Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 04:52

" Qadiani Question" Put To Rest :roll:
None of the Pak Army General is “Qadiani”: Military Sources
RAWALPINDI: None of the Pakistan Army General is Qadiani, military sources :roll: have confirmed.
Top military sources say that it is an unwritten principle that any person from ‘Qadiani’ community could never reach the position of Lieutenant General as many checks are placed because of the sensitivity of the issues among general public on this subject.“Almost every year every Muslim officer has to fill a form before joining some training or course declaring in categorical terms that he believes in finality of the Holy Prophet (PBUH) and doesn’t belong to Qadiani/Ahmedi community,”.“All the propaganda in this regard is baseless and wrong and vested interests are behind this move”.

This may or may not be believable, but the announcement at least may "satisfy" the Mullah Brigade, Aam Abduls ( and of course the Saudis :mrgreen: )

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 27 Nov 2016 05:15

Peregrine wrote:ensoy Ji :
Some time back you made the following comment

Here is an Article with a photograph of the ship Cosco Wellington taken from the water :
Chinese navy ships to be deployed at Gwadar: Pak navy official

yensoy wrote:Sir as someone else pointed out, the news article itself admitted only empties were being shipped from Gwadar :-?.

What I do know is that US/NATO has some powerful telescopes in strategic places like Gibraltar to keep watch of what ships pass through and how heavily they are loaded.
COSCO WELLINGTON

Gleaned following information from http://www.marinetraffic.com :

PK KHI - ATD: 2016-11-23 12:02 ---------- LK CMB - ATA: 2016-11-26 16:24

This is getting stupid. The VESSEL WENT TO Dubai from Gwadar, then Karachi and Colombo presumably on its way to the Far East.

Why could it not call in Karachi to load the Cargo of Full Containers (I believe) and Empty Containers without visiting Gwadar but after its visiting Dubai?

The Cwapistanis news is that the Container Cargo from Gwadar was meant for Africa and beyond!

As Dr. Farrukh Saleem said in his Article : Gwadar
Similarly, Chinese products traveling for 7,000 km to 8,000 km all the way to Gwadar make no economic sense. Perhaps, it is all strategic – and our future depends on the strategic choice we make today

So, yensoy Ji, Gwadar "makes no economic sense" and therefor it is Strategic. IOW it is going to be a Chinese Naval and Air Base!
Nothing to do with Gwadar being "the World's Deepest Port etc. & etc."
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 05:19

Orangi Of Pakistan Beats Dharavi Of India !

The Express Tribune > Pakistan > Sindh
Karachi's Orangi Town named largest slum in the world
United Nations World Cities Report 2016 has named Karachi’s Orangi town as the largest among the world’s five largest slums.According to the report the number of slum dwellers in the world increased from 689 million in 1990 to 880 million in 2014. Around a quarter of the world’s urban population lives in slums and the figure is rising fast.

So, now some "enterprising NGO" should arrange a visit from Hollywood icon Oprah Winfrey ( this should ensure an = = :mrgreen: )

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby yensoy » 27 Nov 2016 09:50

Peregrine wrote:So, yensoy Ji, Gwadar "makes no economic sense" and therefor it is Strategic. IOW it is going to be a Chinese Naval and Air Base!
Nothing to do with Gwadar being "the World's Deepest Port etc. & etc."
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35bn$ over 10 years is pocket change for the Chinese if they can get so much presence out of it. It's strategic in the sense that it bridges their countries and straddes both sides of Asia (like the US having two coasts). It also firms the hold on both Baluchistan and Xinjiang. It opens up an alternate route to Afghanistan from China (no longer needing to go via Central Asia).

Economic value is limited. Oil is most certainly not going to be shipped this way. Even if there is war, Chinese strategic petroleum reserves together with oil located in the East (e.g. Sakhalin) or Central Asia is going to be enough to tide over the crisis, just as oil being transported in trucks over Karakoram is not going to make a dent on the situation.

It will be easy for China to reposition men and missiles via CPEC, and provide a safe harbour/logistics hub at Gwadar for Chinese naval interests covering Africa, Middle East and beyond.

It would actually have been different if Pakis could get their act together and build an industrial corridor along the CPEC route especially in Baluchistan - but it won't happen for many reasons (i) harsh terrain with limited water resources (ii) population not the hardworking/industrious type and (iii) lack of will among the Chinese to enable what could be a competitor. Baluchis and Pathans have for generations lived on the backs of traders by extracting taxes from transiting caravans, and will continue this tradition.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby anupmisra » 27 Nov 2016 10:12

The positive side of the LoC standoff. Census not anytime soon if LoC tensions persist

The Pakis­tan Bureau of Statistics (PBS) has not been able to come up with a concrete time frame for conducting the long-awaited sixth population and housing census in the country
The last census was held 17 years ago
PBS estimated it would need around 167,000 army personnel to go door-to-door. In addition, the bureau estimated it would need an additional 20-30,000 personnel to supervise the census operation
given the prevailing conditions on the Line of Control (LoC), it would be next to impossible to spare such a large chunk of human resource from the armed forces


Baki army has 550,000 active troops. Around 200,000 (or 36%) will be needed for the census. Baki HS&D saved by the Yindoos, again.

Harami link: http://www.dawn.com/news/1298901/census ... ns-persist

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Neshant » 27 Nov 2016 10:28

Some of the friendly, neighbourhood terrorists who would be running around in Kashmir today had it not been for the Indian Army systematically culling the herd in the 90s and 2000s.


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby CRamS » 27 Nov 2016 10:42

ParrikarJi is on a roll these days hurting TSP's H&D :-)

http://news.rediff.com/commentary/2016/ ... pdates.htm


09:23 Would gouge out enemy's eyes if provoked: Parrikar: Union Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar on Saturday said India did not seek war, but would "gouge out eyes" of the enemy if provoked.

"We don't itch for a fight, but if someone looks at the country with evil eye, we will gouge his eyes out and put them back in his hand, we have that much power," he said while addressing a rally in Aldona Assembly constituency in Goa.

Goans can tell the world that they had sent a man to the Centre who had slapped the enemy across the face, he said.

"There was no firing on the border for the last three days because if they (Pakistan) fire once, we fire twice at them. We are giving tit-for-tat response, and when they realised it, they approached us, seeking to stop it," Parrikar said in an apparent referrence to the request by Pakistan for DGMO-level talks three days ago.

Asserting that, Armed Forces were fully prepared, Parrikar said his mother had taught him that "even if you are going to hunt a rabbit, be prepared to kill a tiger".


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Prem » 27 Nov 2016 12:21

PM picks Gen Qamar Bajwa to head army
http://www.dawn.com/news/1298904/pm-pic ... -head-army

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minis­ter Nawaz Sharif on Saturday named the new military command, appointing Gen Qamar Javed Bajwa and Gen Zubair Mahmood Hayat as the chief of army staff and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC), respectively, in the hope of stabilising the fragile civil-military balance.The appointments were set in motion by the impending retirement of incumbent army chief Gen Raheel Sharif and CJCSC Gen Rashad Mehmood and put to rest feverish speculation regarding who would succeed Gen Raheel Sharif — the first army chief to retire on time in around two decades.While the office of CJCSC is technically the more senior position — as he serves as the principal military adviser to the prime minister and the National Command Authority (NCA) — the office of army chief is the most prized and arguably the most powerful position in the country.Gen Bajwa was considered as a dark horse in the race for the army’s command and has now superseded Lt Gen Syed Wajid Hussain (chairman of Heavy Industries Taxila), Lt Gen Najibullah Khan (DG Joint Staff Headquarters), Lt Gen Ishfaq Nadeem Ahmed (Corps Commander Multan) and Lt Gen Javed Iqbal Ramday (Corps Commander Bahawalpur).There is an unwritten tradition in the army that superseded officers retire, but there have been exceptions. However, the decision to supersede four generals — particularly the battle-hardened Gen Ishfaq and Gen Javed Ramday — is bound to set tongues wagging among the military’s ranks.The succession may not immediately bring about a major change in policies, but it could still have important implications for ties with India and Afgha­nistan, and domestically for the civil-military equation and the ongoing fight against terrorism.Both Gen Bajwa and Gen Hayat lack the experience of active combat because neither has been posted in a conflict zone.
The army chief-designate is, meanwhile, credited with having spent a considerable part of his military service in the Rawalpindi-based 10 Corps, which is responsible for guarding the Line of Control (LoC). However, his time at the 10 Corps was a period of relative quiet following the 2003 ceasefire accord.This experience could prove invaluable as he takes command amidst serious escalation on the LoC, which saw some of the intense skirmishes since 2003.Gen Bajwa’s relatively more moderate view of the relationship with the civilian government, it is said, proved to be the decisive factor in PM Sharif’s decision.One of Gen Bajwa’s former commanding officers told Dawn the COAS-designate is a strong proponent of the army not intruding into civilian space.Under the watch of the outgoing army chief, the civil-military balance of power had titled more in military’s favour.The fight against terrorism, it is believed, would remain unaffected. Gen Bajwa, his colleagues say, is a firm opponent of extremism and terrorism. According to an insider, he may prove even more forceful in the fight against terrorism than his predecessor, who is credited with launching Operation Zarb-i-Azb, which helped lower the frequency of terrorist attacks.The immediate and foremost issue requiring the new army chief’s attention would be the situation on the LoC, where the violence has escalated over the past two months, even though the relationship has generally been tense ever since Narendra Modi came to power in India.In addition, the supersession of four generals could force a major reshuffle within the top brass if they decide to step down.As a three-star general, he served as director general of the Strategic Plans Division (SPD), which is the secretariat of the NCA, and Bahawalpur corps commander. This made him an ideal choice for the post of CJCSC, which has an almost exclusive jurisdiction over Pakistan’s nuclear forces and assets.He is generally seen as Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani’s protégé..

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 17:38

Now Another Reason To "Postpone" The Census :roll:

Census not anytime soon if LoC tensions persist
ISLAMABAD: The Pakis­tan Bureau of Statistics (PBS) has not been able to come up with a concrete time frame for conducting the long-awaited sixth population and housing census in the country.A meeting was convened by Finance Minister Ishaq Dar to review PBS preparations for the census on Saturday.
Several such meetings have been held since the Council of Common Interests (CCI) ( what kind of "animal" is that :D ) decided to postpone the census in March 2016.
But given the non-availability of army personnel due to escalating tensions along the Line of Control with India, it looks like the census will remain in limbo until the CCI revises its decision.The last census was held 17 years ago.
So, all the military,economic, social and other future estimates for domestic and international organizations are being made on "Sheikh Chilli" statistics :mrgreen:
“We are ready to hold the census,” a senior PBS official told Dawn, but maintained that the decision to conduct census with support from the army was taken in the CCI meeting held in March 2016.
The Paki Army has "ingrained" itself in all sectors of the society - no wonder the apt quotation is applicable : "every country has an army, but in Pakistan, the Army has a State !
Following the decision to involve the army in the census exercise, the PBS estimated it would need around 167,000 army personnel to go door-to-door. In addition, the bureau estimated it would need an additional 20-30,000 personnel to supervise the census operation.
An official statement issued after the meeting said PBS Chief Statistician Asif Bajwa ( related to COAS? :roll: ) gave an overview of the preparations, apprising the meeting that the necessary preparations on the civilian side had been completed, including the release of funds for logistical arrangements, procurement of hardware and appointment of field staff for the census operation.
The first census in Pakistan was conducted in 1951, the second in 1961 and the third in 1972 instead of 1971, due to political turmoil. The fourth census was held in March 1981 and the fifth, which was due in 1991, was conducted in March 1998 with the help of the army.

Under the Constitution, the government is bound to conduct the population census every 10 years. :((

:mrgreen: Pakistani society is not yet ready to face the TRUTH ! The Aam abduls are "breeding" like crazy towards a demographic time - bomb


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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 17:58

Qadiani Mouthpiece Appears To Confirm Rumours That New Army Chief Is An Ahmedi :roll:
Pakistan’s appointment of new Military Chief sparks religious controversy
November 26, 2016 | by Rabwah Times

Appointment of a new military chief in the largely Muslim country of Pakistan has sparked a religious controversy. The new chief, Lieutenant General Qamar Javed Bajwa who is replacing General Raheel Sharif, has been labeled an ‘Ahmadi’ by the country’s right-wing religious nationalists.
The controversy began on November 22nd, when Pakistani Senator, Sajid Meer, published a video on facebook in which he suggested that one of the four Generals being considered for the position of Army Chief had Ahmadi family members. ( so, "guilty" by association ?)
Ahmadis are followers of the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam, which is considered heretic by mainstream Muslims. In 1974 Pakistan passed a constitutional amendment declaring Ahmadis a ‘non-Muslim’ minority. In 1984 Pakistan passed another law which made it a criminal act for Ahmadis to identify as Muslims.Pakistan’s conservative religious and political circles were sent abuzz over the claims and many demanded that the General’s name be taken off the list. Tahir Ashrafi ( Mullah with the "drinking problem" :D ) of Pakistan’s Ulema Council repeated the demand made by Senator Meer.

More fodder for the Mullah Brigade !

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Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 18:24

Two oil company guards shot dead in Gwadar
QUETTA - Two security guards of a private oil and gas exploring company were shot dead by unidentified miscreants in Pasni Town of Gwadar Saturday.
One of the security guards was from Swabi, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, and the others from Sialkot, Punjab.
So, the Baloch Freedom Fighters are practicing "target killings"- sparing the locals and using their "fire" on the "foreigners" :D
MAN KILLED IN IED BLAST
One person was killed and another injured in a landmine blast in the Chattar area of Dera Murad Jamali Saturday.According to police sources, the land mine had been planted by anti-state elements, adding the law-enforcement agencies had rounded up several persons. After the blast, the police and other law-enforcement agencies started search for the miscreants. ( an common word used by the "Deep State" ; also used ( to describe "rebels" during the "East Pakistan " crisis, with devastating results -emergence of BANGLADESH !)


PS: Picture accompanying the story is definitely NOT GWADAR !!!

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 27 Nov 2016 18:55

Peregrine wrote:So, yensoy Ji, Gwadar "makes no economic sense" and therefor it is Strategic. IOW it is going to be a Chinese Naval and Air Base!
Nothing to do with Gwadar being "the World's Deepest Port etc. & etc."
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yensoy Ji :
35bn$ over 10 years is pocket change for the Chinese if they can get so much presence out of it. It's strategic in the sense that it bridges their countries and straddes both sides of Asia (like the US having two coasts). It also firms the hold on both Baluchistan and Xinjiang. It opens up an alternate route to Afghanistan from China (no longer needing to go via Central Asia).
The Figure is now US$ 51 Billion.
Economic value is limited. Oil is most certainly not going to be shipped this way. Even if there is war, Chinese strategic petroleum reserves together with oil located in the East (e.g. Sakhalin) or Central Asia is going to be enough to tide over the crisis, just as oil being transported in trucks over Karakoram is not going to make a dent on the situation.
The Chinese have built the new Port of Kyaukpyu (About 60 Miles from Sitwe - Old Akyab) in Myanmar to receive VLCC and Large Natural Gas Carriers. There are Pipeline both for Oil as well as Natural Gas to Kunming. China receiving Oil via Gwadar is totally uneconomical.
It will be easy for China to reposition men and missiles via CPEC, and provide a safe harbour/logistics hub at Gwadar for Chinese naval interests covering Africa, Middle East and beyond.
That would confirm CPEC and Gwadar are Projects as being of "Strategic Nature."
It would actually have been different if Pakis could get their act together and build an industrial corridor along the CPEC route especially in Baluchistan - but it won't happen for many reasons (i) harsh terrain with limited water resources (ii) population not the hardworking/industrious type and (iii) lack of will among the Chinese to enable what could be a competitor. Baluchis and Pathans have for generations lived on the backs of traders by extracting taxes from transiting caravans, and will continue this tradition.

I would add (iv) The Population has a very low literacy Rate.

So now we wait and see how the Ball Bounces or how the Cocoon Spins.
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Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 19:08

Shias are migrating to Europe in large numbers because of their persecution in Pakistan

Safety under the Arctic belt

Nestled amid the great pines and white oaks of Marsta — a town located 37 kilometres north of the Swedish capital of Stockholm — a single-storeyed wood-framed building in deep red seems no different than countless others sprinkled across the expansive Nordic countryside.

From within its wire-meshed windows, soft yet passionate vocals permeate the serene air — “Najaf ki galiyon mein jo jaana ho.” It is a noha (elegy). Inside, past a narrow hallway in a room dotted with school chairs, a visibly tense man in his late 20s clears his throat to talk. “I wouldn’t have left even if I knew that were I murdered, my killers would have to face justice,” he says.The building is that of the Zainabiya Islamic Centre that serves both as an imambargah and a seminary. The young man is Hassan*, who left Karachi a few years ago with his wife to avoid becoming another statistic in the increasing Shia killings in his homeland.
Pakistan has been feeling the heat of sectarian strife for many years. In the recent spell of violence, hundreds of Shias have been killed either in bomb attacks or drive-by shootings. These include ethnic Hazaras in the northern and south-western parts of the country and just about anyone whose surname is a giveaway in the port city of Karachi. Sipah-e-Sahaba and other sectarian outfits that once spewed anti-Shia venom in one-room madrassas in remote villages in rural belts, have now moved on to the sprawling slums of the cities. With Shia militant groups emerging in response and the government seemingly helpless, the conflict is apparently headed for the worst.

IMO, in Karachi anyone,is a potential target (does not matter, whether you are Muslim or not !), specially if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time !
After conducting special prayers, the cleric distributes ice cream bars — a substitute for the traditional sweets that are eaten as part of the ritual.
Apart from safety to his life, Sweden also offers him the freedom to practice his religion. Hussein says there was a time when there used to be only 400 participants in the Muharram procession. But now around 5,000 Shias participate in the annual mourning ritual. “We are also allowed to do matam [self-flagellation] as long as we do it indoors,” he elaborates.
Over 5,000 kilometres back in the pungent, humid air of Karachi, the mercury is hitting new highs and so are tempers. Several members of the Shia community have gathered near the chief minister’s residence demanding his ouster from office. They believe that the octogenarian chief minister has failed to provide protection to their community. The outrage has been sparked by 11 Shia killings in just a week.

A more suitable migration destination for these discriminated people would be Iran, the citadel of Shia-ism ; they would be more at ease over there, instead in the Artic belt region of Sweden (unless, they themselves want a "taste of the West" ) ; but then,oversees Malsis in the West are not known for integration with the locals !)

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Philip » 27 Nov 2016 19:12

The stuff being spread aboot the new Pig-in-Charge of the Porcine army of Pak, may be by those who lusted after his new job.He should watch his rear orifice."Suckling pig" on a rotisserie is a v.popular dish even by the faithful!

Supposedly an LOC veteran,we know what that means.A piglet keeper.The smell of frying bacon is special,let more of it waft across the LOC from the pigsty to whet the appetite of our troops.We need more pigsticking and boar hunts asap.A cull is required of the "animal farm".

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Postby Peregrine » 27 Nov 2016 19:20

Debt

Exactly forty-five years ago our national debt stood at a paltry Rs30 billion. Imagine, over the past forty-five years our national debt has gone through the roof-from Rs30 billion in 1971 to Rs22,500 billion in 2016. In 2008, when the PPP government took over, per capita debt stood at Rs40,000. The PPP government, in exactly five years, doubled the per capita debt to Rs80,000. In 2013, when the PML-N government took over, per capita debt stood at Rs80,000. The PML-N government, in about three years, has managed to take the per capita debt to Rs115,000.

Exactly three years ago our external debt stood at $48 billion. Imagine, over the past three years our external debt has gone up from $48 billion to $61 billion; a whopping 27 percent in just three years.

For the record, Pakistan has four major sources of dollars: export receipts, remittances from Pakistani workers abroad, foreign investment coming into Pakistan and dollar-denominated loans raised by the state. Alarmingly, over the past three years our exports have gone down from $25 billion to $22 billion. For the record, remittances from Pakistani workers abroad have become erratic since the crash in the price of oil.

Alarmingly, over the past three years foreign investment into Pakistan has gone down from $2.3 billion to $1.5 billion; a whopping 35 percent decline in just three years. Alarmingly, the only thing that has gone up over the past three years is dollar-denominated debt. The billion dollar question is that how would we service this rapidly growing dollar-denominated debt with declining export receipts and falling investment by foreign companies.

To be certain, there is nothing inherently wrong with debt. If loans are invested into projects where the rate of return is higher than the cost of servicing the loan then there shouldn’t be any problem. But, borrowing dollars at interest rates of over seven percent make absolutely no economic sense because debt is a claim on future resources and our future resources are not growing at the rate of interest being paid on the loans. What we are, therefore, heading into is a classic debt trap-a situation in which it will become impossible for us to repay our debts.

Over the past 39 months, the rate of debt growth has been mind-boggling-from Rs16 trillion in June 2013 to over Rs22 trillion as of September 2016. The state of Pakistan has been borrowing an average of Rs2 trillion a year or an average of Rs5 billion a day every day of the past 39 months. Those are phenomenal amounts of borrowings. Imagine, all the debt that Pakistan accumulated over her entire life span close to 30 percent has been taken over by the current PML-N government (over the past 39 months).

By 2020, within the next four years, if our debt continues to grow at the current rate of growth, Pakistan will be indebted to the tune of over Rs32 trillion (not including CPEC-related debt). By 2025, with a debt load of over Rs43 trillion, Pakistan will not be able to service the outstanding debt and maintain essential national services at the same time.

Remember, “creditors have better memories than debtors”.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 22:21

[quote="Peregrine"]Debt

PEREGRINE-JEE:

Some "observations" on the Pakistani "DEBT" TIME BOMB

- The debt rose from Rs 30 Billion ( 1970) to Rs 22,500 Billion ( 2016) :shock: ( the Fin Minister is only parroting the increase in foreign exchange reserves!)
- The Paki Govt (present and future ) has TWO choices :
(i)Agree to pay debt in future or "go through the motions" of doing the same - this, it is currently doing (
(ii) Repudiate the debt (suggested by late [gen] Hamid Gul - and be treated as an international pariah in world circles :cry:
- Pakis are obviously banking (and blackmail potentiality ) on their "two assets"- their so-called status as an Islami nuclear "takat" bomb- "bom falling in rebel hands, blah, blah, blah , their so-called geo -strategic location and the "too big to fail state" ; so present status quo to continue !
- They are "depending" on their benefactors (Massa, China) to keep them "above water" ( so the "begging" will continue )
- As many have observed, they are "shamelessly" burdening their future generations .
- This situation will go on indefinitely , with Pakistan opting for "haircuts" :D ie partial reductions or write off - another form of begging !

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Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 22:28

General Qamar Javaid Bajwa has served under ex. Indian Army Chief :eek:
“In the UN operations, Gen Bajwa’s performance was totally professional and outstanding,” Gen Singh was quoted as saying by Times of India as he described the time when Gen Bajwa had served under him on a United Nations assignment in Congo.

Echendee factor ? no = = here? :D

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Postby Peregrine » 27 Nov 2016 22:34

X Posted on the CWT and Islam and Islamophobia Threads

China asks Muslims to oppose religious extremism, reject foreign influence

BEIJING: China has asked its Muslim population to "resolutely oppose religious extremism" and adhere to the concept of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" while practicing their religion.

The statement came from Wang Zuo'an, chief of the state administration for religious affairs, at the 10th National Congress of Chinese Muslims. Wang indicated that the government was worried about foreign influence over Muslims in China at a time when major acts of terrorism were being carried out by terrorists in different parts of the world.

Wang also expressed concern about new mosques being in Muslim populated areas were copying designs from shrines in foreign countries instead of relying on Chinese traditions in mosque building. New mosques should demonstrate Chinese characteristics and national features, he said.

China's Communist officials have often said that Muslim fundamentalism, which has overseas influence, is responsible for the growth of terrorism in Xinjiang, which borders Pakistan.

The government would disallow any attempt by Muslim religious groups to interfere in the process of governance, Wang said. Any "religious interference" in the fields of politics, justice and education is "intolerable", the official media said on Sunday quoting from Wang's speech.

China has been apprehensive about the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in Pakistan, which borders the western Chinese region of Xinjiang that has a vast Muslim population. Communist leaders have earlier indicated that terror camps in Pakistan have supplied arms and other forms of support to separatists in Xinjiang who occasionally indulge in grave violence.

Wang's statement came two days after a government order asking people with passports in Xinjiang to hand over the documents to local police stations for "examination and management".

"Anyone who needs the passport must apply to the police station," the Beijing based Global Times quoted an anonymous police officer in Aksu prefecture of Xinjiang.

The government has also been worried that some Muslims from the province would join the jihadists from Islamic State in Syria and other places, informed sources said.

In his speech, Wang also asked the Islamic Association of China (IAC) should encourge the Islamic clergy to foster the concept of socialism with Chinese characteristics and actively carry out friendly exchange with foreign countries, Wang
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby yensoy » 27 Nov 2016 22:35

Peregrine wrote:Debt


Sirji or someone please explain to me how or why USD PKR is holding steady at 104-105 when currencies like INR and CNY are getting whacked by the rising Dollar almighty?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 27 Nov 2016 22:36

New Paki COAS is NOT Tech - Savvy
General Qamar Javaid Bajwa social media accounts report clarified :roll:

...Director General Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lt. General Asim Saleem Bajwa ( are they related ?) stated in a tweet message on Sunday.
In the meantime, it is clarified that the COAS designate General Qamar Bajwa has zero presence on social media.All facebook/twitter or other SM platforms ids & accounts on his name are fake. :roll:

IOW, the new COAS, is "computer illiterate"? :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rishi Verma » 27 Nov 2016 22:50

Falijee wrote:Shias are migrating to Europe in large numbers because of their persecution in Pakistan

Safety under the Arctic belt

A more suitable migration destination for these discriminated people would be Iran, the citadel of Shia-ism


No Sweden is better, because
a) it's further away from India than Iran :wink: b) can't wait to see them pelting themselves bloody with Ikea nail-boards in the bitter Swedish cold during the Ashura "festival"

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby RCase » 28 Nov 2016 00:33

^^^
Why should they be granted asylum by Sweden? They already got their own homeland for Muslims of the sub-continent, no? Else, why can't they embrace the ONLY one-true-religion of peace of Papistan?

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Peregrine » 28 Nov 2016 01:05

Peregrine wrote:Debt

yensoy wrote:Sirji or someone please explain to me how or why USD PKR is holding steady at 104-105 when currencies like INR and CNY are getting whacked by the rising Dollar almighty?
yensoy Ji:
Dar is keeping the US$-PKR rate "artificially High so that the Rich can get their "Imported Goods" for a lesser amount of Toilet Paper.

This is playing hell with the Export Trade but then when did the Cwapistani Leaders ever think about the "Rest of the Mango Abduls and Burqa Bilkises"?
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Postby Peregrine » 28 Nov 2016 01:08

Fully X Posted on the PESW Thread

Pakistan's leather garment exports on a continuous decline
KARACHI: Pakistan Leather Garments Manufacturers and Exporters Association (PLGMEA) Chairman Atif Ashraf said on Saturday that exports of Pakistan’s leather garment industry are on a continuous decline while the government has no clue of the challenging situation.
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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SBajwa » 28 Nov 2016 01:52

by manju
sbajwa is a very devout and pious man. during his tenure at one location , he was reciting quran very loudly..his junior ( also his close frnd) complained about the noise and Bajwa reprimanded his friend ..and the need to recite quran loudly and daily..he is as devout as they get. heard this on a Pak talk show..

I am a very devout and pious man but I believe in Sri Guru Grant Sahib and for me Qamar Javed Bajwa is nothing but an Inbred who believes that "Bajwa" as a last name will do him good, as a Sunni Muslim he is not suppose to use the last name of Jutts! All Muslim Bajwas (because of them marrying with their first cousins) are not from the clan of the hawk (Baj = Hawk).

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Bart S » 28 Nov 2016 01:59

by manju
sbajwa is a very devout and pious man. during his tenure at one location , he was reciting quran very loudly..his junior ( also his close frnd) complained about the noise and Bajwa reprimanded his friend ..and the need to recite quran loudly and daily..he is as devout as they get. heard this on a Pak talk show..


Glad to see that Pakis continue to be reassuringly retarded.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Falijee » 28 Nov 2016 02:38

Militants kidnap six Pakistanis working for Polish oil firm in Dera Ismail Khan
Reuters
Six Pakistanis working for a Polish oil and gas surveying company have been kidnapped near Dera Ismail Khan, military sources told Reuters, years after a Polish engineer from the same company was beheaded by militants.
Geofizyka Krakow, a subsidiary of Poland's state-run gas firm PGNiG, could not be immediately reached for comment. On its website, the PGNiG local unit said it had gone into liquidation in August 2016.“They were sub-contractors providing works for Geofizyka Krakow, a company which is now in liquidation. They were not Polish,” a PGNiG spokesman said. He declined to give any more details.
A Polish foreign ministry spokeswoman tweeted[u] that there were no Polish citizens in the group and that the Polish embassy in Islamabad is monitoring the situation.

Subliminal message to Pakis - sorry, but no help from us! company bankrupt ; not our citizens !
Meanwhile , a sarcastic comment posted by a local , in response to the above :
Awan about 6 hours ago
I hope the most perfect police of KP will solve this riddle. Afterall according to PTI KP police has ended almost all the crime and almost all incidents of kidnapping and other crimes are gone already. DI Khan must be in Punjab then in my view or somehow it is the failure of Nawaz Sharif that no proper security was given to this company despite the given SOPs.:lol:

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Postby Falijee » 28 Nov 2016 03:24

Defence Minister Khawaja Asif "Under Fire" In Paki National Assembly

Tit-for-tat action against India ruled out :roll:

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan reiterated on Friday that it would not respond in kind to Indian aggression but vowed to defend its borders, waters and space against any attacks by the neighbouring country.Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and Adviser to the Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz presented policy statements in the National Assembly on Friday hinting that Pakistan was ready for talks with India provided that the Kashmir issue was included in the agenda.
They said the government was taking up the matter of Indian aggression along the Line of Control with the United Nations and the rest of the world to press India to stop the ongoing escalation in held Kashmir and along the world to press India to stop the ongoing escalation in held Kashmir and along the LOCWhere "action" is lacking, words make up the slack - the usual boasting !Doval-ji's and Modi-ji's new policy of "offensive defensive" appears to be working :twisted:
MNA Ijazul Haq (Zia's son) informed the house that India had a 7km-wide buffer zone across the border where no civilian locality was allowed. However, Pakistan did not even have a 1km-wide buffer zone.( Deliberate Paki policy to merge state and non-state actors among civilian population !) He urged the government to teach India a lesson. The Indian high commissioner was summoned to the Foreign Office 16 times since the aggression began, but nothing came of it, he said. :P
As yet no foreign government has come out in support of Pakistan or blamed India for this new escalation ! :D

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby SSridhar » 28 Nov 2016 08:37

This is what gave Qamar Bajwa an edge in the race for Pak army chief post, according to Pak media - PTI
General Qamar Bajwa+ 's "pro-democracy credentials" and his low profile influenced Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif+ to appoint him to the powerful post of army chief superseding four top generals, Pakistani media and experts commented on Sunday.

"A careful review of General Bajwa's profile clearly reflects that his pro-democracy credentials earned him the post of Chief of Army Staff+ ," leading Pakistani newspaper The News commented, a day after Prime Minister Sharif appointed Gen Bajwa to succeed Gen Raheel Sharif as the army chief.

The media commented that Prime Minister Sharif wanted to appoint an army chief who should be military expert as well as backing democracy in the Islamic nation.

The military has been in charge of the country for more than half of Pakistan's nearly 70-year history since independence from Britain.

"All the four generals being considered for the post of COAS were passed out from military academy on the same day but undoubtedly General Bajwa has an experience more diversified than all others. General Bajwa's caliber, credentials, experience and holding the biggest core also helped him to be appointed the Chief of Army Staff," the report said.

Another leading daily, Dawn said, "Gen Bajwa's relatively more moderate view of the relationship with the civilian government, it is said, proved to be the decisive factor in Prime Minister Sharif's decision."

One of Gen Bajwa's former commanding officers told the paper that the COAS-designate is a "strong proponent of the army not intruding into civilian space."

Under the watch of the outgoing army chief Sharif, the civil-military balance of power had titled more in military's favour, the report said.

With his elevation as army chief, Gen Bajwa has now superseded Lt Gen Syed Wajid Hussain (chairman of Heavy Industries Taxila), Lt Gen Najibullah Khan (DG Joint Staff Headquarters), Lt Gen Ishfaq Nadeem Ahmed (Corps Commander Multan) and Lt Gen Javed Iqbal Ramday (Corps Commander Bahawalpur).

Dawn also said that Prime Minister Sharif named the new military command, appointing Gen Bajwa and Gen Zubair Mahmood Hayat as the Chief of Army Staff (COAS) and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC), respectively, in the hope of stabilising the fragile civil-military balance.

While the office of CJCSC is technically the more senior position -- as he serves as the principal military adviser to the prime minister and the National Command Authority (NCA) -- the office of army chief is the most prized and arguably the most powerful position in the country, the paper said.

Bajwa, an infantry officer, has commanded the famed 10 Corps, the army's largest, which is responsible for guarding the area along the Line of Control (LoC) with India.

On a personal level, Gen Bajwa is said to be witty, accessible, well-connected with the troops and not fond of the limelight.

Bajwa is the fourth officer from the infantry's Baloch Regiment to become the army chief. Before him, Gen Yahya Khan, Gen Aslam Beg and Gen Kayani rose to that position.

Meanwhile, PML-N Senator, Lt General (Retired) Abdul Qayyum said there was no difference in the credentials of all the four generals who were considered for the top slot in army. However it was prime minister's discretion to appoint anyone among the four candidates.

"Prime Minister definitely wanted an army chief who is supportive of democratic system in the country, who believes in the supremacy of Parliament and who could work for the betterment of the country.

"These were the major points what I believe the prime minister would have taken into consideration before appointing the COAS. I believe General Qamar Bajwa possesses all these elements due to which he has been given the top slot in Pakistan Army," Gen Qayyum told The News.

To a question about General Bajwa's positive role in the 2014 anti-government sit in, he said he was not sure about any such information however if he had played a positive role, it was his duty as they took oath to protect the Constitution of Pakistan.

On Prime Minister Sharif's decision to supersede four generals, Gen Qayyum said it was prime minister's prerogative.

"The premier wanted an all rounder for the top slot in Pakistan Army who could not only run the institution of Pak Army but his relation with the civil government was also important," he said.

Former Corp Commander Karachi Lieutenant General (Retired) Sajjad Ghani said there was no major difference in the credentials of the four candidates for the top slot.

However it was up to the prime minister's discretion who saw his suitability in terms of working relations with the civilian government. Therefore, he said this was not a surprise for those who were aware of the system of Pakistan Army.


History, it seems, hasn't taught the Pakistanis in general and Nawaz Sharif, in particular, anything it seems. Appointments to the high office of COAS are fraught with great danger to the PM. But, then, do they have any control over their fate having decided seven decades back that come what may, their sole objective is their obsession with India?

COAS Ayub Khan was inducted by President Iskander Mirza (of Mir Jaffer lineage) in his cabinet and Ayub promptly ousted him and exiled him. Ayub himself was forced to relinquish by his chosen COAS Yahya Khan.The middle level officers of the Pak Army revolted and removed Yahya Khan. The new President ZA Bhutto 'carefully' chose Zia-ul-Haq whom he called as his 'monkey General' and who dutifully opened ZAB's car door whenever an opportunity presented. But, then, he not only grabbed power from him, but also hanged him. In her first term, ZAB's daughter, Pinky was thrown out by Pres. Ghulam Ishaq Khan under orders from COAS Mirza Aslam Beg. In her second term, she therefore appointed 'uncle' Farooq Leghari, a close family friend and a staunch PPP member, as the President, but he too dismissed her from power.

Nawaz chose Asif Nawaz Janjua as the COAS who was allegedly poisoned to death by Nawaz himself as he turned against him in handling the Afghan & Karachi situations. After Janjua's death, the 'mild-mannered' Waheed Kakkar was 'carefully chosen' but he forced his PM out with the help of President Ghulam Ishaq Khan (who was also eased out immediately by the same General). When Nawaz came to power a second time, he appointed the Tableeghi Jamaat member, Rafiq Tarar, as the President and mohajir Musharraf as his 'carefully chosen' COAS. Musharraf put Nawaz in solitary-confinement in Attock and later exiled him for ten years to the Desert Kingdom. Nawaz just escaped the same fate as ZAB due only to foreign intervention. Musharraf also threw Tarar out of his office. Musharraf himself was packed off by his 'carefully chosen' COAS Kiyani. Nawaz yet again chose Raheel Sharif over others and the balance tilted completely towards the military. The relationship between him and the COAS was very painful. He has chosen, after very careful consideration, another COAS who is claimed to be a "strong proponent of the army not intruding into civilian space." This also has to end in the same painful way for Nawaz because, *ALL* his earlier four COAS appointees caused him immense pain.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby shiv » 28 Nov 2016 08:54

yensoy wrote:
Peregrine wrote:Debt


Sirji or someone please explain to me how or why USD PKR is holding steady at 104-105 when currencies like INR and CNY are getting whacked by the rising Dollar almighty?

Not an expert, but INR used to be that way before the currency was "floated" to change value with respect to other currencies. PKR value has been fixed. This ensures that even when PKR is worthless or worth only 150 to the dollar - rich pakis can buy dollars at artificial low rates in Pakistan.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby habal » 28 Nov 2016 09:03

Qadian tehsil in Indian punjab is a borough of the bajwa clan who are debating among themselves who should stand for AAP, & who should represent Cong. It seems many of Ghulam Ahmed's followers in pakjab are from this clan as well, so it goes without saying that bajwa coas himself is being held guilty by association by vested interests in Pakistan.

Even Musharraf whose wife was qadiani did much for closer relations once he was elected as president.

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Postby Kashi » 28 Nov 2016 10:12

SSridhar wrote:He has chosen, after very careful consideration, another COAS who is claimed to be a "strong proponent of the army not intruding into civilian space." This also has to end in the same painful way for Nawaz because, *ALL* his earlier four COAS appointees caused him immense pain.


SSridharJi, I believe that for Nawaz there simply was no choice. As you said, he probably realised by now that whomsoever he chooses, is unlikely to stray much from the present TSPA strategy of controlling the strings from the background without accountability- the "soft" coup. Nawaz himself is aware that unless there is a complete breakdown of relations with the US, a "hard" coup is unlikely to happen. China for all its support simply cannot and will not replace the billions that US has pumped into TSP so far.

So for Nawaz it was just just going through the motions of choosing the next army chief- a pretense to show to the world that Pakistan is a democratic country where the civilian government decides the appointment and tenure of the next service chief. Nawaz will continue to meekly cede more authority to the fauj as and when demanded.

This is why I am sceptical of claims that Nawaz "successfully" resisted the demands of Raheel to hand over CPEC to the army. It was another pretense. Raheel got everything else that he wanted, so why not CPEC? It's just because the fauj is unwilling to take the responsibility for CPEC until it starts laying the hypothesised "golden eggs". If that ever happens, TSPA will smoothly inject itself into every aspect of CPEC without a shot. They probably understand the reality of CPEC better than most.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby abhijitm » 28 Nov 2016 10:17

Old COAS recommends new COAS, NS gets to appoint new COAS, new COAS decides to retain NS as his prime minister.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby putnanja » 28 Nov 2016 10:18

I wonder how the civilian govt has the info to decide whether the Lt Generals are moderate/extremist/democracy-friendly etc given that all intelligence agencies function under the army. No wonder all of the generals selected by PMs who were thought to be moderate/democracy-friendly turned against them at the first opportunity!

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Postby habal » 28 Nov 2016 10:18

Nawaz has chosen would be misleading, once list of 4 generals was forwarded to PM the entire PM coterie, PM secretariat and diplomatic community (western) in Islmbad had plumped for gen. bajwa. While as per media reports rawalpindi based army sources were rooting for ishfaq nadeem.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby habal » 28 Nov 2016 10:19

putnanja wrote:I wonder how the civilian govt has the info to decide whether the Lt Generals are moderate/extremist/democracy-friendly etc given that all intelligence agencies function under the army.


hearsay & western intelligence reports.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby svinayak » 28 Nov 2016 10:28

putnanja wrote:I wonder how the civilian govt has the info to decide whether the Lt Generals are moderate/extremist/democracy-friendly etc given that all intelligence agencies function under the army. No wonder all of the generals selected by PMs who were thought to be moderate/democracy-friendly turned against them at the first opportunity!

Puppet govt and puppet Army are carefully groomed and watched. The officers are sent to foreign training when they are are evaluated for their world view and ideology esp. for Pak Army.

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Re: Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan- November 7, 2016

Postby Rohit_K » 28 Nov 2016 10:29

Folk singer shot dead by two motorcyclists in KPK
http://dailytimes.com.pk/khyber-pakhtun ... orcyclists

SWABI: A folk singer was shot dead by two unidentified motorcyclists on Saturday at Zareen Abad village in Kotha Union Council in the jurisdiction of City Police Station, Topi, police sources said.

A local folk singer Darvaish Khan was at his home when someone knocked at the door. Darvaish Khan received two motorcyclists at his door, who sprayed bullets over him as soon as he stepped out of the door. Darvaish Khan was killed on the spot as the attackers fled the scene. No immediate cause behind the killing was found however the locals claimed that the attack by unknown persons indicated that it was some militant group who was against music and singers. On the other hand, the police claimed that Darvaish Khan had two wives and the incident was probably caused by a dispute between the two women.


Stage Actor Kismat Baig Shot Dead In Lahore
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/stage-ac ... re-1630316

LAHORE: A theatre actress has been shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Lahore, the capital of Pakistan's Punjab province.

Kismat Baig was returning to her house after performing at a stage play when gunmen riding a car and a motorcycle intercepted her and opened fire at her last evening, police said. She was shot eleven times in her legs, stomach and hands. Ms Baig and her driver were rushed to the Services Hospital where she died because of profuse bleeding, police said.

Police suspect that her 'estranged lover' may be behind her murder. Investigating Officer Asghar Husain told reporters that it was a target killing. "The attackers were waiting outside the theater and when she left for home they chased her," he said. "Kismat now you will not be able to dance," one of the gunmen said after spraying bullets on her legs, according to her driver.


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