West Asia News and Discussions (YEMEN, gulf)

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 20 Dec 2015 08:16

Ghouta (east Damascus) attack was Sarin as well and estimated deaths range from 300-1700 so it does have tactical use if the user feels desparate to clear off an area or do a false flag like it was done by Syrian rebels in Ghouta.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 20 Dec 2015 08:36

sarin was weaponized only in 1950s, WW1 had mustard gas probably. but then trench warfare involved millions of troops stuck in relatively static positions which artillery could target. syria is small sections and platoons moving around with no real dug in trench lines. people are thin on ground.

point taken about the russian base as a target. they tried to shell it once using a 155mm piece whose photo was posted here. the shells fell few km short.

schinnas · Post by **schinnas** » 20 Dec 2015 13:28

Our soft power of Indian spirituality expressed through Spiritual organizations such as Art of Living is gaining foothold even in Middle-East. Bahrain royal family with Art of Living Swamiji (disciple swamy of Sri Sri) on the eve of Bahrain national day!

https://twitter.com/SriSri/status/674257928958836736

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 21 Dec 2015 14:39

mustard gas and chlorine in WW1

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 22 Dec 2015 23:55

is Modi's India flirting with fascism?
Is Modi's India flirting with fascism? with Ram Madhav will be broadcast on December 25 at 2000 GMT and will be repeated on December 26 at 1200, December 27 at 0100, and December 28 at 0600.

Why do subject our self to such stupidity by participating?.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 23 Dec 2015 03:57

IMO RM can take care of himself. Probably use the papparazzi as a carpet. Let's see..

habal · Post by **habal** » 23 Dec 2015 09:05

Saudi Arabia gets caught in another diplomatic failure. This time with Oman.
Oman not willing to participate in coalition.

In December, 2015 bilateral relations between Saudi Arabia and Oman became considerably more complicated. The reasons were the refusal of Oman to take part in the “Islamic anti-terrorist coalition” which was declared recently with pomp in Riyadh, and divergence on the Iranian question as well as concerning settlement of the Syrian conflict

http://southfront.org/the-next-diplomat ... di-arabia/

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 24 Dec 2015 06:11

http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/vi ... aint-37019

Abhilash went there on December 4, since the time they reached there, the torture began. One person, Shamzad, a native of Arattupuzha, took them there offering a mechanic’s job in a company. They were taken to a different company, not the company where they were originally offered jobs from Kerala. Their sponsor beats them everyday. Abhilash is just a 21-year-old who had many dreams. He wanted to look after us well, so he went there. Now he wants to escape from there somehow. Shamzad is asking 10000 riyals to give his passport back. One day Shamzad threw them out from a room where they stayed. Then, they spent days without food, water and did not even have clothes to change. This video they sent on Friday," Abhilash's sister, Anju says.Here is the video.
http://www.thenewsminute.com/article/vi ... ydzzo.dpuf

Sushma Swaraj ✔ @SushmaSwaraj
@IndiaToday @dhanyarajendran I have seen the video. I have asked for a report from Indian Embassy in Saudi Arabia.
8:05 AM - 23 Dec 2015

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 28 Dec 2015 16:41

Flash:Iraqi army says says Ramadi totally liberated from ISIS.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 87731.html
Syria and Iraq: Ethnic cleansing by Sunni and Shia jihadis is leading to a partition of the Middle East
Conflicts among communities that once lived together in peace brings the prospect of a refugee crisis that will continue long after the fighting ends
Patrick Cockburn

Conflicts among communities that once lived together in peace brings the prospect of a refugee crisis that will continue long after the fighting ends
Patrick Cockburn |
Sunni Iraqis fleeing violence in Ramadi arriving in Baghdad; more than 90,000 people have fled fighting between pro-government forces and Isis in the Ramadi area AFP/Getty

Sectarian and ethnic cleansing by all sides in Syria and Iraq is becoming more intense, ensuring that there are few mixed areas left in the two countries and, even if the war ends, many refugees will find it too dangerous to return to their homes.

Communities which once lived together in peace are today so frightened of each other after years of savage warfare that the more powerful sect or ethnic group is forcing out the weaker one. This pattern is repeating itself everywhere from the Sunni towns captured by Shia militiamen in provinces around Baghdad to Christian enclaves in central Syria under threat from Isis, and in Turkmen villages just south of the Syrian-Turkish border being bombed by Russian aircraft.

UK air strikes in Syria have helped Sunni states 'ditch Isis fight'

The inability of Syrians and Iraqis to return home in safety means that Europe and the Middle East will have to cope for decades to come with an irreversible refugee crisis brought on by the war.

There are good reasons for everybody to be afraid, though outside powers play down the sectarian or ethnic agenda of their local Syrian proxies and allies. “We will end up like the Christians, being forced out of the country,” says a young Sunni photographer, Mahmoud Omar, who once lived in Ramadi in the overwhelmingly Sunni province of Anbar. Many fled when Isis captured the city in May which is now under assault by the military forces of the Shia-dominated government in Baghdad trying to recapture it. Some 1.4 million people from Anbar or 43 per cent of its population are displaced, according to the International Organisation for Migration.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 29 Dec 2015 07:56

So how is Yemen dong?

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 29 Dec 2015 09:06

U mean:

“We will end up like the ~~Christians~~ (Muslims disguised as Xtians), being forced out of the country,” says a young Sunni photographer, Mahmoud Omar, who once lived in Ramadi in the overwhelmingly Sunni province of Anbar.

How can there b any Xtian in these MidEast hain? Wasn't JesUS Christ blue-eyed, blond-haired Norwegian-American who lived in UK?

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 29 Dec 2015 12:01

Hatari for the Qataris? Perhaps the Emir's pet camel has indigestion!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... witzerland

Mystery of emergency landings of Qatari royal planes in Switzerland
As many as nine planes linked to Qatar’s royal family, including an Airbus, made unscheduled landings at Zurich-Kloten airport for ‘medical reasons’

Qatar’s Emir Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, right, and his father Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani.
Officials have reported planes belonging to the Qatari royals made emergency landings in Switzerland on 26 December.
Photograph: Karim Sahib/Mohammed al-Shaikh/AFP/Getty Images
Agence France-Presse
Tuesday 29 December 2015

Unidentified individuals travelling in planes belonging to Qatar’s royal family made an emergency trip to Switzerland over the weekend for medical reasons, according to a Swiss official.

A spokesman for Switzerland’s federal office of civil aviation confirmed local media reports that multiple aircraft made unscheduled landings at the Zurich-Kloten airport overnight from 25 to 26 December and that the planes were part of the Qatari royal fleet.

'We will be ready, inshallah': inside Qatar's $200bn World Cup

He gave no details as to who was on board or who any of the potential patients may have been.

“The emergency landing clearance was given by the Swiss air force,” he told AFP, explaining that the civil aviation office was closed during the hours in question.

Night landings and takeoffs are typically forbidden at Zurich-Kloten to avoid disturbing local residents.

Swiss foreign ministry spokesman Georg Farago told AFP in an email that the federation was informed about the “stay of members of Qatar’s royal family in Switzerland”, without giving further details.

According to Zurich’s Tages Anzeiger newspaper, the first Qatari plane, an Airbus, landed in Zurich from Marrakesh shortly after midnight on 26 December.

Members of the Qatari royal family had reportedly been on holiday in Morocco at a resort in the Atlas mountains.

A second flight landed at Zurich-Kloten at 5am (0400 GMT) on 26 December, with a third plane coming 15 minutes later, both having originated in Doha, the paper reported.

According to Tages Anzeiger, the medical emergency in question was so significant that six more planes linked to the Qatari royal family and government landed in Zurich through the weekend.

No immediate details were available about any specific health emergencies among Qatari royals.

Qatar’s Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al-Thani, 35, ascended the throne in 2013 after his father Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani abdicated in his favour.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 29 Dec 2015 12:21

The Soothis in sh*t street too! Return of the camel? "Petro Powers" now "Petro-Paupers"!

Soothi Barbaria has announced that utilities will not be subsidized anymore and fuel prices will rise in the cameldom. The price of camels has gone up as alternative traditional transport may yet make a comeback! Soothi sheikhs are supposed to be visiting western nations to try and see how much more their shekels invested can earn them as the oil prices plummet further and further into the abyss thanks to their own folly of pumping even larger qtys than ever. Watch the riyal reel!

Saudi riyal in danger as oil war escalates
“If anything happens to the riyal exchange peg, the consequences will be dramatic," warns the country's exchange rate guru
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econ ... lates.html

The Saudi riyal is under serious speculative attack
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

8:00PM GMT 28 Dec 2015

Saudi Arabia is burning through foreign reserves at an unsustainable rate and may be forced to give up its prized dollar exchange peg as the oil slump drags on, the country’s former reserve chief has warned.

“If anything happens to the riyal exchange peg, the consequences will be dramatic. There will be a serious loss of confidence,” said Khalid Alsweilem, the former head of asset management at the Saudi central bank (SAMA).

“But if the reserves keep going down as they are now, they will not be able to keep the peg,” he told The Telegraph.

His warning came as the Saudi finance ministry revealed that the country’s deficit leapt to 367bn riyals (£66bn) this year, up from 54bn riyals the previous year. The International Monetary Fund has suggested Saudia Arabia could be running a deficit of around $140bn (£94bn).

• Saudi Arabia unveils record deficit as it succumbs to oil price rout
Remittances by foreign workers in Saudi Arabia are draining a further $36bn a year, and capital outflows were picking up even before the oil price crash. Bank of America estimates that the deficit could rise to nearer $180bn if oil prices settle near $30 a barrel, testing the riyal peg to breaking point.

Dr Alsweilem said the country does not have deep enough pockets to wage a long war of attrition in the global crude markets, whatever the superficial appearances.

Concern has become acute after 12-month forward contracts on the Saudi Riyal reached 730 basis points over recent days, the highest since the worst days of last oil crisis in February 1999.

The contracts are watched closely by traders for signs of currency stress. The latest spike suggests that the riyal is under concerted attack by hedge funds and speculators in the region, risking a surge of capital flight.

A string of oil states have had to abandon their currency pegs over recent weeks. The Azerbaijani manat crashed by a third last Monday after the authorities finally admitted defeat.

The dollar peg has been the anchor of Saudi economic policy and credibility for over three decades. A forced devaluation would heighten fears that the crisis is spinning out of political control, further enflaming disputes within the royal family.

Foreign reserves and assets have fallen to $647bn from a peak of $746bn in August 2014, but headline figures often mean little in the complex world of central bank finances and derivative contracts.

Dr Alsweilem, now at Harvard University's Belfer Centre, said the Saudi authorities have taken a big gamble by flooding the world with oil to gain market share and drive out rivals. “The thinking that lower oil prices will bring down the US oil industry is just nonsense and will not work.”

The policy is contentious even within the Saudi royal family. Optimists hope that this episode will be a repeat of the mid-1980s when the kingdom pursued the same strategy and succeeded in curbing non-OPEC investment, and preperaring the ground for recovery in prices. But the current situation is sui generis.

The shale revolution has turned the US into a mid-cost swing producer, able to keep drilling at $50bn a barrel, according to the latest OPEC report. US shale frackers can switch output on and off relatively quickly, acting as a future headwind against price rises.

The energy intensity of global GDP is falling rapidly. Renewable technology and energy efficiency have both made huge strides. The latest climate accords in Paris imply some form of carbon tax that will ratchet upwards over time, slowly changing the cost calculus for oil use.

“There is an overwhelming feeling among many in Saudi Arabia that this crisis is just cyclical and that it will reverse soon, so everything will be OK. But the danger is that what is happening is structural, and that means a country like Saudi Arabia can’t just sit still,” said Dr Alsweilem.

The thinking that lower oil prices will bring down the US oil industry is just nonsense and will not work

Khalid Alsweilem
The Saudi government may have unveiled an austerity package of spending cuts and increased taxes, and be looking to slash electricity and water subsidies for the wealthy. But Riyadh has to tread with care. The country’s cradle-to-grave welfare system is what keeps a lid on dissent and binds the country’s fissiparous tribal polity.

Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the 30-year old deputy crown prince now running the country, is trying to push through radical reforms, firing princelings from sinecure positions and bringing in an elite team of technocrats to transform Saudi Arabia’s archaic oil-based economy.

He is drawing on a McKinsey study – ‘Beyond Oil’ - that sketches how the country can break its unhealthy dependence on crude, and double GDP by 2030 with a $4 trillion investment blitz across eight industries, from petrochemicals to metals, steel, aluminium smelting, cars, electrical manufacturing, tourism, and healthcare.

The underlying message of the report is that Saudi Arabia faces disaster unless it can overcome its resources curse - and reinvent itself fast, and this includes an acceptance that women must be drawn fully into the workforce.

The warnings have been seized on with alacrity by Prince Mohammed to confront vested interests. The public debt to GDP ratio will reach 140pc by 2030 and the deficit will still be in double digits, if only partial reforms are pushed through. That course implies bankruptcy.

Dr Alsweilem said Saudi Arabia is now paying the price for failing to establish a proper sovereign wealth fund during the fat years along the lines of the Norwegian Pension Fund or the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. “What matters is a credible long term-fiscal strategy rather than short-term measures. The IMF has warned them repeatedly on this,” he said.

The Saudis can disguise the effect of reserve depletion by issuing bonds to raise money but this is mere legerdemain under the current monetary structure. “It is completely wrong to think the Ministry of Finance can protect foreign assets by borrowing in riyal instead of selling reserves. This does not help at all. There is a one-for-one outflow from savings accounts,” said Dr Alsweilem.

Saudi Arabia has taken a diametrically different route to Russia in the gruelling price-war between the two petro-powers, as each knuckles down in the hope that the other will crack first.

Russian President Vladimir Putin shakes hands with Saudi Arabia's Defense Minister Prince Mohammed Bin Salman in the Konstantin Palace, St. Petersburg, Russia

The Kremlin has stopped running down reserves and has instead allowed the rouble to fall by 60pc against the dollar. This is painful for Russian consumers but protects the internal budget from the immediate shock of collapsing oil revenues.

Both face crises, but each of a different character. What is clear is that Russia and Saudi Arabia will both be in deeper trouble by 2017 unless they can agree to cut crude production and eliminate the global glut. No such concordat is yet on the cards.

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 29 Dec 2015 12:22

The Soothis in "riyal" trouble,pardon the pun! Return of the camel? "Petro Powers" now "Petro-Paupers"!

Soothi Barbaria has announced that utilities will not be subsidized anymore and fuel prices will rise in the cameldom. The price of camels has gone up as alternative traditional transport may yet make a comeback! Soothi sheikhs are supposed to be visiting western nations to try and see how much more their shekels invested can earn them as the oil prices plummet further and further into the abyss thanks to their own folly of pumping even larger qtys than ever. Watch the riyal reel!

Saudi riyal in danger as oil war escalates
“If anything happens to the riyal exchange peg, the consequences will be dramatic," warns the country's exchange rate guru
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econ ... lates.html

The Saudi riyal is under serious speculative attack
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

8:00PM GMT 28 Dec 2015

Saudi Arabia is burning through foreign reserves at an unsustainable rate and may be forced to give up its prized dollar exchange peg as the oil slump drags on, the country’s former reserve chief has warned.

“If anything happens to the riyal exchange peg, the consequences will be dramatic. There will be a serious loss of confidence,” said Khalid Alsweilem, the former head of asset management at the Saudi central bank (SAMA).

“But if the reserves keep going down as they are now, they will not be able to keep the peg,” he told The Telegraph.

His warning came as the Saudi finance ministry revealed that the country’s deficit leapt to 367bn riyals (£66bn) this year, up from 54bn riyals the previous year. The International Monetary Fund has suggested Saudia Arabia could be running a deficit of around $140bn (£94bn).

• Saudi Arabia unveils record deficit as it succumbs to oil price rout
Remittances by foreign workers in Saudi Arabia are draining a further $36bn a year, and capital outflows were picking up even before the oil price crash. Bank of America estimates that the deficit could rise to nearer $180bn if oil prices settle near $30 a barrel, testing the riyal peg to breaking point.

Dr Alsweilem said the country does not have deep enough pockets to wage a long war of attrition in the global crude markets, whatever the superficial appearances.

Concern has become acute after 12-month forward contracts on the Saudi Riyal reached 730 basis points over recent days, the highest since the worst days of last oil crisis in February 1999.

The contracts are watched closely by traders for signs of currency stress. The latest spike suggests that the riyal is under concerted attack by hedge funds and speculators in the region, risking a surge of capital flight.

A string of oil states have had to abandon their currency pegs over recent weeks. The Azerbaijani manat crashed by a third last Monday after the authorities finally admitted defeat.

The dollar peg has been the anchor of Saudi economic policy and credibility for over three decades. A forced devaluation would heighten fears that the crisis is spinning out of political control, further enflaming disputes within the royal family.

Foreign reserves and assets have fallen to $647bn from a peak of $746bn in August 2014, but headline figures often mean little in the complex world of central bank finances and derivative contracts.

Dr Alsweilem, now at Harvard University's Belfer Centre, said the Saudi authorities have taken a big gamble by flooding the world with oil to gain market share and drive out rivals. “The thinking that lower oil prices will bring down the US oil industry is just nonsense and will not work.”

The policy is contentious even within the Saudi royal family. Optimists hope that this episode will be a repeat of the mid-1980s when the kingdom pursued the same strategy and succeeded in curbing non-OPEC investment, and preperaring the ground for recovery in prices. But the current situation is sui generis.

The shale revolution has turned the US into a mid-cost swing producer, able to keep drilling at $50bn a barrel, according to the latest OPEC report. US shale frackers can switch output on and off relatively quickly, acting as a future headwind against price rises.

The energy intensity of global GDP is falling rapidly. Renewable technology and energy efficiency have both made huge strides. The latest climate accords in Paris imply some form of carbon tax that will ratchet upwards over time, slowly changing the cost calculus for oil use.

“There is an overwhelming feeling among many in Saudi Arabia that this crisis is just cyclical and that it will reverse soon, so everything will be OK. But the danger is that what is happening is structural, and that means a country like Saudi Arabia can’t just sit still,” said Dr Alsweilem.

The thinking that lower oil prices will bring down the US oil industry is just nonsense and will not work

Khalid Alsweilem
The Saudi government may have unveiled an austerity package of spending cuts and increased taxes, and be looking to slash electricity and water subsidies for the wealthy. But Riyadh has to tread with care. The country’s cradle-to-grave welfare system is what keeps a lid on dissent and binds the country’s fissiparous tribal polity.

Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the 30-year old deputy crown prince now running the country, is trying to push through radical reforms, firing princelings from sinecure positions and bringing in an elite team of technocrats to transform Saudi Arabia’s archaic oil-based economy.

He is drawing on a McKinsey study – ‘Beyond Oil’ - that sketches how the country can break its unhealthy dependence on crude, and double GDP by 2030 with a $4 trillion investment blitz across eight industries, from petrochemicals to metals, steel, aluminium smelting, cars, electrical manufacturing, tourism, and healthcare.

The underlying message of the report is that Saudi Arabia faces disaster unless it can overcome its resources curse - and reinvent itself fast, and this includes an acceptance that women must be drawn fully into the workforce.

The warnings have been seized on with alacrity by Prince Mohammed to confront vested interests. The public debt to GDP ratio will reach 140pc by 2030 and the deficit will still be in double digits, if only partial reforms are pushed through. That course implies bankruptcy.

Dr Alsweilem said Saudi Arabia is now paying the price for failing to establish a proper sovereign wealth fund during the fat years along the lines of the Norwegian Pension Fund or the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. “What matters is a credible long term-fiscal strategy rather than short-term measures. The IMF has warned them repeatedly on this,” he said.

The Saudis can disguise the effect of reserve depletion by issuing bonds to raise money but this is mere legerdemain under the current monetary structure. “It is completely wrong to think the Ministry of Finance can protect foreign assets by borrowing in riyal instead of selling reserves. This does not help at all. There is a one-for-one outflow from savings accounts,” said Dr Alsweilem.

Saudi Arabia has taken a diametrically different route to Russia in the gruelling price-war between the two petro-powers, as each knuckles down in the hope that the other will crack first.

Russian President Vladimir Putin shakes hands with Saudi Arabia's Defense Minister Prince Mohammed Bin Salman in the Konstantin Palace, St. Petersburg, Russia

The Kremlin has stopped running down reserves and has instead allowed the rouble to fall by 60pc against the dollar. This is painful for Russian consumers but protects the internal budget from the immediate shock of collapsing oil revenues.

Both face crises, but each of a different character. What is clear is that Russia and Saudi Arabia will both be in deeper trouble by 2017 unless they can agree to cut crude production and eliminate the global glut. No such concordat is yet on the cards.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Dec 2015 13:27

those qatari planes were either carting money and gold for safekeeping from whoever had his eye on them, or else a mass food poisoning at some royal family repast - the arabs set great store by swiss and austrian type boutique doctors and sanatoriums that care for the ailments of the worlds richest. they might have suspected the publicity of medical treatment locally would reflect badly.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 29 Dec 2015 13:33

UlanBatori wrote:U mean:

“We will end up like the ~~Christians~~ (Muslims disguised as Xtians), being forced out of the country,” says a young Sunni photographer, Mahmoud Omar, who once lived in Ramadi in the overwhelmingly Sunni province of Anbar.
How can there b any Xtian in these MidEast hain? Wasn't JesUS Christ blue-eyed, blond-haired Norwegian-American who lived in UK?

....such tender care and concern for Christians....except not for those in India of course.....

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 29 Dec 2015 13:50

Ok this Guy is Trolling, In what way are Christians in India being wiped out like the ME or US Non NATO Major Allly Pakistan?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Dec 2015 14:11

http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/merce ... -764309832

pics and details of the australian mercs who work with uae presidential guard

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 29 Dec 2015 14:21

houthis continue to have run of place in border regions, patiently trapping and killing saudi armour, burning saudi infra and vehicles.. am yet to see any saudi infantry on foot or putting up a fight at these posts...mostly they drive away fast or drive to and fro at high speed in vehicles until inevitably hit by a missile or rocket.

rsingh · Post by **rsingh** » 29 Dec 2015 20:02

Aditya_V wrote:Ok this Guy is Trolling, In what way are Christians in India being wiped out like the ME or US Non NATO Major Allly Pakistan?

Protected endangered species as I told in one of my earlier posts. Spice to the discussions and a window into the mind average American yahoo. So bear with it.

Unrelated to the comment. Houthis are fighting like Vietcoms. They need more ouvert support and things will change quickly.

shaun · Post by **shaun** » 29 Dec 2015 20:47

this thread and the other on Levant crisis , have been quite informative and at times humorous , thanks and kudos to the posters . But a certain "imposter" is unloading "its" crap at regular interval . unsurprisingly those poop that "it" shoots over here smells like cee yen yen

On a serious note , counter narrative is always welcome but not at the cost of hypocrisy , double standard and ignorance . scooting out .

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 29 Dec 2015 21:02

TSJones wrote:
UlanBatori wrote:U mean:

{quote} “We will end up like the ~~Christians~~ (Muslims disguised as Xtians), being forced out of the country,” says a young Sunni photographer, Mahmoud Omar, who once lived in Ramadi in the overwhelmingly Sunni province of Anbar. {/quote}

How can there b any Xtian in these MidEast hain? Wasn't JesUS Christ blue-eyed, blond-haired Norwegian-American who lived in UK?
....such tender care and concern for Christians....except not for those in India of course.....

that was uncalled for, specially when motivated US based groups are prime movers in fostering ~~ill will~~ tourism by their ~~nefarious~~ agricultural and harvesting activities in India.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 29 Dec 2015 21:13

It's wonderful to sit in a place that is 60% Xtian (many from the original Syrian Catholic Church, who can trace their descent back to CE 0) and read idiotic posts from the Crusader Protectors of Xtianity.
Oh, yeah, I just parked my gas cylinders next 2 my Trishul Mark 3.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 29 Dec 2015 22:29

oh yes, the very soul of ecumenical dialog......

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 29 Dec 2015 23:13

Ecumenical is the key, Christians fight each other to the death, fight the Sarcen together. They have a laundry list of despoilt cultures over the globe. Now they need unfettered access to heathens to show them Christian love. Goa was not enough.

Christianism is in danger of disappaering in the US outside the Alabama backwoods, unless Santa Claus is Christian. Of course the the tribals in India, whether in Tripura or South Delhi, bereft of personal talents use Chrsitanism as a tool. Very convenient in the politics of victimhood. Little different from the gents in Harlem.

Why is it that Christianism is almost unknown in Silicon valley? Are these people not Americans?

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 30 Dec 2015 00:36

Aditya_V wrote:Ok this Guy is Trolling, In what way are Christians in India being wiped out like the ME or US Non NATO Major Allly Pakistan?

Not at all, sir. In fact, many churches were attacked in India before Delhi elections. I think USA Prez too condemned the violence, so if true that would be the official stand of US govt too.
link

..
The six-member delegation of Christian community leaders, including former All India Catholic Union president John Dayal and advocate Jenis Francis ..
..
Alleging that attacks on Christian community and institutions had risen in the past months, the delegation demanded that the government initiate urgent and effective measures ..

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 30 Dec 2015 00:52

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... n_churches

member_23370 · Post by **member_23370** » 30 Dec 2015 01:07

Suddenly the news on the saudi, uae rout has gone down. Is yemen anywhere close to being settled and peaceful?

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Dec 2015 03:18

sanjaykumar wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... n_churches

dry those tears, Sanjay. the Syrian Christians, whatever is left of them, are being protected by the Russians, Thank goodness for that.

the iraqi Christians have already mostly gone to the US.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 30 Dec 2015 04:04

You misunderstand me. I certainly support ALL non-Muslims being given protection in this region of medieval warfare. Hell the pacifist in me compells me to extend the sentiment to all human beings. Lovers of the camel, haters of the pig, lovers of the cow, eaters of them all.

The point is that it is facile to make trolling posts. Do expect a stinging rejoinder.

TSJones · Post by **TSJones** » 30 Dec 2015 04:14

I was replying to THIS POST from the professor:

U mean:

Quote:
“We will end up like the Christians (Muslims disguised as Xtians), being forced out of the country,” says a young Sunni photographer, Mahmoud Omar, who once lived in Ramadi in the overwhelmingly Sunni province of Anbar.

How can there b any Xtian in these MidEast hain? Wasn't JesUS Christ blue-eyed, blond-haired Norwegian-American who lived in UK?

....so it is unfair that I reply to this post in the same vein?

Sanjay, this is off topic and I will no longer comment on it. fire away if you need to.....

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 30 Dec 2015 04:24

Okay I guess I see the point.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 30 Dec 2015 07:49

*sound of bugler beating the retreat*

all skirmishers and scouts please report back to camp. dusk has fallen and no more firing is permitted.

naan and mutton await the faithful in the mess hall.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 30 Dec 2015 08:36

The Cavalry Rides 2 Da Rescue of Saudi Arabia!

Caviar and Johnny Walker prices soar in Riyadh: Kuwait to send troops to Saudi for Yemen war: report

( I can understand "Kuwait Mercedes Limo Troops" but Who is "Kuwait Ground Troops"? Philistinians? I thought they drove all those poor ppl out following GW1?)
Plus ... Raytheon stock to rise: Patriot mijjiles export to rise.

Saudi intercepts missile from Yemen

P.S. 2 answer above question, there is a "seize Fire" in effect.

Three civilians, two of them from India, died on Saturday when shellfire from Yemen struck the border city of Najran.

ldev · Post by **ldev** » 31 Dec 2015 22:02

According to the Iranian news agency here Houthi forces today launched a Qaher-1 missile attack on Abha airport in Saudi Arabia which includes King Khalid Airbase from where most of the Saudi airstrikes on Yemen originate, causing heavy casualties and damage.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 31 Dec 2015 22:41

Uploaded Dec 30, 2015
Bahraini F-16 jet crashes in Saudi border town
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDo6wSHTykA

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 31 Dec 2015 23:39

New ways of celebrating New Year...everyone burns firecrackers but soothies burn their buildings.....take that you yindoos..

Massive fire breaks out near Burj Khalifa during Dubai New Year’s fireworks display - Dec 31, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9dcFonL0A4

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 31 Dec 2015 23:50

mofossils were trying to recreate 2014 type fireworks as below (watch from 2:00)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US_JlgUQaqY

Height of deracination is when rabid sunni mohammadan followers celebrating the beginning of Christ Era in this grandiose way.

Vinod Ji · Post by **Vinod Ji** » 31 Dec 2015 23:57

Reporting from Dubai..
Till now no causality but few injured..
crowd handled admirably..
sprinkler system is to be credited for working flawlessly till quarter an hour back. fire is now starting to engulf inside the building.

firework still go.. this is more inorder to control crowds then for any other reason.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 01 Jan 2016 14:06

Seems like the fire is still continuing and CNN reports of a huge explosion at the base of the building.

See this video at 4 sec:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuWqvyBMpKo

Now will this building collapse similar to WTC on 9/11 or despite burning for few days it will stand erect bolstering 9/11 CT further.