Neutering & Defanging Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Aditya_V » 02 Oct 2014 10:54

I think the Plaaf should bomb HK, Shanghai and Beijing to show the authority of the Chinese Govt and start a new Red diary campaign.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 02 Oct 2014 15:41

Dalai Lama in ‘informal’ talks to return to Tibet - AFP, ToI
DHARAMSALA: The Dalai Lama indicated on Thursday that he was in informal talks with China to make a historic pilgrimage to Tibet after more than half a century in exile.

The Tibetan spiritual leader said he had "made clear" his desire to undertake the pilgrimage to a sacred mountain in his homeland to contacts in China, including retired Communist Party officials.

"It's not finalized, not yet, but the idea is there," the 79-year-old told AFP in an interview in Dharamshala, where he lives.

"Not formally or seriously, but informally... I express, this is my desire, and some of my friends, they are also showing their genuine interest or concern," he added.

"Recently, some Chinese officials, for example the deputy party secretary in the autonomous region of Tibet, he also mentioned the possibility of my visit as a pilgrimage to that sacred place."


The Dalai Lama has long expressed a desire to visit the Wutai Shan mountain, considered sacred by Tibetans.

His comments on Thursday come amid speculation of an easing of tensions with China, which in the past has decried the spiritual leader as a "splittist" and accused him of seeking secession.

The exiled monk, who retired from politics in 2011, says he is fighting for greater autonomy for Tibetan areas.

Last month, an anonymous blog post appeared briefly on a Chinese-run website describing the Dalai Lama's return in positive terms, before it was taken down.

It was seen by some experts as an indication that China's tone may be softening — a view shared by the Dalai Lama.

On Thursday, he welcomed recent comments by China's President Xi Jinping on the importance of Buddhism in Chinese society and said he was "optimistic" about the current leadership in Beijing.

"This is something very new, a Communist Party leader saying something about spirituality," said the exiled leader, who recently described Xi as "more open-minded" than his predecessors.

The Dalai Lama, who enjoyed a close relationship with Xi's father before he fled Tibet in 1959
after a failed uprising, also praised the Chinese leader for a crackdown on official corruption.

"These things show he (Xi) is approaching these problems more realistically," said the Dalai Lama.

But he criticised China's treatment of dissidents, including the Uighur writer Ilham Tohti, who was recently sentenced to life in prison for separatism.

"There is some arrest of dissidents — some intellectual people — such as very recently a Uighur writer," he said.

"These people firstly are not anti-government, not anti-people. So I think not necessary... I think actually long run, harmful."

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 03 Oct 2014 15:36

Japan-U.S. interim report won’t include collective self-defense - Japan Times
A planned interim report on updating the Japan-U.S. defense cooperation guidelines won’t reflect the Abe administration’s recent decision to lift the self-imposed ban on collective defense, informed sources said.

Japan and the United States plan to compile the interim report next Wednesday when their senior foreign policy and defense officials meet in Tokyo.

The Abe administration in July changed the governmental interpretation of the Constitution to allow Japan to exercise its right to collective self-defense, or aiding an ally that comes under military attack.

The administration plans to submit legislation necessary to exercise the right, including a bill aimed at revising the Self-Defense Forces law, to the Diet next year.

As details of the legislation remain to be worked out, the Japanese and U.S. governments agreed that how the SDF will support U.S. forces in collective defense will not be spelled out in the interim report, the sources said Thursday.

The two countries plan to adopt new defense cooperation guidelines by the end of the year.

The interim report is expected to lay out how the SDF and U.S. forces will cooperate
in cases ranging from armed conflicts to so-called gray-zone situations that do not involve military attacks.

The report is also expected to cover Japan-U.S. cooperation on space and cyberspace security and U.N.-led peacekeeping operations.

The guidelines were last revised in 1997. In October last year, Japan and the U. S. agreed to update them in order to deal with new challenges, including China’s increasing maritime assertiveness as well as international terrorism.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 04 Oct 2014 19:13

China test fires 10,000-km range nuclear missile that can reach most of US and European cities - PTI, ET
China has flight tested an upgraded version of its 10,000-km range Dongfeng missile which could reach most of the US and European cities, days ahead of its October 1st National Day to demonstrate its nuclear capability, media reports said.

The People's Liberation Army, (PLA) launched a Dongfeng-31B on September 25 from the Wuzhai Missile and Space Test Centre also known as the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Centre in Shanxi province, Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post reported quoting US media reports.

The first flight test of an upgraded mobile intercontinental ballistic missile in the lead-up to National Day aimed to show the world that China was reinforcing its nuclear deterrent, it quoted military experts as saying.

The DF-31B is an upgraded version of the DF-31A and the launch was at least the second time the PLA's Second Artillery Corps had tested a DF-31 missile in the past three months.

In late July, the PLA conducted a flight test of a DF-31A in what was the fourth known flight test of that missile in two years, it said.

The DF-31 system has an estimated range of nearly 10,000 kms, enough to deliver a nuclear warhead to the capitals of Europe or the west coast of the US.

The mobile missiles are designed specifically for travel over rugged terrain and in difficult road conditions.

Xu Guangyu, a Beijing-based retired PLA major general said the strategic aim of the test is "Beijing just wants to increase China's military might and its nuclear strategic threat. It's not really targeting the US or other countries".

"China needs to conduct intensive weapons tests and military drills because the (US-led build-up) now in the Asia-Pacific area is not good for Beijing," he told the Post.

Earlier state media reports said [b]Beijing would roll out the Dongfeng-41, a system designed to have a range of 12,000 kms
, allowing it to hit targets anywhere in the US.

Xu said the US' "pivot to Asia" and its plan to send 60 per cent of its military force to the region by 2020 had put pressure on Beijing to step up missile development.

"It's normal for China to develop other, more advanced missiles given that a weapon cycle is between five and seven years, and the DF-31A was delivered to the PLA in 2006," he said.

Macau-based military expert Antony Wong Dong said it was hard to tell the difference between the DF-31A and DF-31B, but the upgraded version might have better performance.

"The DF-31A was designed to carry three warheads. I think the new DF-31B is possibly a multi-warhead version with higher accuracy," Wong said.


In January, PLA Daily posted 17 photos of a live drill of the DF-31A on its website, the first public glimpse of the advanced weapon.

The PLA also tested a hypersonic vehicle, the Wu-14, on August 7 in Shanxi. The launch failed despite a successful first test in January, the Post report said.


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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby rsingh » 04 Oct 2014 20:59

I think we need a dedicated thread for revolutionin HK. It is the trailer of bigger things to come and we are completly ingoring it. More then 40millions of chinese visit HK every year. Chinese can manuplate media but they can not put black ribbon on visitors. This is big thing and we have to discuss it.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby vivek.rao » 05 Oct 2014 02:17

http://online.wsj.com/articles/hong-kon ... 1412255663

The protests now roiling Hong Kong are about democracy. But there is an undercurrent of another, much older tension: Between Christianity and Communist China.

Hong Kong's churches are playing a quiet but important role in the city's protests, offering food and shelter to demonstrators, with some organisers and supporters citing Christian values as inspiration in their fight.

At least three of the founders of the main protest groups are Christians, including the 17-year-old leader of a student group and two of the three heads of Occupy Central. One of the group's founders is a minister and the city's former Catholic bishop is a vocal supporter.

Churches are deeply embedded into the fabric of Hong Kong society, in contrast to mainland China, where religion is strictly controlled. The Catholic Church established a foothold in the former colony in 1841, the very year that the British wrested control of Hong Kong island from China, with other denominations following soon after. Christian institutions have since become part of Hong Kong's civil sensibility.
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby vivek.rao » 06 Oct 2014 20:15

The anti-India pincer strategy: Here's why Pakistan and China are raising the stakes on the border

Actually, a new disturbing trend is visible of late. Incursions have become an unannounced tenet of China’s India policy just as infiltration has been for Pakistan for decades. Future events will have to be watched closely to determine whether there is any truth in this supposed trend which may be described as I-2 pincer diplomacy of China and Pakistan with respect to India – the ‘I’ meaning Incursions for China and Infiltration for Pakistan.
This is going to be the biggest security and strategic challenge for the Narendra Modi government in the near future – the I-2 pincer diplomacy of China and Pakistan where India’s two known bug bears act against it, working in tandem. Now considering that the past often foretells the future, let us see how the recent past is foretelling the future.
Representational image. AFPRepresentational image. AFP
Once again, you have guns booming on the Line of Control (LoC) as Pakistani troops are wantonly and brazenly provoking the Indian soldiers. It is an open secret that Pakistani troops open unprovoked fire at the LoC and the International Border to give cover to its jihadi foot soldiers as they infiltrate into India.
Then you have a statement from Pervez Musharraf, the former President and army chief of Pakistan who was also the chief architect of the Kargil War of 1999, wherein he was quoted as saying on Sunday that India should not test Pakistan army’s patience. General Musharraf blamed the Indians for ratcheting up tensions along the LoC.
Now that Pakistan is once again making the LoC a livewire, does it mean that another Chinese incursion is in the offing?
Well, this may well be the case. This is precisely what this writer had said while warning about China and Pakistan working against Indian strategic interests in tandem by way of I-2 pincer diplomacy – ‘I’ standing for Incursions for China and for Infiltration for Pakistan.
Let us read the Chinese tea leaves and extend the logic further.
That China and Pakistan are all-weather allies who describe their bilateral relationship as higher than mountains, deeper than oceans, sweeter than honey is well known. But perhaps what has not been adequately focused, from the Indian point of view, is a steady build up in their military-oriented bilateral ties.
This is India’s worst national security nightmare: having to deal with two external enemies in a war situation simultaneously. Also China and Pakistan have already laid a firm framework towards this end. It has been several years since China has already taken sides in the India-Pakistan dispute, evident from the Chinese policy of issuing staples visas to Indians domiciles in Jammu and Kashmir (and Arunachal Pradesh) while Beijing issues regular visas to residents of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK).

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 07 Oct 2014 15:00

US faces greatest military challenge from China: Bobby Jindal - PTI, ET
Indian-American Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, a potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate, has lashed out at Chinese military buildup, saying the US today faces the greatest military challenge from China.

"In terms of traditional military power, the greatest challenge facing the United States is China. For the past nearly 20 years, China has engaged in a massive military buildup," Jindal said in a major policy paper in defense which he co-authored with the former US Senator Jim Talent.

In the paper presented yesterday, he outlined his vision, that he says will save the American military from damage done by President Barack Obama.

"The Chinese regime, for nationalistic, political, and economic reasons, is seeking a sphere of influence -- a kind of hegemony -- in the East and South China Seas, and wants the option of using coercion to achieve their ends," Jindal said.

"For that reason, they are purposefully and relentlessly developing the capabilities to exclude American forces from the region," said Jindal, the first Indian-American Governor of a US State.

"The primary target of China's military buildup is the US," he said. "It would be wrong to view China as necessarily an enemy of the United States. China is a rising power with a proud history; it is natural that the Chinese would seek to dominate their region of the world," he added.

"The means by which the Chinese will use to achieve it are unacceptable to the US and its allies. America is bound by treaty to defend Japan and the Philippines, and has guaranteed de facto the territorial integrity of Taiwan," he said.

The United States, he said, has a vital interest in freedom of trade and travel for all nations in the East and South China Seas, and in the peaceful resolution of disputes among nations according to international norms, he added.

"Certainly, the Chinese understand that their national ambitions are bringing them into conflict with the United States; that is precisely why they are building up their power -- and doing so at such a rapid pace," Jindal said.

Jindal said the Obama Administration's 'Asia Pacific Rebalance' initiative is failing for lack of power.

"Nowhere else is the decline in America's military more dangerous than in East Asia," he said, adding the US simply does not have the forces to shift into the region and our potential allies and partners are reluctant to align themselves given America's growing weakness.

"The balance of power in East Asia is changing; China will be, if it is not already, dominant in the region. If that happens, the 'rebalance' policy may prove very dangerous -- it effectively makes the US the obstacle to China's ambitions without effectively deterring them, thereby creating an environment of rising tension and possible conflict,"he said.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Yagnasri » 07 Oct 2014 16:06

Note that this so called "Indian American" Jindal not mentioned India at all in his paper and was conspicuousness in his effort not to contact NM during NM visit to US. This person is a serious EJ and even the present Hong Kong agitations are also triggered by EJ actions as per the reports. China is going to be targeted for "harvest of soles" soon if not already being done.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby A_Gupta » 07 Oct 2014 16:23

Brahma Chellaney tweet:
Brahma Chellaney ‏@Chellaney 1h1 hour ago

No deterrent effect—India's response to border provocations is so ineffectual that Pakistan and China feel emboldened to escalate their acts

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 07 Oct 2014 17:09

Regionalism with Chinese Characteristics - William Choong, Straits Times
IN recent months, China has been lining up its own franchise of multilateral organisations in Asia.

Speaking in May, President Xi Jinping told delegates at a security summit in Shanghai that Asia's problems should be solved by Asians. The Conference on Interaction and Confidence Building Measures (CICA) is a group of more than 20 mostly Asian countries. Japan and the U.S. were observers but not full participants at CICA.

In September, China invited the defence ministers of South Korea, North Korea and Japan to attend the Xiangshan Forum (XF) in November.

When the XF last held its meeting in November 2012, it mostly involved defence scholars. Chinese defence officials plan to transform the event into a high-end security and defence forum. In essence, this would present the XF as the Chinese analogue to the Shangri-La Dialogue, an annual meeting of defence ministers held in Singapore.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 07 Oct 2014 19:55

Strategic Insights: The Dragon in the Tropics: China's Military Expansion into the Western Hemisphere - Dr. Jose de Arimateia da Cruz - Strategic Studies Institute
A prosperous and stable China will not be a threat to any country. It will only be a positive force for world peace.
Vice President Xi Jinping, 2012

Despite the fact that Latin America has been an area of U.S. influence since 1823 with the establishment of the Monroe Doctrine, the region has been always relegated to an afterthought by U.S. foreign policymakers. Latin America, as J. D. Gordon stated, “has largely remained a policy backwater for the United States, with America manifesting little by way of strategy toward the region, when it in fact noticed it at all.”1 This benign neglect posture by U.S. foreign policymakers has tremendous geopolitical and national security implications for the homeland in the 21st century.

By neglecting Latin America, the United States has opened a door for external powers to fill the political vacuum left by the U.S., particularly antagonistic nations to U.S. hegemony in the region, such as Iran, Russia, and the People’s Republic of China (PRC). These countries have quickly positioned themselves as an alternative to the lack of political interest on the part of the United States. Within the context of Latin American politics, the Chinese presence in the Western Hemisphere presents a new alignment of governments that have nurtured an anti-American foreign policy sentiment such as Bolivia, Ecuador, Argentina, Venezuela, Nicaragua, and Brazil. In fact, China has entered into bilateral agreements with each of these Latin American countries. Those nations, while economically tied to the U.S. market, have recently taken a more confrontational position vis-à-vis the United States, thanks to their new foreign policy alignment with the PRC. While the U.S. presence in the region is either declining or nonexistent, China’s involvement is on the rise. Even former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton noted that China is making “disturbing” gains in the region.2

China’s “Ya-Fei-La” or “Asia-Africa-Latin America” plan was conceived during the Mao-era “in a movement to promote developing country solidarity.”3 However, China’s first official policy paper on Latin America was not issued until November 2008. In this policy paper entitled “China’s Policy Paper on Latin America and the Caribbean,” the Chinese Government officially stated that its objectives toward Latin America and the Caribbean was to boost “mutual visits by defense and military officials of the two sides as well as personnel exchanges.” Additionally, the Chinese government wants to expand “professional exchanges in military training, personnel training, and peacekeeping.”4 According to David Shambaugh, contributing to peacekeeping operations is part of China’s global security. In fact, China now ranks as the 16th largest national contributor of personnel to peacekeeping operations, and it is the first among permanent members of the United Nations (UN) Security Council.5 In addition to providing UN Peacekeeping Operations, China is also actively engaged in what they called “bilateral military-to-military or military diplomacy.”6 As part of its military diplomacy, China also maintains defense dialogues or strategic dialogues with 26 countries worldwide.7 Some of those countries are key players and strategic partners in Latin America including Brazil and Mexico.

Another important aspect of China’s "going out" strategy, “a strategy designed to systematically promote exports, gain access to needed resources, and accelerate the development of its multilateral enterprises,”8 is to train foreign officers at its military academies and institutions.9 For example, both the Chilean and Uruguayan armies have been sending their officers to study at the Defense Studies Institute in Changping since 1999 and 2009, respectively.10 Also, as part of its military diplomacy, China has conducted military exercises with several Latin American countries. In November 2010, Chinese military personnel “participate[d] with 50 Peruvians in the humanitarian exercise Angel de la Paz (Angel of Peace), including deployment to the village of Villa Maria del Trunfo to perform medical services for the local population.”11

David Shambaugh reports that, as part of China’s going out strategy, China is “becoming a major seller of weapons abroad, ranking fourth internationally in 2010, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.”12 There are two reasons China has created a niche for its weapons in Latin America. First, is the rise of the pink tide in Latin America between 1998 and 2009 when leftists leaders, many hostile to the United States, won elections in Venezuela (1998), Chile (2000), Brazil (2002), Argentina (2003), Uruguay (2004), Bolivia (2005), Nicaragua (2006), Peru (2006), Ecuador (2007), Honduras (2007), Paraguay (2008), and El Salvador (2009). Coming to power in the aftermath of the implementation of structural adjustment programs in Latin America by the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, leaders of the pink tide revolution formed an ideological block critical of the U.S. Washington Consensus. This ideological bloc led by Venezuela is known as the Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas (ALBA). As J. D. Gordon argues:

Through its auspices, authoritarians bent on expansion and collectivism has carried out a massive propaganda campaign against the U.S. and its regional allies in order to undermine their legitimacy, while promoting socialism and systematic economic redistribution at home.13

Those regimes’ antagonistic political posture toward the United States and their inability to acquire Western military technology have led them to look to Chinese equipment.14 According to R. Evan Ellis, “the first major breakthrough for the PRC in making military sales to Latin America was arguably Venezuela’s 2008 announcement that it would purchase K-8 (Karakorum) aircraft, co-developed with Pakistan.” {Why is China maintaining this Pakistani facade?} 15 Not only Venezuela, but also Bolivia, purchased Chinese K-8s “after the United States blocked it from acquiring a comparable aircraft from the Czech Republic.”16

The second reason for Latin American nations to purchase Chinese military equipment is the price. Chinese military equipment—compared to its competitors, the United States, Russia, England, and France—is relatively cheap, therefore providing an alternative venue to Latin American nations to acquire needed military hardware. Between 2006 and 2009, China exported conventional military weapons to several countries including Argentina, Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Mexico, Peru, and Venezuela.17

Since Deng Xiaoping and the pragmatic moderators came to power in China in 1979, thereby joining communism and capitalism—otherwise known as the Beijing Model18—China has been striving to achieve its rightful place among great powers in the international system. Whether the United States likes it or not, China will be a great power to reckon with in the future. While China’s rise to power is inevitable, it is still not a high priority for Washington. Yet, China’s rise and expansion in the Western Hemisphere presents a series of critical national security concerns that cannot be ignored by the United States and the U.S. Army. In fact, in the U.S. War College Key Strategic Issue List 2014-15, the Western Hemisphere concerns specifically identify Chinese soft power and its political-economic-security-informational engagement as a priority.19

One national security issue for the United States and the Army is the footprint expansion of the Chinese military in Latin America. China’s military partnership with members of the ALBA coalition raises a number of concerns. First, China does not differentiate among its customers. China’s primary goal is to establish a commercial footprint within the region. Therefore, military weapons sold to some countries in Latin America could end up in the wrong hands. Venezuela is a good example. Previously under Hugo Chavez and now under Nicolás Maduro, Venezuela has been building its military capability. Since Venezuela has had some border scrimmages with some of its neighbors, an argument could be made that it is in Venezuela’s interests to arm itself. The concern is that Venezuela has had a cozy relationship with Colombia’s Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia—Ejército del Pueblo (FARC-EP or FARC) narco-terrorists as well as a strategic partnership with Russia, Iran, and Hezbollah. Also, as pointed out by Ellis in his article, “The United States, Latin America, and China: A Triangular Relationship,” China’s willingness to sell low-cost arms to countries such as Venezuela has undermined the U.S. ability to work with its allies to impose arms-purchase controls on certain regimes.20

Another major concern regarding China’s expansion in Latin America is its support for authoritarian regimes. For much of the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, Latin American nations were under the stronghold of bureaucratic-authoritarian regimes. Democracy returned to Latin American with the “third wave” of democratization in the late-1980s when the militaries returned to their barracks. China’s expansionist strategic policy in Latin America could reverse the accomplishments of almost 3 decades of fragile yet democratic values.

As part of its “going out” strategic policy. China today is more interconnected with the world than ever. While these increased human connections are valued in the globalized world of the 21st century, it also represents a national security concern. Ellis argued that with these increased human contacts, “Chinese and Latin American criminal and terrorist organizations will interact in ways difficult to anticipate, and often outside the knowledge or control of the Chinese state.”21 As crime becomes more sophisticated and international, drug traffic organizations (DTOs) become the “black swans” of the globalized world. They are hard to find, but they do exist, and, once discovered, it is too late to assess their damage to society.

While Chinese President Xi Jinping sees a prosperous and stable China not as a threat to any country, but rather as a positive force for world peace, others see China’s peaceful rise as a matter of concern and a danger to the international system. China will not dominate the world. However, it will be a rising superpower that may not always play by the rules of the game, especially if it sees those rules as a creation of the Western world and an attempt to keep China in its place.

The U.S. Government and the Army can do much to make sure that as China rises within the international system it respects international norms, values, and institutions and does not represent a threat to the Western Hemisphere. The United States should show the region that it is concerned about China’s influence and it cares about the direction and future of the Western Hemisphere. But, actions speak louder than words or pseudo speeches. Recently, President Barack Obama met with 50 African heads of state in Washington, DC, and announced that the United States would provide $33 billion in investments and vowed to increase electricity to 60 million African households.22 While such action is commendable toward a continent that has suffered much too long, no such plan of action exist for Latin America. The United States could show good will and confidence-building toward Latin America by pursuing the same economic strategy to win the “hearts and minds” of some leftist regimes turned China’s allies. In fact, some observers believe that the Obama administration organized the U.S.-African Leaders Summit in a “desperate effort to catch up with China” who has become Africa’s top business partner.”23 The U.S. Government and the Army could also expand the Colombia Plan, a counternarcotic offensive, to include other nations that are also impacted by the cancer of drug trafficking in the region. In fact, it would be wise on the part of the U.S. Government and the Army to create a Latin American Plan, similar to the Marshall Plan created in the aftermath of World War II to rebuild Europe, with a military focus to the region: surveillance, joint military exercises, weapons transfer, counternarcotics, police training, etc.

China’s expansion in the Western Hemisphere has focused on commodities trade and natural resources needed for its industrial expansion. The U.S. Government could propose a new plan to increase loans and investments in the region. As it has been pointed out, “without the more than $40 billion from China Development Bank, for example, it is doubtful whether Venezuela’s socialist regime could have survived the 2012 national elections and thus continued to partner with Iran, buy Russian arms, and export revolution to its neighbors.”24

Much like a Greek tragedy, China’s rise will be one of the greatest dramas of the 21st century. Whether China will play by the rules of the international system remains an open-ended question for Sino futurologists to answer. However, it is worth remembering the wisdom and foresight of Franklin Roosevelt in his attempt to create “a one-world system managed by cooperative great powers that would rebuild war-ravaged Europe, integrate the defeated states, and establish mechanisms for a security cooperation and expansive economic growth.”25 Roosevelt pleaded with Winston Churchill, who was adamantly opposed, that China be included as a permanent member of the UN Security Council. Roosevelt’s strategic thinking was simple. He wanted China as a friend because “in 40 or 50 years’ time, China might easily become a very powerful military nation.”26 Forty to 50 years’ time is upon us. China is changing the world, and the world is changing China. China will continue its peaceful rise. How China fits in with the international system depends how China is treated.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SSridhar » 08 Oct 2014 20:38

China builds military airstrip on disputed island, reports state media - Japan Times
Beijing has completed a runway for military aircraft on a South China Sea island also claimed by Vietnam and Taiwan, state-run media reported Tuesday.

The newly built facility stretches across Woody Island, part of the Paracel chain, China’s Xinhua news agency said.

Tensions between Beijing and Hanoi rose this year over Chinese construction and oil exploration at the Paracels.

The runway is Beijing’s latest physical assertion of control in the area, two years after it declared a city named Sansha centered on Woody Island — known as Yongxing in Chinese — to administer vast swaths of the South China Sea.

Vital international shipping routes run through the waters and the region is believed to house oil and gas deposits. Parts of the sea are also claimed by the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan.

Xinhua’s report gave few details but said the runway was 2,000 meters long, and indicated it would have military uses.

“With the completion and continued improvements to the runway on Yongxing, military aircraft can be based in the Paracels, and greatly improve Chinese defense capabilities in the Xisha and Nansha islands,” Xinhua said, using the Chinese names for the Paracels and Spratlys, a separate island chain.

Pictures posted with the report showed part of the airstrip surrounded by construction cranes and clear blue water.

China previously built a school on Woody Island for 40 children whose parents work there, state-run media said in June.

Beijing placed an oil rig in disputed waters near the Paracel islands in May, sparking deadly anti-Chinese riots in Vietnam.

Sansha hosts a military garrison and this year began setting up a patrol system intended in part to “safeguard national sovereign rights.” Expanded infrastructure and tourism are in the works, domestic media have reported.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby A_Gupta » 09 Oct 2014 06:51

China's counter-terrorism efforts:
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2014/10/08/al ... m-efforts/

Over the past few decades, there has been a dramatic shift in the way regional security is handled in Central Asia. After the Soviet collapse of 1991, the freshly independent Central Asian countries managed security through bilateral agreements with Russia. In 2001, counter-terrorism operations were turned into a multilateral effort when the SCO was created by China, Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Since then, China has not only been hosting training drills but also sharing equipment, resources, and military intelligence with SCO members. Letting armed forces from neighboring nations enter China’s tightly monitored borders to participate in the military drills speaks to how seriously Chinese President Xi Jinping is taking perceived threats to national and regional security as well as his commitment to becoming a regional leader in anti-terrorism efforts. In fact, at the SCO summit in Dushanbe, Tajikistan this past September, President Xi proposed that SCO members sign a convention to fight extremism in the region in exchange for China supplying US$5 billion for joint projects. In addition, the SCO is seeking to expand its reach by granting observer states, including Pakistan and India, full member status in the next few years.


It all sounded good, but then including Pakistan as a full member is going to doom this effort to failure.

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Postby SSridhar » 09 Oct 2014 09:58

China just overtook the US as the world's largest economy - ET
Sorry, America. China just overtook the US to become the world's largest economy, according to the International Monetary Fund. Chris Giles at the Financial Times flagged up the change. He'd also alerted us back in April this year that it was all about to happen.

Basically, the method used by the IMF adjusts for purchasing power parity, explained here. The simple logic is that prices aren't the same in each country: a shirt will cost you less in Shanghai than San Francisco, so it's not entirely reasonable to compare countries without taking this into account. Though a typical person in China earns a lot less than the typical person in the US, simply converting a Chinese salary into dollars underestimates how much purchasing power that individual, and therefore that country, might have. The Economist's Big Mac Index is a great example of these disparities.

So the IMF measures both GDP in market exchange terms, and in terms of purchasing power. On the purchasing power. On the purchasing power basis, China is overtaking the US right about now and becoming the world's biggest economy.

We've just gone past that cross-over on the chart below, according to the IMF. By the end of 2014, China will make up 16.48% of the world's purchasing-power adjusted GDP (or $17.632 trillion), and the US will make up just 16.28% (or $17.416 trillion).

It's not all sore news for the US. It'll be some time yet until the lines cross over in raw terms, not adjusted for purchasing power. By that measure, China still sits more than $6.5 trillion lower than the US, and isn't likely to overtake for quite some time.

But in terms of the raw market value of China's currency, it still has a long way to go.

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Postby vijaykarthik » 09 Oct 2014 12:07

http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/china-bu ... china-sea/

Pretty much on lines of what SSridhar has linked to.

So qn: how quickly will the new ADIZ be setup? Will it? If so, where? Or is it that they will perhaps elongate the existing ADIZ by a few 10-100 more kms? [That seems unlikely though. the current ADIZ I think also included the Ieodo rock and doesn't need to include more maritime areas, IMO]

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Postby Philip » 09 Oct 2014 19:11

Keep it up China! The flatulent windbags of Zhongnanhai led by arch gassifier XI Gins himself,is destroying China,which some time ago declared "war" against pollution.great to see how well the campaign is being conducted by XI Gins.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... hotel.html

Chinese ‘airpocalypse’ traps Brazilian footballers in hotel
Brazilian football stars including Neymar, David Luiz and Kaká are stranded in their Beijing hotel after a toxic ‘curtain of impurities’ envelops the Chinese capital

By Tom Phillips, Shanghai
09 Oct 2014

Some of the world’s most famous footballers have found themselves stranded inside a luxury Beijing hotel after China’s capital was swallowed up by a noxious haze of carcinogenic smog.

Members of Brazil’s seleção – including Barcelona’s £50m forward Neymar, Paris Saint-Germain’s David Luiz and former World Player of the Year Kaká – are in China for Saturday’s “Super Classic of the Americas” match against Argentina at Beijing’s Bird’s Nest stadium.

However, the footballers have chosen a bad week for their Chinese showcase.

Beijing issued an orange pollution alert – the second highest level - on Thursday as air quality plummeted to levels almost 18 times worse than those considered safe by the World Health Organisation.

Authorities blamed the dramatic spike in pollution on farmer’s burning straw. They closed motorways as visibility fell and advised residents to stay indoors.

“Hold the front page,” joked Xiao Zhazha, a user of Weibo, China’s Twitter-like microblog. “The Brazil and Argentina teams have come to Beijing to inhale drugs!”

Shocked at the state of Beijing’s skies, Brazilian football officials have ordered their players not to leave the five-star Intercontinental hotel apart from for brief afternoon training sessions. They are reportedly evaluating whether to continue training sessions at all.

“One of the pieces of advice that those responsible for pollution control give is that people should stay indoors and this is what we have done,” Rodrigo Lasmar, Brazil’s team doctor, was quoted as saying by the Estado de São Paulo newspaper.

“Our athletes stay inside the hotel and only go out for training. Out of every 24 hours, they spend 22 inside the hotel."

Pollution posed an “enormous” problem, added Mr Lasmar, listing health risks ranging “from the most simple things like allergies to the most serious things such as heart problems, blood pressure and circulation problems".

Earlier this year, China’s former health minister admitted that his country’s dangerously polluted skies were condemning up to 500,000 Chinese to early graves each year.

Brazilian sports journalists travelling with the seleção have been appalled by China’s latest “airpocalypse”.

“Absurd pollution once again," José Alberto Andrade, a Brazilian radio journalist, wrote on Twitter during Thursday's afternoon training session at which Neymar scored a goal and the Air Quality Index recordings near Tiananmen Square reportedly soared to 445.

The Folha de São Paulo newspaper claimed Brazil's players would face two “uncomfortable” opponents on Saturday: Argentina and the air.

“People are so worried about bad air quality that the most popular mobile phone apps in the country are those which measure pollution,” it added.

Alexandre Lozetti, another Brazilian journalist travelling with the team, complained Beijing had welcomed his country’s players with a toxic cocktail of “fog, smoke and dust”.

“Brazil’s players trained for nearly two hours under this curtain of impurities,” he reported, adding that medical staff were pumping the players full of water and constantly monitoring them to avoid any harm from the “thick mist”.

Mr Lasmar, the doctor, said Brazilian players were at less risk than Beijing’s permanent residents, for whom a day's breathing was the equivalent of smoking one and a half packets of cigarettes, Brazil’s Globo Esporte website reported.

“The most common problem among players is allergies – but so far nobody has shown any problems,” Mr Lasmar said, adding that he was keeping an eye out for any sign of eye, throat or ear problems related to the pollution.

However, speaking to Brazil’s Rádio Gaúcha one player admitted he had fallen victim to the Beijing smog.

Diego Tardelli, who plays for Brazilian side Atlético Mineiro, said he had picked up an allergy in his right eye. “Pollution is a problem here in China,” Mr Tardelli said.


You said it right Tardelli,China is the world's worst polluter,of the skies,the earth and the minds of its leaders.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby kmkraoind » 10 Oct 2014 12:41

Chinese fisherman shot dead in clash with S. Korea coastguard

Let see, how charged up Chinese citizens responds to it?

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ravip » 10 Oct 2014 23:53

Last time these Chinese had killed the coast guard officer by stabbing so it is equal equal now.

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Postby SSridhar » 11 Oct 2014 07:03

China-Russia strategic gas project takes off - Atul Aneja, The Hindu
China and Russia have begun implementing their $400 billion mega-gas deal — a strategic project that would allow Moscow to lower its dependence on the European market, and open prospects of tapping the growing energy demand in the Asia-Pacific, with Beijing as the star consumer.

Russia’s eastward shift

Russia’s eastward shift is anchored by the agreement to supply China 38 billion cubic meters of gas every year for 30 years. Gas flows will commence in 2018 after the lengthy Siberia Power Pipeline, having both Russian and Chinese components, gets completed.

On Thursday, the Chinese side froze the design and construction plan on its side for the pipeline, which will start in northeast China’s Heilongjiang province and terminate in Shanghai, China’s premier commercial and industrial hub. Construction is expected to start next year, covering three main segments before the pipeline terminates in Shanghai three years later.

Work on Russian segment of the pipeline, linking Siberia’s Kovyktin and Chayandin gas fields with the eastern port city of Vladivostok — a distance of 4,000 km — commenced last month.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has underscored the importance of the project by pointing out that Moscow and Beijing were now “launching a large-scale strategic project on the global level”.

Underscoring the energy deal’s larger geopolitical fall-out, he said that the “new gas pipeline will significantly strengthen [Russia’s] economic cooperation with the governments of the Asia-Pacific region and, first and foremost, with our key partner China”.

Siberia’s resources

The Russians are planning to invest $55 billion in building infrastructure and further exploring Siberia’s energy resources, to consolidate their outreach to Asia via China.

As Moscow prepares to receive Chinese Prime Minister, Li Keqiang, who has already commenced his official visit to Europe, Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has announced that the Russian energy giant Gazprom, and the China National Petroleum Company (CNPC) — the two lead players in the project — will receive “comprehensive assistance” from the two governments.

The two countries are already upscaling their energy ambitions by negotiating additional supplies, which could double proposed energy flows from Siberia along an additional western route. In a media briefing ahead of Mr. Li’s visit, Chinese Vice-Foreign Minister, Cheng Guoping, acknowledged that the energy departments from the two countries “are busy with negotiations on the construction of the West Route gas pipeline”.

Alexey Miller, the Chairman of Gazprom, has been quoted as saying that Russia plans to sign a 30-year gas supply contract with China via the western route. He pointed out that a contract for an annual supply for 30 billion cubic meters is being planned, but talks have also looked at “supplying 60 billion cubic meters or up to 100 billion cubic meters of gas to China”.

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Postby SSridhar » 11 Oct 2014 12:29

Vietnam Wants India to Help Reduce Dependence on China - Devirupa Mitra, New Indian Express
As Vietnam hopes to reduce its dependence on the Chinese economy, its Prime Minister will land on the Indian soil later this month, marking an unprecedented level of intensity of interaction between the two countries - three high-level visits in three consecutive months.

Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung will arrive at Bodh Gaya on October 28 and then a day later travel to Delhi for formal, substantive meetings.

It takes place just a month after President Pranab Mukherjee was on a four-day visit to the country on September 14. And in August, External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj had marked the Modi Government’s first engagement with Hanoi.

While defence ties had been a dominant theme earlier for both the countries, this time the mood is distinctly economic.

According to sources, Vietnamese PM’s visit will focus on building more bridges with India, so as to sources materials and reduce its dependence on China. The sector specifically that Hanoi is looking at India is textiles.

With tensions escalating over south china sea dispute, Vietnam had seen riots on its streets which targeted Chinese business, and forced it to pay compensation for their loss later. It is a very lopsided balance of trade, with Vietnam importing most of its raw materials from China, especially for its emerging garment sector. Apparently 50 percent of the raw yarn and fabrics are imported from Chinese firms.

With textiles now seen as an important export industry for Hanoi, it wants to reduce this Chinese leverage which could impact its economy.

“They are looking to import more polyester fabrics and yarns from India. Even though the timelines given by Chinese firms are shorter, they are looking at India to diversify for obvious reasons,” said sources.

Incidentally, Vietnam’s trade with China was around $50 bn in 2013, while with India it was about $8 bn. At the same time, growth in trade volume with India has been sharp - 30 per cent over last year. The visit also comes after India for the first time in a bilateral document with US talked about the South China sea dispute and the rule of law for a peaceful region, which led to a sharp retort from Beijing that no third-parties had any role.

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Postby SSridhar » 11 Oct 2014 19:31

Chinese paper blames US for Hong Kong protests - AP
A Chinese state-run newspaper is blaming an American organization for being behind the pro-democracy protests that have rattled Hong Kong.

In a commentary published on the front page of the Communist Party-run People's Daily's overseas edition Friday, the paper said Louisa Greve, a director of the National Endowment for Democracy, had met with Hong Kong protest leaders months ago to discuss the movement. The paper did not identify the source of the information.

The National Endowment for Democracy, a nonprofit group based in Washington, D C, was not immediately available for comment Saturday.

US State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said Friday that US officials ``categorically reject accusations that we are manipulating the activities of any person, group or political party in Hong Kong.''

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Pratyush » 14 Oct 2014 09:26

China's Prez Xi's visit: Why Modi and India came out on top

By Rajeev Srinivasan

A well written opinion piece by the author. That examines the recent meetings between Modi & Xi. The shadowboxing and the significance of Indian and PRC actions.

He believes that India came out on top on most of the measures. While doing so, he has presented certain interpretations that suggests that India came out on top on most of the issues. We will have to wait and see how the situation will evolve in the future.

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Postby Vriksh » 14 Oct 2014 10:13

I have the opposite conclusion. I think that India is being setup for a beating in the near future by a combination of acts of omission and commission orchestrated by PRC, USA, OIC with Pakistan, ISIS, Terror etc being the visible part of the game of poker. Fundamentally India civilization is the only model of development which does not take recourse to slavery and genocide. Given this it makes eminent sense for the established powers to ensure we don't displace them.

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Postby SSridhar » 14 Oct 2014 11:50

12 sentenced to death over Xinjiang attack
A Chinese court on Monday condemned 12 people to death and gave another 15 suspended death sentences in connection with a July attack in violence-racked Xinjiang, the regional government’s Tianshan portal said.

Thirty-seven civilians and 59 “terrorists” were killed and another 13 civilians wounded in the July 28 attack on a police station and government offices in Shache county, also known as Yarkand, according to state media.

The incident was the bloodiest in Xinjiang since rioting involving members of China’s Han majority and the mostly Muslim Uighur minority — the largest group in the region — left around 200 people dead in the capital Urumqi in 2009.

The sentences bring the number of death sentences passed for Xinjiang-related violence to almost 40 since June, with 21 executions publicly announced.

State broadcaster China Central Television ran footage from the sentencing on its Monday evening broadcast.

Access to information in Xinjiang is strictly controlled by the authorities and reports can often not be independently verified.

Beijing has blamed a series of recent violent attacks on separatists from Xinjiang. Rights groups accuse China’s government of cultural and religious repression which they say fuels unrest in the region bordering Central Asia. — AFP

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Postby SSridhar » 15 Oct 2014 17:20

China expresses concern over India's border road plan - Reuters
China on Wednesday expressed concern over India's plans to build a road along the remote eastern part of its border, saying it hoped India would not "further complicate" the festering disagreement.

In September, India eased curbs on building roads and military facilities within 100 km (62 miles) of the contested border in remote Arunachal Pradesh, so as to hasten construction of some 6,000 km (3,730 miles) of roads.

The move came as Chinese President Xi Jinping visited India, in a bid to defuse the deep distrust between both countries, despite growing trade and business ties.

A senior official in the Indian home ministry's border management department said the ministry was seeking cabinet approval for the road in Arunachal Pradesh and had preliminary support from the Prime Minister's office.

"The minister of state has conceived the idea of building a road that could be about 2,000 km (1,240 miles) long. The project has not been given Cabinet approval but the preliminary nod from the PMO has come," said the official who asked not to be named because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

"China has already spread their network of roads and rail network near the border. Whatever we make on our territory should not be a concern of China."

Asked about the road plan, Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Hong Lei said the government needed to "further verify the situation".

"The border issue between China and India is a problem left over by the colonial past. Both China and India need to work together to solve this problem," he told a daily news briefing.

"Before the border problem is solved, we hope the Indian side will not take any action that could further complicate the relevant issue, so as to preserve the current situation of peace and stability in the border area and create conditions for the final settlement of the border issue."

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Postby SSridhar » 15 Oct 2014 18:29

Japan, China aim for summit meeting -Yomiuri Shimbun
Japan and China have started up negotiations to realize a bilateral summit meeting on the sidelines of an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum meeting to be held in Beijing in November.

Junichi Ihara, director general of the Foreign Ministry’s Asian and Oceanian Affairs Bureau, made an informal visit to China during the recent three-day weekend and is believed to have coordinated with Chinese government officials for a Japan-China summit meeting. There are also moves to resume exchanges between Japanese and Chinese parliamentarians, which have been suspended over the past two years.

Ihara and other Japanese government officials entered China on Saturday, but the Japanese and Chinese governments have not revealed the details of the visit, such as whom they met. Regarding Ihara’s visit to China, Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida said at a press conference Tuesday that he’d “like to refrain from speaking about respective, individual activities.”

“I hope to keep putting importance on communications with China,” Kishida said, showing his willingness to realize a summit meeting between the two countries.

The behind-the-scenes negotiations between the Japanese and Chinese foreign affairs authorities stem from persistent efforts to create an atmosphere in which strained bilateral ties could be mended. Prime Minister Shinzo Abe attended a Chinese ballet featuring an ibis, a symbol for the two countries’ friendship, on Sept. 7 in Tokyo, where he had a conversation with Li Xiaolin, the president of the Chinese People’s Association for Friendship with Foreign Countries.

Li is a daughter of former Chinese President Li Xiannian, and is believed to have been close to Chinese President Xi Jinping since they were young children as Xi is also the son of a high executive of the ruling Communist Party. Toshihiro Nikai, chairman of the ruling Liberal Democratic Party’s General Council who has strong ties with China as well as being a senior member of Komeito, also attended the ballet, showing Japan’s hospitality toward Li.

Senkakus a challenge


The biggest challenge looming over the possibility of a Japan-China summit meeting is the territorial issue over the Senkaku Islands in Okinawa Prefecture. Beijing called on Tokyo to make concessions over the issue as a condition for the summit meeting, while Abe refused to set any conditions.

Regarding the Senkaku issue, Nikai said on a TV program on Sept. 9: “With the wisdom of respective countries, we should be engaged in diplomacy while putting aside the issue. In the course of such efforts, the energy to resolve the issue will come out. This is an issue of magna-nimity of the respective leaders.” Nikai expressed the idea that Japan and China should not just call for each other’s concessions, but also seek solutions that are acceptable for both countries.

As for the exchanges between Japanese and Chinese parliamentarians, Ichiro Aisawa, LDP member and chairman of the lower house’s Committee on Rules and Administration, and others visited China on Monday to have a meeting with Zhang Ping, vice chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress. During the meeting, they agreed to resume the Japan-China Parliamentary Exchange Commission, which has been suspended since the Japanese government nationalized three of the Senkaku Islands in 2012.

But some Japanese government officials believe that China’s move toward improving relations with Japan is because the country “may hope to save face as a host country of the APEC forum,” a source close to the government said.


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Postby Lekhraj » 16 Oct 2014 11:02

Vriksh wrote:I have the opposite conclusion. I think that India is being setup for a beating in the near future by a combination of acts of omission and commission orchestrated by PRC, USA, OIC with Pakistan, ISIS, Terror etc being the visible part of the game of poker. Fundamentally India civilization is the only model of development which does not take recourse to slavery and genocide. Given this it makes eminent sense for the established powers to ensure we don't displace them.


I also have simillar feeling. Is it only me thinking that November is going to hot on both the borders.

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Postby member_28714 » 16 Oct 2014 11:20

Vriksh wrote:I have the opposite conclusion. I think that India is being setup for a beating in the near future by a combination of acts of omission and commission orchestrated by PRC, USA, OIC with Pakistan, ISIS, Terror etc being the visible part of the game of poker. Fundamentally India civilization is the only model of development which does not take recourse to slavery and genocide. Given this it makes eminent sense for the established powers to ensure we don't displace them.


As long as we completely destroy Pakistan in the process, occupy it completely and not lose territory to China, any price is worth paying.

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Postby Yagnasri » 16 Oct 2014 12:37

+108

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Postby vijaykarthik » 16 Oct 2014 14:24

What a bunch of freaking b@stards.

Guess we need to learn more gumption. Feeling helpless and shameful here seeing the statements and nothing in return. When ever will the GoI or the appointed spokesperson speak up when Chinese does the same things in HK etc? When something happens in the Senkakus, in Vietnam, in Philippines?

From NW:

China-India-Pakistan: At today's Foreign Ministry press briefing, spokesman Hong said, "As a neighbor and friend of both Pakistan and India we hope the two sides can exercise restraint and stop trading fire and stick to dialogue and consultation, keep the situation in check and properly deal with the issues. They should work together to jointly safeguard the peace, stability and development of South Asia."

He said China is watching the situation between the two countries.

Pakistan reported 12 people had been killed over the past 10 days as India shells along the Line of Control (LoC) in the disputed Kashmir region and the working boundary that separates the two countries. India also said Pakistani shelling had killed and injured dozens of its nationals.

Comment: Compared to some past periods of increased cross-border shelling, the small number of casualties in a ten day period indicates much sound and fury signifying very little.

The Chinese policy of promoting stability in Asia underpins today's statement. Its content is similar to Chinese statements about stability on the Korean peninsula. It is ironic in that Chinese forces have increased tension with India by intruding into territory India has long occupied but China has claimed in the Himalayas. The message is that instability is acceptable if China causes it.


It surely doesn't need a NW report to see what the Chinese mean here. Time we got even tougher with China at least diplomatically. Start with Tibet and refuse recognition. That will be a great start.
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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby RajeshA » 16 Oct 2014 14:28

India needs to have a Tibet Regiment in the Indian Army which imparts military training to EVERY Tibetan and allows each one to serve in the Indian Army for some years. Let all Tibetans - men and women come from Tibet and all over the world and get first class training in warfare!

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby vijaykarthik » 16 Oct 2014 16:46

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/ ... me=topNews

Taiwan considered permanent armed ship in SCS.

Nicegrin

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Postby chaanakya » 16 Oct 2014 19:31

No one can give warning to India, Rajnath Singh says

NEW DELHI: No one can give a warning to India, Union home minister Rajnath Singh said on Thursday, a day after China objected to India building road along the border.

"No one can give a warning to India. India is a powerful nation now," the home minister said on the sidelines of the 30th Raising Day ceremony of the National Security Guards (NSG) in Manesar, on the outskirts Delhi.

"As far as China is concerned, both countries should sit together and discuss the issues," he said.


China on Wednesday said India should not take any action that may complicate the situation in disputed border areas.

The remarks come in the wake of comments made on Tuesday by India's minister of state for home affairs Kiren Rijiju that there were plans to construct a 2,000-km-long road along the international border between Mago-Thingbu in Tawang district and Vijaynagar in Changlang district of Arunachal Pradesh.



READ ALSO: ​China expresses concern over India's border road plan


Modi govt to promote civilian settlements along India-China border


India's concerns arise out of extensive road, rail air network developed by China in Tibet which could play pivotal in moving the troops and equipment at a greater speed in the rugged Himalayan region.

Besides extensive highways, China's rail network came close to Sikkim border and Beijing has announced plans to build a new rail network up to Nyingchi which is close to the border of Arunachal Pradesh.




(Prime Minister Narendra Modi with Chinese President Xi Jinping in New Delhi. File photo)


China has build about five airports in the Tibet region. Beijing asserts that the infrastructure development is part of efforts to develop remote parts of Tibet.

China claims Arunachal Pradesh as a part of Southern Tibet and disputes McMohan line.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby chaanakya » 16 Oct 2014 22:18

India TV reporting

65 New airport/airstrip will be constructed on India China Border. 18 posts will be augmented with additional troops to check intrusion by Chinese.

Meeting in MHA. NSA attended.

Details awaited.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby SaiK » 17 Oct 2014 01:10

^from chaanakyas' link

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby ramana » 17 Oct 2014 02:22

Meaning less comparison. Only sector wise comparison would be helpful.
I.e. what assets that China and India can bring to the confrontation.

China has other adversaries who are mere puppies.
India has Pakistan which is an active ally of China.

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Re: Managing Chinese Threat (09-08-2014)

Postby Varoon Shekhar » 17 Oct 2014 08:18

http://www.frontline.in/the-nation/ruff ... epage=true

What is the deal with this Noorani? Why shouldn't Modi and India raise the issue of Chinese border intrusions, since they are taking place just when the Chinese premiere is visiting? How is India in the wrong here? Is Noorani aware that China conducted a nuclear test when an Indian president visited in 1992? Is that 'ruffling feathers' too, or something even worse. These characters in the Indian media, astounding.


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