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Postby Philip » 14 Sep 2016 12:17

MPs blame Cameron for Libya collapse and rise of Isis in region
The scathing verdict comes just one day after Mr Cameron’s sudden announcement that he will leave Westminster immediately

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world

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Postby g.sarkar » 15 Sep 2016 03:09

http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur ... 11724.html
The Brexit Bill
Britain's Departure Likely to Cost EU Billions
At a summit in Bratislava this week, the EU wants to set the course for its future without Britain. One important issue is likely to be ignored by European leaders: The fact that Brexit is going to be expensive for Europe, especially for Germany.

By Peter Müller, Christian Reiermann and Christoph Schult
There are times when politics mirrors real life. Nobody knows that better than European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker, a man who makes no secret of the fact that he has a wealth of experience, both privately and professionally.
That's why he has a very concrete idea for how the Europeans should act as Britain departs the European Union. "When your girlfriend leaves you, you shouldn't gaze after her forever," he recently quipped to a group of people close to him. "At some point, it's time to start looking around at other girls."
The Commission chief's analogy, however, overlooks an important point: A relationship is easier to dissolve if the couple hasn't been married. When a decades-long marriage ends, though, the split can get very complicated indeed -- and sometimes it is extremely expensive for one of those involved.
That also applies to the 40-plus year liaison between Britain and the EU. On June 23, a majority of British voted to end their membership in the European Union, a decision that was of global significance. The shock Life Goes On?
When the leaders of the remaining 27 EU members states meet on Friday in the Slovakian capital city of Bratislava to discuss the consequences, the British will no longer be at the table. German Chancellor Angela Merkel is hoping that the meeting will send a message of a new beginning -- in defense and security policy and on job creation measures, particularly for Southern Europe. Life goes on, even without the British: That is the message the summit is to send.
Nevertheless, the coming years will be defined more by the impending divorce than by vague summit memoranda. With Britain's exit, the EU will lose more than just economic and political strength -- it will also see billions of euros disappear from its budget. For Germany, in particular, the economic consequences could be significant.
"Don't ask me to tell you what will be the end of the road," Michel Barnier said last week defensively, adding that the process hasn't even started yet. The former French foreign minister and current EU commissioner is in charge of negotiating with Britain on behalf of the remaining member states and he enjoys the trust of German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Last Wednesday, Barnier spoke publicly for the first time since his appointment as a guest of the Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. The event took place in an upscale automobile museum, with a Triumph Spitfire on display near an Audi Quattro from the 1980s. But if Barnier has his way, this may soon be all that remains of Britain in Brussels' European quarter. "I am waiting to begin. I will be ready tomorrow to negotiate, frankly speaking."
It's going to be a difficult challenge -- that much is a given. Of particular sensitivity will be the question as to whether EU citizens will still have the unrestricted right to live and work in Britain, a key component of the EU internal market. And of course, there is a lot of money at stake.waves that the British vote unleashed through European capitals and Brussels have anything but subsided......
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Postby IndraD » 15 Sep 2016 17:18

British ambassador to Saudi Arabia becomes first senior diplomat to convert to Islam and complete the Haj pilgrimage with Syrian Muslim wife

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4KKANkhJq

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Postby panduranghari » 24 Sep 2016 16:45

Corbyn wins by even bigger margin


654,006 eligible voters

506,438 votes cast

1,042 spoilt votes

JEREMY CORBYN 313,209

OWEN SMITH 193,229

That means Corbyn has a 61.8% vote share (up on last year) and Owen Smith has 38.2%.


Corbyn will win the next election. I have no doubt about it. Labour going back to its roots- hard core marxism. Good days for blighty. Another nail in the coffin.

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Postby Lilo » 25 Sep 2016 20:10

^
I notice Briturd media is claiming high ground that Biturdia doesnt tolerate "racism" in anyform.
There is one small problem though ....
The hate & abuse that pakis & indians mutually have for each other is not fundamentally racist & its actually a hatred for each others religious & political ideologies.

This is a relatively recent trick the briturd elite pulled out from their behind, characterizing previously normal ideologically couched non PC abuse as "racist" abuse.Politically correct abuse however still remains non "racist" though.

So if a white EDL guy abuses a neoconvert white Islamist foaming at mouth for sharia and calls him a "Muzzie pedo" and such - its immediately labelled as "racism".
Yet its not "racism" when a white left liberal abuses a white EDL guy in reverse.

Importantly with respect to desi peoples they are constructing an equal equal b/w traditional(i.e Indians & dogs not allowed) kind of racism of the anglosaxon elite with other forms of ideological/religious or caste/clan based loyalities that indic peoples tend to espouse .

So if any of you brown skinned indians in briturdia publicly(or on interwebs) call out a Paki or his mother for what they are - be ready for howls of "racism" & "off with your head" screeches from the briturd white libtards who are on over watch duty.

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Postby Paul » 25 Sep 2016 20:44

IndraD wrote:British ambassador to Saudi Arabia becomes first senior diplomat to convert to Islam and complete the Haj pilgrimage with Syrian Muslim wife

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4KKANkhJq



Kim Philby's father converted to Wahabi Islam and settled down in SA with his Yemeni Concubine

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Postby svenkat » 26 Sep 2016 20:33

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/marc-anwar-face-police-investigation-8910731

Furious viewers are calling for police to investigate disgraced Coronation Street star Marc Anwar after his ­astonishing racist attack on Indian people.

The Pakistan-born actor – TV’s love cheat Sharif Nazir – branded Indians “b*****ds” and “p**s-drinking c**ts” in a vicious Twitter rant which swiftly cost him his Corrie jo


Baroness Hussein-Ece, a Liberal Democrat and anti-racism campaigner, led criticism of Anwar’s comments.

The vice chair of the All-Party ­Parliamentary Group on Race and Community said: “I understand the ­frustration but it doesn’t justify the kind of language he’s used and blaming all Indians.

“It is one thing to campaign and another to say these kind of things on Twitter.There are atrocious human rights abuses occurring there. People are dying. I’m not for a minute undermining that. But he is a public figure and he’s gone about this in the wrong way.”

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Postby la.khan » 26 Sep 2016 23:20

Gerard wrote:Meanwhile.. In the Islamic Emirate of England, held Scotland, Wales and English Administered Ireland... Paki Officer Culture taking over the Coldstream Guards
Queen’s guards major filmed sniffing powder-like substance off sword while ON DUTY protecting Royals

Captain Alex Ritchie hunched over the sword as he chops up a line of the substance with a plastic card.

Capt Ritchie, 27, then asks Major Coleby, 41: “How much? Two inches? You want two inches of that? If you get rid of that I’ll be mightily impressed.”

Safe to say that Britain is going to pot :wink: :D

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Postby LokeshC » 02 Oct 2016 11:05

In essence this shiturd is saying that they know our priorities better than we do. Lol. Everyone in that studio is high on something.

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Postby svinayak » 02 Oct 2016 22:01

LokeshC wrote:In essence this shiturd is saying that they know our priorities better than we do. Lol. Everyone in that studio is high on something.

This is another way of keeping themselves relavant with India. As India develop they will try to take the credit

But the biggest thing they talk behind Indian back to the rest of the world is that
British developed the infrastructure of India with railways etc. Also they will talk about parliamentary system

Indians need to highlight the oppression and the famines
http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/apps/ ... ird-world-

http://www.thecornerhouse.org.uk/sites/ ... rigins.pdf
Turning Drought into Famine
The staggering death toll – 5.5 million to 12 million died in India despite
modern railways and millions of tons of grain in commercial circulation
– was the foreseeable and avoidable result of deliberate policy choices.
Embittered nationalist writers compared the callous policies followed
by the British in India to those pursued by the British in Ireland in 1846.
The chief difference, as Indian National Congress leader and economic
historian Romesh Dutt pointed out, was that, instead of the one million
Irish dead of 1846-49, “a population equal to the [whole] population of
Ireland had disappeared under the desolating breath of the famine of
1877.”8
Indeed, the semi-arid interior of India was primed for disaster even
before the monsoons failed in 1876. The worst recession in world trade
during the nineteenth century had begun in 1873.9
Characterised by falling
prices for commodities, the economic depression had been spreading
misery and igniting discontent throughout the cotton-exporting districts
of the Deccan where, in any case, forest enclosures and the displacement
of gram (a pulse crop harvested in the spring) by cotton had greatly
reduced local food security (see p.25). In addition, the traditional food
security system, whereby household and village grain reserves were regulated
by complex networks of patrimonial (hereditary) obligation, had
been largely supplanted since the 1857-58 Mutiny10


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Postby JE Menon » 25 Oct 2016 11:46

Tharoor is releasing "An Era of Darkness" about British India

http://www.indialivetoday.com/shashi-th ... 42273.html

Apologies if posted earlier

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Postby LokeshC » 25 Oct 2016 21:19

Never thought I would ever say this:

I am going to buy and read that book by Shri Tharoorji.

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Postby Prem » 26 Oct 2016 04:25

Watch the Brit spit role in raising Viper pit.

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Postby Bart S » 26 Oct 2016 11:15

JE Menon wrote:Tharoor is releasing "An Era of Darkness" about British India

http://www.indialivetoday.com/shashi-th ... 42273.html

Apologies if posted earlier


Seems to be already on sale at Amazon.

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Postby panduranghari » 26 Oct 2016 13:39

Rising intolerance in Britain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10 ... pantheism/

The Roman Catholic Church has banned the scattering of ashes of the dead, insisting that, in some circumstances, those who request it for themselves should even be denied a “Christian funeral”.

Strict new Vatican guidelines forbid a list of increasingly popular means of commemorating loved ones - from scattering ashes at sea to having them turned into jewellery or put in a locket – dismissing them as New Age practices and “pantheism”.

A formal instruction, approved by Pope Francis, even forbids Catholics from keeping ashes in an urn at home, other than in “grave and exceptional cases”.

It also rules out the increasingly common practice of dividing people’s ashes between members of the family.

The document issued by the Vatican’s doctrinal watchdog the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) claims many modern cremation practices increasingly reflect non-Christian ideas about “fusion with Mother Nature”

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Postby arun » 27 Oct 2016 10:26

UK Prime Minister Theresa Mary May answers a question by raised by Mohammadden UK Parliamentarian Yasmin Qureshi with origins in the Terrorist fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, by toeing India’s position that Jammu & Kashmir is strictly a bilateral matter between India and the Islamic Republic and no third party mediation will be permitted.

UK PM also rightly characterizes in the first line of her response that the accusations levelled by Yasmin Qureshi are Qureshi’s own.

Relevant excerpt From Hansard of 26 October 2016 (Clicky):

Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab)

Q10. In Indian-occupied Kashmir over the past three months 150 people have died, 600 have been blinded by the deliberate use of pellet guns, and more than 16,000 injured, many critically. There have been unexplained disappearances and shortages of food and medicine. Will the Prime Minister meet me and cross-party colleagues to discuss the human rights abuses and the issue of self-determination for Kashmiri people, as was set out in the UN resolution in 1948? Will she raise the matter with the Indian Prime Minister?

The Prime Minister

The hon. Lady sets out her case and the issues that she has identified. I take the same view as this Government have taken since they came into power and previously, which is that the issue of Kashmir is a matter for India and Pakistan to deal with and sort out. The Foreign Secretary has heard her representations and I am sure will be interested in taking up those matters with her.

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Postby Philip » 27 Oct 2016 12:56

LItle Britain sabre rattling!Punching above its weight under buffoon Boris who wanted demos outside the Ru embassy...(producing just one protestor!) and the latter-day ,would be ""Mrs.T",a caricature and ersatz version of the genuine article the late Maggie T.

As the article in the Spectator (in the Levant td) said,the demonising and sabre ratttling against Russia is hypocritical and should stop,but that dangerously,British leaders today are believing in their own paltry propaganda and imagine themselves to be Churchills!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... ern-europe
UK deploys hundreds of troops and aircraft to eastern Europe
UK joins biggest post-cold war buildup of Nato forces as Russian military engages in series of high-profile manoeuvres

RAF Typhoons will be part of the Nato forces to be deployed in eastern Europe. Photograph: Ray Troll/BAE Systems
Kevin Rawlinson and Ewen MacAskill
Thursday 27 October 2016
The UK is deploying hundreds of troops, as well as aircraft and armour to eastern Europe as part of the biggest build-up of Nato forces in the region since the cold war. The deployment is taking place during growing tensions over a series of high-profile Russian military manoeuvres.

RAF Typhoon aircraft from RAF Coningsby will be sent to Romania for up to four months, while 800 personnel will be sent with armoured support to Estonia, 150 more than previously planned, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) has said. France and Denmark will also commit more troops, the British government said.

The announcement was made soon after a Russian fleet, believed to be bound to take part in the fighting in Syria, passed close to the British Isles. On Wednesday, Russia withdrew a request to refuel its boats in Spanish territory, as Nato put pressure on Madrid to deny permission.

Russian warships pass through English channel on Friday
Tensions between Nato members and Russia have been heightened since Moscow annexed Crimea in 2014 and Ukraine descended into civil war as a result.

The deployment of British troops to Estonia forms part of a wider Nato commitment to station four new battalions, totalling around 4,000 personnel, on the alliance’s eastern flank.


David Cameron confirmed at Nato’s summit in Warsaw in July that the UK was to send 650 troops to Estonia. As well as announcing the extra 150, the MoD on Wednesday gave further details of the deployment, including the Typhoons, a detachment of drones and Challenger tanks.

The UK defence secretary, Michael Fallon, said the first deployments are expected to begin in May next year. Speaking after a meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels, Fallon said: “Backed by a rising defence budget this deployment of air, land and sea forces shows that we will continue to play a leading role in Nato, supporting the defence and security of our allies from the north to the south of the alliance.”

The RAF Typhoon fighters will be sent to join the Baltic air policing mission to offer reassurance to the Black Sea allies, the MoD said. It will be the first time RAF planes have been dispatched to patrol Romanian airspace.

The moves are intended to underline the alliance’s commitment to the collective defence of all its members – including the Baltic States of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania, which, like Ukraine, have significant Russian-speaking minorities as well as acting as a “trigger” in the event of any aggression.

The US and Canada were also preparing to send forces to eastern Europe.

Barack Obama announced earlier this year that the US was deploying a “battle-ready” task-force of about 900 soldiers :rotfl: to Poland, as well as armour across eastern Europe. The country was also preparing to send troops to Norway for the first time.

Canada and Italy were reported to be sending troops to Latvia, while hundreds of German forces were said to be due to move to Lithuania. Belgium, Croatia and Luxembourg were also among the countries reported to be ready to commit forces.

“Nato does not seek confrontation with Russia. We don’t want a new cold war and we don’t want a new arms race,” the alliance’s head, Jens Stoltenberg, was quoted as saying. “What Nato does is defensive and it is proportionate.”

He told reporters he was very inspired after a meeting of Nato defence ministers in Brussels because “so many nations made very, very firm and concrete decisions” over their contributions to the four-battalion deployment.

Such commitments were “a transatlantic demonstration of rock solid support for our allies” and the deployment will send an “unmistakable message – Nato stands as one. An attack on one ally will be considered an attack on all,” he said.

The Typhoons will be based at Mihail Kogălniceanu Airbase, Romania, for up to four months in 2017.

The UK deployment is likely to include armoured infantry, equipped with Warrior armoured fighting vehicles and a troop of Challenger 2 main battle tanks.

The US defence secretary, Ash Carter, who was at the Nato meeting in Brussels, said the arrival of US troops in eastern Europe follows the decision taken at the Warsaw summit. “Together, we’re strengthening deterrence here,” he said.

Carter said the United States would also lead a battalion in Poland as part of Nato’s enhanced forward presence.

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Postby vinod » 03 Nov 2016 19:33

Brexit court defeat for UK government
Parliament must vote on whether the UK can start the process of leaving the EU, the High Court has ruled.

This means the government cannot trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty - beginning formal exit negotiations with the EU - on its own.

Theresa May says the referendum - and existing ministerial powers - mean MPs do not need to vote, but campaigners called this unconstitutional.

The government is appealing, with a further hearing expected next month.

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Postby IndraD » 03 Nov 2016 23:32

Re HC ordering MPs vote on Brexit in parliament :
This is complete humiliation of Brexit voters, who were dreaming of kicking immigrants from Europe in a&&.
On a serious note it indicates judiciary taking over executive in UK. Now a serious show down awaits in Supreme Court.
This also means judges belong to typical left liberal cabal in UK.
One of three judges who blocked Brexit has uncanny resemblance to Prem Chopra :mrgreen:

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Postby panduranghari » 04 Nov 2016 10:57

Haresh ji,

Just because I dislike Britain, I will keep voting labour. I know they are Islamist and Islam apologist. Ultimately, Britain deserves its comeuppance.

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Postby JTull » 04 Nov 2016 20:34

panduranghari wrote:Haresh ji,

Just because I dislike Britain, I will keep voting labour. I know they are Islamist and Islam apologist. Ultimately, Britain deserves its comeuppance.


I don't see relevance of this to Brexit.

Allowing unlimited immigration from Easter Europe has been a disaster. The pressure this lot has put on local roads, hospitals, schools, besides the job market in middle-England is causing misery to many. Also unfair to countless desis who'd like their qualified siblings and elderly parents to join them. Voting for Labour works fine for benefit seekers but not for tax-payers. It is the second generation desis who have stayed faithful to Labour but, then, their poster boys like 'Vaseline' Vaz aren't worth the loyalty,

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Postby panduranghari » 05 Nov 2016 22:03

Anything that screws up Britain is good for India. Ergo do the best to make their ruin possible. I am but a small person and voting is the only thing that I can do. While I have lots of friends here, their deep state was, is and will always be inimical to India and its sovereignty.

I have no loyalty to Britain. My allegiance is only to India and will always be. Me and my family still retain Indian passport even after being here for over 15 years. Its just my way to show my allegiance. For some these gestures are tokenism.

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Postby Rana S » 05 Nov 2016 23:06

Will India dash UK trade deal hopes?

This Justin Rowlat dude is based in India for a while on assignment - saw him doing lots of programmes including drinking chai from chaialla and giving thumps up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-37872792
quote from piece
"The Indian Finance Minister, Arun Jaitley, was already talking of co-operation and future partnerships when I interviewed him on Thursday.
But do not be deceived by the diplomatic dance.
Diwali, the festival of lights - India's great seasonal celebration of optimism and hope - has just finished."

All the people who meet him, some high profile one too, in India treat him with utmost respect as a visiting white saab. He kind of behaves as if he half expects this but always humble on camera.

Well the message is watch out the brown skins aginst the flattery that these people are capable of and then they write this piece.

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Postby svinayak » 06 Nov 2016 01:53



Indians have to protest if the UK Parliament is used for raking up Kashmir and Indian state boundary

UK Parliament has no right to discuss and allow any debate on Kashmir when they are not even in the region!


The wooing of the Sunni Muslims is part of the global change UK/USA is looking to in the Islamic states
In the cold war they gave state support to these regimes. They supported the state sponser of jihad terrorism of sunni political states such as Pakistan.

Now they will remove the state support to these regime and give people support to the Muslims of these countries. Need to see of the west also removes the support to terrorists for their larger geo political goals. ISIS is one example which does not show hope.

West hope to see social change in the muslim communites and liberal attitudes of the muslims towards non-muslims
Indian have to see if UK?USA will stick to their policy. Need to check US policy will make it to the end.

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Postby Philip » 07 Nov 2016 18:38

To be quite honest,Britain has in the last couple of decades squandered much of its goodwill in India for a variety of reasons. Firstly,Britain today is a second rate power-never mind the number of nukes it has, "LIttle Britain" is the mantra of the moment as Brexit and the spectre of another Scottish Independence referendum ( which would be hugely successful this time round ) threatens to dismember Britain "as we knows it" With much of its manufacturing missing,esp. in the shipbuilding sector,other nations are moving fast to take up the slack that Britain has ceded. The main attraction of Britain these days ,apart from the PLeague,is the large no. of Indian NRIs ,batting for India as is their patriotic wont.
With British industyry in the doldrums,there is little that India would want from it,except more tourists!

A few years ago the then Br. HC on his cross-country pilgrimage confided to select citizens of key cities that he visited,that the UK planned a few more trade centres in Tier-2 cities that other than issuing visas would serve as a mini-consulate.This would enable locals to obtain ed. seats,promote trade,etc. faster.Since then nothing has happened.One birdy said that the GOI was not to keen to have these extra "ersatz" missions batting for Britain in key states/cities. Indo-British ties may be strong tx to the diaspora and Anglophiles in large number here,but in eco,mil-strat terms it has seen a sharp decline in recent years. The reasons are several.Firstly,it is now Asia's turn to be the global eco generator.Britain is no longer an empire,neither is it a powerful pseudo-empire through the colonial club called the commonwealth, and with its own internal turmoil over Scottish independence,Brexit,etc.,is a fast fading star in the global firmament,despite Andy Murray's heroics on the tennis courts! True there is much to admire in Britian,but much belongs to the past. As its manufacturing prowess collapsed,there are fewer items of British make in our homes today and the EPL is its most successful export!

Mrs T (Theresa not Thatcher) is a poor caricature of the late Mrs. T who was Mrs.G's only rival as a world leader in the '70s and '80s. Mrs.G had her Bangladesh victory and Mrs.T had her Falklands victory in the '80s. Have a hart for poor Mrs.May (day) today.She comes across as a desperate figure trying to revive a relationship whose embers died out a century ago. What is left to relight? But for the huge Indian diaspora in the UK, the subcontinent has been looking far more eastwards towards China,Japan and ASEAN than the EU and Scotland and its whisky is more popular than warn British beer.Should Scotland achieve independence,I predict a more fruitful relationship with the Scots than the English.I'm afraid that Mrs.May's best efforts to sell us the Euro-Farter will amount to nothing.There is no fixer in her entourage like Mark Thatcher and the keen competition between the US,Russians,French and the Israelis has left poor Britain an "also ran" in the milware stakes.Besides,what does Britain make independently these days?
Even its N-subs carry US Trident missiles and a host of US and EU components and tech.Brexit has seen an approx 20% fall in the value of the pound. Tourists and students to the UK will benefit.Jags and LRover products in any case are now Indian belonging to Tatas.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02511.html
Theresa May says India has to 'take back' its nationals from Britain before it is given more visas
On her visit to India, the Prime Minister insists on a deal before any relaxation of Britain’s visa restrictions - despite warnings of a threat to a post-Brexit trade deal.

Rob Merrick Deputy Political Editor
British Prime Minister Theresa May and India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi Getty
India must take back more of its nationals who have overstayed in Britain before it will be offered any more visas, Theresa May has said.

On her visit to India, the Prime Minister stuck to her a tough line on the vexed issue of Britain’s visa restrictions, despite warnings it will threaten hopes of a post-Brexit trade deal.

In a 90-minute private discussion, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi pressed her to liberalise the system, after Indian government sources said it wanted Britain to be "responsive".


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Theresa May's attack on students could damage post-Brexit trade deal
India blames visa changes, introduced by Ms May as Home Secretary to prevent students from working in Britain after graduation, for a decline from 40,000 to 20,000 in young Indians enrolling in UK universities.

But, following talks at Hyderabad House in New Delhi – the centrepiece of her three-day trade mission to the country – the Prime Minister refused to budge without action by India in return.

Ms May said: “The UK will consider further improvements to our visa offer if, at the same time, we can step up the speed and volume of returns of Indians with no right to remain in the UK.

“And the UK will continue to welcome the brightest and best Indian students, with the latest figures showing that nine out of 10 applications are granted.”

Britain is ready to consider changes such as cutting the cost of visas, speeding up the process or increasing the number of locations where applications can be submitted.

However, aides stressed the offer did not include any relaxation of eligibility criteria - and no estimates are being made of the number of extra visitors that might result.

Plans were also announced for the London listing of a second wave of Indian rupee-denominated "masala bonds" - a "vote of confidence" in the UK financial services sector, Ms May said.

The announcement comes after the issuing of more than £900 million worth of masala bonds in London since the successful launch, in July, of the world's first Indian offshore bond in the City.

The four new rupee-denominated bonds, worth around £600 million, are expected to be listed in London within the next three months, with the aim of raising finance for investments in India's highway, rail and energy infrastructure.

Officials expect a global offshore masala bond market, with bonds issued by Indian government-backed corporates, to be worth around £81 billion by 2020.

The Prime Minister added: “This is another vote of confidence in our world-leading financial services and further proof that Britain is open for business.

“Alongside this, the UK has agreed to invest £120 million in a joint fund that will lever private sector investment from the City of London to finance Indian infrastructure.”

Brexit supporters have championed India and other Commonwealth countries as the obvious target for Britain as it seeks to boost trade after leaving the European Union.

But Vince Cable, the former Liberal Democrat Business Secretary said it was Ms May’s refusal to relax immigration rules which “screwed up” efforts to forge a trade deal with India during the Coalition.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Lilo » 08 Dec 2016 11:02

Some local news.
Asian Indian origin UKIP Member Racially Abused on Twitter for Saying Britain is a Christian Country

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12 ... n-country/

The apart from the pakis & leftists targeting him on twitter as seen in the screenshots, comments on brietbart are revealing on the "western values" vs "white supremacy" churning in the alt-rightosphere.
They also reveal an increasingly common understanding on Islam with indics.

I used ctrl+f and punched india/hindu to scan them.

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Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2016 23:15

Seeta Kaur was a British woman who died abroad in suspicious circumstances. Why isn't anyone investigating?
It's a fundamental duty of any state to look after its citizens. When a British person dies abroad under suspicious circumstances, we'd expect the British state to ask why. Where local authorities fail or refuse to investigate, we'd expect it to do so itself. That's how it's supposed to work, right? Well, not always.It's in that context that Southall Black Sisters, a human rights group for minority women (of which I am a member), has launched a campaign for justice in the case of Seeta Kaur, whose death in suspicious circumstances in Haryana, India in March 2015 has not been adequately investigated by the British authorities.

British authorities, in the past have also be accused of "negligence" when it comes to investigating deaths of their ethnic nationals or those who have landed themselves in trouble in their birth countries; on the other hand, the British Govt was very prompt in providing "consular help" to the Paki origin British triple/ MI-5 agent Ahmed Saeed Sheikh , when he was forced to be put in jail , at the pressure of the American authorities , for his involvement in the murder of Daniel Pearl , the WSJ correspondent !

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Postby IndraD » 09 Dec 2016 23:22

T May says selling arms to Saudi keeps streets of Britain safe

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 30836.html

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Postby Lalmohan » 09 Dec 2016 23:32

what she means to say is "selling arms to the Saudis is a good way for us to make money" (shut up boris!!)

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Postby IndraD » 10 Dec 2016 00:08

UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia 'worth £5.6bn under David Cameron' (nothing compared to what Obama has sold to Saudi >100 billion dollars of arms)

Campaign Against Arms Trade claims the UK has sold weapons to 24 'countries of humanitarian concern' since May 2010

Other major beneficiaries who feature on the Government’s list of countries of concern are China, Pakistan and Afghanistan, sealing deals worth £131m, £117m and £49m respectively.

A number of other British arms-trading partners with controversial rights records do not make it onto the official list of concern. Oman, has been licenced to pump £948m into British arms companies since Cameron came to power. Meanwhile, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain have entered into deals worth £338m and £37m respectively.

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Postby Lisa » 10 Dec 2016 02:42

Philip wrote:To be quite honest,Britain has in the last couple of decades squandered much of its goodwill in India for a variety of reasons. Firstly,Britain today is a second rate power-never mind the number of nukes it has, "LIttle Britain" is the mantra of the moment as Brexit and the spectre of another Scottish Independence referendum ( which would be hugely successful this time round ) threatens to dismember Britain "as we knows it" With much of its manufacturing missing,esp. in the shipbuilding sector,other nations are moving fast to take up the slack that Britain has ceded. The main attraction of Britain these days ,apart from the PLeague,is the large no. of Indian NRIs ,batting for India as is their patriotic wont.
With British industyry in the doldrums,there is little that India would want from it,except more tourists!

A few years ago the then Br. HC on his cross-country pilgrimage confided to select citizens of key cities that he visited,that the UK planned a few more trade centres in Tier-2 cities that other than issuing visas would serve as a mini-consulate.This would enable locals to obtain ed. seats,promote trade,etc. faster.Since then nothing has happened.One birdy said that the GOI was not to keen to have these extra "ersatz" missions batting for Britain in key states/cities. Indo-British ties may be strong tx to the diaspora and Anglophiles in large number here,but in eco,mil-strat terms it has seen a sharp decline in recent years. The reasons are several.Firstly,it is now Asia's turn to be the global eco generator.Britain is no longer an empire,neither is it a powerful pseudo-empire through the colonial club called the commonwealth, and with its own internal turmoil over Scottish independence,Brexit,etc.,is a fast fading star in the global firmament,despite Andy Murray's heroics on the tennis courts! True there is much to admire in Britian,but much belongs to the past. As its manufacturing prowess collapsed,there are fewer items of British make in our homes today and the EPL is its most successful export!

Mrs T (Theresa not Thatcher) is a poor caricature of the late Mrs. T who was Mrs.G's only rival as a world leader in the '70s and '80s. Mrs.G had her Bangladesh victory and Mrs.T had her Falklands victory in the '80s. Have a hart for poor Mrs.May (day) today.She comes across as a desperate figure trying to revive a relationship whose embers died out a century ago. What is left to relight? But for the huge Indian diaspora in the UK, the subcontinent has been looking far more eastwards towards China,Japan and ASEAN than the EU and Scotland and its whisky is more popular than warn British beer.Should Scotland achieve independence,I predict a more fruitful relationship with the Scots than the English.I'm afraid that Mrs.May's best efforts to sell us the Euro-Farter will amount to nothing.There is no fixer in her entourage like Mark Thatcher and the keen competition between the US,Russians,French and the Israelis has left poor Britain an "also ran" in the milware stakes.Besides,what does Britain make independently these days?
Even its N-subs carry US Trident missiles and a host of US and EU components and tech.Brexit has seen an approx 20% fall in the value of the pound. Tourists and students to the UK will benefit.Jags and LRover products in any case are now Indian belonging to Tatas.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02511.html
Theresa May says India has to 'take back' its nationals from Britain before it is given more visas
On her visit to India, the Prime Minister insists on a deal before any relaxation of Britain’s visa restrictions - despite warnings of a threat to a post-Brexit trade deal.

Rob Merrick Deputy Political Editor
British Prime Minister Theresa May and India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi Getty
India must take back more of its nationals who have overstayed in Britain before it will be offered any more visas, Theresa May has said.

On her visit to India, the Prime Minister stuck to her a tough line on the vexed issue of Britain’s visa restrictions, despite warnings it will threaten hopes of a post-Brexit trade deal.

In a 90-minute private discussion, India’s Prime Minister Narendra Modi pressed her to liberalise the system, after Indian government sources said it wanted Britain to be "responsive"...................................


In fact the total number of people returned to India between Jan 2008 and June 2013, ie almost 6 years was just under 9000. Make what you wish of the UK government's intentions and their foundations in the actual reality. For this number,1500 a year, they actually think that India should buckle. Nothing wrong in having dreams.

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Postby amritk » 10 Dec 2016 06:22

Philip wrote:To be quite honest,Britain has in the last couple of decades squandered much of its goodwill in India for a variety of reasons....


Poetic post.

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Postby ricky_v » 10 Dec 2016 12:24

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/12/09/uk-foreign-aid-spent-on-five-star-hotels-and-chinese-restaurants/
Several large shopping malls in Nigeria, often with accompanying gated communities, and a chain of electronics stores selling iPhones and flat-screen televisions in Egypt.
Daraz, the Pakistani version of Amazon, and an Indian online fashion retailer called Jabong. They have received £32 million between them in direct funding from CDC. how does this corporate funding work?
Restaurant chains in Vietnam, India and Peru and a Chinese budget hotel franchise called 7 Days.
An African e-commerce company which has also been backed by Goldman Sachs, Axa Insurance and other multinationals and an online gaming platform in Singapore which has been valued at $2.5 billion.
Outdoor advertising businesses in Ghana and China and a company that supplies Imax cinema equipment in the Far East.

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Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby LokeshC » 10 Dec 2016 12:35

^^^ Oh wait, wasn't the aid being used by yeeevil indians to launch their Mars Mission?

The audacity of these ungrateful Indians I tell you. It makes my stiff upperlips hurt from frowning.

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Postby Raja Bose » 10 Dec 2016 13:55

LokeshC wrote:^^^ Oh wait, wasn't the aid being used by yeeevil indians to launch their Mars Mission?

The audacity of these ungrateful Indians I tell you. It makes my stiff upperlips hurt from frowning.


and TFTA butt cheeks hurting mightily too. :mrgreen:


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