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Postby Austin » 06 Sep 2015 13:20

Anti-ISIS coalition knowingly sponsored violent extremists to ‘isolate’ Assad, rollback ‘Shia expansion’

Pentagon report predicted West’s support for Islamist rebels would create ISIS

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Postby Multatuli » 06 Sep 2015 20:20

Singha wrote:

Aoa indeed you really think one of them will agree to go back after few years if Iraq is declared normal?

many are well fed economic migrants cashing in on a once in generation opportunity


It's not like they, those given asylum, will have a choice. Since the 1980's the Dutch have quietly made laws/regulations concerning refugees more stringent. If the refugee refuses to return to their homeland, than the government will cut off benefits, terminate housing, etc.. And yes, they really do this. The Netherlands is not an easy target country for refugees seeking asylum.

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Postby SwamyG » 06 Sep 2015 20:41

World Vision's donation went up 3 times after showing Ayan's body on the beach.

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Postby Austin » 06 Sep 2015 20:59

Russia Was Right About How to Deal with Syrian Crisis – Finnish President
According to Ahtisaari, Russia had been willing to cooperate with the West since 2012, but the US and the UK were only interested in removing Assad. “Ahtisaari was right,” Niinistö told Nykypäivä ja Verkkouutiset.

He also stated that ending the civil war in Syria would be an important step in dealing with the ongoing migrant crisis in Europe.

“Resolving this issue does not depend on accommodating the refugees, the solution lies elsewhere. Earlier there were hints of possible negotiations between Russia and the US regarding the resolution of the Syrian crisis, and I believe that is a good thing,” said Niinistö.


Meanwhile, President Niinistö urged Finns to show more compassion toward the refugees as several towns in Finland have refused to host reception centers for migrants. "I can’t understand that, when there’s a war somewhere creating a huge distress and refugees, that the refugees should cause a huge commotion in Finland or in Europe," said Niinistö, according to the Finnish broadcaster YLE. "We have to control our attitudes and our feelings, and show that things don’t improve when we cause a bigger fuss."

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Postby Surya » 06 Sep 2015 23:01

the loss of the Emirati, saudi and bahraini troops seem to be from a SS 21 attack on the airbase
AH 64s were also lost


a timely reminder

The IAF really needs to make sure our air bases have ample hardened shelters and enough capable missiles to take on a missile barrage. in the hunt for big ticket items these changes proceed slowly (like the airfield improvments)

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Postby Austin » 06 Sep 2015 23:29

When did SS-21 became so accurate?

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Postby Surya » 07 Sep 2015 00:02

scuds , SS 21s etc all can have their lucky day on exposed targets

apparent video of the launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlEwNRAzCck


a small clip of the aftermath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzV8WZe9fls

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Postby Kati » 07 Sep 2015 00:17

Yemen, Al Saud's underbelly should be kept simmering for a l-o-n-g time. That is a nice way to keep the West's dirty hand in check.

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Postby sanjaykumar » 07 Sep 2015 04:22

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Postby sanjaykumar » 07 Sep 2015 04:24

Hell, even though I am against guns, a Yazidi hero.

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Postby Singha » 07 Sep 2015 07:28

PKK launched a major ambush yesterday against turkish army convoy.

in retaliation turks launch bombing raids on pkk areas.

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Postby Kakkaji » 07 Sep 2015 08:07

OK, so this is how India's new West Asia policy is being crafted.

Posting in full as the details are inrteresting:

Secret trips to West Asia - Doval's visits seek to balance ties with Israel and Iran

New Delhi, Sept. 6: National security adviser Ajit Doval made secret trips to Israel and Iran in late August as part of a diplomatic thrust into West Asia that seeks to balance ties with the two rivals.

Doval visited Israel's biggest nuclear facility, two senior officials independently confirmed to The Telegraph. In Iran, they said, Doval asked about the possibility of India's navy using the Chabahar port on the Gulf of Oman.

In both countries, Doval also discussed key upcoming visits. President Pranab Mukherjee is expected to visit Israel next month, while Prime Minister Narendra Modi may travel to both Israel and Iran within the next one year.

Doval's visits followed Modi's United Arab Emirates trip on August 16-17. They have not been made public because of the sensitive nature of the subjects he took up and the tensions that divide West Asia, the officials said.

But the secret trips underscore India's focus on developing a blueprint for strategic cooperation with West Asia, something foreign secretary S. Jaishankar had first hinted at in July after delivering a lecture in Singapore.

Doval's visits came amid a more public embrace by the Modi government of both Israel and Iran than India has witnessed in recent years, sparked by a growing recognition that some diplomatic balance between the two is critical for New Delhi's West Asia interests.

"You cannot sustain, in the long term, Indian interests in West Asia without maintaining strong relations with both Israel and Iran, and also with the Gulf countries," Talmiz Ahmed, former Indian ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Oman and the UAE, said from Dubai. "Let us reject the notion that India has to pick a side. It does not."


Doval is known to have made secret visits to conflict zones like Iraq for sensitive negotiations aimed at securing the release of trapped Indians, including nurses and workers held captive by the Islamic State. But his trips to Israel and Iran had a different context.

Israel, like India and Pakistan, is a known nuclear power that is not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Unlike India, though, Israel has not separated its civilian and military nuclear facilities -- and it's rare for a country to take a visiting national security adviser to a closely guarded strategic asset like the Negev nuclear facility near Dimona, 35km off the Dead Sea.

Tel Aviv is believed to have started the nuclear reactor in the late 1950s with French assistance, but very little is formally known and confirmed about its nuclear programme.

The airspace above the facility is closed. A Libyan civilian plane was shot down by Israeli troops in 1973, killing 108 passengers, after it refused to change its course.

Doval's visit to the facility points to the deepening strategic trust between India and Israel although officials remain unwilling to confirm explicitly any plans for formal nuclear cooperation.

Dimona is home to the largest Indian-origin population in Israel -- over 7,500 Indian-origin Jews --- and Modi is likely to visit the city when he travels to that country.

In Iran, India had committed in May to investing $200m to develop the Chabahar port. Officially, India wants to use the port only for transit and trade, as a gateway to land-locked Central Asia.

But in meetings with Iranian officials during his visit, Doval discussed the possibility of a more long-term base for the Indian navy, a dramatic proposal that could not have been made on a trip known publicly.


Doval's secret visits followed a meeting between Modi and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani in Ufa, Russia, on the margins of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation summit there in July where they agreed to "significantly upgrade the bilateral relationship". Iranian foreign minister Javad Zarif visited India last month.

Modi also met Israeli Premier Benjamin Netanyahu in New York last September, on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly. Later, on Netanyahu's birthday, Modi wished him publicly on Twitter, calling him his "friend".

Israel's defence minister, Moshe Ya'alon, is expected to make a second trip in one year to India by December. He had also visited in February.

Doval's trips are of a piece with the Modi government's larger West Asia focus in recent months.

In April, New Delhi had led evacuation efforts from war-torn Yemen, pulling out not only 4,600 Indians but also over 1,000 people from 25 other countries. Diplomats here have described the initiative as emblematic of Modi's hopes about a more assertive role in the region.

On July 20, answering questions at a Singapore think tank where he had just delivered a lecture, Jaishankar hinted that the government was preparing a blueprint for West Asia.

"A country like India will set out its own goals for different parts of the world, and we will come up with something for the Middle East as well," Jaishankar had said.

Modi made his first trip to the region last month, visiting the UAE before India hosted the Emirati foreign minister this past week.

Romancing Israel and Iran simultaneously, though, is tricky. Israel has been the most vocal in criticising the US and other global powers for striking a nuclear agreement with Iran, under which sanctions against Tehran may be eased.

But it can be done, Ahmed argued.

"Is it a diplomatic challenge? Yes," the former diplomat said. "Is it impossible? Not at all."

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby sum » 07 Sep 2015 08:20

^^ More than NaMo's workload, im amazed at the sheer workload which Shri.Doval seems to have taken on himself..He seems to be everywhere in India and across the world all the time!

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Postby Prem » 07 Sep 2015 08:43

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/603 ... imir-Putin
Russia starts building AIR BASE in Syria so its pilots can launch airstrikes against Isis

Vladimir Putin has ordered the construction of a huge 1,000 personnel compound deep in the embattled Syrian dictator's heartland in the latest sign of his country's growing meddling in the region. The Russian president has thrown his full support behind the brutal despot, who is one of his key allies, and who George Osborne this week described as "evil".Now US defence officials have revealed that the Russian military has transported enough pre-fabricated military buildings to war-torn Syria to house 1,000 troops. Engineers have also constructed a new air traffic control tower at an airfield near the port city of Latakia, providing the latest evidence that Russian pilots are preparing to carry out sorties in the country.Photographs have also emerged this week which appear to show Russian combat troops fighting Islamic State (ISIS) militants on the ground in Syria.

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Postby Multatuli » 07 Sep 2015 13:25

Qatar deploys 1,000 ground troops to fight in Yemen

Qatari soldiers backed by 200 armoured vehicles and 30 Apache helicopters head to Yemen's Maareb province.

More Qatari troops are reportedly heading into Yemen with the aim of securing the Jawf governorate [File: Getty Images]

Around 1,000 Qatari soldiers have been deployed to Yemen, as part of the Arab coalition's fight against Houthi rebels, Al Jazeera has learned.

An Al Jazeera journalist, reporting from the Saudi-Yemen border, said the troops were backed by more than 200 armoured vehicles and 30 Apache combat helicopters.

The troops are now reportedly heading to Yemen's Maareb province, to join the Saudi-led coalition already fighting in the area.

Al Jazeera has also learned that more Qatari forces are expected, with the aim of securing the Jawf governorate.

The news comes as coalition forces pounded the rebel-held Yemeni capital Sanaa with air strikes on Sunday, following the killing of 60 Gulf soldiers in a rebel missile attack on Friday.

The United Arab Emirates had pledged to quickly avenge its heaviest ever military loss, after 45 of its soldiers were killed in Friday's strike, along with 10 Saudis and five Bahrainis, as well as four Yemeni troops.

"Our revenge shall not take long," Emirati media quoted Abu Dhabi Crown Prince Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed as warning.

"We will press ahead until we purge Yemen of the scum."

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/q ... 20594.html

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Postby vinod » 07 Sep 2015 13:55

kmkraoind wrote:PETER HITCHENS: We won't save refugees by destroying our own country

A nice article, that rebuts bladeing hearts voices who were crying for a dead baby in a beach.

I’ll go further. The use of words such as ‘desperate’ is quite wrong in this case. The child’s family were safe in Turkey. Turkey (for all its many faults) is a member of Nato, officially classified as free and democratic. Many British people actually pay good money to go on holiday to the very beach where the child’s body was washed up.


Not strictly true. Turks are bombarding Kurds. So, to claim they are safe in Turkey and will remain so is untrue. The father made a call, also the mother made a call in spite of her fear of water and not knowing swimming. Now, if they had landed safely in Greece after their 3-mile trip, they would have had a better life. But unfortunately for them, they took the risk and paid the ultimate price!

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Postby Multatuli » 07 Sep 2015 14:08

From the article Jhujar posted right above:

RUSSIA is building an AIR BASE in Syria where it can station fighter pilots and troops to battle Islamic State (Isis) in a desperate bid to prop up the regime of Bashar al-Assad, it emerged today.


The sentence shows where the priority lies for the US/UK and the rest of Europe: it's not the defeat of IS but the downfall of Bashar al-Assad's government. How dare the Russians fight IS? The policies of the west are not only immoral (what do they care about morality, indeed when did they ever care about morality), they are foolish. But I don't mind, because none will escape the fallout.

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Postby Chandragupta » 07 Sep 2015 15:14

Read reports that Austrians and Germans and some other Europeans are showing up with flowers, chocolates, books, water and clothes to greet refugees. Some videos I saw give the impression that people are welcoming their soldiers back from war. On social media front they are tending #refugeeswelcome and what not.

My question is are these Europeans idiots? They do realise that these are Muslims who will never go back, right? I understand the human angle and all and I'm not bereft of humanity either but we also know what these refugees and their descendants will soon do to the welcoming natives. Weren't rohingya Muslims connected with a blast in India?

Is it that the liberal/sickular lobby in Europe is so strong that they have completely hijacked the narrative vis a vis Islam and are painting a very rosy picture?

Ps - not that I'm concerned for the wellbeing of Europeans. The two abrahamics deserve each other.

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Postby Austin » 07 Sep 2015 15:40

Multatuli wrote:
From the article Jhujar posted right above:

RUSSIA is building an AIR BASE in Syria where it can station fighter pilots and troops to battle Islamic State (Isis) in a desperate bid to prop up the regime of Bashar al-Assad, it emerged today.


The sentence shows where the priority lies for the US/UK and the rest of Europe: it's not the defeat of IS but the downfall of Bashar al-Assad's government. How dare the Russians fight IS? The policies of the west are not only immoral (what do they care about morality, indeed when did they ever care about morality), they are foolish. But I don't mind, because none will escape the fallout.


True , Thats what the Finnish President said in the interview I posted here The US and UK are only interested in throwing Assad they have no other policy , its the same thing where they were interested in throwing Gaddafi and Democracy Won sort of statement and today look at Libya.


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Postby Austin » 07 Sep 2015 16:11

Lavrov tells Kerry discussing Russia’s participation in operations in Syria premature
"In the course of the telephone conversation Kerry asked Lavrov for details about Russian assistance to the Syrian government in the struggle with terrorists. The Russian Foreign Minister confirmed that such assistance had been provided on all occasions and continued to be provided at the moment and that Russia had never made a secret of the supplies of military hardware to the Syrian authorities for struggle against terrorists," Zakharova said.

"While discussing ways of stepping up the effectiveness of struggle against international terrorism in the region Lavrov addressed Kerry with a reminder that Moscow had repeatedly urged the international coalition to cooperate with the Syrian authorities under the auspices of the United Nations, because the Syrian army was the most effective force confronting the Islamic State and other terrorists."

"Lavrov drew the US Secretary of State’s attention to a remark by Russian President Vladimir Putin made in Vladivostok to the effect that discussing Russia’s involvement in military operations in Syria was premature for the time being," Zakharova said.

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Postby Austin » 07 Sep 2015 16:55

French newsletter «Intelligence Online» sheds some more details on the missile attack Huthis of Saudi Arabia, as already informed our blog. According to the newsletter, several Western intelligence services have received confirmation that strikes tactical missiles R-17 missiles on the territory of Saudi Arabia, June 6, 2015 were made using information from the Iranian Intelligence and Security Service ("Wewak"). Then the attack was subjected to base "Khamis Mushait." On that day, about 3 o'clock in the morning on the base were fired about 12 missiles R-17.

According to sources newsletter Patriot SAM batteries only three managed to intercept missiles. It was during this operation if died Chief of Staff of the Air Force of Saudi Arabia Mohammad al-Shaalan. This was reported by the Iranian news agency IRNA, although according to the statements of Riyadh, the general died of a heart attack, and he was outside the kingdom. Apparently Iranian advisers Huthis helped organize this large-scale operation.

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Postby Singha » 07 Sep 2015 17:11

it a huge airbase with two runways and a lot of hangars...I figure around 60 fighters could be placed in the hangars and dozens more outside

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Khami ... e9400f9287

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Postby Singha » 07 Sep 2015 17:14

if tochkas could do that much damage, imagine what a bunch of more modern prahaar, shourya and iskander could do?

we need to build inventory asap...nothing less than 5000 of prahaar and shourya. each.

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Postby Multatuli » 07 Sep 2015 17:16

On the Peter Hitchens article posted by kmkraoind:

So the UK helps destroy the country these refugees lived in (we can be sure the UK contributed majorly, that is their specialty, it's what they are). Iraq, Syria, Libya, were middle income countries before the US/UK and other European countries destroyed them. And now the Europeans don't want refugees from those countries because they are different, they are scary Muslims.

Sorry, but no. You (Europe) do not have the right to refuse entry to West Asian and North African refugees. The US/Europe either sort out the mess they created in Iraq, Syria and Libya or they just have to accept the millions of people fleeing those countries.

There is also a more general justification for refugees, economic or otherwise, moving to Europe: Europe has used Africa, Asia and Latin America as fertilizer so Europe could flourish. Europe is 'developed' because they stifled the development of Asia and Africa. Europe is rich because they looted the Africans and other non-white/non-European people. So now those turd worlders want their piece of the pie and I see nothing wrong with that.

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Postby Surya » 07 Sep 2015 18:31

Singha wrote:if tochkas could do that much damage, imagine what a bunch of more modern prahaar, shourya and iskander could do?

we need to build inventory asap...nothing less than 5000 of prahaar and shourya. each.


need to worry about the defense part of it too

the chinese and by extension the pukis have lots of missiles to fling at us

the air bases needs to have ample hardened shelters, well spread out, with redundancy for critical systems and anti missile options to at least have a fighting chance

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Postby ldev » 07 Sep 2015 20:35

Surya wrote:
Singha wrote:if tochkas could do that much damage, imagine what a bunch of more modern prahaar, shourya and iskander could do?

we need to build inventory asap...nothing less than 5000 of prahaar and shourya. each.


need to worry about the defense part of it too

the chinese and by extension the pukis have lots of missiles to fling at us

the air bases needs to have ample hardened shelters, well spread out, with redundancy for critical systems and anti missile options to at least have a fighting chance


King Khalid airbase outside Abha is the main Saudi airforce base from which not only Saudi but other Gulf airforces have launched air sorties over Yemen. The GCC airforces attacking Yemen are based there. This looks like a saturation attack which the Patriots were unable to handle.

Very important lesson for India. Any Chinese attack on India will be multiple times this attack with hundreds of DF-15s, 16s and their land attack cruise missiles CJ-10 attacking Indian airforce bases, known missile locations and ports. What is the Akash system's interception ability against something like a DF-16 I wonder.

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Postby Prem » 08 Sep 2015 04:06

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/midd ... ages-19412
Middle East Faces Water Shortages for the Next 25 Years

Water supplies across the Middle East will deteriorate over 25 years, threatening economic growth and national security and forcing more people to move to already overcrowded cities, a new analysis suggests.As the region, which is home to over 350 million people, begins to recover from a series of deadly heatwaves which have seen temperatures rise to record levels for weeks at a time, the World Resources Institute (WRI) claims water shortages were a key factor in the 2011 Syria civil war.Drought and water shortages in Syria likely contributed to the unrest that stoked the country’s 2011 civil war. Dwindling water resources and chronic mismanagement forced 1.5 million people, primarily farmers and herders, to lose their livelihoods and leave their land, move to urban areas, and magnify Syria’s general destabilisation,” says the report. New WRI rankings place 14 of the world’s 33 most water-stressed countries in the Middle East and north Africa region (Mena), including Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Palestine, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Iran and Lebanon. Companies, farms and residents in these countries are all highly vulnerable to the slightest change in supplies, says the WRI.
“But it’s not clear where all that water will come from. Climate change is expected to make some areas drier and others wetter. As precipitation extremes increase in some regions, affected communities face greater threats from droughts and floods,” they say.Areas of China, India, and the US, including Ningxia province, and the south-west US, could see water stress increase by 40 to 70 percent by 2040 while Chile, Estonia, Namibia and Botswana all face “especially significant” increase in stress, say the WRI authors. “Water supplies are limited, and risk from floods and droughts make Botswana and Namibia particularly vulnerable in southern Africa where projected temperature increases are likely to exceed the global average, along with overall drying and increased rainfall variability.”

The Middle East is already prone to water conflict and is likely to remain so, says the report. “Water is a significant dimension of the decades-old conflict between Palestine and Israel. Saudi Arabia’s government said its people will depend entirely on grain imports by 2016, a change from decades of growing all they need, due to fear of water-resource depletion. The US National Intelligence Council wrote that water problems will put key north African and Middle East countries at greater risk of instability and state failure,” says the report.Middle East water supplies depend heavily on underground aquifers, but these are drying out at alarming rates. The International Institute for Sustainable Development has estimated that the Jordan river may shrink by 80 percent by 2100 and that ground water supplies will deteriorate further as demand increases. Nonrenewable aquifers are the major source of water in Saudi Arabia.

Satellite images from the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment show that the Tigris-Euphrates basin is losing water faster than any other place in the world, except northern India, with the loss of 117m acre-feet of stored freshwater between 2003-2009. Pollution in the Tigris river caused by the discharge of drainage water from agricultural areas and sewage discharge near Baghdad is a major constraint to freshwater availability in Iraq,” says a recent Brookings Institute report.In the Sana’a basin in Yemen, the groundwater table is falling nearly six metres per year and government has debated moving the capital city. The report coincides with the northern hemisphere experiencing some of its most extreme heat in decades, adding to water evaporation, affecting crops, increasing demand and drying up supplies.In the past, Algeria usually experienced siroccos – hot blasts of wind from the Sahara – rather than heatwaves. Now we have them at any time of the year with varying intensities. Algeria has experienced over 40 days of heatwave this year,” said Mahi Tabet-Aoul, Algerian atmospheric scientist.One reason why water is so scarce is because farming wastes so much. In addition, many rich people across the region have dug their own wells to tap into aquifers, leading to over-pumping and pollution of groundwater in cities like Damascus.

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Postby panduranghari » 08 Sep 2015 21:54

Our Radical Islamic BFF Saudi Arabia

That argument was from Lt. Gen. Thomas McInerney, the retired former vice commander of U.S. Air Forces in Europe, who said of the nuclear accord: “What I don’t like about this is, the number one leading radical Islamic group in the world is the Iranians. They are purveyors of radical Islam throughout the region and throughout the world. And we are going to enable them to get nuclear weapons.”
Sorry, General, but the title greatest “purveyors of radical Islam” does not belong to the Iranians. Not even close. That belongs to our putative ally Saudi Arabia.

But if you think Iran is the only source of trouble in the Middle East, you must have slept through 9/11, when 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Nothing has been more corrosive to the stability and modernization of the Arab world, and the Muslim world at large, than the billions and billions of dollars the Saudis have invested since the 1970s into wiping out the pluralism of Islam — the Sufi, moderate Sunni and Shiite versions — and imposing in its place the puritanical, anti-modern, anti-women, anti-Western, anti-pluralistic Wahhabi Salafist brand of Islam promoted by the Saudi religious establishment.

It is not an accident that several thousand Saudis have joined the Islamic State or that Arab Gulf charities have sent ISIS donations. It is because all these Sunni jihadist groups — ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Nusra Front — are the ideological offspring of the Wahhabism injected by Saudi Arabia into mosques and madrasas from Morocco to Pakistan to Indonesia.

And we, America, have never called them on that — because we’re addicted to their oil and addicts never tell the truth to their pushers.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 08 Sep 2015 22:24

Yesterday BBC International news was waxing eloquent about how generous the British are to take in 4000 a year until 2020 for a grand total of 20,000. But they kept showing the Hungarian police brutality and mentioned in a 5 second clip how France is taking in 25K and Germany 800K just this year alone. Same kind of biased reporting to show UK in very good light was there during Desert Storm II. They were making a big thing that UK pledged 500 mill ounds where after mentioneing in a matter of fact tone that US pledged 10 billion. They also reported that Japan should step up to the plate and pledge even more than their $5 billion. Huge entitlement these upper crust Etonian lards have.
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Postby Falijee » 08 Sep 2015 22:53

Karzai: West 'Should Listen to Putin' if it is Sincere in Anti-Terror Fight

Western countries should join a broader international coalition against the Islamic State jihadist group as proposed by Russian President Vladimir Putin if their true intention is to eliminate the threat emanating from the extremists, former Afghan President Hamid Karzai told Sputnik Arabic on Tuesday.

“We want Russia to reassert itself, to take a stronger stand and to be present in this region like it was in the past. … Russia has the ability to do this, and Afghanistan will be your companion and will walk with you and will give you a firm hand of friendship,” Karzai stressed.

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Postby Chandragupta » 09 Sep 2015 00:16

http://www.infowars.com/muslim-refugees ... row-feces/

I read somewhere that Germany is taking in 500,000 more asylum seekers in addition to 800,000 refugees and the reason for this large heartedness is supposedly demographics - they need young workers to support an ageing population. But my question is wouldn't it be safer for Germans to import labor from India & China? Why shoot themselves in the foot by planting the seeds of future security headaches?

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Postby Jarita » 09 Sep 2015 01:44

^^^ Knowing the Germans they probably want to get first dibs at the Christian Refugees and there are large numbers.
Also, lesser known but there are active programs in Germany where they reach out to asylum seekers and convert them to Christianity.
Present Islamic population of Germany is 5%. This will add 1% point at most and after settling down it is likely that the immigrants might move to other European countries (which is why Europe is getting nervous). This population will also serve as a counter to other groups particularly from Africa.
Germany can easily absorb and convert or control. This is a win-win situation for them.
Also in the racial totem pole, they would much prefer the Syrians to other stock.

But I believe that primarily Germany wants first dibs on the Syrian refugee population. There is a large population of Christians in that group.

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby Vayutuvan » 09 Sep 2015 03:01

Chandragupta wrote:http://www.infowars.com/muslim-refugees-chant-allahu-akbar-fk-you-attack-citizens-throw-feces/

I read somewhere that Germany is taking in 500,000 more asylum seekers in addition to 800,000 refugees and the reason for this large heartedness is supposedly demographics


That was also said on BBC as well. It is a tough choice between believing in BBC impartiality vs. German altruism.

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby Singha » 09 Sep 2015 06:40

if i understand correctly, germanys muslim pop which is a mix of african+bosnian+turkish has been less troublesome than the UK's muslim pop. have not heard of 'radical clerics' there - yet.

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby Jarita » 09 Sep 2015 06:45

^^^ That is likely because Germany is not pumping these clerics like pitbulls for waging wars in the middle east and Indian subcontinent. Unlike the anglos they are not deliberately fanning the flames of fanaticism to be used elsewhere.

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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 09 Sep 2015 09:08

Saudi-Led Coalition Attack Kills Indian Nationals in Western Yemen

Multiple airstrikes in the coastal area of western Yemen have reportedly killed over 20 people, most of whom appear to have been Indian nationals.

More than 22 people died after an air raid targeted fuel smugglers at the port of al-Khokha located next to with city of Hodeidah in Yemen’s west, Al Jazeera reported.According to local residents, planes flying for the Saudi-led coalition hit two boats in the port area, which is dominantly used by Indians.

Neither Yemeni nor Indian officials have confirmed the data on casualties.

"We are ascertaining the facts about the reports," Vikas Swarup, spokesman for India’s Ministry of External Affairs told Press Trust of India.




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Re: West Asia News and Discussions

Postby Austin » 09 Sep 2015 09:21

Russia not planning to transform logistics center in Syria's Tartus into military base
19:56 September 8, 2015 Interfax

Moscow is not planning to transform its logistics center in Syria's Tartus into a full-format military base, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister and special presidential representative for the Middle East and African countries Mikhail Bogdanov told Interfax.

"There are no such plans," Bogdanov said when asked whether Russia could transform its logistics center in Tartus into a military base amid Western media reports alleging that Russia was stepping up its military presence in Syria.

"This logistics center has been in Tartus for decades, and nobody has ever had any questions on this account," Bogdanov said.

"The parameters of this center's operations and its purposes are well-known, and I don't see any problems in this case," the diplomat said.

- http://rbth.com/news/2015/09/08/russia_ ... 49078.html)

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