Roe’s expedition, on 28 August 1608, William Hawkins had landed at Surat, the first commander of a company vessel to set foot on Indian soil. Hawkins, a bibulous sea dog, made his way to Agra, where he accepted a wife offered to him by the emperor, and brought her back to England. This was a version of history the House of Commons hanging committee chose to forget.The destruction of Mughal power by Nadir Shah, and his removal of the funds that had financed it, quickly led to the disintegration of the empire. That same year, the French Compagnie des Indes began minting its own coins, and soon, without anyone to stop them, both the French and the English were drilling their own sepoys and militarising their operations. Before long the EIC was straddling the globe. Almost single-handedly, it reversed the balance of trade, which from Roman times on had led to a continual drain of western bullion eastwards. The EIC ferried opium to China, and in due course fought the opium wars in order to seize an offshore base at Hong Kong and safeguard its profitable monopoly in narcotics. To the west it shipped Chinese tea to Massachusetts, where its dumping in Boston harbour triggered the American war of independence.

Estimated to have cost $4.9bn – perhaps the second most expensive ballot in democratic history after the US presidential election in 2012 – it brought Narendra Modi to power on a tidal wave of corporate donations. Exact figures are hard to come by, but Modi’s Bharatiya Janata party (BJP), is estimated to have spent at least $1bn on print and broadcast advertising alone. Of these donations, around 90% comes from unlisted corporate sources, given in return for who knows what undeclared promises of access and favours. The sheer strength of Modi’s new government means that those corporate backers may not be able to extract all they had hoped for, but there will certainly be rewards for the money donated.In September, the governor of India’s central bank, Raghuram Rajan, made a speech in Mumbai expressing his anxieties about corporate money eroding the integrity of parliament: “Even as our democracy and our economy have become more vibrant,” he said, “an important issue in the recent election was whether we had substituted the crony socialism of the past with crony capitalism, where the rich and the influential are alleged to have received land, natural resources and spectrum in return for payoffs to venal politicians. By killing transparency and competition, crony capitalism is harmful to free enterprise, and economic growth. And by substituting special interests for the public interest, it is harmful to democratic expression.”His anxieties were remarkably like those expressed in Britain more than 200 years earlier, when the East India Company had become synonymous with ostentatious wealth and political corruption: “What is England now?” fumed the Whig litterateur Horace Walpole, “A sink of Indian wealth.” In 1767 the company bought off parliamentary opposition by donating £400,000 to the Crown in return for its continued right to govern Bengal. But the anger against it finally reached ignition point on 13 February 1788, at the impeachment, for looting and corruption, of Clive’s successor as governor of Bengal, Warren Hastings. It was the nearest the British ever got to putting the EIC on trial, and they did so with one of their greatest orators at the helm – Edmund Burke.

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Postby ramana » 05 Mar 2015 10:12

It is this lootera EIC that Man Mohan Singh extols!!!
What an idiot!

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Postby panduranghari » 05 Mar 2015 11:42

The take home point is- EIC was successful. Britain is very seriously in decline. And they are looking towards EIC as the role model for future. It's exhibited in every bit that Britain is trying to do- Sikh regiment, Indian summer television drama, priya pillai, becoming the biggest on shore tax haven in current climes, promoting Chinese RMB trading exclusively through London. They neither have the men nor the muscle to do that any more. And the world should be eternally grateful for this.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Shreeman » 05 Mar 2015 18:10

The BBC is doing its best to divert "sexual attention" to India and away from rotherham redux on industrial scale.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Kashi » 05 Mar 2015 18:27

Shreeman wrote:The BBC is doing its best to divert "sexual attention" to India and away from rotherham redux on industrial scale.


Not to mention the the sudden outbreak of peadophile leakages involving their high and mighty.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby panduranghari » 05 Mar 2015 18:34

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chetak wrote:^^^^^^^

At long last!!!

This is what she had come to say. :wink: White man has not discharged his burden equitably??


She actually branded 'all' Indian males as potential rapists. ( at 1 hour 40 min)

Listen to this here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0542xt5

you could use http://free-proxyserver.com/ or else it may not be accessible.

starting 1hr 35 min. Of course while driving to work, I have the choicest cuss words I could think of. She starts by saying - how glad she is to be back safely to Britain. AS IF SHE WAS GOING TO BE RAPED MIDAIR? Seriously.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby vishvak » 05 Mar 2015 21:13

Within UK, media gagged
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Two newspaper executives have told the Observer that their publications were issued with D-notices .. – when they sought to report on allegations of a powerful group of men engaging in child sex abuse in 1984
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One executive said he had been accosted in his office by 15 uniformed and two non-uniformed police over a dossier on Westminster paedophiles passed to him by the former Labour cabinet minister Barbara Castle.
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that 114 Home Office files related to child abuse in the 1980s had gone missing.
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said it was a matter of deep concern that D-notice correspondence had also disappeared, presumed destroyed. D-notices to media outlets are rare, with just five sent in 2009 and 10 in 2010
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So I put someone on to it, the chief reporter I think, to make inquiries. It was the following day that we had a D-notice slapped on us; the reporter came over and told me. It was the only time in my career.”
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The files contained the name of 16 MPs said to be involved and another 40 who were supportive of the goals of the Paedophile Information Exchange, which sought to reduce the age of consent.

A week or so ago, there was a report of Saville Sir Jimmy exploiting more people in another hospital - patients, visitors, volunteers and even visiting fundraisers! link
Another link link
NHS is still vulnerable to abuse by paedophiles like Savile, report reveals
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allegedly had sex with bodies in Leeds mortuary and took glass eyes

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Prem » 06 Mar 2015 00:13

British politicians are cowards, sexual grooming is taking place everywhere in Britain: Tommy Robinson
http://zeenews.india.com/exclusive/brit ... 56795.html

tephen Yaxley-Lennon popularly known as Tommy Robinson is the co-founder of English Defence League (EDL), the biggest movement against what it perceives is the radical Islam. EDL is considered ‘far right,’ and ‘racist’ by liberal left of the country but the co-founder Tommy Robinson does not agree with those tags. He wears nationalism on his sleeves even after a brutal assault on him while serving a jail term that left him with bruises all over. The co-founder of EDL left the organization in 2013, fearing that it would be overtaken by radical elements but today he is happy that his ‘doubts’ have been put to rest by the organization that he created with such zeal. Here is an interview with him:
EDL, your brainchild, is considered to be racist. How do you see that?
That is not true. EDL has had wide participation from people from all groups. We only have problem with the Muslim community and their hatred for our culture and us. We want them to integrate well and not have any Shariah courts etc.
What kind of hatred are you speaking of?
The kind of hatred that Imams show for our community like calling White women derogatory names, sexual grooming of young women and hating our way of life. Today there are hundreds of areas where Sharia courts function here and Jewish people are leaving for Israel as they are scared because of the rise of anti-Semitism and that is only because of Muslims. It is a known fact that today terrorism is being funded in Britain by Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
You mentioned sexual grooming of kids. Earlier as well you made a very controversial statement in which you said that police sat on the cases because they were scared of being called ‘racist.’
Yes. That is true. The police are scared and that is one reason why such things (sexual grooming) are happening everywhere. The press, and everyone else calls these grooming gangs as ‘Asian’ but Hindus, Sikhs and others are not part of these grooming gangs. When we analyzed we saw that majority of the people came from the Muslim community and were mostly Pakistanis, Afghans and others. This is unfair to other religious groups but police is scared so no action is taken against these people. British politicians are cowards, they are scared of the violence that Muslim community can perpetuate and hence, they keep quiet. It is all votebank politics.
But if you want to address such a situation, then mainstream voice is necessary. Why don’t you attach yourself with a political group probably like British National Party and UK Independence Party?
British National Party is a racist organization, I cannot be part of that but UKIP is doing well. However, I cannot be part of a political group because of the conditions attached, but this is sure that we will continue to work on the cause.
Are you seeing your future with EDL?
I see EDL doing well and I am certainly open to it.
Do you have any support from the majority because when you were going to address the Oxford Union, protestors did protest against you calling you a racist who must not be allowed to speak at a prestigious gathering?
You see those were all Leftist people, we have been ruled by Left for quite some time now. They hate nationalism, they hate patriotism and everything related to that. I have support from the common working class and the middle class because they are the ones who have to suffer the most and they are also scared of growing radicalization of Muslim community.
He also mentioned that while on camera you refused to eat halal, off camera you do indulge in it.
That is a lie. I do not support halal and I do not even eat it as it is very discriminatory. 30 percent of all food is halal and several items do not even mention that these are halal. Important is to know that most part of the halal industry goes to fund terrorism.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Tuvaluan » 06 Mar 2015 01:03

Now UK political narrative is about votebank politics and the mollycoddling of regressive islamic bigots. who would've thunk.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Karan Dixit » 06 Mar 2015 08:32

BBC is a propaganda outlet. Propaganda outlets are weapons. We do not seem to realize this. I have been saying this for years that BBC needs to be banned from operating in India. As a matter of fact, there must be heavy duty restrictions on all these so called British journalists. The problem needs to be nipped in the bud. Instead, we let these scum bags operate freely in India and then we try to react afterward.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby member_23370 » 06 Mar 2015 09:10

Uk is the pedophilia captiol of the world. Maybe India should highlight the fact and put up travel advisories.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Prem » 06 Mar 2015 09:16

Bri-Trishits have fired the first shot of new 4g warfare . Doval Doctrine calls for sponsoring few hundreds of pure Paki to spread more Pakiness in Brishit society.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Karan Dixit » 06 Mar 2015 09:30

All British male visitors to India must undergo background check by Indian authorities to ensure that they are not a pedophile. This is common sense actually given all the pedophilia coming from UK.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 06 Mar 2015 09:52

panduranghari wrote:x post from GDF

chetak wrote:^^^^^^^

At long last!!!

This is what she had come to say. :wink: White man has not discharged his burden equitably??


She actually branded 'all' Indian males as potential rapists. ( at 1 hour 40 min)

Listen to this here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0542xt5

you could use http://free-proxyserver.com/ or else it may not be accessible.

starting 1hr 35 min. Of course while driving to work, I have the choicest cuss words I could think of. She starts by saying - how glad she is to be back safely to Britain. AS IF SHE WAS GOING TO BE RAPED MIDAIR? Seriously.


In NDTV documentary she claimed she was a RAPE victim- was she raped in India or in her SAFE Briton?

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby member_23370 » 06 Mar 2015 10:14

If she was raised in Uk I am not surprised if she was molested as a kid.

whoops typo...
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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 06 Mar 2015 10:16

Bheeshma wrote:If she was raped in Uk I am not surprised if she was molested as a kid.


And why not highlight that

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Philip » 06 Mar 2015 10:58

When Princess Diana was tragically killed/assassinated in Paris,did the BBC flaunt pics of her dying in the wrecked Merc? Did they interview the hospital staff to find out more about her injuries? Did they pursue the white Fiat Uno that was seen by a resident racing out of the tunnel in the immediate aftermath of the accident? Did they follow up the reports that driver Henri Paul was an intel agent for the French,etc.? Did they follow up reports that his/the blood sample had so much alcohol that the individual would not have been able to stand let alone drive? What about reports about Brit intel agents in Paris at the time?

Out of 11 MI6 officers based in Paris at the time of the crash, only one was cross-examined and his identity was withheld from the Inquest jury.
A strong string of circumstantial evidence and documentary evidence points to the three most senior officers being replaced by Sherad Cowper Coles, Dr. Valery Caton and Richard Spearman in the days preceeding the crash. Caton and Coles were not heard from at the Inquest and Spearman was heard from but not identified to the Jury.
Corruption at Scotland Yard shows that Lord John Stevens, Lord Paul Condon and Sir David Veness colluded and lied repeatedly during their extensive? inquest cross-examinations. Stevens presided over one? of the largest sham investigations in the history of? British?? policing, Operation Paget.An operation that the? public believed was designed to investigate the Paris crash was instead used to cover? up the truth of what occurred protecting the perpetrators of the assassination of Princess Diana.


NO,the BBC covered up/pooh-poohed all reports that allegedly implicated the Royal Family and the Brit security services. Let's look at the paedo scandals rocking the nation today.

Entertainer and knight,Sir Jimmy saville was from the evidence available today,one of the world's worst serial paedo offenders ever,with hundreds of cases covered up.The paedo ring included top politicians,bureaucrats,policemen,celebritiies whose lecherous,perverted and brutal activities were conveniently swept under the rug for decades! Even US reports about royal prince "Randy Andy" cavorting with underage girls in the US along with his bum-chum,the US's worst serial paedo ever,Jeffrey Epstein,are being covered up by the palace. Even his dubious business dealings with notorious dictators worldwide

http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/01/06/p ... icted-pimp
Prince Andrew, Dershowitz Accused of Sex With Minor; Reports Link Clinton to Convicted 'Pimp'

Andrew's greed, addiction to shady plutocrats and reckless self-indulgence could imperil the one institution most Britons still hold dear
By Stephen Glover for The Daily Mail
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... z3TaEVOSCC

Where is the BBC when these most serious and shocking revelations appear about their blue-blooded royals and political/establishment elite?

The GOI in the absence of an apology from the CMan of the BBC should simply kick the scumbags out of India until such an apology is made to the nation and the parents of the victim,Nirbhaya,whose true identity was shamefully splashed by the sh*tworm who made the documentary for her own salacious and mercenary ends. A "fatwa" should be placed upon her head by the GOI,to be brought to India by any means to stand trial .

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Philip » 06 Mar 2015 11:18

http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/councillors ... ove/p-i-e/

Here is a list of infamous British paedohiles,enjoy the revelations!
Database of UK and Eire paedophiles/child abusers

Just one famous case of a Brit. diplomat/ambassador
Diplomat Sir Peter Hayman, a decorated diplomat who lived a secret life as a paedophile, was named by MP Geoffrey Dickens in 1981 using Parliamentary privilege.

The new document, revealed today by Sky News, was written about the same period.

Hayman was member ‘330’ of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), which supported and encouraged illegal sexual relationships between adults and children.

He rented a flat at 95 Linden Gardens, Notting Hill Gate, London under the name of Peter Henderson to store PIE literature and graphic correspondence with fellow paedophiles.

But Sir Peter made a mistake and left a packet of paedophile material in an envelope on a London bus.

It was addressed to Mr Henderson at Linden Gardens in Notting Hill.Soon afterwards, in November 1978, police raided the Linden Gardens flat.

What they found there was a huge trove of paedophilia and other extreme *****.

Among it was a library of 45 substantial diaries in which Sir Peter had recorded in detail his sexual experiences and fantasies, the latter including sex with minors.

Even the hardened police of the Obscene Publications Squad were ‘revolted’ by the Linden Gardens haul.

He sobbed as he was interviewed and feared he would be exposed and his reputation ruined. And yet he wasn’t.

Much to the anger and disbelief of the Obscene Publications Squad he was only given a caution. He died in 1992 aged 77.

Geoffrey Dickens also said that an unnamed senior civil servant was helping to run a paedophile ring from Whitehall.

The MP claimed the man had at least 57 obscene slides of men having sex with children.

He said at the time: ‘I’m concerned about the cover-up of a senior civil servant who is a paedophile and wants sex with children legalised. He is a security risk’.

Secret ‘Unnatural Sex’ File Names Top Diplomat

A top British diplomat was the focus of a secret government file about his “unnatural” sexual behaviour, Sky News can reveal.

The file, which has just been released to the National Archives, names the late Sir Peter Hayman as the subject of the file prepared for then-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

It has now been transferred to the archives in Kew, south west London, under the title “PREM 19/588 SECURITY. Sir Peter Hayman: allegations against former public official of unnatural sexual proclivities; security aspects”.

Sir Peter died in 1992 but during his career worked as a diplomat including as High Commissioner to Canada. He also worked for intelligence service MI6.

He was named as an abuser of children by the MP Geoffrey Dickens in the 1980s and also had links to the controversial Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE).
The file has been retained on grounds of national security and held by officials at the Cabinet Office, the department responsible for the smooth running of government.


http://tabublog.com/2015/01/28/part-iii ... h-royalty/

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Philip » 06 Mar 2015 11:55

To the BBC scumbags? Why don't you cover the cover-up of sex crimes in the UK instead of preaching to India and the world?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/cr ... 89396.html
Oxford whistleblower's attempt to protect young victim of a sadistic gang went unheeded
‘I can’t see how they can say senior managers didn’t know about abuse...’

Paul Peachey
crime correspondent

A council whistleblower silenced by managers after raising the alarm about child sexual abuse in Oxfordshire has told how he believes senior staff must have known what was going on.

Dermot Norridge has been revealed as the retired police officer who detailed his concerns in a string of emails about one of six child victims targeted by sadistic gang members, six years before some of them were eventually jailed.

Despite alerting senior child protection staff, Mr Norridge was accused of being unprofessional and ordered to stop sending the emails. His unheeded warnings were revealed earlier this week in a serious case review of the catastrophic failings of Oxfordshire police and social services that allowed an estimated 370 girls to be sexual ly exploited.

Seven men were jailed in 2013 for crimes against the six girls following an investigation launched four years after Mr Norridge first reported seeing 14 and 15-year-old girls in cars with older men. The seven were found guilty of many offences – including 25 against the girl whom Mr Norridge had been trying to protect.

Mr Norridge told The Independent that he suspected financial pressure was one of the reasons why officials failed to back his request to move the child into secure accommodation outside the area after he spotted the 13-year-old under covers with an adult at a flat he was monitoring.

Seven out of the nine men on trial in 2013 were found guilty of abusing girls in Oxford - two were acquitted of all charges (PA) Seven out of the nine men on trial in 2013 were found guilty of abusing girls in Oxford - two were acquitted of all charges (PA)
Mr Norridge had left the police after 30 years and was working with Oxford city council on tackling anti-social behaviour on estates, when he was told by neighbours about groups of men leaving a flat in the early hours. He said it swiftly became obvious that nothing was being done.

The former child protection officer said his alarm was so great that he once demanded to speak to the director of social services. An assistant director was sent to speak to him. “I was just trying to get somebody to do something,” he said. “I can’t see how they can say that senior managers didn’t know. It became rather like a table-tennis match. I sent the emails because I was trying to get some attention and to get protection for the child. My emails were pointed, they were demanding, and they were saying things like: ‘can you live with the risk that this girl is exposed?’”

Mr Norridge said that he contacted Andy Couldrick, then head of children’s social care at the county council and now the chief executive of Wokingham Borough Council in Berkshire. He also sent intelligence reports to the police and emailed other senior social service managers.

During one exchange with Mr Couldrick, Mr Norridge suggested the girl should be moved to secure accommodation. “He [Mr Couldrick] didn’t accept it,” said Mr Norridge. “He regarded it as draconian… he said we don’t do that anymore as if I was somebody from the old school. At least she would have been protected. It did cross my mind whether this was a financial issue.”

The report provides backing for Mr Norridge’s claim. It says that social workers reported that “asking for an out-of-county placement was seen as a failure and an unacceptable demand on budgets”. It also said staff reported an “oppressive culture” within the department.

Mr Couldrick later asked a senior colleague to complain about Mr Norridge’s emails and his style, the report reveals. A senior counterpart responded by “unreservedly” apologising for Mr Norridge’s attitude and the way he had acted.

“They now assert that senior managers didn’t know – and yet a complaint was made by senior county managers to senior managers at Oxford city council about the language and my approach,” said Mr Norridge. “They never said: ‘Dermot, come and have a meeting’.”

He was told by his manager that the county council “did not like senior staff being criticised by a junior person”, according to the report. Oxfordshire County Council has said that there was “absolutely no attempt” to discourage Mr Norridge from tackling the issues that he was dealing with.

In a statement, Mr Couldrick said the “concerns were not ignored, but different decisions were taken” about the girl’s welfare. “This led to us continuing with what turned out to be the wrong approach,” he said. “We did not understand this type of abuse and its scale at that time, and were focused on individual young people. Like everyone else, I deeply regret that we didn’t have the correct information.”


The latest news about Brit sex crimes involving VIPs.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... ation.html
Harvey Proctor's home searched in child sex abuse investigation

Home of former Conservative MP searched by officers investigating historic child sex abuse claims by Westminster VIP paedophile ring as he denies any wrong-doing

Operation Midland was launched by the Met last November following allegations that boys were sexually abused by a VIP paedophile ring centred around Westminster more than 30 years ago. Some of the parties are said to have taken place at the Dolphin Square apartment complex which is home to many MPs.

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Officers are investigating allegations that three boys linked to the alleged ring were murdered.

While Mr Proctor's house was being raided he phoned Radio 4's Today Programme to deny any wrong-doing.

The former MP said he had never attended "sex parties" and knew nothing about allegations that three young boys had been murdered by pedophiles with links to Westminster.

Mr Proctor said that, although he had been convicted of gross indecency in 1987, his crimes related to encounters which would not be illegal today.

He had been engaged in sexual relationships with boys he believed at the time were over 21, the age of consent at the time. The age of consent for homosexuals has since been lowered to 16.

Mr Proctor also said he was the victim of homophobia. Claiming he was caught up in a "Kafka-esque situation," he went on: "I have never attended sex parties at Dolphin Square or anywhere else.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby vishvak » 06 Mar 2015 20:18

Karan Dixit wrote:All British male visitors to India must undergo background check by Indian authorities to ensure that they are not a pedophile. This is common sense actually given all the pedophilia coming from UK.

BBC itself, funded by the state (indirectly by public) never should have cared to let anything of such nature within, nor cared to not report such cases. link
There seems to be culture of silence or even protection of accused. link


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