Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby anupmisra » 10 Jul 2017 16:39

IndraD wrote:after initial flip flop Congress has accepted Rahul met Chinese envoy.
Why? What was he going to discuss? In what capacity?
BJP should roast him alive on this...and people will happily support them.


Track II diplomacy? R. Gandhi needs to be kept busy and useful. Modi just found this young 'un something to do. PVNR once asked ABV (leader of the opposition at that time) to represent India at the UN in Geneva on the nuclear issue. Showed unity.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 16:46

There is a tradition of visiting heads of state meeting with opposition leaders and opposition leaders meeting Ambassadors is routine.

The problem is timing and the flip-flop. And I have an additional problem with the optics. It is the ambassador who should have visited the opposition leader and not the other way around. Pappu is not Manish Tewari or Gulam Nabi Azad. He is after all the clown prince. Makes it look like he was summoned by the resident Chinese Viceroy. Invitation to a Chinese function like the lunar new year celebration is different. Did Modi visit the US ambassador or did the US ambassador reach out to Modi just before the 2014 GE?

But anything to spite Modi ... so now pay the price.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby nirav » 10 Jul 2017 16:52

He ain't even the leader of opposition.
The man has no locus standing for that meeting.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby anupmisra » 10 Jul 2017 16:55

How Seriously Should You Take Global Times?

(Global Times) provides a channel for Beijing to voice its displeasure and let off some nationalist steam. The reporter says one of the KPIs for Global Times is how many times it gets cited in foreign press, so editors often use colourful and outrageous language to attract foreign media’s attention.


http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2016/08/se ... bal-times/

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 16:56

That is true but the assumption is that he is going to take over from his mother as CON president. US presidents religiously met with Sonia Gandhi whenever they visited India. The leader or the leader in waiting of the CON party is still an important leader.

Immaterial that he is a duffer and that we mock him BUT to outsiders he is the leader in waiting of the second most important party of India. The optics is just terrible. That he couldn't figure out the optics is understandable but what about his *seasoned* advisors?
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby nirav » 10 Jul 2017 16:59

anupmisra wrote:How Seriously Should You Take Global Times?

(Global Times) provides a channel for Beijing to voice its displeasure and let off some nationalist steam. The reporter says one of the KPIs for Global Times is how many times it gets cited in foreign press, so editors often use colourful and outrageous language to attract foreign media’s attention.


http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2016/08/se ... bal-times/


I introduce global times to my friends as Chinese 'Saamna'.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby IndraD » 10 Jul 2017 17:00

There should be carpet bombing of China by Indian media & representatives regarding their lack of democracy, human rights, lack of transparency, tibet freedom, ongoing border disputes with many countries, how it gets along well with NoKo & Pk only, controlled press, no independent media houses etc...

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Philip » 10 Jul 2017 17:40

The best way to stop these yellow-livered bullies is to send one Subramaniam Swamy to Taipei,even on a pleasure trip! The Zhongnanhai geriatrics will be incontinent the whole night ,with "yellow rivers" a-downstreaming! SS holding informal discussions with the Taipei elite will send the strongest message yet that India cares an "F" for the hyperventilating zits and Xi Gins hizzelf.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby TKiran » 10 Jul 2017 18:27

It's still not clear why PLA needs a dead-end road to tri-junction​? PLA says they have sovereignty till tri-junction, all that's OK what they say, but the actual reason could be that they were preparing for some offensive shortly and some chaiwala would have informed the IA and IA thought it would be much easier to intercept them at doklam plateau rather than letting them come till the tri-junction point.

What is important is to analyze why they started unilaterally altering status quo and give IA a reason to stop them. I mean India didn't dispute their soverginity till the tri-junction, as long as the status quo was being managed. It's a road with dead-end at tri-junction. Or was the road supposed to take a U-turn at tri-junction and connect to something else? What was their original plan if IA didn't bother to intervene on behalf of Bhutan?

Also how did the PLA reach Doka Lam? Assuming that they already laid the road till Doka Lam, and that is the way they reached Doka Lam, then did IA destroy the road already laid by IA? Or better still, did IA use the road laid by PLA to reach Doklam plateau and then stopped the PLA roadbuilding equipment by dismantling? What is the current status of the road? Is it already destroyed or IA is using this road still for deployment?
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby sudhan » 10 Jul 2017 18:44

The escalation with the drama queens up north and the regular whackings that are being administered to the pigs across the western borders gets really interesting when one remembers the 'emergency' arms purchases that we did some time back.. As far as I remember, we placed emergency orders to the tune of 3 billion dollars in early 2017.

I hope the emergency purchases were a result of a complex and detailed war-game to know our weaknesses and come up with ways to plug gaps in capabilities.

Found a link:

India places $3B order for emergency weapon purchases

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 19:12

@TKiran. It seems that the trijunction is a high point which gives an clear field of view down south towards where it seems the Indian and/or the Bhutanese are stationed on the next ridge. To the west it looks down into the river valleys that from the backbone of our supply route into sikkim.

Suppose the Chinese are able to place artilery or even have lookouts stationed at these points they will be able to direct fire and target our supply lines easily. Remember the bakis at Kargil heights performed the same function in targeting of our road leading to Siachen.

That would immediately alter the strategic balance in that region to our disadvantage.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby TKiran » 10 Jul 2017 19:19

Pankaj sir, what you are saying is correct,

In addition to that, the reason for this much of mirchi lagi could be that IA would have used this road to reach Doklam plateau and may still be using it now for deployment, that's what I am trying to understand.

How did PLA think that India would not react with this extreme provocation? They would have gamed it, still IA chose to intervene the road much ahead of tri-junction. There is much more to the story than what the Chinese are making it out in global times, the IA also could have given more detailed anti-propaganda information, and the world would have been giving much more sympathetic ear to our position than the propaganda of a liar

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby shiv » 10 Jul 2017 19:27

TKiran wrote:
Also how did the PLA reach Doka Lam? Assuming that they already laid the road till Doka Lam, and that is the way they reached Doka Lam, then did IA destroy the road already laid by IA? Or better still, did IA use the road laid by PLA to reach Doklam plateau and then stopped the PLA roadbuilding equipment by dismantling? What is the current status of the road? Is it already destroyed or IA is using this road still for deployment?

Aha. You have not seen my latesht veidieo

End of highway S 204 is a town called Chumbi and a Cheeni name. That town lies in the Amo Chu/Chumbi river valley. That river goes south west and forms the Tibet Bhutan border. The Cheenis have path running parallel to the river till the reach the foot of the plateau and there is a tortuous climb up the plateau seen on Google Earth. It is a 17 plus (maybe 25) km trek but they have stopped exactly at the ridgeline that represents the Indian border close to Indian position

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IXlLdtKIxQ

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby DrRatnadip » 10 Jul 2017 19:29

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1055762.shtml

Forty-two years after merging, are people in Sikkim happy to be Indian?

After Sikkim became India's 22nd state in 1975, its border with China became the Sino-India border. Forty-two years after the monarchy of the Himalayan kingdom was deposed following a popular referendum, the region remains a matter of international interest.

Sikkim occupies a special geographical position. It lies on the border between the two most populous nations in the world and is close to India's "throat," the Siliguri Corridor. In any regional war it would be a prized target.

Sikkim's past as an independent kingdom is being forgotten by many. But there are many Sikkimese who still don't feel truly Indian.

No Chinese allowed

Chinese find Sikkim a difficult place to visit. Lü Pengfei, who was a correspondent in India for three years, told the Global Times that he heard he could charter a car from Darjeeling into Sikkim while in the town on a reporting trip in 2015. He didn't dare do it.

"When I came back to New Delhi, I sent an application to the Indian Ministry of Home Affairs as well as Sikkim state's office in New Delhi for permission to travel there, but it wasn't granted," he said.

A Nepalese national who has traveled to Sikkim before told the Global Times he has failed to take Chinese friends to the region.

"Chinese and Pakistanis are almost never allowed inside Sikkim. It's not strictly forbidden, but the application process is complicated," he said

Why chinese are behaving like rejected jilted lover ? They have become more paki than real paki s..

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 19:35

@TKiran No Sir or ji for me.

I don't think the IA will use this road to reach Dokalam plateau because once it exits the trijunction it mostly falls in the undisputed Chinese territory. IA would reach Dokalam plateau from east via Bhutan. Instead of confronting them just in the trijunction area IA should take position on the ridge next to their road on the Doklam plateau. That place the valley is narrow and we should be able to block the road with minimal force and thus cutoff their buildup near the trijunction.

It is unclear if we have challenged them at the trijunction or the Dokalam plateau or both places. The impression I get is that we have blocked them at the trijunction only.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Rajeev » 10 Jul 2017 19:59

Xinjiang and Uyghurs Islamic separatism is the proverbial Achilles hill of China and one wonders if this could be exploited in any way to India’s advantage. Not suggesting an encore of what TSP is doing to us but just to use it as a pressure point to highlight human right violations etc. in world forums.

http://jcpa.org/article/chinese-approach-radical-islam/

India must also relook its policy towards Hong Kong and Taiwan apart from Tibet to keep China constantly occupied. Idea is to imprint in Chinese minds that their ambitions of a world superpower would remain a pipe dream so long they have an enemy in India breathing down their necks so an immediate course correction vis-a-vis policy towards India be the need of the hour. US couldn’t have become a world power with enemies in its background ( Canada, Mexico ) and neither can PRC.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby g.sarkar » 10 Jul 2017 20:37

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/rahul ... 170710.htm
'It is my job to be informed': Rahul defends meeting Chinese envoy
"It is my job to be informed on critical issues. I met the Chinese Ambassador, Ex-NSA, Congress leaders from northeast and the Bhutanese Ambassador," Rahul said in a tweet.
Reacting to the controversy around the meeting, he said, "If the government is so concerned about me meeting an ambassador,they should explain why three ministers are availing Chinese hospitality while the border issue is on."
Rahul was referring to the recent visits of Human Resource Minister Prakash Javdekar, Health Minister J P Nadda, Culture Minister Mahesh Sharma to China for multilateral and bilateral meetings amid the standoff at the border.
Attacking Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Rahul tweeted his photo with Chinese President Xi Jinping in a swing in Gujarat in 2014, when the armies of the two countries were locked in a similar stand-off.
"And for the record I am not the guy sitting on the swing while a thousand Chinese troops had physically entered India," Gandhi tweeted.
Earlier, six hours after an assertive denial of meeting between Rahul and the Chinese envoy, the Congress did a major flip-flop and said that not only did the party vice-president meet the latter, but the Bhutanese envoy as well.
“Various ambassadors and envoys keep meeting the Congress president and the vice-president from time to time on a courtesy basis, particularly those of G5 nations and also of the neighbouring countries -- be it the Chinese ambassador, or the Bhutanese ambassador or the former national security advisor Shiv Shankar Menon,” Congress spokerperson Randeep Singh Surjewala said.
“Rahul Gandhi met all of them. So, nobody should try to sensationalise such normal courtesy calls or term them as events, like the sources from the ministry of external affairs are trying to do. Rahul Gandhi and other opposition leaders are fully aware of or national interests and other concerns about the grave situation on the Indo-Chinese Border and Bhutan, including Sikkim,” he added.
Surjewala also attacked Prime Minister Narendra Modi and said, “Despite having sour relations with the China, our prime minister met Chinese President Xi Jinping in Germany.”
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ramana » 10 Jul 2017 20:55

The three ministers are in official capacity. What incapacity is Rahul Gandhi meeting Chinese ambassador?

And what about Shiva Shankar Menon. Has he lost his mind? He is supposed to be a professional not a party hack.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ramana » 10 Jul 2017 20:56

Philip, Can you tone down your language? No need for histrionics.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 21:00

OK ... our old friend Ashok K. Mehta seems to suggest that the Doklam in the news is the Doklam plateau upstream from Yadong and not next to the trijunction. If this is true then we have intercepted them upstream from Yadong.

https://thewire.in/156134/india-china-doklam/
To Prevent a Bigger Conflict, India and China Must Both Withdraw From Doklam
The PLA has clandestinely been encroaching on Bhutanese territory since the mid-1960s with a long view to build a Class-40 road which can carry medium tanks and artillery through the strategic Chumbi valley which abuts India and Bhutan to a tri-junction point which is the very tip of the Chumbi dagger which is dangerously close to a bottleneck encompassing Nepal, Bangladesh and Bhutan.

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Two issues arise from this illegal and unauthorised activity – the intended road would transgress Bhutanese territory at Doklam and its destination, the tri-junction, is also disputed.

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For New Delhi, Indian troops have gone to the aid of a neighbour, Bhutan, because the intended construction of a strategic road from Lhasa-Shigaste to Yadong in the Chumbi valley towards the disputed tri-junction would confer profound strategic military advantage on the PLA.

<snip>

Given the evidence of the recent face-offs, it is unlikely the current stand-off will escalate into a shooting match at Doklam where the PLA is hemmed in by two ridge lines of the Chumbi valley occupied by Indian and Bhutanese troops. Doklam is 40 km from Yadong which is the PLA logistic base.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ArjunPandit » 10 Jul 2017 22:33

ramana wrote:The three ministers are in official capacity. What incapacity is Rahul Gandhi meeting Chinese ambassador?

And what about Shiva Shankar Menon. Has he lost his mind? He is supposed to be a professional not a party hack.

He's the chinese maal of india, requesting them not to ban pokemon and pogo

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby DrRatnadip » 10 Jul 2017 23:03

http://m.timesofindia.com/india/border- ... 531400.cms

Border standoff: Why Bhutan will not ditch India

BEIJING: Bhutan is unlikely to enter into a compromise and accept China's offer to ditch India in exchange for settling border problem. The reason goes beyond India-Bhutan relations. It involves Thimphu's fears that Chinese troops may proceed further to cut off the country's main thoroughfare connecting the capital.
"Bhutan will never go behind India's back. It has as much at risk from the Chinese incursion in Doklam plateau as India," a Bhutanese analyst said while requesting anonymity.


"If Chinese troops claim the disputed area, including Doklam, they will be in control of the high mountain ridges. This will put our Haa, Paro and Thimphu valleys within China's artillery range," he said. Forward movement of Chinese troops will make them capable of cutting off the 165 km road from Thimphu, the capital, to Phuentsholing city which is the gateway for import of food and other materials from India, he said.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby g.sarkar » 10 Jul 2017 23:06

Forgive Pappu. Fear of Sugarland is making him get diarrhea from both ends. Thus the verbal diarrhea that we see.
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 10 Jul 2017 23:13

https://thewire.in/155911/bhutan-china- ... portunity/
The Bhutan Stand-Off Is an Opportunity, Not a Threat -- Prem Shankar Jha

It takes out of the world IQ to declare that China is in a position to deliver a crushing blow to India @ Doklam. Every paragraph could be challenged but why waste time.
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby VinodTK » 10 Jul 2017 23:13

shiv wrote:
Aha. You have not seen my latesht veidieo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IXlLdtKIxQ


Thanks Shiv very good

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ArjunPandit » 10 Jul 2017 23:21

India will burn itself if it creates trouble over tibetans
Mirchi lagi, aandhra wali....Only beneficiary in china from this conflict is Global times which is getting increased hits :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Bart S » 10 Jul 2017 23:38

ArjunPandit wrote:India will burn itself if it creates trouble over tibetans
Mirchi lagi, aandhra wali....Only beneficiary in china from this conflict is Global times which is getting increased hits :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Remember 'Comical Ali' from the 2nd Iraq War?

Looks like the PRC has a whole horde of them :rotfl:

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby sanjaykumar » 10 Jul 2017 23:46

Do Chinese have any cultural concept of dignity and restraint?

They are debasing themselves while the world looks on. I must say their reaction serves Indian foreign policy/propaganda very well.

The Chinese will have to launch a small military action to save face.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby sudarshan » 10 Jul 2017 23:52

They are so used to blustering and bullying smaller neighbors, as part of their shock and awe against them. The sheer weight of China is indeed intimidating to countries like South Korea or the Philippines. They thought they could do the same with India, and it is of course largely India's fault for being pliant and docile for so long. But now the shock and awe is turning out to be counter-productive. Their media is making it very hard for them to back away gracefully, and India, by being silent (excellent strategy, by the way), isn't giving them any hint of how to back off. If India had retaliated with fury and bluster, the Chinese could have been the "magnanimous big guy," by saying "let's both back off, shall we?" But India is keeping her cool and provoking further bluster from them. The more they bluster, the deeper the hole gets, and India isn't getting in the hole with them.

Inscrutable Chinese, indeed. Right now they must be at the stage where they'd give away a fortune to get some insight into the minds of Modi or Doval.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Suraj » 11 Jul 2017 00:02

From RaGa no less . At the escape velocity of Jooopiter.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ArjunPandit » 11 Jul 2017 00:08

Bart S wrote:
ArjunPandit wrote:India will burn itself if it creates trouble over tibetans
Mirchi lagi, aandhra wali....Only beneficiary in china from this conflict is Global times which is getting increased hits :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:


Remember 'Comical Ali' from the 2nd Iraq War?

Looks like the PRC has a whole horde of them :rotfl:

No i dont, but it amuses me to no end that this is the outcome of investing so much money into their think tanks who claim themselves to be Sun Tzu (not sure he was any good in first place )

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby schinnas » 11 Jul 2017 01:06

Chinese are following Sun Tsu maxim - Appear strong when you are weak and appear weak when you are strong. They know that they are not militarily strong in the Himalayas to take on India. That explains lot of their hot air and hurling insults. It is time, India pushes them back from all tactically advantageous territory in the Himalayas they have managed to illegaly encroach upon. Silently provoke them into firing first bullet, record it and then give a decisive hard slap at multiple locations at the same time. Enforce immediate naval blockade on Chinese trade to ensure that they get punished economically for daring to insult us.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ramana » 11 Jul 2017 01:22

pankajs wrote:https://thewire.in/155911/bhutan-china-modi-border-opportunity/
The Bhutan Stand-Off Is an Opportunity, Not a Threat -- Prem Shankar Jha

It takes out of the world IQ to declare that China is in a position to deliver a crushing blow to India @ Doklam. Every paragraph could be challenged but why waste time.


Rebut him on Twitter.

Rohitvats a couple of tweets will quench his agnan.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Bart S » 11 Jul 2017 01:28

ArjunPandit wrote:
Bart S wrote:
Remember 'Comical Ali' from the 2nd Iraq War?

Looks like the PRC has a whole horde of them :rotfl:

No i dont, but it amuses me to no end that this is the outcome of investing so much money into their think tanks who claim themselves to be Sun Tzu (not sure he was any good in first place )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfAeMtcURg0

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby khan » 11 Jul 2017 01:47

pankajs wrote:https://thewire.in/155911/bhutan-china-modi-border-opportunity/
The Bhutan Stand-Off Is an Opportunity, Not a Threat -- Prem Shankar Jha

It takes out of the world IQ to declare that China is in a position to deliver a crushing blow to India @ Doklam. Every paragraph could be challenged but why waste time.


This is a clearly very supplicative article (to Chinese interests).

But it does raise one interesting point which helps explain why the Chinese are so apoplectic about the whole thing.

And the point is, what if India did this uninvited? What if there was some deal between China and Bhutan (or elements in the Bhutanese Government) and India just walked in and kicked China out - uninvited?

This might explain why the Chinese are so pissed. They might think they have some right to be there (beyond their BS territorial claims).

And Bhutan like a kid with its hand caught in the cookie jar - is quietly sitting in the corner hoping no-one notices that they violated the "Friendship treaty" with India.

ADDED LATER: This also explains Global Times exhortations for Bhutan to step out of India's shadow blah blah blah, India's studied silence and Bhutan's silence on the issue

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 11 Jul 2017 02:44

Another pro-China fart ...

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/commen ... 34685.html
Faceoff may boomerang -- Pravin Sawhney

Some subtle and some not so subtle batting for China. If you notice both this fart and the prior one from the Wire refer to 1962 but there is no reference to Nathu la or the 1987 faceoff. Again, if you wanted to scare Indian it makes no sense to only talk of 1962. He is counting 2+2 = 22.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby pankajs » 11 Jul 2017 02:51

BTW, another mistake the duffer pappu made was he / opposition should have asked for a briefing from GOI before meeting Bhutan/China officials. You don't know you own country's stance / version of events then on what basis you talk to foreigners?

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Prem » 11 Jul 2017 03:39

ramana wrote:
pankajs wrote:https://thewire.in/155911/bhutan-china-modi-border-opportunity/
The Bhutan Stand-Off Is an Opportunity, Not a Threat -- Prem Shankar Jha
Rohitvats a couple of tweets will quench his agnan.


Yeh Jha abbi Tukk Zinda hai. He used to be the most popular with Paki after Kuldip Nayyar and then got replaced by MC Ayer. But this one take the cake , Cream and candle.

Replying to @SheilaDikhsit @PMOIndia
Chinese envoy invited Rahulji to Beijing to discuss the regional security concerns with Chinese Prez.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby surinder » 11 Jul 2017 04:17

schinnas wrote:Chinese are following Sun Tsu maxim - Appear strong when you are weak and appear weak when you are strong. They know that they are not militarily strong in the Himalayas to take on India. That explains lot of their hot air and hurling insults.


That is what I think too is happening. They are weak, so they are using harsh and strong language. I think they realize that they are weak. Dissing the enemy derisively their form of verbal combat. India should externally respond with an appearance of careless derision.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ArjunPandit » 11 Jul 2017 04:18

Prem wrote:
ramana wrote:


Yeh Jha abbi Tukk Zinda hai. He used to be the most popular with Paki after Kuldip Nayyar and then got replaced by MC Ayer. But this one take the cake , Cream and candle.

Replying to @SheilaDikhsit @PMOIndia
Chinese envoy invited Rahulji to Beijing to discuss the regional security concerns with Chinese Prez.

Came across this MoFo recently only. Had pasted his biography few pages back only. If you analyze the oscilation patterns of this lungs, you will notice a rhythm speaking I hate India


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