Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 10 Mar 2017 23:40

Pakistani Newspaper Admits "Water Mismanagement "

Tarbela, Mangla dams to be empty within 24 Hours.

LAHORE: (Daily Dunya) – Tarbela and Mangla dams will be empty within next 24 hours as Tarbela Dam is left with only 30,000 acre feet of water while Mangla has 40,000 acre feet of water left, reported Daily Dunya.According to Zulfiqar Mehto’s report, both the major dams are almost empty now in Pakistan due to less than expected rain during the winter season. The investigation into the matter brought to the fore the fact that due to the absence of Kalabagh or any other major dams, we have let 12 million acre feet of water, equivalent to the capacity of two large dams, to fall into the sea during 2016-17 water year. Then, after this admission, they have the "nerve" to accuse India of stealing "their water" :evil:
It has also been learnt that 19% water shortage was recorded for wheat and other crops of the ongoing season. Indus River System Authority (IRSA) has already sent the alert to Punjab and Sindh governments regarding lack of canal water for the Khareef season’s crops like cotton etc. The water supply to both the provinces has been decreased from Thursday. The supply from Mangla Dam has been reduced to 22,000 cusec from 28,000 cusec while the supply from Mangla Dam has been reduced to 28,000 cusec from 32,000 cusec.
Ministry of Water and Power has told Dunya News that the water reserve in Tarbela Dam is now 30,000 acre feet now while that in Mangla is 40,000 acre feet. The level will drop to dead level on Saturday after which the provinces will be provided with water supply on daily basis from the normal flow of the river. :roll:

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Postby Falijee » 11 Mar 2017 00:09

PSL Cricket Match A "Tamasha" ; Hard Times Predicted For Sharif Family By This Paki Anal-ist

The feeling in the air
Ayaz Amir

I have been these past two or three days in Lahore and every time you meet someone the question is the same: what is going to happen?
The reference of course is to the verdict in the Panama case. What is it going to be and what is it going to spell for the longest-ruling dynasty in Pakistani politics? Let not the Najam Sethis and the PML-N darbaris fool themselves or the public at large. The PSL final---some would call it the PSL tamasha---was a passing phenomenon, here today, gone tomorrow. It generated some excitement and a good deal of media nonsense. Some of the articles in pro-PML-N newspapers have to be read to be believed---describing the match in terms usually reserved for the decisive battles of history. :D
Hardly had the lights dimmed in Qaddafi Stadium when insurgents from across the Durand Line attacked three military posts in Mohmand Agency leading to the deaths of five soldiers. The ISPR in a statement said the attack was repulsed and 15 terrorists were killed. Five military deaths is not a small matter. Furthermore, a captain and a soldier were killed in Swabi in an exchange of gunfire with insurgents or terrorists, whatever we call them. The insurgent threat has been pushed back. It hasn’t gone away and it will take more than a hyped-up cricket match for it to be vanquished and eliminated.
The larger question over the national scene is posed by the Panama case. It has triggered all kinds of speculation because serious issues of corruption and misstatements are involved and if the verdict goes against the prime minister and his family, who are at the centre of this case, the country could be in for anything.
The verdict…only the angels would know what it’s going to be. But the ruling family is worried and the ruling party is on tenterhooks. Five judges and it’s almost as if they hold the country’s future in the palms of their hands.This is a unique moment in Pakistan’s history. Judges previously have delivered momentous judgments. Martial laws have been endorsed, not once but repeatedly, and a prime minister, remember, was once sent to the gallows. Dismissed prime ministers from Sindh---Muhammad Khan Junejo and Benazir Bhutto---could get no succour from the courts. But a prime minister from Punjab---Nawaz Sharif---was restored to his office after being dismissed through presidential decree…similar circumstances but different outcomes, prompting critics and cynics to level charges of double standards. IMO, the Supreme Court also is in "Ganja's pocket" ![/quote]
This time it is different. The Khosa bench hearing the Panama case is its own master, answerable only to its own sense of right and wrong. Whichever way it goes it will do soon on its own volition, guided by its own understanding of the law and the requirements of justice.
Be it remembered that throughout his long political innings, the longest in Pakistan’s history, Nawaz Sharif has always found favour and indulgence from the courts. Cases and allegations that would have felled and destroyed other politicians have left him and his family unscathed. Because the Supreme Court is in Ganja's pocket ![/quote][/color]

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Postby Falijee » 11 Mar 2017 00:19

Indo-Pak tensions could escalate into 'nuclear exchange': US CENTCOM

(Web Desk) – Commander of United States Central Command, General Joseph Votel has warned on Friday that Indo-Pak tensions could escalate into a ‘nuclear exchange’.The CENTCOM chief said: “India’s public policy to diplomatically isolate Pakistan ( India has somewhat succeeded in isolating Pakistan, at least in a regional way !) hinders any prospects for improved relations.” He was at a hearing on the United States Central Command before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
“This is especially troubling as a significant conventional conflict between Pakistan and India could escalate into a nuclear exchange, given that both are nuclear powers,” he added.He said that Pakistan’s increased focus on its border with India detracts from its efforts to secure border with Afghanistan from incursions by Taliban and Al-Qaida terrorists. Massa to apply "pressure" on India :roll:
He said that United States continues to maintain engagement with Pakistani military counterparts and the army continues a robust joint exercise programme.“Most recently, the Pakistani Air Force sent airmen and aircraft to participate in Exercise RED FLAG and GREEN FLAG at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada this past summer,” General Votel added. Will things change under a new Sarkar ?
While talking about Afghanistan, he said: “Stability in Afghanistan is further challenged by the malign influence of external actors. The enablement of violent extremist groups operating inside of Afghanistan and along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region, receiving sanctuary or support from outside governments, is of particular concern.”He said that the United States looks forward to continuing engagement with Chief of the Army Staff, Chief of the Army Staff, General Qamar Javed Bajwa, in the days ahead as we work together in pursuit of shared interests. Nothing about the "double game" played by Pakistan vis-a-vis sabotage in Afghanistan :roll:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby arun » 11 Mar 2017 00:53

Falijee wrote:Pakistani Newspaper Admits "Water Mismanagement "

Tarbela, Mangla dams to be empty within 24 Hours.

LAHORE: (Daily Dunya) – Tarbela and Mangla dams will be empty within next 24 hours as Tarbela Dam is left with only 30,000 acre feet of water while Mangla has 40,000 acre feet of water left, reported Daily Dunya.According to Zulfiqar Mehto’s report, both the major dams are almost empty now in Pakistan due to less than expected rain during the winter season. The investigation into the matter brought to the fore the fact that due to the absence of Kalabagh or any other major dams, we have let 12 million acre feet of water, equivalent to the capacity of two large dams, to fall into the sea during 2016-17 water year.


This is news is nothing but a punt to permit Pakistan’s Punjab Province to indulge in yet more water gluttony by building Kalabagh Dam and stealing water of the smaller Non Punjabi provinces of Pakistan. India must provide all diplomatic and moral support to Pakistan’s Non Punjabi smaller provinces to thwart Punjab’s water gluttony and prevent construction of Kalabagh Dam.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 11 Mar 2017 02:12

http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 574017.cms

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"Pakistan has become a quasi-adversary, receiving hundreds of billions through the years in direct and indirect U.S. support , a strange hostage-like arrangement in which we pay Islamabad to do what it should be doing anyway to protect its own domestic security and buttress Afghan stability," Poe and Clad wrote.

The authors can't get their heads around another bit of what they call "weird psychology". That is, the US looking the other way as Pakistan acquired nuclear-weapons capability even as it went "through the kabuki dance of annual nonproliferation certification."


Nothing's going to come out of this but the public naming and shaming of porkies is good enough.

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Postby Peregrine » 11 Mar 2017 02:15

Falijee wrote:Pakistani Newspaper Admits "Water Mismanagement "

Tarbela, Mangla dams to be empty within 24 Hours.
Falijee and all B-RFites :

What happens to Cwapistani Cotton, Rice, Sugar Cane and Wheat Crops? :twisted:

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Prem » 11 Mar 2017 03:22

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Tarbela, Mangla dams to be empty within 24 Hours.
Falijee and all B-RFites :

What happens to Cwapistani Cotton, Rice, Sugar Cane and Wheat Crops? :twisted:
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All this pathetic Paki Drama to welcome Indian team's Chai Pani Biscit & Pee visit under IWT.

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Postby anupmisra » 11 Mar 2017 03:31

Angry old man
by Najam Sethi

Imran Khan is an angry old man, and a self-centered, self-righteous, arrogant racist. The hallmark of his politics is now a petulant mischief making, which wants to bring the whole house down if he can’t have his way.
he humiliated some of the top international players in the world who came to Lahore by calling them “phhateechar” and “relu kattay” from Africa, adding insult to injury.
But despite being roundly condemned, Imran Khan still hasn’t demonstrated the courage or humility to apologise for his outrageous, anti-cricket, anti-people comments.
wandered like a lost soul in the political wilderness until the “establishment” laundered him and presented him as its own candidate in the 2013 elections
Imran Khan is an angry old man.


Sethiji, tell us how you really feel about immy duh dimmy khan.

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Postby Peregrine » 11 Mar 2017 03:39

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India snubs new UN chief, rejects Kashmir mediation

NEW DELHI: India has again reiterated that only a bilateral solution to the Kashmir issue is possible, amid signs that new United Nations (UN) secretary general Antonio Gutterres was looking at ways to break the deadlock between the two nations.

Responding to reports that Guterres was considering opening a conversation with senior Indian and Pakistani officials on Kashmir, government sources said, "Our position on addressing all issues between India and Pakistan bilaterally has not changed."

Guterres' spokesperson Farhan Haq was quoted as saying that the secretary general "will talk to different officials if it helps (to) move the process along. That's something that he is looking into. Beyond that, I have nothing new to say about the issue".

Haq was answering journalists' questions about the situation in Kashmir, and if Guterres had been able to understand the Kashmir dispute and would he be talking to PM Narendra Modi to start a dialogue with Pakistan.

When asked if there was a timeline as to when the UN chief would talk to leaders from the two countries, Haq said that, as with any number of long-running situations, there were "a lot of complex issues" that needed to be examined. The UN chief "will... certainly...try to see what can be done to improve the situation on the ground", Haq said.

Pakistan has repeatedly asked the UN to intervene in Kashmir, particularly after the months-long unrest and violence in the Kashmir Valley last year.

Guterres' predecessor Ban Ki-moon had expressed concern at the violence, but refrained from offering facilitation or mediation. India has been opposed to any third party involvement since 1972.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 11 Mar 2017 07:15

Is a new US-Pak romance underway? - Uday Balakrishnan, Business Line
Not many give Pakistan much of a chance with Donald Trump, even less so than people did back in 2001 after 9/11 attack. They were wrong then and they all are wrong this time around too.

It is now history that just when India in 2001 assumed it would be a principal player in taking on terrorism, it was unlikely Pakistan, always an almost-outcast, that rebounded smartly and became the centrepiece in the war that the US and its allies unleashed, engulfing almost every country from North Africa to next-door Pakistan and Afghanistan in violent conflict while also spawning ISIS.

It is not just Trump who, as his first phone conversation with President Sharif shows, has cozied up to Pakistan. There is a broad Republican consensus on the centrality of that country to the US war on terror going far back in time. This has been best articulated recently by Trump critic, fellow Republican and the very influential Chairman of the US Senate Committee on Armed Services John McCain.

Ally in Af-Pak

Writing in the Financial Times in July last year McCain said : “First, the US mission in Afghanistan is the same today as it was in 2001: to disrupt and defeat terrorist networks that seek to attack its interests and homeland and to deny them safe haven. That mission remains urgent, and it is unfortunately not over yet. Second, the US mission in Afghanistan is immeasurably more difficult without Pakistan’s co-operation in taking on terrorists that operate across the Afghan-Pakistani border at will.”

We are showing irrational exuberance in quietly cheering Trump’s determination to stamp out Islamic terror, hoping that Pakistan will be targeted by him soon. But the worst to have happened so far is that its citizens face ‘extreme-vetting’ before being admitted into the US. It is a safe bet to conclude that this will not last, and that Pakistan will be back in favour as the partner of choice for Trump to bring on board to continue to combat ‘Islamic terrorism.’ It has credentials to flaunt.

Pakistan, as everyone knows, was, and still is, a breeding ground for extremist Islamic terror. Nevertheless, few countries are perceived to have more often come under attack by extremist groups than Pakistan. The complex reality is that Pakistan’s efforts to counter such forces have been sustained, but selective. In doing so, Pakistan has successfully managed to keep terrorist committed to taking over Kashmir alive and active, while quietly retaining western as well as Chinese support — a legerdemain no other country has pulled off so successfully, for so long.

Old ties

Its very popular former army chief, General Raheel Sharif who mounted a widely-acclaimed campaign, Operation Zarb-e-Azb, to stamp out Islamic militancy in Pakistan now heads the 34-country, Islamic Military Alliance (IMA) whose avowed aim is to fight those Islamic terrorists Trump too has in his crosshairs. It should also not be lost on us, that the only large Muslim State not in the Islamic Military Alliance, is America’s favourite enemy, Shia Iran, a state challenging the US, Israel and Saudi power in West Asia.

It is precisely this sort of an alliance, bolstered by the participation of Pakistan, that the US is most likely to encourage to take on the likes of ISIS on the cheap. Pakistan has the expertise to do so, and is not unwilling to deploy it strategically to push its interests. India, by contrast, is ill-placed politically, and geographically challenged, to put ‘boots on the ground’ or replace western ones in parts of the world where Islamic terrorism is most rampant — West Asia.

The depth of Pakistan’s relationship with the US is inadequately appreciated by Indians. The Pakistan-US alliance is one that has been cemented over decades, starting from the early 1950s; the two countries have long been fused at the hip. It was from Pakistan that US spy planes took off, routinely overflying the then USSR until the U-2 Gary Powers was flying, was shot down over the Soviet Union in 1960. The opening up of China to the US and the West was facilitated by Pakistan, and, lest we forget, it was Pakistan’s cooperation that greatly contributed to the defeat and withdrawal of Soviet forces from Afghanistan.

Thus, when the US led intervention in Afghanistan once again became inevitable in 2001, Pakistan was the country of choice for the US to collaborate with. The US continues to be dependent on Pakistan for supplies to reach its bases in Afghanistan and there can be little doubt, that a lot more than intelligence is shared between the two countries than is generally known or acknowledged.

A new bonhomie

No wonder then, that there are renewed calls within the US to restore a workable relationship with Pakistan. As the conservative US think tank, Hudson Institute put it in a recent report, A New Approach to Pakistan, “the Trump administration should both publicly and privately maintain avenues for Pakistan to become a US ally, as well as trade and investment partner, in the future” {Reference is to the new report by Hussain Haqqani & Lisa Curtis which was critiqued in STFUP thread}. It is also no accident that neither Uri nor Pathankot figure in the list of Islamic terror attacks worldwide cited by the Trump administration in defence of his moves to ban the entry of Muslims of many countries.

As America turns inward under Trump, there is little reason to doubt that it will be Pakistan, the US will be turning to, and not India, to combat Islamic terrorism everywhere. It is precisely this ‘indispensability factor’, which will enable Pakistan to continue to milk the US for all it is worth in military and civilian aid and remain a formidable threat to India. A new phase in the US-Pakistan romance is subtly emerging. The sooner we recognise that, the better prepared we will be to counter it.

The writer is visiting faculty, Centre For Contemporary Studies, Indian Institute of Science, Bengaluru
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Postby SSridhar » 11 Mar 2017 08:01

We can’t declare Pak. a terror state: Centre - The Hindu
The government told Rajya Sabha on Friday that declaring Pakistan a “terror state” could have “diplomatic as well as other far-reaching consequences.”

Independent Member of Parliament Rajeev Chandrasekhar, who is also the Vice-Chairman of the BJP’s Kerala unit, had moved ‘The Declaration of Countries as Sponsor of Terrorism Bill, 2016’ to create a legal, economic and travel sanctions regime for citizens of countries which promote terror.

The Bill came up for discussion on February 3, the end of the first half of the Budget session and then it came up for discussion again on Friday.

The Hindu had reported on February 21 that Centre was set to oppose the Bill as it would jeopardise international relations under the Geneva Convention.


On Friday, Minister of State for Home Hansraj Gangaram Ahir told Rajya Sabha, “The government has taken many steps to deal with terror. The existing laws already have sufficient provisions for dealing with citizens of a terrorist country. To declare a country as a terrorist state can have diplomatic as well as other far-reaching consequences. Before doing so a detailed study is required. Therefore I request Mr. Chandrasekhar to withdraw the bill.”

MP finds support

Mr. Chandrashekhar then withdrew the Bill, which was, however, supported by many other members.

Nominated member and noted lawyer K.T.S. Tulsi said, “I am not opposed to the Bill but I have my doubts. We need to examine the practical utility of declaring Pakistan a terror state.” Congress member Abhishek Manu Singhvi suggested some changes in the Bill, saying some actionable points should be included.

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Postby SSridhar » 11 Mar 2017 16:00

Isolating Pakistan: Why Washington should avoid bashing Islamabad - Michael Krepon, DAWN
Does it make sense for the Trump administration and Congress to try to bludgeon Pakistan into doing Washington’s bidding? What about the ultimate sanction of labelling Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism? I don’t think so, but my side of the argument is losing ground. And if there is another major terrorist act in India or the United States that can be traced back to Pakistan, this debate could well be over.

The “squeeze Pakistan” camp is on the rise in Washington. There are three major complaints, all of which have plentiful justification. The first is Pakistan’s continued collusion with the Afghan Taliban, which has taken the lives of US soldiers while taking aim at the government in Kabul. The second is harbouring anti-India groups that carry out violent acts against targets in India and Afghanistan. The third is the pace and scope of its nuclear weapon-related programs, characterised by a former senior official at the National Security Council staff and the Pentagon as the fastest growing arsenal in the world.

Pakistan has paid heavily for these choices, which are made in Rawalpindi and not Islamabad. Its international standing has plummeted while India’s has risen. Its ties with Washington have frayed badly while US ties have shifted markedly toward India. {Why this urge to compare with India. Indeed, how can it be even made by any sane person? It is such comparisons that have led to the present-day situation} Pakistan’s economic growth has underperformed its natural potential, and foreign direct investment (with the exception of China) has dwindled. Pakistan’s relations with neighbouring states have deteriorated, and its diplomacy has been shackled by talking points that lost persuasiveness many years ago.

In addition, the Congress began to impose new penalties by cutting down on the Coalition Support Fund to Pakistan and refusing to provide financing assistance for the sale of additional F-16 aircrafts. More needs to be done, according to a report by the Hudson Institute and the Heritage Foundation, co-authored by Husain Haqqani and Lisa Curtis, who argue:

The “squeeze Pakistan” camp is on the rise in Washington. There are three major complaints, all of which have plentiful justification.
“[T]he objective of the Trump administration’s policy toward Pakistan must be to make it more and more costly for Pakistani leaders to employ a strategy of supporting terrorist proxies to achieve regional strategic goals. There should be no ambiguity that the US considers Pakistan’s strategy of supporting terrorist proxies to achieve regional strategic advantage as a threat to US interests.”

As for the ultimate US sanction, Husain, Lisa, and their co-signatories conclude that, “Designating Pakistan as a state sponsor of terrorism, as some US congressional members have advised, is unwise in the first year of a new administration, but should be kept as an option for the longer term.” The “longer term” of the Trump administration isn’t that long.

House Foreign Affairs Committee hearings have become notable for Pakistan bashing. One of the Committee’s senior Republicans, Ted Poe, provided opening remarks at an event sponsored by hard-right-leaning American Foreign Policy Council. The meeting’s topic: “The Appalling ‘Ally’: Has Congress Lost Patience with Pakistan?”

My beef isn’t with critiques of Pakistan’s behaviour. Clarifying the negative consequences of Rawalpindi’s choices is essential, but the impulse to isolate, stigmatise and punish Pakistan won’t produce the outcomes that are best for Pakistan, India and the US. Among the losers will be those inside Pakistan who seek changes in national security policies.{What have those 'insiders' done in sixty odd years. This is the usual inane argument repeated ad nauseum by the Americans and certain Indians to prolong the trouble} Worse, labelling Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism would be a profoundly unwise move. The leverage this threat provides would be lost with its execution, along with the potential for remedial steps. The terrorism issue, as important as it is, is less consequential than the nuclear issue.

The Hudson/Heritage report and the anti-Pakistan caucus on Capitol Hill reflect a broader trend: the impulse to punish has grown, diminishing space for diplomatic initiatives. The tough talkers forget about walking softly; they just brandish the big stick, even at the cost of substantive engagement – and even when their approach does not change the fundamentals of civil-military relations in Pakistan nor dampen growing nuclear dangers.

Full disclosure: I, too, have advocated clarifying penalties for Rawalpindi’s choices, recognising that private demarches haven’t worked. But neither will public witch trials. Herein lies the dilemma of US diplomacy – and for all those who wish to preserve and improve ties with Pakistan. Washington will lose more influence over Rawalpindi’s choices than it will gain by wielding big sticks and raising the “state sponsor of terrorism” threat like the sword of Damocles.

And yet, carrots don’t work, either.

There is evidence of learning and change in some areas of Pakistan’s national security – but not in others. Rawalpindi’s thinking has clearly changed with regard to taking on former proxies, albeit selectively. A new counter-terrorism campaign, Operation Radd-ul-Fasaad, has begun which widens the net, most notably in the Punjab. :shock: As with previous campaigns, this one was forced by painful embarrassment and loss of life due to weak implementation of prior commitments to fight extremism.

Pakistan’s political and military leaders are now {Now? Always been} riding a wobbly bicycle. They can either continue to move forward or fall behind. Falling behind means failing to succeed in tackling Pakistan’s internal security and image problems – and quite possibly inviting another near-war scenario with India – if not worse. If Pakistan’s military and political leaders continue to refrain from tackling men like Hafiz Saeed and Masood Azhar, their nation will remain stigmatised. Even so, continued engagement in this domain is required, not righteous indignation, excoriation and banishment. The rate of positive change depends on internal decisions that are, in turn, shaped by external pressures. External pressures work best when they don’t demand kow-towing to Washington.

Relations between Pakistan and India, as well as between Pakistan and Afghanistan, are volatile, as is evidenced by raids and firing across unsettled borders. A major crisis between India and Pakistan could well occur during Trump's administration. The US is obliged to function as an effective crisis manager, which won’t happen by shunning Pakistan. How do those leading the charge to squeeze Pakistan propose to proceed with crisis management and war prevention?

Washington’s ability to change Pakistan’s national security policies toward Afghanistan, India and nuclear weapons is limited.
Pakistan’s military leaders are making truly bad decisions with respect to nuclear weapons. They are investing heavily in warheads and missiles of last resort while trusting that deterrence will succeed so that they will not have to use these weapons first in a war triggered by incompetence or collusion with anti-India extremists based in Pakistan.

Under these circumstances, Pakistan’s first use of nuclear weapons on a battlefield – after seven decades of non-use – will establish its pariah status beyond recall. Pakistan looses either way: by believing that deterrence requires a nuclear competition with India, or by believing that a breakdown in deterrence can be solved by nuclear weapons’ use.

A recalibration of defense expenditures – between nuclear weapons that Pakistan’s leaders dare not use and conventional weapons that are Pakistan’s first line of internal and national defence – can only be made in Rawalpindi. There’s no telling how long it will take for Pakistan’s military leaders to figure this out, but by trying to isolate Pakistan, Washington will only reinforce the mistaken value Rawalpindi places on nuclear weapons.

As for Afghanistan, the convergence of US and Pakistan interests does not appear to extend beyond generalities, like the need for a political settlement. Such nostrums break down where the rubber meets the road – over the composition of a coalition government in Kabul, the contest for influence between Pakistan and India, and the actions of the Afghan Taliban, which Rawalpindi may again discover are beyond its ability to control.

The missteps of both Pakistan and the US in Afghanistan are already legion, the result of pipe dreams interrupted by harsh realities. One of those pipe dreams is the belief that Pakistan can be muscled into subordinating its perceived interests in Afghanistan to those of the US. More convergence is possible if Rawalpindi can rethink its Afghan strategy, but this heavy lift – as with trying to change Pakistan’s open-ended embrace of nuclear weapons and its anti-India policy – won’t occur by wielding a big stick.

Demanding fundamental change in Pakistan’s approach to Afghanistan ignores the following logic chain: first, Pakistan is more strongly committed to its policies in Afghanistan, however mistaken, than is the US; second, the future of Pakistan is more important to the US than the future of Afghanistan. Therefore, to sacrifice the former for the latter, as some Pakistan squeezers and bashers demand, is folly.

So, where does this leave US-Pakistan relations? In a bad place. Washington’s ability to change Pakistan’s national security policies toward Afghanistan, India and nuclear weapons is limited. Carrots and sticks work only at the margins. Pakistan can expect more penalties unless its national security policies change in some respects. Change for the better will come only if Rawalpindi changes course.

In the meantime, Washington’s priorities are to stay engaged, clarify the consequences of Pakistan’s present course, work on reducing nuclear dangers during this period of intensified competition, and prepare for crisis management.

The writer is co-founder of the Stimson Center, a Washington, D.C based policy research centre.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby A_Gupta » 11 Mar 2017 17:51

What is an Islamic State?
Listen if you can. The mendacity is terrifying.
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Remittances from Saudi, Gulf countries decline 14.9%
KARACHI: In a worrying development for the country’s economic managers, overseas Pakistani workers sent $1.48 billion in February 2017, down 6.9% compared with the same month of the previous year, according to data released by the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) on Friday.
Total remittances in the first eight months (July to February) of fiscal year 2017 have come down by 2.5% to $12.36 billion from $12.68 billion in the same period last year.
Country-wise details for the month of February 2017 show that inflow of remittances from Saudi Arabia – the country that hosts the largest diaspora of Pakistanis (about 2.2 million) in the world – came down to $404.4 million compared with $475 million in February 2016.
Money coming from GCC countries (including Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and Oman) declined to $168.2 million in February 2017 from $197.6 million in February 2016.
Similarly, remittances from the European Union declined to $31.7 million from $35.4 million.
Remittances from the United Kingdom also declined to $170.55 million in February 2017 from $179.65 million in February 2016.
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Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 11 Mar 2017 18:14

Plato — 'An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.'

Sharif asks clerics to counter terror using mosque's pulpit

LAHORE: Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Saturday appealed to clerics to use the mosque's pulpit to spread the message of peace and counter the extremist mindset.

Sharif made the remarks while addressing a seminar here at Jamia Naeemia, a leading seminary of majority Sunni school of thought, on the eighth death anniversary its founder Maulana Sarfaraz Hussain Naeemi, who was killed by militants.
Sharif said the religious scholars should promote true teachings of Islam.

He said the religious scholars should stand up against those who are sowing seeds of discord and disunity.

Talking about the role of clerics in spreading the message of peace, he said the "ulema have the mosque's pulpit as their forum, from where they can be heard all over Pakistan".

"It is still the most effective way of reaching out to the people of the country. You can spread the message of unity from here and shut the doors of terrorism in the country," Sharif said.

The Prime Minister said his government initiated strong and indiscriminate action against terrorists across the country after coming to power and now the backbone of terrorists has been broken.

He said that though isolated incidents of terror are still occurring but the government is committed to rooting out remnants of terrorists and their facilitators.

Sharif asked the religious scholars to come forward to take this war to its logical conclusion.

He said the clerics should use disagreement to create hatred and bloodshed.There you have it. The Pieceful Message from the Land of the Pure and the Home of the Terrorists

"Religious scholars in the past disagreed with each other, but they never incited hatred in their followers' hearts regarding other sects," he said.

Sharif said Islam teaches unity, harmony and brotherhood and there is a dire need for adopting these principles for prosperous Islamic world.

Sharif also paid rich tributes to Naeemi for standing up against militancy.

He said the sacrifices by religious scholars, the civilians and security forces will not go in vain in the war on terror.

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Postby menon s » 11 Mar 2017 19:36

Don't know if its reported here. Already.
Under construction hydro-power project on Khanpur canal collapses

This as being built by Chinese company. Project was to be declared open on Dec 17?

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Postby Falijee » 11 Mar 2017 20:42

"Marriage Of Convenience" Fails ? Hubby Can't Bring Home" The Bacon" No More :twisted:

Veena Malik seeks khula from husband after 3 years of marriage :roll:

Actress Veena Malik and her husband, Asad Khattak are parting ways after a little over three years of marriage.Malik filed a plea in a Lahore court on January 6, 2017 for a khula (dissolution of marriage) from her husband, which was issued in favour of the actress on January 31, 2017.
"According to the court, three notices are sent to the defendant to present himself before the court, if he fails to do so (which Asad did in this case) then the court issues an order in favour of the plaintiff (Veena)," the actor's lawyer, Ali Ahmad told DawnNews.
"Veena's reason for the dissolution of marriage is that Asad changed after marriage, his personality became 'complicated' and his demeanour became negative," he added. So, the much trumpeted "arrangement" was not made in heaven, as the saying goes ! Does this mean, that this now pious Islami but also an -divorcee ex model/ actress will revert back to her good, old bad un- Islamic ways and apply for a "job" in Bollywood again; under Sharia, will her two offsprings will still be in her custody - lots of unanswered questions here :D
The court has given a unilateral decision because of Khattak's unavailability. "The couple have 90 days to reconcile and if the defendant still fails to show up in court the divorce will not be reversible," shared the lawyer.Veena's father, [b]Malik Aslam revealed that even though Asad was a partner in his business, " ( So, it was "dad" who facilitated the arrangement , because he was "opposed " to her Bollywood ways !) he was not as financially stable" and that the couple "had a lot of problems."
"We all tried for three years to make things right, including Veena. When controversies regarding her shoot in an Indian publication came out, I was the first one to support her and stand up against what was being said to her and this time I am with her, the decision (for a khula) she made was right and I stand by her."He said: "Even though their marriage has ended, my relation with Asad will remain the way it was, like a son and a business partner." So "dad" is now her spokesman ! is she under "burkha" wraps ? As someone once said, no publicity is "bad publicity"; she should come out in the open and put her case to the Paki awaam for sympathy . And Imran Khan , her political favourite should support her !
The couple got married in Dubai on December 25 in 2013, they have two children. According to the father, Veena will have custody of the children as she is the mother, however this will not impact the relation the children share with their father. What is her future in Pakiland is anybody's guess ! Is her "Green Card" to Massaland , still valid under her "new circumstances" . Is she still in the "marriage market" and how it will affect her future , due to the stigma attached in Islamic societies to divorce females ( Look what happened to Reham Khan :twisted: )

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Postby Falijee » 11 Mar 2017 21:47

In Pakistan, Liberals And Secularists Are Being "Painted" As Atheists .

Pakistan's War on Atheism

On Tuesday a High Court Judge in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad reiterated in a hearing that “blasphemers are terrorists,” as a petitioner sought a ban on social media pages allegedly uploading derogatory posts against Islam and Prophet Muhammad.Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui, who has broken down in tears in every single one of the three hearings on the case this week, on Wednesday asked the government to put “blasphemers” on the Exit Control List (ECL).
On Thursday, Siddiqui, who has represented Islamic State-sympathizing Lal Masjid cleric Abdul Aziz in the past, said he would summon the prime minister :roll: ( Ganja is "always" on a foreign tour !) if no action is taken against social media pages that post “blasphemous” content.
The Islamabad police have since registered a case against the owners of these pages. The Senate has approved a resolution demanding strict action against “blasphemous content” online. Meanwhile, the Federal Investigation Agency has published ads in national dailies asking citizens to “help identify blasphemers on Facebook.” ( After which, mob-justice will do the rest :twisted: )
During the hearing this week, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) judge, implied that murder would be inevitable if the pages aren’t blocked. He went on to add that “liberal secular extremism” is a bigger threat than Islamic extremism.Pakistan’s interior secretary assured Justice Siddiqui that the “entire government machinery would be set in motion” to address the issue. This was followed by the interior minister vowing to block social media completely if the issue isn’t resolved. Meanwhile, the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) Chairman, in his defense, said that similar social media pages have recently been blocked and that it takes time to convince the Facebook administration to take action.These blocked pages include Bhensa, Mochi, and Roshni, which have either been blocked or taken over by the Elite Cyber Force of Pakistan. So, "everyone" is jumping on the bandwagon to please the "Islamists" !
In January, secular bloggers and activists, many of whom were accused of being affiliated with these pages, were abducted from various parts of the country, with the well-coordinated maneuver accused of being a state-backed operation by many quarters.While many were subsequently recovered, some fled the country immediately. One of these activists revealed on Thursday how the state had tortured him “beyond limits.”( Pakistan is known to be "the most dangerous place in the world " for journalists !)
Almost parallel to the activists’ release, the Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) Chief Hafiz Saeed, accused of masterminding the Mumbai Attacks, was put under house arrest. Many believe the state’s long overdue action against Kashmir-bound jihadists is being pushed by China, as it seeks security for the much touted economic corridor. In this "jail" AKA house arrest include home -made meals, visit by friend and relatives, use of cell phone etc etc !
Last year, Pakistan also passed its cybercrime law, which upholds identical punishments for Penal Code violations in the cyber-sphere. This means that “blasphemy” would be punishable by death, even if committed online.
The immediate impact of January’s abductions was a mass exodus of anonymous secular bloggers from the web. Satirical publication Khabaristan Times was also banned by the PTA, while a shift in editorial policies has been visible in many online and mainstream liberal publications.
This is why Justice Siddiqui’s juxtaposition of “liberal secular extremists” and radical Islamists is critical. All state institutions echoing apologia for Islamists, and slamming secularists, is menacing for an already endangered species: the Pakistani atheist.[ IMO, there is no such "species" in Pakistan :eek: /quote]
Delineating the ideological divide, which would result in any liberal ideals being thrown to the wolves, could’ve instigated Bangladesh-like violence had Pakistani freethinkers been a quasi-significant demographic. As it is, a few abductions, and banned web pages, were enough to silence many of us.Ironically, it is the state’s appeasement of radical Islam that has caused an upsurge in the number of atheists in Pakistan. This is why an official discourse on atheism has been going on in Pakistan, resulting in many expressing non-belief online, most doing so anonymously.
While 10 million might be significant exaggeration, a Gallup poll of 50,000 people found that 2 percent of Pakistanis self-identified atheists in 2012, which had doubled from the 1 percent in 2005.Pakistani atheists – a broad term encompassing agonistics, the irreligious, deists, and humanists alike – have been lazily painted by the Islamists as “liberals and seculars,” despite the fact that many believing and practicing Muslims identify as such as well.
nd while these atheists of Muslim heritage aren’t an organized political entity – as is the case in Bangladesh – the IHC’s verdict, and the capital police registering a case weeks after action against secular activists had already been taken, smacks of a thirst for blood.Whether the episode is being staged to mollify Islamists amidst the crackdown on jihadists, or if there’s a genuine clampdown against free-thought, remains to be seen. But the state seems more than willing to sacrifice its nonbelievers at the altar of its security failures. As the society becomes more and more Islamicized, leaving no room for anyone, except the "greenest" of the green, secularists, liberals and other broadminded sections will meet the same fate as Islamic and non Islamic minorities!

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Postby Falijee » 11 Mar 2017 22:15

Enemy Property Bill Clears Rajya Sabha. May Hit Sharmila Tagore, Saif Too

NEW DELHI: A stringent law that gives the central government unbridled powers to take over any property owned by people who migrated to Pakistan or China in the 1960s or later passed was passed by the Rajya Sabha on Friday.The upper house's nod - where the ruling NDA alliance is in a minority - comes days after Uttar Pradesh, home to a majority of these properties, voted for the next state government.
The changes to the Enemy Property Act 1968 provide that persons who left for Pakistan or China - the two countries that waged war against India - were enemies and their assets, enemy properties. It will not matter if someone else bought the property much later; the government still has the right to take them over without any compensation.In early 2016, the government had identified over 16,000 properties across India that could be taken over under this law. A rough estimate had indicated that 9,400 properties, where the process to take over the properties had been completed, were valued at 1 lakh crore rupees. That is enough to fund the Modi government's entire Digital India campaign. In support of this new law, one can argue that "rule of law" is being followed ( New Bill ), while the same cannot be set for the eastern neighbour ; land and building were grabbed were "grabbed" as soon as the Hindu population was forced to flee; people became crore -patties overnight :evil: !

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Postby Falijee » 12 Mar 2017 01:00

Ch. Nisar Threatens To Shut Down Facebook And Twitter In Pakiland .

The government has hinted at closing Facebook and Twitter permanently besides issuing a warning to all social media websites.The decision was made during a meeting chaired by Interior Minister Ch Nisar on Thursday.Ch Nisar said that there will be no compromise on blasphemy and terrorism.
He said that publicity of blasphemous content will not be allowed. :((


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Postby Falijee » 12 Mar 2017 01:12

Chinese ambassador applauds Peshawar Zalmi, PSL final :roll:

Curry favor with the Aam Abduls of KP in the "name of kirket" :lol: ?

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Postby anupmisra » 12 Mar 2017 01:45

menon s wrote:Don't know if its reported here. Already.
Under construction hydro-power project on Khanpur canal collapses. This as being built by Chinese company. Project was to be declared open on Dec 17?


Harami links:
http://www.baaghi.tv/under-construction ... collapsed/
http://www.todayspak.com/hydro-power-pr ... 25bn-lost/

Under construction hydro-power project on Khanpur canal collapses

Billion dollar hydro power project built on Khanpur canal did not even bear a first flow of water and "fell down".
due to the poor quality of construction. The 90 percent finished project, costed Rs. 2.25 billion, failed during test as the bridge did not bear the pressure of flowing water and collapsed


PKR 2.25 Billion is not $1 Billion...but still...time to collect the insurance money and do it over.

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Postby LokeshC » 12 Mar 2017 01:55

They will soon release an infrastructure repair sukook bond with 20% yield.

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http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/us-drone-kills-two-on-motorbike-in-pakistan-officials-1665514?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=msn-edgedefaulthomepage-india
Pakistan:  A US drone on Thursday killed two men riding a motorbike in Pakistan's northwest tribal region, officials said, the first such attack in the country under the administration of new American President Donald Trump.

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Postby Peregrine » 12 Mar 2017 04:42

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Pakistan’s trade deficit reaches record high
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s trade deficit widened to a record high of $20.2 billion during the eight months of the ongoing fiscal year, an amount $5.2 billion higher than the deficit recorded in the comparative period of the previous year and equivalent to the annual projections for the entire fiscal year.
The trade deficit, gap between exports and imports, widened to $20.2 billion during July-February, reported the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics (PBS) Saturday.
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Postby Prem » 12 Mar 2017 11:18

Pakistan will be paying China $90b against CPEC-related projects
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1352995/pa ... -projects/

KARACHI: Pakistan will end up paying $90 billion to China over a span of 30 years against the loan and investment portfolio worth $50 billion under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), report of a brokerage house estimated.The estimated return – sum of principal and interest on foreign currency debt and repayment of profits/dividend on equity investment – shows 40% return on investment.“Average annual repayment of CPEC will be $3 billion. {However, in medium term} between fiscal year 2020-25, it will range between $2.0-5.3 billion with average payment of $3.7 billion,” Saad Hashemy, an analyst at the brokerage house, said in a report titled, ‘Pakistan’s External Account Concerns and CPEC Repayment’.Another valid concern is over the repayment of CPEC-related projects. This is because most projects are being funded abroad and Pakistan is not seeing any significant inflow of foreign exchange.
It should be noted that project financing for CPEC is being done between Chinese companies and banks and around 25% of CPEC investment is expected to come in Pakistan,” he said. The report argued the repayment would remain manageable despite additional burden of debt servicing and repatriate of profits on equity investment in CPEC. The amount for additional repayment would be generated from the expected surge in exports, drop in imports and increased inflow of remittances.The brokerage house assumed exports to grow by 4.5% a year till fiscal year 2025, which is higher than the previous decade’s average of 3%. This is because of expectation of CPEC-led higher GDP growth in the coming years and positive impact on local industry.Imports are expected to grow by 4% in line with last decade’s average. Further, remittances are expected to grow within 4-4.5%, which is lower than last couple of decade’s average of over 7% as Pakistani diaspora has to a great extent shifted to official channels of transferring money.“We expect current account deficit to remain on average at 1.5% of GDP between FY20-25 at a range of 1.2%-1.8%,” it said. In addition, Arif Habib Limited estimated, CPEC-related transportation would earn $400-500 million per annum to Pakistan, which would be sufficient for repayments.At the same time, Topline Securities said Pakistan’s current account deficit (CAD) in the first seven months of current fiscal year 2017 remained much higher than expectation at $4.7 billion, which is 88% higher than last year.“The higher CAD was mainly on account of weak exports of $12.3 billion, which posted a decline of 1.3% while imports of $25.5 billion increased by 9%,” it said. “Given the large CAD…, we are revising up our CAD forecast to $6.6 billion (from previous $4.7 billion), which is 2.2% of GDP,” it added.“Given higher CAD, we are revising down our year end forecast of foreign exchange reserves to $22-23 billion from previous estimate of over $25 billion. “These are all time high foreign exchange and provide 4-5 months of import cover (accounting for only reserves with State Bank of Pakistan of $17-18 billion),” it said.

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Prem wrote:Pakistan will be paying China $90b against CPEC-related projects
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1352995/pa ... -projects/
KARACHI: Pakistan will end up paying $90 billion to China over a span of 30 years against the loan and investment portfolio worth $50 billion under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), report of a brokerage house estimated.The estimated return – sum of principal and interest on foreign currency debt and repayment of profits/dividend on equity investment – shows 40% return on investment.“Average annual repayment of CPEC will be $3 billion.
Prem Ji :

In 30 Years time i.e. 14-08-2047 the Centenary Anniversary will be Celebrated as the Cwapistan becoming Cwapiziang. This will be due to the HUMBANTOTA (Sinhalese: හම්බන්තොට, Tamil: அம்பாந்தோட்டை) EFFECT

As it is Cwapistan is taking "Fresh Loans" to pay off OLD LOANS.
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Pakistan, Bangladesh may feel impact of Uttar Pradesh election results

NEW DELHI: What do the UP election results mean for the Modi government's Pakistan policy? There has been some speculation that the government had been waiting for the UP elections to be over to pick up the threads of engagement with Pakistan, which have gone into deep freeze since the Uri attack .

After a massive electoral endorsement in crucial state elections, Modi now appears politically unassailable.
This has implications for his foreign policy, because winning elections halfway through a government's term is tricky everywhere, but he seems to have cracked the code. And that will make him a global leader to reckon with, particularly if established democratic leaders are seen to be floundering in elections across the world this year.

Within India's immediate neighbourhood, Modi's political strength will help in his dealings with other countries. An immediate beneficiary is likely to be Bangladesh PM, Sheikh Hasina who will probably be the first to visit India in April. Modi is likely to go around Mamata Banerjee's obstructions to work out a deeper security and resources-sharing relationship with Bangladesh. India might find it easier to deal with Nepal, which is again sinking into a state of political instability.

But Pakistan remains the real question. In 2016, Modi took a tough approach to Pakistan after the Uri attack, which included the surgical strikes+ of September 29 and a decision to review the Indus Waters Treaty+ . Official engagement between India and Pakistan remain on hold although humanitarian gestures including prisoner exchange and routine meetings are all on track. But it has given rise to an expectation that some Pakistan outreach may be on the horizon.

During the election campaign, Modi received a lot of popular support for the strikes across the LoC, and his tough approach. He could continue that, using the popular victory as a vindication of his policy. On the other hand, he could use his victory to reach out to the Pakistan leadership.

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Postby SSridhar » 12 Mar 2017 15:56

The curious case of Hafiz Saeed’s detention - Mubashir Zaidi, The Hindu
When Pakistani authorities put India’s most wanted man, Jamaat-ud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed, under preventive detention on January 31 along with his close aides in Lahore, there were very few takers for the action internationally. Even military spokesman Major General Asif Ghafoor’s assurance that it was a national policy decision with the backing of the military could not attract much attention.

India came up with a cautious reaction saying such detentions had happened in the past too, and unless no concrete step was taken to prosecute Saeed, the crackdown made little sense. With no surprise, India is proving to be right again. Almost six weeks have passed and the Pakistani authorities are yet to set up any inquiry committee to recommend trial against the JuD chief and his accomplices as required by Section 11E of the Anti-Terror Act under which Saeed was arrested. It says an inquiry commission should be constituted to probe the matter and file the charge sheet in the court within 60 days.

Instead, Saeed had challenged the government action in the Lahore High Court, as he did in 2008 and 2009. His lawyer A.K. Dogar said it would not be difficult to get him free yet again. “There is no case registered against him and the government has to prove that he was involved in terrorist activity within Pakistan in case it wants the detention to be continued or charge sheet to be filed. I am confident that as per past precedents, the court will eventually set him free,” he claimed.

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The Lahore High Court has already issued notices to the government on the petition of Saeed, but no response has come so far. The case was to be heard on March 7 but the bench has been reconstituted and a new date is yet to be given. Regarding the UN’s designation of the JuD as a terrorist organisation, his lawyers said the same argument was taken up by the government in the past and was rejected by the courts on the basis that the UN never directed the government to arrest Saeed.

Saeed remains at his Model Town residence in Lahore and is holding consultations with his aides over the next plan of action. There were signs that the JuD may take up a political role before the 2018 general elections. Analysts believe any attempt to neutralise the JuD will be resisted. “The JuD is the biggest non-state actor with huge infrastructure, which can be compared with mainstream religious party Jamaat-e-Islami,” says Amir Rana, a security analyst and author of several books, including A to Z of Jehadi Organizations in Pakistan .

In terms of offices and activists, the JuD has the biggest presence in Punjab, in all 36 districts. Similarly, it is also present in 26 districts of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KPK) and 23 districts of Sindh. Sources within the organisation claim that it has operations in 29 out of the 30 districts of the conflict-hit Balochistan, which borders with Afghanistan and Iran. A JuD leader requesting anonymity said the organisation has trained more than 2 million members across Pakistan.

Pressure tactics

Both India and the U.S. have said that Saeed was involved in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks. India has been relentlessly taking up the issue with the U.S. and the UN alleging that Pakistan is not taking action against the perpetrators of the Mumbai attacks. Pakistani authorities claim that India has not presented enough evidence.

An eight-member Pakistani commission, which came to India for recording the statements of witnesses, complained that they were not given any tangible evidence. But media reports claimed in January that the new Donald Trump Administration had warned Pakistan to impose sanctions in case Saeed remained free.

This forced the Pakistani authorities to hasten up a response in January. However, in less than two months, the detention is looking to meet the same fate as the previous detentions. With a new wave of terror hitting Pakistan in February and the focus of the government and the military shifting towards terrorists operating from Afghanistan, Saeed could soon be free again.

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Muslims miss 'sabka saath', down from 69 to 24 MLAs
LUCKNOW: In Uttar Pradesh, where Muslims comprise 19% of the population, the number from the minority community in the House has declined to 24. It's a marked difference from the 2012 polls when 69 Muslim MLAs entered the legislature.
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Postby Falijee » 12 Mar 2017 18:29

Pakistan Govt In Denial About "Tax Evasion" ; World Bank Should Take Note !

Cash business balloons to Rs4.8trillion.

KARACHI: Businesses operating outside the banking net seem to be flourishing in the country.This is reflected by the substantially reduced collection of withholding tax on banking transactions in 2016.According to an estimate, the size of business conducted in cash nearly doubled in one year. Bankers said the size of non-bank or cash-only business is estimated to be Rs4,800 billion, up 85 per cent from a year ago when it stood at Rs2,600bn.
Saudis have "religious police" patrolling their streets; Pakis should have "tax police" patrolling their shops :mrgreen:
They said the collection of withholding tax on banking transactions is below the target and may fall further.Like other medium-size businesses, most dealers of second-hand cars are said to have left the banking net. Dealing in cash is both easier and cheaper than using the banking channels, they said. “We deal in millions in cash each day. It saves us withholding tax, which we believe is not justified,” said Sarfaraz Aalam, a second-hand car dealer in Hyderi Market.
Open defiance of Pakistan's tax laws ! World Bank and other lenders should take note.
Hundreds of cars are sold every day in more than five second-hand car markets in Karachi alone. Market sources said the second-hand vehicle business in other parts of Pakistan follows the same pattern.“We keep cash at home. It is more dangerous to draw cash from banks and carry it around,” said Mr Aalam.A non-filer of income tax return is required to pay 0.4 per cent withholding tax on all banking transactions exceeding Rs50,000 in a day. If a small time second -hand car dealer can openly boast of tax evasion, imagine what kind of different tax evasion scams (including at the Pakistan Stock Exchange ! ) may be going on in Karachi and other Pakistani cities !
The government has shown limited flexibility over the business community’s demand for the abolition of the tax on banking transactions. Instead of eliminating it, the government reduced the rate of withholding tax from 0.6pc to 0.4pc.The business community has been in a defiant mode since the imposition of this tax by resorting to cash-only transactions. Pakis need to do an = = and "copy" Modi-ji's de-monitization policies :mrgreen:
Currency market experts said the circulation of money outside the banking net is bad for the economy.“If the size of cash dealing is close to Rs5 trillion, it simply means black money is not only circulating but also multiplying at a high rate,” said a senior banker.The size of black money is not fully known. But experts believe its largest amount is invested in the property business, as real estate prices continue to soar.Traders said they are not ready to take a hit on their profit margin by paying withholding tax on each transaction that exceeds Rs50,000 in a day.“Cash, dollars and bonds are alternatives to banking transactions,” said a currency dealer. Self promotion of his own currency dealing and wheeling, business :roll:

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Postby Falijee » 12 Mar 2017 19:06

Closing the border

Veteran politician, Afrasiab Khattak speaks out against closure of Pak-Afghan border in this opinion piece.

After its closure in February, the Pak-Afghan border was reopened for two days this week to let thousands of stranded children, women and men on both sides of the border go to their homes. Many trucks and containers loaded with all sorts of goods, some of them perishable, could also proceed to their destinations. The sudden and unilateral closure of the border by Pakistani side last month had created a humanitarian crisis that was deepening with every passing day. So opening the border and providing respite to thousands of stranded people is a positive step. But its closure once again for an indefinite period doesn’t augur well for normalisation of relations between the two close neighbours. Afghanistan does not recognize the artificial Durand Line !
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This isn’t for the first time that the border has been unilaterally closed by the Pakistani side in total violation of the Afghanistan-Pakistan Transit Trade Agreement of 2010. This has become a routine strategy for Pakistan for putting pressure on Afghanistan.
According to the said agreement, Afghan trucks are to enter Pakistan through Torkham (Khyber Agency), Ghulam Khan (North Waziristan) and Speen Boldak (Balochistan). There are five other lesser known crossing points that are manned and formally controlled by both sides. They are Arundu (Chitral), Gursal (Baujore), Nawa Pass (Momand Agency), Kharlachi (Kurram Agency) and Angoor Adda (South Waziristan).
There are hundreds of other crossing points on the 2650 kilometres long Durand Line between Pakistan and Afghanistan (according to one estimate at least 262). So the argument of “blocking the movement of terrorists” across the border in favour of its closure doesn’t hold ground. Why would the terrorists use the crossing points where there are security forces deployed on both sides for controlling the border in the first place. This possibility weakens further when one considers the fact that there are hundreds of uncontrolled and unfrequented routes available for terrorists to use for their cross border movement. The so called border management can be at best a long term project implementable only through bilateral cooperation. Unilateral border blockade actually hurts the prospects of the mutual cooperation on the border management project. And, on top of this, the recent crackdown on Aam Abdul Pashtuns in mainland Pakistan has not helped matters either !
The present confrontation on the borders is further aggravated by heavy Pakistani artillery shelling into Afghan territory and terrorist attacks on some Pakistani border posts causing loss of precious human life on both sides. So what can be the real purpose of closing border indefinitely when the claims of “border management” and “blocking terrorists” do not hold ground? Those who have been carefully following the Pakistani security establishment’s Afghan policy can tell you that we have been here before. In early 1989, the Pakistani supported Afghan Mujahideen had tried to economically strangulate the government of President Dr Najibullah by making an effort for imposing an economic blockade on the routes in eastern and southern Afghanistan. Food supplies were the particular target of that blockade. Unlike the Afghan Mujahideen of that time, the Taliban aren’t able to do it by themselves. They don’t have the capacity. In fact mentors of Taliban on the east of Durand Line are quite disappointed in them although they wouldn’t publicly accept it for obvious reasons. The international community will not tolerate a Taliban type Govt . Pakistan is hoping for a "Taliban-lite" regime where they may hold "influence" and deny the same to India ! Taliban haven’t been able to capture and hold even a single province in the almost three years despite the vast supplies and support received by them. So the conventional wisdom is that an economic blockade will weaken the Afghan Republic, making it vulnerable to the fresh Taliban spring or summer offensive.
t is interesting to note that the obsession of Pakistani security establishment with the Talibanisation of Afghanistan has seriously undermined the economic interests of Pakistan. Since 1991, there has been a lot of talk about accessing Central Asian markets which could have been a game changer for Pakistani economy even better than CPEC in the sense that it wouldn’t have required heavy burden of foreign debts. But the main hurdle on this path has been putting Taliban first to regional trade. Under Taliban controlled Afghanistan, Pak-Afghan annual trade was around 250 million dollars. In the post Taliban era, trade had reached to 2.5 billion dollars and in 2014 both sides had agreed to raise it to 5 billion dollars. Bilateral formal trade between the two countries has drastically decreased and is heading towards zero level due to growing insecurity, tension and border closures. The contradiction between Pakistani policy of regional economic cooperation and her Afghan policy was demonstrated quite dramatically by the fact that the latest border closure came at a time when Pakistan was hosting ECO Summit for promoting region connectivity and economic cooperation. It goes without saying that projects like TAPI and CASA will have no chance of implementation in presence of Taliban militancy.
Growing Indian influence in Pakistan’s western neighbouring country is used as justification for Pakistani support for Taliban. But Pakistani makers of the country’s Afghan policy have never pondered over the fact that their crude pressure over and coercion towards Afghanistan has greatly helped India in gaining further foothold in that country. India has consistently focused on projecting its soft power in Afghanistan by building dams, roads, schools, hospitals and monuments of democracy such as parliament and court buildings. Since Pakistan supported Taliban target all these facilities of public good, it is only natural that Pakistan and her policies receive a negative perception in the minds of common Afghans. Indian policy towards Afghanistan is quite sophisticated when it comes to promoting a soft image. PM Narendra Modi makes it a point to say some Pashto and Dari words in his public speeches in Afghanistan apart from appreciating rich culture of the host country. Even Indian technocrats are so conscious about their soft policy that they call India as economic partner of Afghanistan rather than a donor. In the light of these facts is it surprising to see the expansion of Indian influence in Afghanistan? Pakistan, on the other hand , has not moved away from the broken record theme of "Islamic solidarity" :mrgreen:
Another socio political fallout of a prolonged border closure with Afghanistan is its intended or unintended negative impact on the economic situation of the Pashtuns living in Pakistan. Thousands of Pashtun families including businessmen, transporters and daily wagers depend on transit trade and border trade with Afghanistan. Border closure seriously punishes them. Economic deprivation coupled with recent racial profiling of Pashtun IDPs in Punjab and Sindh can deepen political alienation among them. Pakistan’s bankrupt Afghan policy which brought drugs, klashnikov culture, extremism, sectarian and terrorism in Pakistan in the past can bring ethnic polarisation as well. Can Pakistan remove the albatross of a bankrupt Afghan policy from its neck for becoming a stable and prosperous country is a question crucial for her future. Word of caution to the Paki authorities by this veteran politico !

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 12 Mar 2017 20:38

The Express Tribune > Pakistan > Balochistan
Blast partially damages bridge in Gwadar


ISLAMABAD:
A bomb explosion took place under a bridge on the main Sur Bandar road in Gwadar Sunday morning, according to police officials.The police were reportedly informed about the presence of a bomb under the bridge. However, it exploded before the bomb disposal squad’s arrival at the scene, a private news channel claimed.
The officials said it was a remote-controlled bomb weighing around 5 to 7 kilogrammes.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby ArunK » 12 Mar 2017 21:26

Please watch this video before it disappears from U-Tube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MpfSX7RLss

This should be downloaded and stored. It should be in the first post of this thread. It is in Urdu so it will need translation for those who cannot understand the language.

This discussion is a confessional. This lays bare all the lies that have been peddled by Pakistan in the last 40 years. It is nothing new but this is very necessary to rebut all the bullshit spin peddled by the Pakis on the world stage.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bart S » 13 Mar 2017 02:34

Prem wrote:Pakistan will be paying China $90b against CPEC-related projects
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1352995/pa ... -projects/

KARACHI: Pakistan will end up paying $90 billion to China over a span of 30 years against the loan and investment portfolio worth $50 billion under the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), report of a brokerage house estimated.The estimated return – sum of principal and interest on foreign currency debt and repayment of profits/dividend on equity investment – shows 40% return on investment.“Average annual repayment of CPEC will be $3 billion. {However, in medium term} between fiscal year 2020-25, it will range between $2.0-5.3 billion with average payment of $3.7 billion,” Saad Hashemy, an analyst at the brokerage house, said in a report titled, ‘Pakistan’s External Account Concerns and CPEC Repayment’.Another valid concern is over the repayment of CPEC-related projects. This is because most projects are being funded abroad and Pakistan is not seeing any significant inflow of foreign exchange.


There is something fishy about these numbers. If they are borrowing $50 billion and after 30 years the total repayment is just $90 billion, that is ridiculously cheap. Either they are fudging the numbers somewhere, or China is virtually giving it to them almost interest-free. It could be the latter, with Pakistan locked into extremely high tariffs for power etc.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby GShankar » 13 Mar 2017 02:38

As long as the money is spent on projects executed by chinese companies, the loan is not cheap. Moreover the lizard can squeeze paki balls over repayment and could lead to the lizard taking some land because we know the history of pakis repaying any loan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 13 Mar 2017 05:00

Pakistan Set to Conduct First Census in 19 Years :lol:
Census 2017, first ever to include transgender people[*]

ISLAMABAD — Officials in Pakistan say that arrangements are in place to conduct a national census for the first time in 19 years starting Wednesday, and more than 200,000 troops will assist civilian enumerators in collecting the data.
Information minister Maryam Aurangzeb told a news conferences in Islamabad Sunday the 70-day door-to-door campaign will be concluded in two phases at a financial cost of around $185-million. ( Is CPEC covering the cost :mrgreen: )
“A solider will accompany every civil enumerator and will also collect his own data during the door-to-door campaign. We have put in place a system to immediately verify the information,” Ghafoor said. He added that more than 200,000 soldiers involved in the activity have undergone special training sessions. Is "Deep State" also involved :roll:
Pakistan’s population has exploded since its first consensus in 1951, when it had around 34 million inhabitants.The World Bank estimated in 2015 the country’s population at 190 million, but Pakistani officials still use the figure of 134.7 million from the census conducted in 1998 for planning development programs. Illiterate Aam Abduls allowed to breed like like rabbits and then the govt going around the world begging for their upkeep !!!
Officials say that around three million registered and unregistered Afghan refugees in Pakistan will also be counted in the census. :roll:
Parities in southern Sindh province, particularly in its capital, Karachi, have also opposed the inclusion of Afghans and have demanded the census be postponed until all the refugees return to their country.But government officials have dismissed those concerns as unfounded and politically-motivated.
Pakistan’s transgender community would also be included in the census for the first time in the country’s history. [*](And the info collected will be "used" to extract funds from NGO's and UN Agencies :mrgreen: ) Officials say the U.N. Population Fund has agreed to assign international observers to oversee the administration of the census.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 13 Mar 2017 05:20

Pakistan inducts Chinese-built air defence system to its arsenal

Pakistan, slowly and surely is losing it's sover-virginity and being sucked into the "Chinese orbit", befitting its status as a " strategic ally ". It is already agreed to be part of the Chini Internet System with the internet cable entering Pakistan from the North via the so-called Karakoram Highway. It has already signed off to be a part of the Chinese Satellite System. When all of this is said and done, it will be able to control and monitor, use and abuse the internet and the social media for it`s own propaganda purposes !!!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 13 Mar 2017 06:10

Pakistan Embassy in Ottawa attacks TAREK FATEH in a Letter To The Editor for opposing ISLAMOPHOBIA Motion #M103 sponsored by a Paki Orgin MP in Canada House Of Commons.


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