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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Prem » 20 Jan 2017 10:36

https://www.csis.org/analysis/us-india- ... ation-2017
U.S.-India Insight: Eight Ways to Strengthen U.S.-India Cooperation in 2017

Be more responsive to India’s agenda: In the short term, the United States will give more than it will receive in most areas of engagement. To the United States, cooperation with India is a bet on the future, both in terms of India’s expected economic and security role. With that in mind, we should ensure new programs and ideas are conceived based, at least partly, as a response to major Indian programs. The Modi government has a number of high-profile initiatives, such as “Make in India,” “Digital India,” “Smart Cities,” “Clean India,” and “Start-up India.” These initiatives are quite broad, and we can find meaningful ways to engage with each that simultaneously meets U.S. interests. On the other hand, presenting ideas to the government of India that are unattached to India’s major initiatives has sometimes created difficulties in achieving real momentum. This should not be a surprise given the limited capacity of an administration that has already committed its civil service to an ambitious development agenda. To facilitate existing initiatives and ensure smooth coordination, the United States should ensure that key U.S. government positions based in India are filled quickly.Build out a “long game” on trade: The United States has been unable to press India into taking a more proactive position on global trade matters. A range of obstacles lie in the way of a more proactive Indian stance on trade, not least of which is India’s large goods trade deficit—averaging 8 percent of GDP over the last five years. The United States should develop a long-term plan on trade engagement that will pair U.S. cooperation with incremental steps on the way to trade integration. In some ways, the U.S. “reset” initiated on defense trade after losing the Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft bid in 2011 is a model; it resulted in programs like the Defense Technology and Trade Initiative (DTTI) and has helped lead to growth in U.S. defense exports to India.
Engage more with the Finance Ministry: Many U.S. commercial policy issues lie within the Ministry of Finance’s domain. Yet our formal dialogues on trade and commercial matters have relatively little direct connectivity with the Finance Ministry, apart from the U.S.-India Financial & Economic Partnership (co-led by the U.S. Department of the Treasury).
Engage Indian state leaders: In the last 24 months, we saw an uptick in the number of U.S. programs that seek to engage India’s powerful state leaders. This effort should be deepened and widened. Ultimately, the power to achieve India’s development goals lies with India’s powerful state leaders more than with the central government. Building stronger relationships with regional parties that control many Indian states will also act as an important buffer if there is ever a downturn in relations between Delhi and Washington.
Expand our homeland security cooperation: The United States and India have had a “Homeland Security Dialogue” since 2011, though the governments have not been able to meet on a consistent basis at the ministerial level. India and the United States share an enormous range of concerns in this area, from aviation security to Coast Guard development, and there is wide latitude for dialogue. Prior experience shows, however, that initiatives will succeed only if they are pushed through high-level engagement. A major terrorist attack on Indian soil coordinated from Pakistan, resulting in a significant Indian military response, is also one of the more likely factors to derail India’s rise as an economic and security partner of the United States. Helping India strengthen itself against such attacks is strongly in the U.S. interest.
Discuss tax policy concerns regularly: Tax disputes make up a sizeable portion of U.S. commercial disputes. Apart from the formal “Mutual Agreement Procedure” negotiations, it is great that the “Financial & Economic Partnership” between the Treasury Department and the Ministry of Finance has started to include tax issues.
Bring a top-notch delegation to the Global Entrepreneurship Summit: India has agreed to host this important annual summit in 2017. Founded by the United States, we should make the summit a core highlight of our global partnership in 2017, with a powerful U.S. delegation composed of public and private leaders.Engage opposition leaders: While the Congress Party is down, it is not out. The United States should make sure it continues to engage regularly with the party’s leadership so we can maintain good momentum in our relationship if the politics turn. For instance, Congress still controls six states and has the second-most seats in 13 other state legislatures, highlighting the fact that the party remains the most viable alternative should the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) falter.Important to the success of the ideas above, the U.S. government must also have senior-level champions of the relationship. U.S.-India ties, while strengthening, still require regular high-level engagement from U.S. officials to achieve concrete objectives. This relationship cannot thrive if placed on autopilot.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 11:52

Commodore C. Uday Bhaskar has an article in Live mint.

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Admiral Harry B. Harris: "India and US must shape the new normal, the global operating system"

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Postby Hari Seldon » 20 Jan 2017 12:47

Engage Indian state leaders: In the last 24 months, we saw an uptick in the number of U.S. programs that seek to engage India’s powerful state leaders. This effort should be deepened and widened. Ultimately, the power to achieve India’s development goals lies with India’s powerful state leaders more than with the central government. Building stronger relationships with regional parties that control many Indian states will also act as an important buffer if there is ever a downturn in relations between Delhi and Washington.


This is worrying. 'Cultivating' state level leaders against the center (Which is what it boils down to).

That there's a trust deficit with Unkil sam for India is no secret.

Unkil's credibility is further dampened by consistent, persistent and insistent efforts to 'engage civil society' via a bevy of shady NGOs, an open prosletyzation agenda, their deep state's deep penetration of our polity, baboonocracy, media and maybe judasiary too who knows, past role in color revolutions of various shades and the walk (as opposed to talk) w.r..t. Packeeistan, among other things.

Best to mouth platitudes, do brochure-bazi, chai-biskoot and time-pass.

In the long run, unkil does see Des as an improbable but less-than-impossible claimant to grate power status, which grates them of course, given their views of how un-grate-ful 'em SDREs were in the past. tch, tch.

Unkil doesn't need us and we should try to not need them. Arms length transactional jaw-jaw, grandiose visionary statements and banquets are quite harmless though.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 20:51

A good data mining project would be to go to the GOI website and locate the FCRA NGOs and map them on a map of India which is zoomable.
My hope is we can see which states get the most love and what is important in that state to thee funders. Local agents of influence are being cultivated to bring about protests and actions as needed in the interests of the NGO funding group is my hypothesis.
A cheap version would be to buy a wall map of India and put flag pins (of the funding countries) to locate these FCRANGOs. And take pictures.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 20:55

In other news Rediff sells Indian Abroad:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/ ... 33257.html

India Abroad was an iconic news paper started by Gopal Raj.
It was the go to weekly newspaper in the pre-Internet age.
One very useful column from the 70s-90s was on Immigration Law that clarified many of the intricacies.
Rediff ran down the paper to its current sad state.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby komal » 20 Jan 2017 21:12

ramana wrote:In other news Rediff sells Indian Abroad:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/ ... 33257.html

India Abroad was an iconic news paper started by Gopal Raj.
It was the go to weekly newspaper in the pre-Internet age.
One very useful column from the 70s-90s was on Immigration Law that clarified many of the intricacies.
Rediff ran down the paper to its current sad state.


Remember the paper well. The lawyer was Alan Kaye. I hired him. He was really into India culture.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby shravanp » 20 Jan 2017 22:18

Anti-Trump protestors smashing windows in DC

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 22:47

Wrong thread....

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby sudeepj » 20 Jan 2017 22:52

Must read article on what is roiling the US nat sec establishment. Trump will provide the creative destruction needed. There are great opportunities here for India.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/ ... 12180.html

Trump’s rhetoric is a problem, but so is conventionally clear political rhetoric that clearly says nothing. I say this because I think that observers tend too readily to dismiss what he says. This is an attempt to decode it.


Trump’s core strategic argument is that the United States is overextended. The core reason for this overextension is that the United States has substituted a system of multilateral relationships for a careful analysis of the national interest. In this reading, Washington is entangled in complex relationships that place risks and burdens on the United States to come to the aid of some countries. However, its commitments are not matched by those countries in capability, nor in intent.

Overextension by Alliance

NATO is the obvious case. The United States has been involved in wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, and elsewhere in the Islamic world. NATO has not provided decisive strategic support to these efforts. Many have provided what support they could or what support they wanted, but that level of support was far below the abilities of NATO members.


As important, the primary strategic activity of the United States for the past 15 years has been in the Islamic world. Many in NATO objected to the U.S. operation in Iraq, and except for the United Kingdom they provided little or no significant support. Alliance members have no obligation to join in conflicts initiated by the United States outside the area of NATO’s focus. Trump accepts that principle but points out that the organization has been irrelevant to U.S. strategic needs. Where the alliance engaged, it did so with far too little force to constitute a strategic force. Their reasonable argument that the 28-member alliance makes no commitment to out-of-area engagements not undertaken under Article 5 raises the question of what, then, NATO’s value is to the United States. In sum, NATO lacks significant strategic capabilities, and the alliance is defined in such a way that its members can and do elect to avoid those conflicts that matter most to America.

It is therefore not clear that NATO as currently constituted is of value to the United States. The United States is liable for the defense of Europe. Europe is not liable for defending American interests, which today lie outside of Europe.


Similar re-examination of our relationships ought to be carried out globally in regard to allies such as Japan and South Korea to assure that such relationships remain of value to both parties, and that the level of effort and risk reflects that value.


The End of Multilateralism

The United States’ central preoccupation in foreign policy -- one shared by other countries -- is Islamic radicalism, especially in its latest manifestation, the Islamic State. ...

The United States is ready to work with any ally prepared to dedicate resources to this goal and to share risks. This includes Russia, which has an internal problem with Islamic terrorists and has significant capabilities it could deploy. Trump sees U.S. and Russian interests as coinciding. ...

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby svinayak » 20 Jan 2017 23:05

komal wrote:
ramana wrote:In other news Rediff sells Indian Abroad:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/ ... 33257.html

India Abroad was an iconic news paper started by Gopal Raj.
It was the go to weekly newspaper in the pre-Internet age.
One very useful column from the 70s-90s was on Immigration Law that clarified many of the intricacies.
Rediff ran down the paper to its current sad state.


Remember the paper well. The lawyer was Alan Kaye. I hired him. He was really into India culture.


I know the 8K Miles Media team. They are pro India and Pro Modi

Actually during the 70s and 80s Uncle used India abroad to do psy ops on Indians

During the Cold war India was 'isolated' from the global communications
Only India Abroad was serving the Indian population in the west and Indians used to get information about India only through India abroad.



Anybody wants to give suggestion for the new version please let me know

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Postby svinayak » 20 Jan 2017 23:06

8K Miles Media will be the largest desi media company in Radio, TV, and news media

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Lalmohan » 20 Jan 2017 23:06

re role of NATO in earlier post:

so America starts a war to cement its superpower status and tells its allies to get with the programme
allies balk at the cost in treasure and blood for a war of aggression
poodles pile in regardless - right or wrong
the emperor complains that the satraps did not help

the point of NATO was defence, it has only recently been changed to offense. the little fish don't get much choice in the matter

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Postby KJo » 20 Jan 2017 23:09

ramana wrote:In other news Rediff sells Indian Abroad:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/ ... 33257.html

India Abroad was an iconic news paper started by Gopal Raj.
It was the go to weekly newspaper in the pre-Internet age.
One very useful column from the 70s-90s was on Immigration Law that clarified many of the intricacies.
Rediff ran down the paper to its current sad state.


Wonder if it was the same as "India World". This was the only news site available for us new desis to the US in the mid 90s. "India Late News" was another site we looked at and maybe part of India World.
Then I heard that India World had an incarnation reaching back into the 60s in paper form.

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Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 23:11

Apropos Real Clear Politics article:

This is what Kishore Mahabubani was talking about the restoring the old normal.
Essentially the end of Cold War also marks the end of European dominance.
And the theatre shifts to Indo-Pacific as it was before colonization started.
As to other parts the article does not acknowledge the role that US had in stoking Islamic radicalism even after the Afghan war was over.
The mollycoddling of TSP, Taliban, and even ISIS as hedge against regional powers is not yet come to grips.

--LalMohan the model in out of Europe was
US goes and invades the area with UN resolutions passed by rail-roading or appeasing P-5...
NATO provides the occupation forces.
NATO soon found out that results in bodybags and so has cut down the 'peace-keeping' troops contribution.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 20 Jan 2017 23:14

KJo. No Its Indian Abroad from New York Founded in 1970 by Gopal Raj.

After ReDiff bought it, it had a secular outlook and used to slant the news sometimes negatively.
All that reduced readership with NRIs who stopped subscription.
Regular Saturday morning reading was IA in many homes.
Gradually competition and slant reduced the readership.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Lalmohan » 20 Jan 2017 23:22

its the old model of empire... if the emperor says you're in the next army, you're in the next army...
simple...

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Postby sudeepj » 20 Jan 2017 23:25

ramana wrote:Apropos Real Clear Politics article:

This is what Kishore Mahabubani was talking about the restoring the old normal.
Essentially the end of Cold War also marks the end of European dominance.
And the theatre shifts to Indo-Pacific as it was before colonization started.
As to other parts the article does not acknowledge the role that US had in stoking Islamic radicalism even after the Afghan war was over.
The mollycoddling of TSP, Taliban, and even ISIS as hedge against regional powers is not yet come to grips.

--LalMohan the model in out of Europe was
US goes and invades the area with UN resolutions passed by rail-roading or appeasing P-5...
NATO provides the occupation forces.
NATO soon found out that results in bodybags and so has cut down the 'peace-keeping' troops contribution.


Yes. My read is that Atlanticism's (the idea that the Atlantic was the center of Gravity for all that mattered in the world politically, culturally and economically) moment has passed and the Pacificism's moment has arrived. The irrelevance of Atlanticism was proven by Natos non-response to post 9/11 wars (Iraq, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Pakistan... ). The treachery of Nato's non-response is so huge.. Had the USSR killed 3000 Europeans in an attack, they expected the US to take the risk of mega tonnes on their cities.. But when Americans were killed, they sent their chocolate cream soldiers for one or two years and hurried back the moment a few were killed. Further, they have now imported jihadis and their capability for action is permanently compromised by internal security concerns. This after the US basically put together Europe after the idiots had cut each others throats and bled each other dry.

But the real challenge is the Chinese land grab in SCS. 75% of the Earths surface is water, and 90% of the world's population and wealth lives near the coasts. Whoever rules the waves, rules the Globe. PLA with its land-lubber mentality thinks SCS is like Aksai Chin.. a little land grab that does not harm anyone, but they have unwittingly challenged the current ruler of the globe. Naval officers are quite clear in their heads as to what is happening and how they want to respond.

As for US mistakes, Indians know it all too well. Its said that the US can be relied on to do the right thing, after they have tried everything else. Perhaps that moment has come?

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Postby Marten » 20 Jan 2017 23:27

ramana wrote:KJo. No Its Indian Abroad from New York Founded in 1970 by Gopal Raj.

After ReDiff bought it, it had a secular outlook and used to slant the news sometimes negatively.
All that reduced readership with NRIs who stopped subscription.
Regular Saturday morning reading was IA in many homes.
Gradually competition and slant reduced the readership.

One major reason for the slant was Nikhil Lakshman and his now ex-wife. Of course, there are other considerations in media but the key reason in the change was the wife and her personal views.

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Postby NRao » 20 Jan 2017 23:59

sudeepj wrote:Must read article on what is roiling the US nat sec establishment. Trump will provide the creative destruction needed. There are great opportunities here for India.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/ ... 12180.html


Thanks.

Common sense, that has been lost.

Interesting that PM May of the UK (she brought it up at Davos) and now Trump, both talk of redistribution. Something that India needs to divert to too. No use having a huge GDP and the benefits going to a very insignificant segment of a society.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby sudeepj » 21 Jan 2017 00:08

NRao wrote:
sudeepj wrote:Must read article on what is roiling the US nat sec establishment. Trump will provide the creative destruction needed. There are great opportunities here for India.

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/ ... 12180.html


Thanks.

Common sense, that has been lost.

Interesting that PM May of the UK (she brought it up at Davos) and now Trump, both talk of redistribution. Something that India needs to divert to too. No use having a huge GDP and the benefits going to a very insignificant segment of a society.


This is offtopic, but there is no party in India that is not re-distributionist. This is a settled debate in India.

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Postby NRao » 21 Jan 2017 06:24

More common than I thought.

7 Modisms in Trump's inaugaral talk

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Postby NRao » 21 Jan 2017 06:25

but there is no party in India that is not re-distributionist. T


Redistribution of wealth.

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NRao wrote:More common than I thought.

7 Modisms in Trump's inaugaral talk


Trump is no ModiJi despite what white attention craving DDM says, but I will say there is one key difference. Trump unabashedly uses the phrase "Islamic terrorism". Can ModiJi ever dare utter the same phrase in India? Even though he has overwhelming majority, and despite Pakistan sponsored Islamic terrorism being the scourge that has been inflicted on India for decades.

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Postby chetak » 21 Jan 2017 10:38

Marten wrote:
ramana wrote:KJo. No Its Indian Abroad from New York Founded in 1970 by Gopal Raj.

After ReDiff bought it, it had a secular outlook and used to slant the news sometimes negatively.
All that reduced readership with NRIs who stopped subscription.
Regular Saturday morning reading was IA in many homes.
Gradually competition and slant reduced the readership.

One major reason for the slant was Nikhil Lakshman and his now ex-wife. Of course, there are other considerations in media but the key reason in the change was the wife and her personal views.



:) :) :)

For a long time, Nikhil Lakshman, Editor of India Abroad and Rediff has
been carrying out a hate campaign against Hindus.
Because of his close connections with the Galdharis of the middle east,
and his 'pseduo secularist' views, his paper has been staunchly
pro-Muslim and anti Hindu.

Now come the news from the Bombay press club that Nikhil Lakshman's
wife, Nandini Lakshman has left his home, and bed, to hitch herself
with a Muslim. Talk about poetic justice.

Next on the list is Nikhil Lakshman's pet poodle, India Abroad deputy
editor Saisuresh Sivaswamy,whose wife, Shameem Akhtar is set to jump
the fence (for greener pastures).

Jai Bharat. Jai Sri Ram

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Published on Jan 17, 2017
India@United Nations: A video message of H.E. Mr. Antonio Guterres, United Nations Secretary General, for the Raisina Dialogue, New Delhi, 17-19 January, 2017. Raisina Dialogue is India's flagship International Conference on Geo-politics and Geo-economics. The theme of 2017 Raisina Dialogue is The New Normal: Multilateralism with Multipolarity. Raisina Dialogue is jointly organized by India's Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) & Observer Research Foundation (ORF), a premier think-tank of India.

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Postby Prem » 21 Jan 2017 11:24

Marten wrote:
ramana wrote:KJo. No Its Indian Abroad from New York Founded in 1970 by Gopal Raj.

After ReDiff bought it, it had a secular outlook and used to slant the news sometimes negatively.All that reduced readership with NRIs who stopped subscription. Regular Saturday morning reading was IA in many homes.Gradually competition and slant reduced the readership.
One major reason for the slant was Nikhil Lakshman and his now ex-wife. Of course, there are other considerations in media but the key reason in the change was the wife and her personal views.

I think his last name is/was Raju. Dr Japra challenged this man as well India West owner who took money from Khalistani and published article to break India. Argument became personal and Phagwaria Japra put his money behind his words and started India Post and killed the business of both Crapsters. It was the Editor of Indian Post who got us space at last minute to have BR booth on the Aug 15 Mela.

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Postby komal » 21 Jan 2017 12:11

Apologize for reminiscing about India Abroad. But one key to its success was the Visa Report that showed how long it would take to get a Green Card under the various categories. Sometimes there would be no movement in the waitng list for weeks, then suddenly one of the categories would jump by a month.

This was a big deal in the 1970s. The first ones over here (doctors, IIT grads, etc.) would sponsor brothers/sisters, etc. And they would read IA to see the visa wait list progression.

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Postby NRao » 21 Jan 2017 17:54

Very interesting conference.

Here is FS Shankar. After Modi's introduction, this talk could not be any more clear about Indian position.

Traditional analysts will have to reboot.


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Postby svinayak » 21 Jan 2017 23:46

NRao wrote:Very interesting conference.

Here is FS Shankar. After Modi's introduction, this talk could not be any more clear about Indian position.

Traditional analysts will have to reboot.




Not much details but mostly one liners

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Postby darshan » 22 Jan 2017 05:18

Do not know this family personally but caught the new on local channel while visiting NC.

https://www.gofundme.com/Priyanka

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Postby CRamS » 22 Jan 2017 06:25

BTW: how many Indian and Indian American elites were at the Trump tamasha?

On the policy side, 2 issues of utmost importance: 1) Trump going after etch-one-bees, and 2) his promise to wipe out Islamic extremism. Will he keep promise#1 (bad for Indian economy) and assuming he keeps promise# 2, does that include TSP Islamic extremism against India?

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Postby ramana » 24 Jan 2017 23:54

CRamS wrote:BTW: how many Indian and Indian American elites were at the Trump tamasha?

On the policy side, 2 issues of utmost importance: 1) Trump going after etch-one-bees, and 2) his promise to wipe out Islamic extremism. Will he keep promise#1 (bad for Indian economy) and assuming he keeps promise# 2, does that include TSP Islamic extremism against India?


I don't concur a reduction in H1B's is bad for India. Yes might be for some Indian companies.
The poor H1B's are virtual slaves of the US companies that hire them.
And they are exploited by Indian companies who body shop them.

In the early days H1B was a glide path to green card which was in short supply.
it got twisted by body shop companies to bring in low paid workers and undercut US employees right in US.
No different than shipping mfg jobs to China.

Its probable that Indian companies will now abandon the body shop model and start developing Computer software from ab inito and not be DOO.
Net result this may be good.
However needs changes at management level in Indian companies.

As for goal #2, No it wont include that.

What India needs to do is to do what is in India's interests.

Can't hope somebody will clean up radical Pakistan terrorism even if they created it in first place.

Congress govts in India did nothing to strengthen the state against Pak terrorism.
Many examples from J&K, Khalistan, 1993 Mumbai blasts, 26/11 Mumbai attacks, Ind Muj terrorist attacks.
Add to that clean Mundu AK Anthony conspired with MMS to run down Indian military readiness and is still sitting in Rajya Sabha.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby ramana » 25 Jan 2017 00:07

NPR is running a campaign on NaMo via their correspondent based in Delhi.

And the intro is Trump to speak to NaMo today!!!!

She has one bad report after the other every week.

The Indian SC is being painted as a fountain of wisdom of the new age of tolerance.

She brings in all Indians/Indian origin useless guys who hate Indian state to speak against India.

Looks like NaMo is being targeted by the Global Deep State(GDS).

GDS thinks 2012 election of Obama validated their model and will usher in new world universalism as shown by Podesta emails.

however NaMo election in 2014 has unleashed nationalism in democracies and #Brexit and #Trumpcalypse are a result of this.

Hence they want to bring down NaMo.

They sent a Harvard political science professor to fix UP elections for #ConSp (short for Conspiracy or Constipation which ever you like)

If you think this is a CT, then need to know most SU political science profs validate their models in Indian politics.

Example Brian Bruno De Mesquita got contracts with State Department after his prediction that Charan Singh will replace Morarji Desai even when no one in Embassy had heard of him.

Too many examples to list.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby KLNMurthy » 25 Jan 2017 02:09

vijayk wrote:http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2017/jan/24/donald-trump-to-speak-with-narendra-modi-tonight-1562967.html?utm_content=buffer6317b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Trump to speak with Modi

He is speaking to Modi at 1130 pm IST (4 pm EST), disrupting the PM's much-needed sleep time. He could have scheduled the call for at least a couple of hours earlier, during lunch time in DC, as a courtesy.

Modi said during his campaign that he wanted to build an India in which Americans will queue up outside the Indian embassy instead of the other way around. I want to at least see the day the US President will speak to the Indian PM during India's office time.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby disha » 25 Jan 2017 02:33

^ Not just validating theoretical models in Indian politics., but validating theories in Indian polity itself.

Think again., it was ford foundation and its foreign funded cronies which launched girl-child-abortion campaign in India. India was the petridish on which they tried to study population control and gender imbalance.

It was the gates foundation and its cronies which validated the HPV in Indian tribal girl populations.

Green "revolution" was first tried in India and also moving towards more grain (rice/wheat) than cereals (ragi/jowar). Check ICRISAT. Also regularly updating the germ plasm of the American (and S. American) Beef industry.

With the rise of 'internet-Hindus'* the deep state is on a back foot and the global deep state is worried that once India starts to realize its own potential, in a 2-3 decades the center will shift from Eurocentrism to Indo-centrism (was it not India that launched the age of discovery?)

Hence this attacks. NPR does the pseudo-lib attack on modi. Nat Geo does the religious attack on hindus.

* How is the rise of 'Internet-Hindus' putting the deep state in check? Take for example Alyssa Ayres. Former deputy assistant secretary of state for "Sooth Asia" (http://www.cfr.org/experts/india-pakist ... yres/b9237) - married to Sadanand Dhume. On twitter., her inanities get exposed easily and quickly. So a particular narrative that needs to be carefully constructed starts with holes.

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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions III

Postby Cosmo_R » 25 Jan 2017 03:01

^^^" I don't concur a reduction in H1B's is bad for India. Yes might be for some Indian companies.
The poor H1B's are virtual slaves of the US companies that hire them.
And they are exploited by Indian companies who body shop them."

I agree. Reduced H1Bs may be the best thing for innovation in India. No more easy money from body shopping. The bigger players are already gearing up to set up centers in the US and hire locals. They will have to compete on value and that R&D can be done in India.

In many ways, this H1B service is increasingly detrimental: easy money with basic IT skills distorts the process—companies don't do R&D and graduates don't go into the harder stuff like tech driven manufacturing.

Ultimately competing on price is a race to the bottom. It will go to the Philippines, Vietnam, Bangladesh. Look at the free lancer rates on UpWork (formerly E Lance and ODesk) —$8/hr??

Another thing they've really got to shut down (both ends) is this business of dubious universities who employ recruiting agents who shovel unqualified candidates into programs. The students are under the impression that attendance is optional and they can work outside after the first year. When they fail or the ICE catches up, they are out thousands in loans.


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