Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 30 Mar 2015 18:27

Bishop names late Tory MP Enoch Powell in child sex abuse, satanic worship scandal

March 30, 2015

Allegations of satanic worship and child abuse involving the late firebrand Tory MP Enoch Powell have been handed to staff investigating the VIP pedophile sex ring alleged to have operated in Westminster in the 1980s.

Powell, who died in 1998, is one of a series of high-profile figures named in a Church of England (CofE) review into historic sex abuse, which was given to Scotland Yard by the Bishop of Durham Paul Butler.

The claims are reported to involve the abuse of children, as well as satanic rituals.

On Sunday evening the CofE confirmed the names of both Enoch Powell and Leo Abse – an eccentric Welsh MP who died in 2008 – had been given to detectives of Operation Fernbridge, the police investigation into the Westminster sex ring.

Butler, who is leading the Church’s review into sex abuse, said he was given the names by the former Bishop of Monmouth, Dominic Walker, who became aware of the allegations when he was working as a counselor in the 1980s.

Walker said Abse’s name was given to him by three survivors of abuse during counseling sessions. He further gave the investigation the names of two former Tory cabinet ministers, neither of whom had been previously linked to the investigation.

Read moreBolsover is not Britain’s Satanic capital, says Church of Satan

Butler questioned Walker after discovering descriptions of counseling sessions with adult survivors in a book published in 1991.

“A number of survivors independently gave the name of a particular MP being involved,” Walker said. “I don’t believe there was any collusion in their stories.”

“The name Enoch Powell was passed to Operation Fernbridge on the instruction of Bishop Paul Butler,” a Church of England spokesperson said.

The claims against the two former politicians come amid mounting allegations of an elite pedophile ring involving establishment figures, which was allegedly covered up by Special Branch police.

The historical sex abuse inquiry, set up by Home Secretary Theresa May in summer 2014, has been plagued with problems and was dissolved after two of the appointed chairs were forced to stand down.

May announced on March 12 the statutory inquiry would begin once more to determine whether state and non-state institutions have taken seriously their duty of care to protect children from sexual abuse in England and Wales.

In February, the home secretary appointed Justice Lowell Goddard as the new chair.

The Metropolitan Police will be given access to files held on the MPs in the House of Commons archives in order to help their investigation into abusers.

Powell is famous for his career-ending ‘rivers of blood’ speech, warning about the dangers of mass immigration. The rant saw him sacked from the shadow cabinet.

http://rt.com/uk/245157-enoch-powell-satan-worship/

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 30 Mar 2015 18:40

Stooopid . . .And They Know It!

The propagandistic Times of Cesspit London, in a highly subjective propaganda article, has awarded the top dozen places to anglo/amerikan yooniversities based on "reputation" and "prestige".

And if you believe any of that, you'll believe anything. The poodle state did a similar one for restaurants which the French protested about by producing their own list.

In Japan, Finland and the Netherlands, young adults with only a high school degree scored on par with American Millennials holding four-year college degrees, the report said.
. . .
Out of 22 countries, the report from the Educational Testing Service found that Americans were dead last in tech proficiency. We were also dead last in numeracy and only two countries performed worse than us when it came to literacy proficiency…

Half of American Millennials score below the minimum standard of literacy proficiency. Only two countries scored worse by that measure: Italy (60 percent) and Spain (59 percent). The results were even worse for numeracy, with almost two-thirds of American Millennials failing to meet the minimum standard for understanding and working with numbers. That placed U.S. Millennials dead last for numeracy among the study’s 22 developed countries.
. . .
In another previous article I shared some examples of real courses that have been taught at U.S. universities in recent years…

-“What If Harry Potter Is Real?”

-“Lady Gaga and the Sociology of Fame”

-“Philosophy And Star Trek”

-“Learning From YouTube”

-“How To Watch Television”

-“Oh, Look, a Chicken!”
- It's Official: Americans R Stoopid

That's the correct spelling, by the way.

And THIS is the sort of edukashun which the Propagandistic Times of Cesspit London ranked as the best in the World? He also missed courses in "Harrison Ford" and "Underwater Basket Weaving".

Zero Hedge has published a graph of amerikan IQ and it was very similar to the graph in the movie, "Idiocracy", which depicted the dumberest having much more offspring because as everyone knows IQ is largely inherited. Asians have the highest IQ whereas Anglos don't have them. Izraelis score even lower in the PISA test results. So Anglo lekturers are dumberer and they know it (the only thing they DO know) so they help their fellow Anglos cheat, just as their lekturers did for them.

Yooniversity courses in the gangster-run, thieved state of Poodleville (and no doubt the thieved state of Amerika too) are designed to bore you senseless with irrelevant nonsense. The awarding of degrees is then by committee offering the Anglos higher grades despite them being clearly retarded. So they're just as corrupt as the Propagandistic Times and the 2012 Olympics held in "rip-off Britain".

-- by gork (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-893460-75-1.html)

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 31 Mar 2015 13:13

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... -sex-abuse
Katie Hopkins accused of race hate by linking Pakistani men with sex abuse

Katie Hopkins, the Sun columnist and businesswoman, has been reported to the police for possible race hate crimes after being accused by a Labour MP of equating men of Pakistani origin with child abusers.

A complaint from Simon Danczuk, MP for Rochdale, claims that the reality TV star has associated the Pakistani flag with the sexual abuse of minors in a series of Twitter messages.

It follows a prolonged row between Hopkins and Danczuk over his decision to attend the raising of a Pakistani flag over the local town hall to mark National Pakistan Day on 23 March.

She has claimed that it is outrageous to raise the Pakistani flag in Rochdale. In 2012, nine men from the Lancashire town, eight of whom were of Pakistani origin, were jailed for their part in a child sexual exploitation ring.

Danczuk said: “I don’t think we should beat about the bush here, Katie Hopkins is inciting racial hatred.

I don’t think we should beat about the bush here, Katie Hopkins is inciting racial hatred
Simon Danczuk, MP for Rochdale

“Rochdale has a proud history of coming together to mark special days in different cultures, from St Patrick’s Day to the Ukrainian Holodomor, and our town will not take any lessons from Katie Hopkins on community cohesion. She has waded into something she doesn’t understand and her ignorance is extremely dangerous.”

The flag was raised over Rochdale town hall for less than half an hour, according to Danczuk’s aide. Afterwards, the MP posted a photo of himself on Twitter with two men of Pakistani origin at the ceremony.

This infuriated Hopkins, who replied with a photograph of eight of the men convicted for offences connected to child exploitation. Above the image, she wrote: “Are these your friends too ‪@SimonDanczuk? Is this why you are raising the Pakistani flag in Rochdale? 77 years inside.”

Another post, which Danczuk has reported to the police, said: “Your Pakistani friends saw young white girls as fair game when they abused them. Do NOT lecture me on community cohesion fool.”

A further tweet said: “Raising a Pakistani flag in Rochdale is not helping community cohesion. it is inflammatory. ‪@SimonDanczuk you & your party disgust me.”

Danczuk’s office said he sent a complaint to the office of Greater Manchester’s police commissioner, Tony Lloyd, on Sunday.

Since the row began, Danczuk claims to have received threats and a petition has been launched calling for the flag to be taken down. One English Defence League splinter group, which describes itself as the North West Infidels, has asked members to hold a rally in the town on 9 May.

Hopkins, 40, first appeared on television as a contestant on the BBC’s The Apprentice in 2007, but has since made a name for herself as a commentator with her vociferous, and often rightwing, views.

In a column in the Sun on Friday, she returned to the subject of the raising of Pakistan’s flag in Rochdale, and wrote: “I tell you what, Mr Danczuk, let’s chat to the families of the white girls passed around like meat because they were ‘fair game’ and see what they think of your views on community cohesion.”

The father of the main prosecution witness in the child sex grooming scandal has accused Hopkins of stoking racial divisions for her own purposes.

The man, known as Tom, told the Guardian: “Abuse is about criminality, not the nationality of these people. I think it’s abhorrent to link the flag of Pakistan with child abuse. I can’t understand why she has been allowed to get away with these comments.

“She’s trying to exploit what has happened to our family. The town has been cut very deeply. It is not going to heal if people are allowed to write whatever they like without taking responsibility.”

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 31 Mar 2015 14:38

Islam indeed makes infidels as fair game. I really hope this lady is prosecuted. That will be leading the end of multiculturalism in true sense. We may be seeing "neo nazis" in House of Commons soon.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 31 Mar 2015 23:51

TIMES NOW @TimesNow · 6h 6 hours ago

Shocking hate crime video emerges from UK where a Sikh man is attacked in daylight #UKRaceAttack

TIMES NOW @TimesNow · 6h 6 hours ago

A Sikh man reportedly thrashed in a suspected hate crime in Birmingham, UK

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Apr 2015 00:08

chakra wrote:British universities bar hundreds of foreign students from scientific studies

Hundreds of foreign students have been banned from studying science lessons in UK universities on the alleged grounds that they may learn about nuclear warfare, a media report says.

...

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/03/2 ... n-students

An indicator that British do not allow 'multiculturalism' a wild run in sensitive studies, and probably sensitive industries too.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 01 Apr 2015 16:34

vishvak wrote:
chakra wrote:British universities bar hundreds of foreign students from scientific studies

Hundreds of foreign students have been banned from studying science lessons in UK universities on the alleged grounds that they may learn about nuclear warfare, a media report says.

...

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/03/2 ... n-students
An indicator that British do not allow 'multiculturalism' a wild run in sensitive studies, and probably sensitive industries too.

Not a new matter but introduced after tests in 1974 to deny access to any syllabus that may have relationship with 'enhancing Indian capability'. In addition to India the list includes pukistan, Cuba, Syria, North Korea, Libya.........etc.

P.S. Not bad for Press TV, just 41 years late in reporting!

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 01 Apr 2015 19:48

to deny access to any syllabus that may have relationship with 'enhancing Indian capability'

Some news to those who make tall claims of UK as an education hub minus enhancing capability. It also shows the scope of RnD in India, we need to make sensitive industries off usual schemes(reservations, quotas) which no other country seems to do.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 01 Apr 2015 23:45

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rl-13.html
Muslim abuser who 'didn't know' that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail

* Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having sex with the girl
* He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
* He was educated in a madrassa and 'had little experience of women'
* Said he had been taught 'women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground'
* Added he was reluctant to have sex but that he was 'tempted by [the girl]'

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 02 Apr 2015 01:58

UK police arrest officers in pedophile probe

Wed Apr 1, 2015

Police arrest two former officers in continued investigation in to Medomsley children’s prison where 1,123 men say they were abused.

Police arrest two former officers in continued investigation in to Medomsley children’s prison where 1,123 men say they were abused.

UK police have arrested two former officers on suspicion of physical and sexual assaults at a children’s prison in Consett, County Durham, North-East England.

The 69 and 58 year-old men were arrested as part of a long-running investigation in to historic sex abuse at the Medomsley Detention Centre.

The horrific abuse stretches back to the 1970’s and 80’s and victims have had decades long struggles for justice.

Teenage victims have spoken of being raped on and off the prison premises, sometimes being taken to other locations by police officers to be raped by other men.

One victim, Kevin Young says then police officer, Neville Husband would take him to his house, tie him up, blind fold him and then three men would rape him. It was sustained abuse that continued for the next two months. Kevin had been convicted of receiving stolen property; a watch his brother had given him as a present.

On the day of his release, on the 17th June 1977, Young went to Consett Police Station to report what had happened. He was told it was a criminal offence to make such allegations against an officer.

It wasn't until 26 years later, in 2003 that Neville Husband was brought to justice. By then a church minister, he was jailed for eight years; a sentence that was increased in 2005 after new victims came forward.

Husband died in September 2010 shortly after being released from prison. He had raped boys on a daily basis for more than 15 years, while other staff allegedly turned a blind eye.

The media attention on the case led police to launch Operation Seabrook in 2013. Police now say that 1,123 men have contacted them to report they were victims of either sexual or physical assault while imprisoned at Medomsley.

In an explosive development, last year, police revealed there was growing evidence to suggest an organised paedophile ring was operating at the prison.

The latest arrests are in connection to the Operation Seabrook investigation. 16 former employees had been identified by police for questioning. 14 voluntarily attended, but the two in question were arrested.

The two men have now been released on bail. Police say they will be questioning at least a dozen more former employees of the prison.

http://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/04/0 ... hile-probe

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 02 Apr 2015 02:34

Poodleville's Paedophile Perverts

It's bad enough that they've lied, thieved, cheated and war crimed their way through their entire parasite history, contributing nothing.

A toxic mix of misuse of power and official silence has become Britain's shame as the country faces up to a growing web of evidence that the abuse of vulnerable children by powerful men was covered up for decades.
- Britain's shame: Evidence mounts of child-abuse cover-up

What a bunch of sick freaks! This is just as sick as Gitmo. And this was "three decades ago". Both Savile and Cyril Smith were already in the news as paedophiles. Yet they're only just beginning to look at it for a second time. Smith was arrested in 1980 but: He said officers were ordered to hand over notebooks and video footage from their undercover operation, and were told they would be violating the Official Secrets Act if they revealed what had happened. That's the same BS excuse convicted war criminal, Tony Blair, used to cover up BAe's bribing of the Saudi government to protect an arms contract. Plods have claimed that if Smith went before a court he would "open his mouth". Just as Savile and Leon Brittan have just died, Smith died in 2010. Just as Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange and Ed Snowden, the witnesses, are the ones persecuted whilst war criminals such as Kissinger, Blair, Shrub, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Straw, Hoon et al. plus the latest batch of anglo/zionist gangster war criminals make millions, those with evidence live in fear of being prosecuted having done nothing wrong. As with the lying, thieving banksters, a few flies have been charged but not one tiger.

Just as enquiries into voter fraud with the inherently fraudulent postal votes only investigated Asian MPs: Several recent cases in which gangs of men have been convicted of sexually exploiting girls in the care of local authorities have also exposed failures by police and social services. In those cases, the perpetrators were mainly of South Asian origin, and their trials heightened racial tensions in northern towns such as Rochdale and Rotherham.

-- by gork (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-938986-1-1.html)

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 03 Apr 2015 03:09

British values: Real and imagined

Published time: April 02, 2015

David Cameron’s attempts to style himself as the latest incarnation of a long tradition of “British values” of tolerance, democracy and the rule of law is belied by both British history and his own policies. It also plays right into the hands of ISIS.

David Cameron has been at it again. Following the brutal attacks on visitors to the Bardo Museum in Tunisia last month, Cameron took the opportunity to repeat one of the most common and pernicious falsehoods of his premiership – that he is a staunch defender of a set of moral absolutes he calls “British values”. “In the end” he said, “our values – freedom of speech, democracy, the rule of law – ... will win through.” That the Tunis attacks were a direct result of his own fateful decision in 2011 to turn Libya over to a hotchpotch of ultra-sectarian and racist death squads, who then trained the Bardo attackers, was of course conveniently glossed over. But this theme – of Cameron’s dogged pursuance of his British values in the face of an Islamist onslaught – has been trotted out every time any European joins the tens of thousands of Libyan, Nigerian, Malian, Syrian, Algerian, and Iraqi victims of his policy of recruiting sectarian militants as tools of regime change. Thus when Lee Rigby was killed in London by a man (Michael Adebolajo) who had been offered a job by MI5 just weeks earlier, Cameron opined that “the terrorists will never win because they can never beat the values we hold dear, the belief in freedom, in democracy, in free speech, in our British values, Western values.” And when Mohammed Emwazi was granted instant celebrity status by the British media following his YouTube beheadings of journalists and aid workers, Cameron said that Emwazi’s actions were “the very opposite of everything this country stands for,” despite the fact that his own intelligence services headhunted Emwazi to work for them, just as they had facilitated the passage to Syria of the man who most probably trained him.

Cameron’s crucial role in creating and sustaining the death squads he claims to oppose, however, is well known to anyone paying attention to events in the Middle East, and has been written about extensively elsewhere by myself and others. What I want to critique here is Cameron’s claim that democracy, the rule of law and free speech and tolerance are indeed “British values” in any meaningful sense. In fact, these values neither originated in Britain nor have ever been sincerely practiced by British governments.

Take democracy, for example. Even the mainstream textbooks don’t claim that it originated in Britain; Athens is generally supposed to be its birthplace (although there is increasing evidence that the Athenians based it on systems already in place in Africa). Cameron does have an answer for this, of course. In his article for the Daily Mail following the uproar over the mythical ‘Trojan Horse plot’, he writes that “People will say that these values are vital to other people in other countries...But what sets Britain apart are the traditions and history that anchors them and allows them to continue to flourish and develop. Our freedom doesn’t come from thin air. It is rooted in our parliamentary democracy.” What he doesn’t mention is that this particular version of democracy is based on a profound distrust of the people, and was consciously and openly designed to keep them out of decision making as far as possible. Also noteworthy is that the British government has only ever allowed a tiny privileged section of those subject to its power to vote for it – and still does. Only when non-aristocratic owners of business had become fabulously wealthy were they given the vote (in 1832), and when the franchise was extended to workers 35 years later, it was limited to those with the highest wages and living standards. When the universal male franchise was achieved in Britain in 1918, it was of course denied to the tens of millions of colonial subjects (including many Northern Irish Catholics) whose labour and resources were by then creating relatively privileged conditions for those in the ‘motherland’. Even today, British power extends far beyond Britain’s territorial borders, and yet the Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans, Somalis and others who are subject to its greatest abuses have no say in who forms the government. If democracy means that those who are the subjects of power have some influence over who wields it, Britain is still sorely lacking in this regard.

And what of the rule of law? Once again, despite the 800 year existence of the Magna Carta constantly trumpeted by Cameron, when it comes to international affairs, he has treated this apparently sacrosanct British principle with absolute contempt. From his support for Blair’s destruction of Iraq in 2003, to his own blitzkrieg against Libya in 2011, he has been a proud defender of the unprovoked war of aggression – defined by the Nuremberg tribunal, lest we forget, as “not only an international crime; [but] the supreme international crime, differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Even on the domestic front, he has been more than happy to violate the rule of law when it suits him. Thus at the slightest hint of civil unrest in 2011, Cameron’s government instructed magistrates to ignore their own sentencing guidelines and imprison everyone ‘involved’ in the youth insurrection, no matter how slight their offence, throwing judicial independence to the wind in the process. Worse still, every passing week produces more evidence of the apparent collusion between the intelligence services, police, and government ministers in facilitating and covering-up institutional child sex abuse on a horrific scale – and yet Cameron’s government appears to have done everything possible to delay an inquiry into the issue and limit its powers. The rule of law may well be valued in Britain – but it certainly isn’t applied to the higher echelons Cameron represents.

On tolerance and freedom of speech, Britain may seem to fare a little better. But this is only true if we ignore history, foreign policy and Cameron’s own ‘anti-terror’ legislation. Historically, Britain has hardly been a model of toleration. We needn’t go back to King Edward I’s expulsion of the Jews (many of whom sought refuge in the historically much more tolerant Islamic empires) or the anti-Catholic laws (in place until 1829 and only repealed in response to the threat of civil war in Ireland) to find institutionalised discrimination: racialized stop-and-searches have actually increased since the 1999 MacPherson Inquiry’s conclusion that the British police were “institutionally racist.” This is perhaps not surprising, however, given that the British Empire itself was built on intolerance and discrimination, stripping native peoples of political rights and often reducing them to a legal status little different from animals or property. In this regard, the 2012 laws passed by the NATO-installed Libyan government – laws which threaten life imprisonment for supporters of the previous government, and impunity for anyone who kills them - is fully in line with actual historical British practice abroad – but not with some mythical commitment to ”tolerance” and free speech. Back at home, Cameron’s redefinition of extremism to include “non-violent” varieties, combined with draconian new proposals to ensure that all educational institutions rid themselves of all hints of such extremism, are the very antithesis of “freedom of speech,” as commentators of all political stripes have noted.

Perhaps most insidious of all, however, is Cameron’s claim that “The Western model of combining vibrant democracy with free enterprise has delivered great progress and prosperity.” In reality, the “Western model” has not been based on “vibrant democracy,” but precisely on its opposite – on the dispossession of the vast majority of those subject to its power, from the native Americans and African slaves of yesteryear, to the countless millions subject to IMF structural adjustment or NATO bombardment today. But neither has it been based on ”free enterprise.” As scholars such as Ha-Joon Chang have shown in detail, the truth is that every Western nation used massive protectionism during their rise to prosperity. Even today, the strongest industries in the West – from US agribusiness and pharmaceuticals to British finance – are completely dependent on massive government subsidies, demonstrated most clearly in the $15 trillion global bankers’ bailout following the financial crash of 2007-8. Protectionism and colonialism/ neo-colonialism, then, are the real foundation, and continuing basis, of Western prosperity. To ascribe this prosperity to a set of “values” which have never been taken seriously by Britain’s governing elites is not only a falsification of history, but a slander on those whose own dispossession and impoverishment was the flipside of this prosperity. Only by being honest about the role of Britain’s African, Asian and American colonies in creating Britain’s prosperity – and Britain’s role in creating and perpetuating their poverty – can we hope to genuinely build an inclusive society based on mutual respect and understanding for all those who find themselves here “because we were there.”

Britain’s governing elites, then, have consistently undermined the values they claim to espouse - and none more than their greatest advocate, Mr Cameron himself. But this does not make his narrative meaningless. In a sense, this article, by taking his sacred principles at face value and questioning whether the British government lives up to them, is completely missing the point. For the real purpose of the narrative is not, and has never been, to establish a standard which we should aspire to reach. Far from it. The purpose is solely to provide a stick with which to beat Islam. It is not that “we”, as Brits, are actually supposed to practice these “British values” ourselves – the point is rather to provide solid grounds for hating the Islamic societies that are always presented as the greatest transgressors of these values. Don’t get me wrong – Cameron is constantly at pains to point out that “the vast majority of law abiding British Muslims” share these values. But his very language leads us to believe that those Muslims who do share such values do so becauseof their Britishness, and despite their Islam. The danger of this narrative is multiple. Not only does it reinforce ignorant prejudices about Islam’s ‘aversion’ to democracy, the rule of law and tolerance – but it also justifies the rejection of such values by groups such as ISIS. For ISIS are the prime believers in Cameron’s message that such values are “British” and “Western.” And as people who hate Britain and the West and all it has done to the world, they feel duty bound to reject the values it espouses. Yet they forget that Islamic culture has a proud – and much longer – history of practicing them than does the “West” itself. And why do they forget this? Because they believe the distortions of their own history perpetrated by Cameron and his ilk. The more, therefore, that Cameron claims democracy, tolerance and the rule of law to be distinctly British phenomenon – insinuating all the while that they are not indigenous to Islam – the more that angry young Muslims, who have seen their homelands torn apart by Britain, are drawn into the orbit of those militant groups who reject these values. But then, for Cameron, this is all fine. More Muslims joining ISIS means more fighters in his proxy war against Assad – and all without a single soldier returning home in a body bag. This, at least, gets us a little closer to understanding what Cameron really values.

Dan Glazebrook, for RT.

http://rt.com/op-edge/246329-cameron-va ... lims-isis/

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 03 Apr 2015 03:19

British firms could be linked to slavery, murder and ecological abuse overseas – NGO
Published time: April 01, 2015 16:46

Reuters / Adriane Ohanesian

Hundreds of British firms operating abroad may be implicated in severe human rights abuses such as modern slavery, poverty-level wages, beatings, killings and environmental damage, an international NGO warns.

A report released by the Business and Human Rights Resource Centre on Wednesday found that British businesses impact heavily on communities and individuals around the globe.

The NGO’s research suggests UK firms are linked to human rights scandals worldwide, many of which occur in developing nations.

This improper conduct is compounded by “critical weaknesses” in UK regulation that leave victims in foreign states defenseless against firms’ “negligent or reckless” practices, the research found.
Out of sight, out of mind?

The Resource Centre monitors the human rights impacts of more than 6,000 firms in over 180 states. When human rights concerns are raised by civilians, it approaches the firms in question and sounds them out.

Since 2005, the Resource Centre has contacted 303 UK-based firms across the world about allegations of human rights violations.

The NGO’s report says the majority of these allegations center on UK firms’ practices abroad, particularly in the Global South. Its research uncovered “critical weaknesses in UK Government policy and action on business and human rights.”

While firms’ conduct in Britain is regulated, improper practices of UK companies operating abroad regularly “go unpunished,” the NGO said.

Read moreSee no evil, hear no evil? UK building firm linked to Qatari human rights violations

The Resource Centre warned that victims of “corporate abuse” face diminished access to justice in Britain, particularly since the coalition government introduced the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012.

The NGO’s report said UK firms operating within the extractive industry require particularly “urgent attention.”

“Allegations against extractive companies were 47 percent of the total against UK companies,” it said.

“While London has become a global hub for mining and extractive industries, these companies are often implicated in some of the most egregious allegations of human rights abuses, including displacements, killings, and large-scale pollution.”

The NGO probed one such British firm, Glencore, regarding its conduct in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC).

Among the charges leveled at the firm were claims it had contaminated local communities’ water supplies, and was linked to brutal beatings and killings by police.

Glencore insisted it “is committed to upholding human rights,” and refuted allegations that it “manipulates DRC regulation to suit its interests.”

The Resource Centre’s report also uncovered UK firms’ links to allegations of labor rights abuses, particularly within the fashion industry. Allegations of modern slavery also surfaced in its study.

Read moreG4S may have profited from Guantanamo human rights abuses – charity

“UK companies are linked to allegations of labor rights abuses and modern slavery, particularly through complex global supply chains,” the report said.

“Among non-extractive companies, these issues emerged as the key area of concern, particularly for apparel companies.”

“Allegations [also] linked UK companies to forced labor, union busting, poverty wages, and workplace deaths – like the Rana Plaza factory collapse that took the lives of 1,129 workers in 2013,” it added.

The Resource Centre’s report called upon the next government to encourage and compel British companies to respect their staff’s basic human rights, and ensure abuses are met with accountability.

Economic Relations Programme Director Peter Frankental of Amnesty International UK, said the message of the Resource Center’s report is clear.

“When it comes to respecting human rights, businesses need to raise their game and the government needs to hold them accountable when they don't.”

Phil Bloomer, director of the Resource Centre, said UK businesses severely impact upon communities worldwide.

“As a leading economy our companies should be setting the standard for corporate conduct on human rights, not being implicated in everything from poverty wages to beatings and killings,” he said.

“The next government must encourage and push companies to respect human rights and ensure abuses do not go unpunished.”

http://rt.com/uk/245933-human-rights-vi ... -uk-firms/

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 03 Apr 2015 09:19

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 05 Apr 2015 21:17

xpost >>
Some more interesting seecoolar data on UK. Quote wonlee part of the section titles *Religion and society*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_ ... d_politics

The Church of England is represented in the UK Parliament by 26 bishops (the Lords Spiritual) and the British monarch is a member of the church (required under Article 2 of the Treaty of Union) as well as its Supreme Governor.[130] The Lords Spiritual have seats in the House of Lords and debate government policies affecting the whole of the United Kingdom. The Church of England also has the right to draft legislative measures (related to religious administration) through the General Synod that can then be passed into law by Parliament.[131] The Prime Minister, regardless of personal beliefs, plays a key role in the appointment of Church of England bishops, although in July 2007 Gordon Brown proposed reforms of the Prime Minister's ability to affect Church of England appointments.[132]

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 05 Apr 2015 21:18

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 813418.cms
100 school teachers face the sack in UK extremist probe

LONDON: An estimated 100 teachers and teaching assistants in the UK are likely to be sacked from schools after an investigation into their alleged extremist Islamist views.

The UK's National College for Teaching and Leadership (NCTL), the teachers' watchdog which can ban teachers from classrooms, is working on possible disciplinary cases against current and former staff members at schools in Birmingham.

According to the 'The Sunday Times', the schools were the focus of the Trojan Horse scandal, which saw efforts by hardline Islamists to take control of state schools.

The NCTL is reportedly examining 30 cases with an expectation that many more will follow, as many as 100.

Allegations under investigation include claims that an al-Qaeda style video was copied at Park View Academy, one of the schools involved in the Trojan Horse affair, and that teachers punished children by making them kneel on tiles.

More than 50 staff members in schools across Birmingham also allegedly exchanged messages in a WhatsApp group which included homophobic remarks, offensive comments about British soldiers, claims that the murder of soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich, southeast London, was a hoax, and discussion of segregating boys and girls.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 06 Apr 2015 07:13

pankajs wrote:xpost >>
Some more interesting seecoolar data on UK. Quote wonlee part of the section titles *Religion and society*.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_ ... d_politics
The Church of England is represented in the UK Parliament by 26 bishops (the Lords Spiritual) and the British monarch is a member of the church (required under Article 2 of the Treaty of Union) as well as its Supreme Governor.[130] The Lords Spiritual have seats in the House of Lords and debate government policies affecting the whole of the United Kingdom. The Church of England also has the right to draft legislative measures (related to religious administration) through the General Synod that can then be passed into law by Parliament.[131] The Prime Minister, regardless of personal beliefs, plays a key role in the appointment of Church of England bishops, although in July 2007 Gordon Brown proposed reforms of the Prime Minister's ability to affect Church of England appointments.[132]

From a post I made 18 Dec 2011 12:10

"I think this opinion in addition to some others of a similar tone are
mistaken. David Cameroon is just reiterating a fact, the UK is a Christian
state.

Let me give some examples, members of the clergy are GUARANTEED
places and votes in the House of Lords and the Queen in addition of being
'queen' is also the head of the Church Of England. As part of her duties
she is also responsible for the defense of faith.

If you feel that this is unacceptable, wait till you go to Europe where some
countries levy you with a church tax! Although the UK is operationally a
very secular nation it has been and remains a constitutionally Christian
nation. Nothing new here."

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 06 Apr 2015 17:35

Britain invaded 90% of countries in the world

A new study has found that the warmongering British regime has invaded 90 percent of all countries around the globe in its colourful history.

The study contained in a new book entitled, “All the Countries We've Ever Invaded: And the Few We Never Got Round To”, says from among 200 countries in the world only 22 have not experienced an invasion by the British.

Those countries which have remained safe from the British colonial adventurism include nations such as Guatemala, Tajikistan and the Marshall Islands, as well some slightly closer to home, such as Luxembourg.

Stuart Laycock, the author, said he started to carry out research after my 11-year-old son, Frederick, asked me: “how many countries the British had invaded”.

Laycock said that he was shocked by the findings after conducting almost two years of research.

"I was absolutely staggered when I reached the total. I like to think I have a relatively good general knowledge. But there are places where it hadn't occurred to me that these things had ever happened. It shocked me”, said Laycock.

"Other countries could write similar books - but they would be much shorter. I don't think anyone could match this, although the Americans had a later start and have been working hard on it in the twentieth century", he added.

The research lists countries based on their current national boundaries and names. Many of the invasions took place when these did not apply.

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Comment by gork(http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php? ... 4#lastpost):

"Their" Country, Because They Thieved it Fair and Square

A study in 2000 showed that Chinese performed far better in poodle exams. The response by Simon Jenkins, writing in the Guardian, was that Chinese are more intelligent than the Irish; an old racial slur. Here's the shyster once again putting his spin on the deficiencies of the Anglos.

A new study confirms that the people of England are largely of Germanic origin.
But it fails to answer the question of when they really came
. . .
What we do not know is when they came, how they settled and who, if anyone, was there before them.
- Britain is as tribal now as it has been for millennia

In fact, the study showed the eastern half of Poodleville is where the Anglos persist since they invaded in the fifth century. Jenkins implies that the study was meant to reveal when the Anglos arrived but failed to do so, which is a lie. History already knows the answer. All that the study did was show that migration has been minimal over the last 1500 years, the exact opposite of Jenkins' "melting pot". Germans are often referred to as Saxons, or Huns whereas the Anglos are anglo-Saxons. Jenkins is peddling the same lie as Nick Griffin, when he claims an amorphous species to Nick Griffin's claim that Anglos are indigenous, despite clearly being from Saxony.

There was no Anglo-Saxon genocide after the Romans left but a steady westward movement of Germanic peoples, intermarrying with the pre-existing Britons.

That's the BS being inferred by Jenkins. The study made no such claim and couldn't possibly do so. He's clearly trying to cloud the issue. Here he is offering a stupid question rather than an answer: I used to puzzle over the question of what language Boudicca spoke at home. Was she really an “ancient Briton”, speaking some version of Welsh? Or was she a British Saxon, speaking a version of German?

And here's the punch-lineThus the Saxons (who included many Roman mercenaries) may have seen themselves in eastern Britain as merely joining what had long been their kith and kin.

That's as lame as David Goldman's claim that the illegitimate state of New Izrael was the "historic" land of the Jews, contradicting that other propaganda that Palestine was "a land without people, for a people without a land". It doesn't matter how close your neighbour's property is to yours, it still doesn't make it yours.

As well as claiming that Anglos are somehow cousins to Celts due to proximity, Jenkins then also tries to dilute the celtic identity: While it found “no evidence of a general Celtic population in the non-Saxon parts of the UK”, few historians would have expected otherwise.
. . .
Grouping people by “genetic clusters” is obviously dangerous. It yields odious stereotypes and risks damaging the democratic axiom that all humans be treated equal.

Some more equal than others as we know from Poodleville's speciesist apartheid edukashun skam, rigged in favour of "white, working class boys".

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Apr 2015 07:27

UK introduces exit checks:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 831490.cms

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 07 Apr 2015 16:39

Tony Blairitis:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... r-election

Blair said the case for staying in the EU was about more than business or money, but about Britain’s role in the world. Arguing that the two mutually reinforcing pillars of UK foreign policy were Europe and America, he warned that the rise of China, India, Indonesia was resulting in other countries banding together to match the new superpowers in what he described as a global adjustment.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 07 Apr 2015 21:23

A_Gupta wrote:UK introduces exit checks:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 831490.cms

Lol. Last november when me and family landed at London Heathrow, we were asked if we live in the UK by the bean counter. She was not an immigration officer as this was asked later after been through immigration check. I said I am here to seek asylum as I hear Britain is good at giving benefits. She was puzzled. SHQ was looking at me with WTF expression.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 07 Apr 2015 21:44

I think that was to direct you to the appropriate line for immigration control.

I must say I was a bit surprised to see women in the hijab manning the immigration counters and security check points. Good for the Brits.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 09 Apr 2015 10:16

Cameron trying to usurp the moral high ground trumpeting "British values" in the run up to the election has recd, sev. responses,this being one of them,accusing the britis/Cameron of rank hypocrisy.

http://rt.com/op-edge/246329-cameron-va ... lims-isis/
British values: Real and imagined
Published time: April 02, 2015

Xcpt:

On tolerance and freedom of speech, Britain may seem to fare a little better. But this is only true if we ignore history, foreign policy and Cameron’s own ‘anti-terror’ legislation. Historically, Britain has hardly been a model of toleration. We needn’t go back to King Edward I’s expulsion of the Jews (many of whom sought refuge in the historically much more tolerant Islamic empires) or the anti-Catholic laws (in place until 1829 and only repealed in response to the threat of civil war in Ireland) to find institutionalised discrimination: racialized stop-and-searches have actually increased since the 1999 MacPherson Inquiry’s conclusion that the British police were “institutionally racist.” This is perhaps not surprising, however, given that the British Empire itself was built on intolerance and discrimination, stripping native peoples of political rights and often reducing them to a legal status little different from animals or property. In this regard, the 2012 laws passed by the NATO-installed Libyan government – laws which threaten life imprisonment for supporters of the previous government, and impunity for anyone who kills them - is fully in line with actual historical British practice abroad – but not with some mythical commitment to ”tolerance” and free speech. Back at home, Cameron’s redefinition of extremism to include “non-violent” varieties, combined with draconian new proposals to ensure that all educational institutions rid themselves of all hints of such extremism, are the very antithesis of “freedom of speech,” as commentators of all political stripes have noted.

Perhaps most insidious of all, however, is Cameron’s claim that “The Western model of combining vibrant democracy with free enterprise has delivered great progress and prosperity.” In reality, the “Western model” has not been based on “vibrant democracy,” but precisely on its opposite – on the dispossession of the vast majority of those subject to its power, from the native Americans and African slaves of yesteryear, to the countless millions subject to IMF structural adjustment or NATO bombardment today. But neither has it been based on ”free enterprise.” As scholars such as Ha-Joon Chang have shown in detail, the truth is that every Western nation used massive protectionism during their rise to prosperity. Even today, the strongest industries in the West – from US agribusiness and pharmaceuticals to British finance – are completely dependent on massive government subsidies, demonstrated most clearly in the $15 trillion global bankers’ bailout following the financial crash of 2007-8. Protectionism and colonialism/ neo-colonialism, then, are the real foundation, and continuing basis, of Western prosperity. To ascribe this prosperity to a set of “values” which have never been taken seriously by Britain’s governing elites is not only a falsification of history, but a slander on those whose own dispossession and impoverishment was the flipside of this prosperity. Only by being honest about the role of Britain’s African, Asian and American colonies in creating Britain’s prosperity – and Britain’s role in creating and perpetuating their poverty – can we hope to genuinely build an inclusive society based on mutual respect and understanding for all those who find themselves here “because we were there.”

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 10 Apr 2015 17:55

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 64779.html

Christopher Hooton
Thursday 9 April 2015
The Trident programme is grossly expensive, belligerent, archaic and impotent
Instead of renewing the submarines we could fund A&E services for 40 years or build 1.5 million affordable homes

Right now, a Vanguard-class submarine armed with Trident II D-5 ballistic missiles is bumbling along the ocean floor somewhere off Scotland in case of serious international conflict, at which point it probably couldn't even be employed except illegally, contravening a 1996 International Court of Justice ruling.

It is a symbol of pride for the jingoistic. A powerful weapon in an Anglo-American tag-team d*ck-waving contest. Consisting of submarines, missiles and warheads, the programme was even given a Vin Diesel meets Poseidon name, presumably selected from a shortlist that also included 'DEATH SUB' and 'STEP OFF, BRO'.

Any use of Trident would be potentially genocidal and could precipitate a wave of counter-strikes that could threaten the persistence of humanity. It was designed as deterrent of course, but this is a strange notion too. It's reminiscent of a Road Runner and Wile E. Coyote cartoon, in which the coyote points a needlessly-oversized rocket at the eyeballs of the bird - a scene comical to most 8-year-olds, though its absurdity is apparently lost on most UK politicians.

Trident is getting old and needs replacing, the cost of this renewal of peace of mind being somewhere between $20billion (MoD estimate) and £100 billion (Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament estimate). If we focus on the latter, given that the former estimate was based on 2006 prices and curiously hasn't been updated, that is a sum that could fully fund A&E services for 40 years, build 1.5 million affordable homes and cancel tuition fees for four million students.

Despite this, the Conservatives plan to go ahead with the Astute-class nuclear-powered sub replacements, a plan Labour has rather cowardly supported ahead of the election.

Trident is an issue that is often pushed to the side-lines, but when you consider how it is holding back funding and development in areas voters really care about, it is high time we scrapped it and considered less megalomaniacal forms of defence.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 11 Apr 2015 00:28

chakra wrote:Poodleville's Paedophile Perverts

It's bad enough that they've lied, thieved, cheated and war crimed their way through their entire parasite history, contributing nothing.

A toxic mix of misuse of power and official silence has become Britain's shame as the country faces up to a growing web of evidence that the abuse of vulnerable children by powerful men was covered up for decades.
- Britain's shame: Evidence mounts of child-abuse cover-up

What a bunch of sick freaks! This is just as sick as Gitmo. And this was "three decades ago". Both Savile and Cyril Smith were already in the news as paedophiles. Yet they're only just beginning to look at it for a second time. Smith was arrested in 1980 but: He said officers were ordered to hand over notebooks and video footage from their undercover operation, and were told they would be violating the Official Secrets Act if they revealed what had happened. That's the same BS excuse convicted war criminal, Tony Blair, used to cover up BAe's bribing of the Saudi government to protect an arms contract. Plods have claimed that if Smith went before a court he would "open his mouth". Just as Savile and Leon Brittan have just died, Smith died in 2010. Just as Chelsea Manning, Julian Assange and Ed Snowden, the witnesses, are the ones persecuted whilst war criminals such as Kissinger, Blair, Shrub, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Straw, Hoon et al. plus the latest batch of anglo/zionist gangster war criminals make millions, those with evidence live in fear of being prosecuted having done nothing wrong. As with the lying, thieving banksters, a few flies have been charged but not one tiger.

Just as enquiries into voter fraud with the inherently fraudulent postal votes only investigated Asian MPs: Several recent cases in which gangs of men have been convicted of sexually exploiting girls in the care of local authorities have also exposed failures by police and social services. In those cases, the perpetrators were mainly of South Asian origin, and their trials heightened racial tensions in northern towns such as Rochdale and Rotherham.

-- by gork (http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-938986-1-1.html)

They did this to Indian children while in India. Mountbatten was legendary.
Even today a lot of the western run orphanages in India are suspect. There are a couple of street kid orphanages in Kolkata run by dubious Englishmen which pick up kids from the street.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 18 Apr 2015 03:20

Meanwhile the green pakis try to outdo the white ones in their mutual backyard - UKstan...

Here's the link to the story from the londonistan Times
http://t.co/QkKD8vziwX

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 20 Apr 2015 12:43

The coming UK election in May seems heading for a chaotic result,with a coalition govt. almost a certainty.If the SNP do as well as is being touted,major changes to Britain's defence will be demanded by them,in particular,the scra[pping of the Trident SSBN strategic deterrent,which costs Britain $25B a yr. The SNP have unveiled their threat in this report.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... apped.html

Election 2015: SNP prepared to paralyse Armed Forces unless Trident is scrapped

Labour admits it is willing to do a deal with SNP to get Ed Miliband into No 10 as SNP threatens to block defence spending unless it gets its way on Trident

Nicola Sturgeon on the Andrew Marr show April 19, 2015

By Steven Swinford, and Simon Johnson
19 Apr 2015

The SNP is prepared to paralyse Britain's armed forces and shut down government departments if Ed Miliband is Prime Minister, the party's deputy leader has suggested as Labour admitted for the first time that it is willing to do a deal with the nationalists.

Stewart Hosie said the SNP will to block defence spending if Mr Miliband refuses to scrap Trident, raising concerns his party will force a US-style government shutdown.

Senior Conservatives warned that the move would see troops go unpaid, equipment supplies like tanks and body armour delayed and major projects postponed.

• David Cameron: Labour government propped up by SNP is a 'frightening' prospect
• Election 2015: Tories pledge 'Tell Sid' sale of Lloyds Bank shares

While the Conservatives have repeatedly warned of the chaos the SNP would bring to the UK, Mr Hosie's remarks represent the first time his party has suggested it will try to use its clout in Westminster to put its own priorities ahead of the rest of Britain.

Labour accused the SNP of "posturing" and said it did not take the threat seriously.

It came as Angela Eagle, the shadow leader of the Commons, confirmed for the first time that Labour is prepared to speak to the SNP after the election to "try and build a majority" and get Mr Miliband into power.

• Live: All the latest reaction to the SNP 'ransom' threat

David Cameron said that he is "frightened" by the prospect of a Labour government propped up by the SNP and warned spending on hospitals and road projects in England could be slashed as a result.
Later this week he will appear alongside Boris Johnson, the Mayor of London, to warn of the risks posed by the SNP.
Sir John Major, the former Prime Minister, will make a separate speech about the threat posed by the SNP on Tuesday.

Writing in The Telegraph, Mr Johnson warns that Mr Miliband will elevate the SNP to "a position of effective dominance" over Parliament and adds: "You wouldn't get Herod to run a baby farm".

Mr Johnson said: "It would not normally occur to you to interview a convicted jewel thief for the post of custodian of the Tower of London."

Nicola Sturgeon, the SNP leader, will put Mr Miliband and Labour at the heart of her party's manifesto with a series of policies intended for the whole of the UK instead of just Scotland.

She said on Sunday that her party will be in a "very, very strong position" if Mr Miliband is in power as she refused to rule out pushing for another referendum on Scottish independence.

Mr Hosie told the BBC's Daily Politics that if a minority Labour government fails to reach an agreement with the SNP then it will vote against "any bit of spending" that it doesn't agree with, such as the Trident nuclear deterrent.

He said that the SNP could vote against parliamentary estimates, which legalise government spending commitments, in the Commons.

Estimates are normally waved through, but The Telegraph understands senior SNP figures have been in contact with Commons clerks about putting them to a vote.

Mr Hosie said: "If we didn't agree with a bit of spending then of course we could vote against that. I certainly wouldn't be happy if Trident was renewed."

Senior Conservatives compared the threat to government shutdowns in the US,when Congress fails to agree the Budget. Hundreds of thousands of public sector workers are barred from working during the shutdown.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 21 Apr 2015 16:51

I watched the India visit of that great british export topgear. Lord is it insipid, pathetic, lame, words cant express aweful. A poodle would have imagined better.

Good riddance.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 22 Apr 2015 22:05

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... =TOI_AShow

British navy apprehends 12 Indian fishermen near Diego Garcia

member_28638 · Post by **member_28638** » 23 Apr 2015 02:30

England's Sons!

=======================

'Vile and depraved' UK gang raped and abused babies

Members of a paedophile network whose crimes were described as the most "vile and depraved" police had seen have been convicted of arranging abuse.

The UK-wide gang raped and abused babies and young children, streaming the attacks online to fellow members.

...

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-32413502

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Apr 2015 22:17

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXM-ifUMAAFdfU.jpg
UQ election Campaign for Cameroon.

vinod · Post by **vinod** » 05 May 2015 13:12

Sasikala teacher's visa to UK has run into trouble.
She was to attend the first UK Hindu Aikya Vedi's meeting. Some people tried to block the venue by writing to the venue management and then later to UK consulate in Chennai who issued the visa. They were interviewed and is pending investigation which meant delays and also means the organisers had to postpone the event scheduled for 2nd May.

The below article is in Malayalam
http://malayalam.oneindia.com/news./kerala/sasikala-teacher-will-attend-hindu-aikya-vedi-s-program-in-london-report-133490.html

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 05 May 2015 13:59

My Tweet

#UKIndians, Dont vote 4 @UKLabour. We remember how @Ed_Miliband's bro rubbed chili in Indian wounds post #MumbaiAttacks 2008
#ukelection2015

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 05 May 2015 20:13

Lisa wrote: If you feel that this is unacceptable, wait till you go to Europe where some countries levy you with a church tax! Although the UK is operationally a very secular nation it has been and remains a constitutionally Christian nation. Nothing new here."

Lisa ji,
You may be aware of the Chancel Repair Liability? From Wikipedia

Chancel repair liability is a legal obligation on some property owners in England and Wales to pay for certain repairs to the local parish church.

Where people own property within land that was once rectorial (part of a rectory or glebe), they may have unwittingly inherited a responsibility to fund repairs to the chancel of their local medieval-founded Church of England parish church or Church in Wales church. This can still be invoked by the church council of some parishes.[1]

It is currently common practice for purchasers of land to check whether the local parish includes a church where such a liability may apply, and if so to take out chancel liability insurance

As we are buying a property we had to get a solicitor to check this and lo-behold we are obliged to have insurance for this which is not an unsubstantial amount. Somethings never change. Most of the houses in blighty are old and kind of in a dilapidated state. You may be aware that such houses are called 'character houses' some being unlisted and some unlisted. This makes those churches even older and more likely to fall into disrepair making the likelihood of insurance premium going up in the foreseeable future.

I wonder if there is such a law in India related to temples? Or when the GOI takes over the lands of the churches, will they impose a CRL on the buyers?

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 05 May 2015 20:16

RajeshA wrote:My Tweet

#UKIndians, Dont vote 4 @UKLabour. We remember how @Ed_Miliband's bro rubbed chili in Indian wounds post #MumbaiAttacks 2008
#ukelection2015

I am voting UKIP. At least these buggers will force UK to leave Eurozone. It will be happy days onlee.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 05 May 2015 20:22

chakra wrote:England's Sons!

=======================

'Vile and depraved' UK gang raped and abused babies

Members of a paedophile network whose crimes were described as the most "vile and depraved" police had seen have been convicted of arranging abuse.

The UK-wide gang raped and abused babies and young children, streaming the attacks online to fellow members.

...

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-32413502

What a sick society the English have degenerated into! disgusting... Difficult to believe that this society once created giants like Shakespeare and Newton.

LakshO · Post by **LakshO** » 06 May 2015 05:30

RajeshA wrote:My Tweet

#UKIndians, Dont vote 4 @UKLabour. We remember how @Ed_Miliband's bro rubbed chili in Indian wounds post #MumbaiAttacks 2008
#ukelection2015

David Miliband was a pro paki scumbag, for sure, after his comments on Nov 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack. Is Ed Miliband any different from David Miliband? Do any of the posters from Britain know more about this Labour fella's views on pakis, Mumbai terrorist attack etc?

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 06 May 2015 17:09

panduranghari wrote:
Lisa wrote: If you feel that this is unacceptable, wait till you go to Europe where some countries levy you with a church tax! Although the UK is operationally a very secular nation it has been and remains a constitutionally Christian nation. Nothing new here."
Lisa ji,
You may be aware of the Chancel Repair Liability? From Wikipedia

Chancel repair liability is a legal obligation on some property owners in England and Wales to pay for certain repairs to the local parish church.

Where people own property within land that was once rectorial (part of a rectory or glebe), they may have unwittingly inherited a responsibility to fund repairs to the chancel of their local medieval-founded Church of England parish church or Church in Wales church. This can still be invoked by the church council of some parishes.[1]

It is currently common practice for purchasers of land to check whether the local parish includes a church where such a liability may apply, and if so to take out chancel liability insurance
As we are buying a property we had to get a solicitor to check this and lo-behold we are obliged to have insurance for this which is not an unsubstantial amount. Somethings never change. Most of the houses in blighty are old and kind of in a dilapidated state. You may be aware that such houses are called 'character houses' some being unlisted and some unlisted. This makes those churches even older and more likely to fall into disrepair making the likelihood of insurance premium going up in the foreseeable future.

I wonder if there is such a law in India related to temples? Or when the GOI takes over the lands of the churches, will they impose a CRL on the buyers?

Panduranghariji,

Have not read the Wiki article but either way i think you have been misinformed. A law agent charges £20.00 for the necessary search and you can buy a lifetimes insurance, yes a lifetimes insurance for £50.00. Furthermore with the law change of last year any tided property that sells after 2014 automatically disinvests itself of the tie. It is my opinion a tiny one off sum.

As a matter of fact, if I recall, there have been 2 or 3 claims in the last 10 or so years.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 06 May 2015 17:12

Thanks Lisa ji.

Haresh · Post by **Haresh** » 06 May 2015 18:26

LakshO wrote:Do any of the posters from Britain know more about this Labour fella's views on pakis, Mumbai terrorist attack etc?
RajeshA wrote:My Tweet

David Miliband was a pro paki scumbag, for sure, after his comments on Nov 2008 Mumbai terrorist attack. Is Ed Miliband any different from David Miliband? Do any of the posters from Britain know more about this Labour fella's views on pakis, Mumbai terrorist attack etc?

I can help you with that question, I live in London and have been watching this entire Islamophillia addiction of Labour and the Left/liberals for years.

Labour and the left/liberal movement/media are the biggest supporters of islamism in the UK. They know they have a reliable vote bank if they can appease and play the dhimmi to them.

It has always been labour politicians who have played the "Kashmir card", remember Robin Cook? http://www.outlookindia.com/article/rob ... nge/205771

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/win ... y-kashmire

Then you have the infamous "Labour and British moslems, can we dream the same dream" letter in the Moslem newspaper crap.

Then we have this.....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... -read.html

Most Indians in the UK are quite prosperous and are more inclined to the Conservatives. Lavour are reduced to scrapping the barrel for the islamist vote.

It gets worse.......http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/ ... t-he-means