West Asia News and Discussions (YEMEN, gulf)

[habal]

It's not 'west' that wants ISIS to face Iran, it is Israel that wants ISIS to face Iran. Cutting through propaganda ISIS is managed by Saudi-Qataris-Muslim Brotherhood-Pakistanis on ground with strategic management and overall direction given by Israel. In their previous incarnation the Jabhat Al-Nusra was mainly fighting the Shia power of Asad and Hezbollah. Both threats to Israel.

Now, in it's ISIS avatar, it is being groomed to fight Iran. And massacre as many shias in Iraq as possible.

US-British ie anglo-american job here is to ensure that the ISIS and Israel/Saudi in their over enthusiasm and this new strategic space given to it on a platter doesn't disturb the anglo-american interests or holdouts in the region.

[member_19686]

[UlanBatori]

This whole mess can only have one effective endgame: glazed parking lots replacing Mecca and Riyadh. Seal all the oil wells. Take the huge economic hit, go to hydrogen.

[Manish_Sharma]

I have seen Masai shoot an arrow gently into the neck of a cow and extract some blood to drink in a real emergency. the animal is not usually killed or otherwise harmed as cows have a lot of blood. humans first time am hearing.

They do it regularly.

[Prem]

This whole mess can only have one effective endgame: glazed parking lots replacing Mecca and Riyadh. Seal all the oil wells. Take the huge economic hit, go to hydrogen.

Hydrogen to Kill islamic Hydra. Is this Hydrogen Bomb or fuel to fix the Haramis?

[Pratyush]

^^^

I think he means both.

[habal]

Israel 'field hospital' for ISIS in Golan. Israelis have established a 'field-hospital' for treating ISIS in Golan, & across the border the territory is occupied by ISIS.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-allows ... an-border/

amidst the chutzpah, something like this filters through

Firas, a rebel fighter who was being treated at the hospital at the time of filming, blasted Syrian President Bashar Assad’s government for neglecting and oppressing the people of Syria.

while Iranian say this hospital exists only for treating militants and give a photo of an al-qaeda member being treated as evidence

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.as ... 1113001187

These groups have treated over 700 of its injured militants in that hospital, according to Israeli media outlets, Al-Manar reported.

The Zionist regime's army prevented the media outlets from broadcasting the activities of the field hospital yet allowed the Second Channel to prepare a report about it in order to promote the "humane Israeli step towards the Syrians."

The report mainly focused on the Israeli intentions behind treating the militants, clarifying that the Israelis aim at strengthen and deepen their relations with the terrorist groups in Syria in order to keep the calm and stability which now prevails between these groups and Israel at Palestinian-Syrian borders.

The report also included interviews with a number of the militants who stated that "Zionism is not macabre as it has been portrayed by the Syrian regime."

"The regime used to force us to believe that our enemy is all the surrounding world, yet after the beginning of the revolution, we recognized our real friends and real enemies."

another

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts ... ls_wounded

Israel is quietly cultivating ties with moderate Syrian rebel groups (so moderate ISIS is not anti-Israel) operating along the country's U.N.-monitored cease-fire line with Syria, providing medical care and other unidentified supplies to the insurgents while potentially extracting a valuable vein of intelligence on the activities of President Bashar al-Assad's army as well as extremist opposition forces within Syria.
In the past three months, battle-hardened Syrian rebels have transported scores of wounded Syrians across a cease-fire line that has separated Israel from Syria since 1974, according to a 15-page report by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the work of the U.N. Disengagement Observer Force (UNDOF). Once in Israel, they receive medical treatment in a field clinic before being sent back to Syria, where, presumably, some will return to carry on the fight.

Syrian ambassador to UN says that Golan is used by Israel to transfer militants trained in Jordan into Syria

Syria’s ambassador to the UN says Israel allows the free flow of weapons and ISIL militants into the occupied Golan Heights and then into the rest of Syria.

Bashar Ja’afari told Press TV on Friday that the ISIL Takfiri terrorists have an undeclared alliance with Israel and are engaged in a secret agreement with the regime.

The Israelis help the Takfiris infiltrate into the separation line on the Golan Heights from Jordan, where their training camps are located, the Syrian diplomat said.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/08/1 ... ian-envoy/

[abhik]

This whole mess can only have one effective endgame: glazed parking lots replacing Mecca and Riyadh. Seal all the oil wells. Take the huge economic hit, go to hydrogen.

Hydrogen to Kill islamic Hydra. Is this Hydrogen Bomb or fuel to fix the Haramis?

One would need both. To contain the jihadi problem in india it is of utmost importance that the Gulf states are destroyed/destabilized. Unfortunately due to our oil dependence on these countries and instability will severely affect us.

[TSJones]

Hydrogen to Kill islamic Hydra. Is this Hydrogen Bomb or fuel to fix the Haramis?

One would need both. To contain the jihadi problem in india it is of utmost importance that the Gulf states are destroyed/destabilized. Unfortunately due to our oil dependence on these countries and instability will severely affect us.

India's trade figures with the gulf states are huge. It would be like cutting your right arm off.

[Virupaksha]

One would need both. To contain the jihadi problem in india it is of utmost importance that the Gulf states are destroyed/destabilized. Unfortunately due to our oil dependence on these countries and instability will severely affect us.

India's trade figures with the gulf states are huge. It would be like cutting your right arm off.

take out oil & their importance reduces a lot. India -soudi non oil trade is around 8B$ whereas 35B$ is oil trade. In the scheme of things , only oil trade is important.

Remove oil and Saudi will revert to its historical role as a carpet beggar at indian kings court.

uae has the larger non oil trade but it mostly acts as a replaceable trading hub.

[Singha]

Yazidi women seem more beautiful than typical iraqi women...more in the mould of lebanese and iranian looks.

no wonder the foreign terrorists camped there all wanted a yazidi woman for himself.

another feather in the cap for true islam.

[deejay]

While Hydrogen may take time to happen if ever it happens, we are focusing and need to focus more on Solar and Coal based energy sources. Even ethanol should be explored. (On a lighter note) The transport guys in IAF used to say "If ethanol can do so much for the aircraft, think what it can do for Man". Or was it methanol as in water methanol mixture.

West Asia's real impact is mainly the low end labour from India employed there and of course Oil. Increased focus on Industrial manufacturing, infrastructure and local energy sources will go a long way in solving both issues.

[JE Menon]

^^there's nearly $160 bn in two-way trade with the GCC, and Indians are making money in the non-oil exports to India from GCC too... and it's not mainly low-end labour. Of course, it depends on what you mean by mainly (in cash value, or number of people).

[chetak]

Yazidi women seem more beautiful than typical iraqi women...more in the mould of lebanese and iranian looks.

no wonder the foreign terrorists camped there all wanted a yazidi woman for himself.

another feather in the cap for true islam.

at the reported rate of 10$ a head, wouldn't it be a stampede??

[deejay]

^^there's nearly $160 bn in two-way trade with the GCC, and Indians are making money in the non-oil exports to India from GCC too... and it's not mainly low-end labour. Of course, it depends on what you mean by mainly (in cash value, or number of people).

I was writing about the number of Indians working there, specially those who are low wage workers and finding alternate employments will be a challenge.

About the other losses, well there will be some loss, if there is a shift away from one area in any situation. But energy dependance on West Asia when reduced will give us more latitude in dealing with them.

[UlanBatori]

There is more to this than meets the eye.
They knew exactly which of the 12 vehicles in the convoy to open up and grab the documents. Reading carefully, it looks like the decision on which car to use must have been made just as they left the hotel, so somewhere there should have been a phone call or text message. I think the Oiro250K was a bonus.

Someone doesn't like the ISILS?

[TSJones]

There is more to this than meets the eye.
They knew exactly which of the 12 vehicles in the convoy to open up and grab the documents. Reading carefully, it looks like the decision on which car to use must have been made just as they left the hotel, so somewhere there should have been a phone call or text message. I think the Oiro250K was a bonus.

Someone doesn't like the ISILS?

probably Israeli or SAS, the US is not that slick.

[Virupaksha]

There is more to this than meets the eye.
They knew exactly which of the 12 vehicles in the convoy to open up and grab the documents. Reading carefully, it looks like the decision on which car to use must have been made just as they left the hotel, so somewhere there should have been a phone call or text message. I think the Oiro250K was a bonus.

Someone doesn't like the ISILS?

probably Israeli or SAS, the US is not that slick.

nah, good old outsourcing.

[UlanBatori]

Why do ppl even bother with paper "documents" these days? Assuming it's not just a passport and driver's license? My 32GB flash drive is so tiny that I can't find a wire that will go through the loop so I can attach something bigger to keep it from getting lost. That could easily go up the musharraf of the courier and not even be detected. What requires such an authentic ink signature/ gold seal that it has to be taken by courier, with a minimum 11-hour delay (3 hours lead time for the airport, approx 7 hours flight, 1 hr min to be rushed to the Ministry) and all the risk of the airport types spying on it? And it has to be something that provides an immediate advantage to those grabbing it.

It's probably WikiLeaker Assange. Or it is proof that France is helping ISIS. Or maybe the Title Receipts for all the Yazidi wimmen and boys bought by the Prince Sheikh MilkShake and sold in Paris?

[vijaykarthik]

^^ Spying. Electronic spying might answer your question. People are perhaps too scared to just have most important stuff in the electronic nether.
Little wonder that Germany wants to use the good old earlier typewriters to type out really secret docs.

I read another news report about 2 months back about how a famous Chinese company added code, to open ports and siphon off critical data and such, to the device driver of the scanners that they sold. and it was found by pure accident when some security vulnerability company tried to check a few things and found this interesting stuff. Whats more, a small bit of the optimized code for sniffing ports and siphoning data was also added to the patches that the company sent regularly.

[ramana]

http://www.binghamton.edu/fbc/commentaries/index.html

Commentary No. 383, Aug. 15, 2014
"The Caliphate vs. Everyone Else"

In the endless geopolitical realignments of the Middle East, the Caliphate of the Islamic State (formerly ISIS or ISIL) seems to have frightened just about everyone else involved in Middle Eastern politics into a de facto geopolitical alliance. All of a sudden, we find Iran and the United States, the Kurds (both in Syria and Iraq) and Israel, Turkey and Bashar al-Assad's Syrian government, western Europe (Great Britain, France, and Germany) and Russia all pursuing in different ways the same objective: stop the Caliphate from expanding and consolidating itself.

This hasn't yet altered significantly other loci of geopolitical conflicts such as Israel/Palestine and Ukraine, but it is sure to have an impact on them. Of course, all these actors are pursuing middle-term objectives that are quite different. Nonetheless, look at what has happened in just the first half of August.

Nouri al-Malaki has been ousted as Premier of Iraq under the combined pressure of the United States, Iran, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, and the Kurds, primarily because he resisted including a significant role for Sunnis in the Iraqi government. And why was that important? Because, for all these actors, it seemed the only way to undermine the Caliphate from within.

The United States has committed its drones and a new force of circa 1000 Marines and Special Forces to safeguard Yazidis and Iraqi Christians from their slaughter (an operation requiring de facto assistance by Bashar al-Assad), stopping the advance of the Caliphate on Erbil - the Iraqi Kurdish capital, where there is a U.S. consulate and a significant number of other U.S. citizens - and probably other things after a currently ongoing assessment in the field. President Barack Obama refuses to indicate an end date for this operation and therefore almost certainly will have left unfulfilled his signature promise for a total withdrawal from Iraq during his presidency. {:oops: at the comment}

The Turkish government has closed down the open border for anti-Assad forces into Turkey, previously a key element in their Syrian policy. Former Senator Joseph Lieberman, a known hawk and ardent supporter of Israeli policies, has publicly praised Obama for what he has just done, while the Iranians have abstained from criticizing him. The Saudis, who can't seem to decide on their Syrian strategy, have apparently decided that silence and mystery is the best tactic.

So what is next? And who is profiting from this realignment? There appear to be three obvious short-term winners. The first is the Caliphate itself. The re-entry of the United States into the Iraqi military struggle enables the Caliphate to portray itself as the major force defying the devil incarnate, the United States. It will serve to bring many additional recruits, especially from the western world. And one can expect that it will try to engage in hostile activities within the United States as well as western Europe. Of course, this short-term advantage would collapse, were the Caliphate to suffer serious military reverses. But it would take some time for this to occur, if ever. The army of the Caliphate appears still to be the most committed and trained military force in the region.

A second major winner is Bashar al-Assad. The outside support for anti-Assad forces has always been far less than decisive, and it is likely to dry up even further in the short term, as more and more Syrian opponents line up with the Caliphate.

The third major winner is the Kurds, who have consolidated their position within Iraq and improved their relations with the Kurds in Syria. They will now be receiving more arms from western countries and possibly from others, making their military, the peshmerga, into an ever stronger military force.

Are there clear losers? One, I suspect, is the United States. Unless the Caliphate were to crumble in the near future (something that seems most unlikely), this military effort will soon expose once again the limits of U.S. military abilities as well as the inconsistency of their public positions concerning Iraq, Palestine, and Ukraine. And Obama will have lost his biggest claim to geopolitical achievement. The U.S. public supports success, not a quagmire.

And there are at least three groups whose immediate future as winners or losers remains unclear. One is Iran. If the United States and Iran are on the same side both in Iraq and Afghanistan, can the United States refuse to come to some compromise agreement with Iran on the issues of nuclear energy? The Iranian position in this negotiation is at least strengthened.

A second is Hamas. The Israelis are already under heavy international pressure to reformulate their positions concerning Palestine. Will this emphasis on the dangers of the Caliphate serve as additional pressure? Most probably, but the Israelis will stall as long as they can.

The third is Russia. As I write this, the Kiev government is resisting the entry of Russian trucks that the Russians say is a humanitarian mission to aid the trapped and suffering inhabitants of Lugansk, which is surrounded by Ukrainian troops seeking to starve them into surrender. Is this truly different from the efforts of the Caliphate to starve the Yazidis on their mountain top into submission? If the United States and western Europe are in favor of humanitarian aid in one place, can they sustain the position of being against it in the other?

We are living in interesting times.

by Immanuel Wallerstein

[kmkraoind]

Where are left liberals, wait, they may say Muslims are permitted to practice Taqqiya.



Islamic Funeral: I See Dead People ... Move

[JE Menon]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... zidis.html

The above has some interesting notes. Image 6 in particular.

No mention whatsoever of the Indic connection, although the Yazidis say so themselves. Must be a conscious decision by the photographer, editor, etc... to keep any linkage out. Very interesting.

This stuff should be archived.

[arminius]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... zidis.html

The above has some interesting notes. Image 6 in particular.

No mention whatsoever of the Indic connection, although the Yazidis say so themselves. Must be a conscious decision by the photographer, editor, etc... to keep any linkage out. Very interesting.

This stuff should be archived.

That sounds like a line taken from Srimad Bhagavadgita.

[...]Their religion is not just an offshoot of Christianity or Islam. They do not believe in heaven or hell, but in reincarnation, which they describe as the soul "changing its clothes"

[Haresh]

Aafia Siddiqui: the Pakistani female scientist on Isil's list of demands
The demand for the release of a female scientist jailed for attempted murder is aimed at building support for Isil in Pakistan and Afghanistan

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... mands.html

[member_19686]

The Islamic State and the land of lost gods
From the dawn of civilisation, the Fertile Crescent has been a cradle to strange and fascinating sects. Not any more
Tom Holland 23 August 2014

As the fighters of the Islamic State drive from village to captured village in their looted humvees, they criss-cross what in ancient times was a veritable womb of gods. For millennia, the Fertile Crescent teemed with a bewildering variety of cults and religions. Back in the 3rd Christian century, a philosopher by the name of Bardaisan was so overwhelmed by the sheer array of beliefs to be found in Mesopotamia that he invoked it to disprove the doctrines of astrology. ‘It is not the stars that make people behave the way do but rather the diversity of their customs.’

Bardaisan himself was a one-man monument to Mesopotamian multiculturalism. A Jewish convert to Christianity, a Platonist fascinated by the wisdom of the Brahmins, an inhabitant of the border zone between the Roman East and the Iranian empire of the Parthians, he stood at the crossroads where antiquity’s most potent traditions met and intermingled. Just how far the process of blending rival faiths could be taken was best illustrated by a man born in Mesopotamia a few years before Bardaisan’s death: a soi-disant prophet called Mani. Brought up within a Christian sect that practised circumcision, held the Holy Spirit to be female, and prayed in the direction of Jerusalem, he fused elements of Christianity with Jewish and Zoroastrian teachings, while also claiming, just for good measure, to be the heir of the Buddha. Although Mani himself would end up executed by a Persian king, his followers were nothing daunted. Cells of Manichaeans were soon to be found from China to Carthage. Syncretic as their religion was, and global in its ambitions, Manichaeism was a classic Mesopotamian export of the age.

Nevertheless, home of the cutting edge though the Fertile Crescent was throughout the first millennium AD, it simultaneously nurtured traditions of a fabulous antiquity. Priests and astrologers had been active in Mesopotamia since the dawn of civilisation, and they still flourished even as the ziggurats which had once dominated ancient capitals such as Nineveh and Babylon crumbled away into dust. In Harran, a city lying on what is now the frontline between Turkey and the Islamic State, the ancient gods were worshipped well into the Christian era. Sin, the ‘Lord of the Moon’, continued to be paraded every year through the streets and then ferried back to his temple on a barge, while eerie figures framed by peacock feathers stood guard over desert lakes. In a Fertile Crescent increasingly dominated by monotheistic autocrats, first Christian and then Muslim, the Harranians clung stubbornly to their worship of the planets. ‘How empty and impoverished the earth would have been without paganism!’ So one devotee of Sin defiantly declared, even as he worked in the caliphal library in Baghdad. ‘Who was it that settled the world and founded cities, after all, if not the pagans?’

Such bravado, though, in a world governed by the dictates of Islamic imperialism, was given increasingly short shrift. Islam, rather as Manichaeism had done, fused elements drawn from numerous traditions, and granted, in unacknowledged recognition of this, a high-handed tolerance to those religions to which it stood in particular debt. Jews, Christians and a mysterious people named the Sabaeans: all were ranked in the Qur’an as ‘Peoples of the Book’. Devotees of other gods, though, were regarded with a stern disapproval. In the year 830, so it is said, the Caliph al-Mamun visited Harran, and was appalled by what he found. The pagans were told to convert or face death. Most duly became Muslims; but a few, pulling a lawyer’s trick, declared themselves to be none other than the Sabaeans. Only in the 10th century was their final temple destroyed. By the 1120s, when the Spanish traveller ibn Jubayr visited Harran, he could find no trace of the Sabaeans.

To this day, though, across the Fertile Crescent, there remain communities which bear witness to the extraordinary antiquity of its religious traditions. There are the Mandaeans, who hold themselves, as Mani did, to be sparks of a cosmic light, and whose priests, like their Babylonian forebears, are obsessive astrologers. There are the Alawites, who revere Plato as a prophet, believe in reincarnation, and pray towards the sun. There are the Yezidis, whose home of Sinjar still preserves in its name an echo of the ancient Harranian moon god. Like the Harranians, they reverence the planets; and like the Harranians, they hold a special place in their hearts for the peacock. Melek Taus, the angel whom they believe to be God’s lieutenant here in the material world, wears the form of the bird; and back at the beginning of time, when the earth was nothing but pearl, he laid his feathers over it, and gave colour to its forests and mountains and seas.

Various strategies were adopted by these communities to survive the disapproval of their Muslim overlords. All of them kept the precise details of their faiths a secret; and all of them, when faced by bouts of persecution, would retreat to remote and inaccessible fastnesses, whether in marshes or on mountain tops. The Mandaeans, copy-ing the strategy of the Harranians, were able to market themselves as Sabaeans; the Alawites, some of whom believe Ali, Muhammad’s son-in-law, to have been the reincarnation of St Peter, took on a patina of Shi’ism. Even the Yazidis, who proudly keep a list of the 72 persecutions they have survived over the course of the centuries, were sometimes willing, when particularly hard-pressed, to accept a nominal baptism from an amenable bishop.

It is hard to believe, though, that they will survive the 73rd persecution. Their prospects, and those of all the religious minorities of the Fertile Crescent, look grim. Mandaeans, exposed to murder and forced conversions in the wake of Saddam’s overthrow, are now almost extinct in Iraq. The future of the Alawites is bound inseparably to that of their co-religionist, the blood-stained president of Syria, Bashar al-Assad. As for the Yezidis, targeted as they are for extermination by the slave-taking, atrocity-vaunting murderers of the Islamic State, how can they possibly survive in their ancient homeland? Meanwhile, with Iraqi and Syrian Jews now only to be found in Israel, and Christians emigrating from the region in increasing numbers, even the Peoples of the Book are vanishing from the Fertile Crescent.

The risk is that all traces of what once, back in antiquity, made the area the most remarkable melting pot in history will soon have been erased. In cultural terms, it is as though a rainforest is being levelled to provide for cattle-ranching. Not just a crime against humanity, it is a crime against civilisation.

Tom Holland is the author of a history of early Islam, In the Shadow of the Sword, and recently translated Herodotus’ Histories for Penguin.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/929 ... b-of-gods/

On the pagans of Harran:

http://manasataramgini.wordpress.com/20 ... c-science/

[parikh]

The YPG (Syrian Kurds) & PKK (Turkish Kurds) are the only effective force fighting the IS ,having combat experience in Syria and Turkey , Peshmerga (Iraqi Kurds) are bunch of inexperienced fighters used to the good life and ran away in Sinjar , it was YPG who rescued the Yazidis or whatever was left of them.
On a side not YPG & PKK have a lot of Female fighters , reflecting their past communist ideology ,equality between men and women.



https://www.tumblr.com/search/YPG

All the minorities including Christians, Yazidis etc are now fighting under the YPG banner

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/ ... G220140817

Agree with SanjayC , India should get into the game and back these groups covertly with arms , we should having lot of maal captured from the dead pigs in Kashmir.
Either we help finish the IS in Iraq or fight them at our doorstep in the future.

[Singha]

^^ I was about to comment on this yesterday. the Peshmerga seen in western media near irbil and such do not seem to have any look of people who have worked in the field (farmers, herders) or even professional soldiers who spend a lot time in the sun.
I hate to say it but they looked like well educated middle class shop keepers, teachers, doctors and ITvity munnas who had been given a gun and some basic training. probably good enough for sentry duty and scaring away the odd miscreant, but nowhere near capable of fighting a strong defensive battle or mobile war against the hardened cadres of the ISIS. they looked like 100 middle class lads rounded up from streets of delhi or teheran! most also looked overage for military service in a proper army.

I do not know if the peshmerga have more professional units composed of veterans who have fought in turkey and syria. just planeloads of american arms will not be enough to roll back the ISIS even if the kurds decided to help cleanse northern iraq (which they have no stake in)...a hard cadre of maybe 7500 people organized into mobile batallions with american air support is needed.

[rsingh]

Normally this lady does not need gun to kill........but she has to fight hijda animals. The world is very cruel. Wish she has plan B in case of being captured alive.

[JE Menon]

>>Peshmerga (Iraqi Kurds) are bunch of inexperienced fighters used to the good life and ran

I don't know what exactly happened on Sinjar wrt Iraqi Kurdish peshmergas, but they are decidedly not a bunch of inexperienced fighters. On the contrary, they are far more experienced than the Syrians (where the Kurds got into the act significantly only a few years ago). The Iraqi Kurds under Barzani and Talabani have been fighting for decades under Saddam, against his forces, and since then together with coalition forces... In recent years, the Syrian Kurds have picked up no doubt, and maybe they are better at the game now. But the Iraqi peshmergas are not inexperienced, nor are they the type to turn tail.

[Singha]

There are women with that look in Konkan coast across ka and mh, sometimes with grey eyes.quite a few in my office too. Some of brf maharathis night be married into such bloodlines.

[Philip]

Whoah!!! Parikh,that chic stroking her guns should be in HWood or BWood! Do you have her cell number?

Sacre bleu! Look at the gall of the surrender monkey,M.Hollande. 'e blames rosbif and the cowboys for the growth of ISIS.No more visits to Buck House and the White House methinks.'e'll 'ave to cycle to 'is mistress' 'ouse instead!
Hollande suggests UK and US to blame for Islamic State's growth
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/

Bibi N. is having better luck at smiting the leaders of Hamas after the interlude of the ceasefire,but predicts that the war will go on and on and on and on,endlessly,as it has been from his forefathers-King David's time,and the leaders of the world,UN,et al will continue to expel vast quantities of hot air from their nether ends,achieving nothing!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... es-on-gaza
Xcpt:
[quote]Three of Hamas’s most senior military commanders have been killed in pre-dawn air strikes on Rafa in the south of the Gaza Strip.

Hamas announced the deaths of Mohammed Abu Shamalah, Raed Attar and Mohammed Barhoum on Thursday morning. The loss of the military commanders is a serious blow to the organisation.

There was still no definitive word on the fate of Mohammed Deif, Hamas’s top military figure, whose wife and eight-month-old son were killed on Tuesday evening when five one-tonne bombs struck a house in Gaza City.

Israeli military analyists said intelligence indicated Deif was at the house and that it was virtually impossible that anyone could have survived the destructive force of the bombing. A third unidentified person also died in the air strike.

The Israel Defence Forces said it struck 20 targets over Wednesday night and into Thursday morning.

It confirmed it had “eliminated senior Hamas terrorists Raed Attar and Mohamed Abu Shamala” but made no mention of Barhoum.

“Raed Attar played a major role in tunnel infiltrations, terror attacks that killed Israelis, and the kidnapping of [Israeli soldier] Gilad Shalit. Abu Shamala, commander of Hamas forces in [southern] Gaza, was directly involved in dozens of terror attacks, including the murders of IDF soldiers.” the IDF statement said.

As the death toll in Gaza rose well above 2,000 on Wednesday, the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, compared the Hamas movement in Gaza to the Islamic State (Isis), calling the two groups a “branch of the same tree”.

At a press conference on Wednesday night Netanyahu said the Gaza war launched on 8 July “will be a continued campaign” aimed at restoring “calm and safety” to Israeli citizens.

He said the latest bout of Israeli military action in Gaza was “the harshest blow Hamas has taken since its foundation” and warned that if Hamas rocket fire continued Israel would hit back “sevenfold”. “This is a continuous campaign. The struggle against terror lasts for years,” he said.

The defence minister, Moshe Ya’alon, added that Israel “had killed hundreds of Hamas terrorists” and would continue to do so.

The UN security council expressed “grave concern” at the resumption of hostilities and called upon the parties to resume negotiations to urgently reach a “sustainable and lasting ceasefire”.

The 15-member council also “called upon the parties to prevent the situation from escalating and to reach an immediate humanitarian ceasefire”.

Speaking at a press conference in Gaza City, al-Qassam Brigades spokesman Abu Obeida warned of rocket attacks on Ben Gurion airport on Thursday, calling for airlines to suspend flights from 6am.

He told Israelis to avoid public gatherings and warned citizens in the country’s south not to leave bomb shelters.
[quote]

[chanakyaa]

parikhji, the chic is hot. Looking at her, it does not appear that she can handle 9lb AK variant, let along use it or carry 3 at a time.

[Philip]

Boy-o-boy,she looks like she can sure can handle a "gun" anytime!

[member_22539]

Why Teesta Setalvad was trending today on social media

http://deshgujarat.com/2014/08/22/why-t ... ial-media/

At time it feels, majority Hindus of this country have become a lamp post where any dog can come and urinate.

First it was Rahul Gandhi who this week said those going to mandir and calling women as mother and sister are same who abuse women in buses.

Then today Teesta Setalvad, wife of Javed Anand posting a picture today insulting Hindu goddesses and gods in reference to worst Islamic terror organization ISIS.

[govardhanks]

I have question.. are Palestinians shia? or sunni? Why is that other arab countries never support them? or is it like whom ever we don't want they are shia and we do not support them...

[UlanBatori]

On a side not YPG & PKK have a lot of Female fighters

AoA! (never mind..)

[Hitesh]

A criminal complaint needs to be filed against Teesta Setalvad for hurting religious sentiments and attempting to foster or incite communal violence.

[Singha]

after a night when three top leaders were killed by targeted IDF airstrikes, hamas shoots down 18 suspected palestinian moles of the idf.

[ramana]

Philip et al, Avoid sexist remarks. The Kurds are fighting the ISIS for their lives.
Thanks,
ramana