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ldevji: If u were one of the JCS, ur undies would be in a knot, hain? Basically told that you are as welcome and appreciated as the "3rd Little Cheney at a wedding". A guy whom you denied promotion on the grounds that he was wacko, is now going to decide when America can and should go to war.
The JCS are professional soldiers, and have reached the zenith of their profession. Nowhere to go except out. So they are likely to give sensible advice. Now Bannon and Flynn are going to be the advice-givers, and both are nothings except for the position where they serve at the pleasure of a certifiable POTUS. I'd say that the Doomsday clock should be moving to 11:59:35.

What I am really worried about is The Big Event, and if something happens there, the Reaction.
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Rumors flying thick and fast about h1 holders asked about actual project work and denied entry if no link between payroll employee and place of work.
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Per my reading of novels while the theater commands mainly run the nuts and bolts of war...the chief of the sac and norad and joint chiefs are expected to be airborne or under cheyenne mountain in defcon <=2

The joint chief was on the phone and explaining the ghawk drone footage when obl strike was ongoing in that photo...so not just fuddy daddy margdarshaks
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Gus wrote:Rumors flying thick and fast about h1 holders asked about actual project work and denied entry if no link between payroll employee and place of work.
The h1 l1 abusers were due for a reset and cleanup. As also the tri valley univ visa opt mills. You have read all about it and know the unpleasant truth esp about hordes of vidyarthis from a certain indian state how they are somehow managing the f1 opt h1 route
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Of course....I have personally not done anything illegal in immigration law and do not approve of abuse of laws

I also do not think massa as some sole property of white man. If folks want to go there and try their luck, all power to them.
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Quite true. Immi abuse is not the province of desis alone. Cheen mideast latino and easteuro biraders surely have their own ecosystems opaque to those outside the box.
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Gus wrote:Rumors flying thick and fast about h1 holders asked about actual project work and denied entry if no link between payroll employee and place of work.
Not sure if I fully understand your post but have always felt restrictive immigration will simply move more jobs offshore.

The small section of the capital markets that I am familiar with is fatally dependent on H1 workers. The largest banks back and middle offices cannot function without these H1 workers. They all have the infrastructure to move all work overseas.

There will be a ribbon cutting ceremony in Birmingham AL were the bank will open 25 key punching jobs and Pence/Trump will be there to take bows. But 5000 jobs will have been moved from Jersey City to Bangalore and Chennai.
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http://www.firstpost.com/world/not-visa ... 23890.html
In an interview with ABC News, the US President was asked: "Why are we (America) going to allow people (from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan) to come into this country..."

To this, Trump answered, "We're going to have extreme vetting in all cases. And I mean extreme. And we're not letting people in if we think there's even a little chance of some problem. We are excluding certain countries. But for other countries, we're gonna have extreme vetting. It's going to be very hard to come in. Right now it's very easy to come in. It's gonna be very, very hard. I don't want terror in this country," he added.
This video says so - https://youtu.be/SkHa2-c_8Pk?t=20m
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krisna wrote:what will all these protests in massaland.

if only these protests were directed against muslim countries embassies in usa with less than half strenghth ,more awareness and actions would have resulted in better outcomes to liberals and muslims.

but but it is always non muslims who are at fault.


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terrorism has no religion but because of ban on some countries , more terrorism will emerge in those countries ironically these terrorists magically will have no religion.


amazing.
There is even more amazing solution that is being proposed by "Islam cannot be questioned" group. The solution lies in cracking this puzzle: since terrorism has no religion, even if there is one, it definitely and positively is not Islam. In fact some of the buddhi jeevis have proposed to become Muslim and some of the not so recent protests were spear headed by hijab promoting intellectuals, with slogan "A hijab a day, keeps insanity away". Well the wet-dreams of some of these buddhi jeevis (like albirght) solution: to really become free of terrorism, since Islam is definitely and positively is not a religion associated with terror, the way forward is for US to convert to Islam. What an idea :!: Then Kumbayah can follow, with peas, prosperity and roo afzha for everyone. Dang! Huma-Hillary team did not make it into the office, what a missed opportunity to recalibrate all the directions with respect to Mecca.
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WHOTUS says GC holders shouldn't have problem.
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Singha wrote:
Gus wrote:Rumors flying thick and fast about h1 holders asked about actual project work and denied entry if no link between payroll employee and place of work.
The h1 l1 abusers were due for a reset and cleanup. As also the tri valley univ visa opt mills. You have read all about it and know the unpleasant truth esp about hordes of vidyarthis from a certain indian state how they are somehow managing the f1 opt h1 route
This was due thanks to O'bomber krupya - Neufeld Memo(s). The memo effects hit it's peak during the 2010 timeframe but eased off.
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http://www.firstpost.com/world/pakistan ... 26780.html

I will be quite surprised if this happen. Pakis have deep rooted relations with US SD and the new boss of US SD also not that anti pakis.
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Quebec canada...5 dead in mosque shooting

3 gunmen opened fire on 40 people in prayer
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Cnn

Starbucks says it plans to hire 10,000 refugees over five years in the 75 countries where it does business.
Chairman and CEO Howard Schultz outlined the company's plan in a memo sent to employees Sunday in response to President Trump's executive order banning travel from seven Muslim majority countries.
"We are living in an unprecedented time," Schultz wrote in the memo, which listed several actions the company says it is taking to "reinforce our belief in our partners around the world."

The refugee hiring proposal, Schultz wrote, will begin with a focus on people who have served with U.S. troops as interpreters and support personnel.
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This is the best time to hammer those US based "sick-u-liars" (read Angana Chatterjee and her ilks).
I haven't seen any signature campaign by these hypocrites to slam the Trump Govt citing "intolerance".
This is the time for them to do award/degree/reward Wapasi. .... Do we have their e-mails so that
we can flood them with such requests?
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http://www.news18.com/news/tech/sundar- ... 42426.html

Why can't these silicon valley CEO idiots keep quite for some time and see how things develop. 167 employees? What happens if some of them do something wrong and people get killed?

Canadian idiots welcoming Syrians etc with open arms and now there is an attack on Masque. If some white fellows are doing this now, I wonder what will happen to the social situation there.
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May be it's time for a law that requires companies like Google who want to take risk of hiring employees from questionable region to carry insurance for anything that goes wrong due to them. That should include even donating money by them to any organization that can be traced to have connection with terror.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/worl ... .html?_r=0

So Obomber admin just planned it and handed over the task to DT admin. Indecisiveness at its worst.

Activism at its idiotic best.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2017/01/29 ... gration-o/
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imo in the broader context, every ecosystem runs its course and the usa society and economy is no longer in a position to suck a vast number of STEM or itvity students and workers from all over and give them a seat at the table and a long term future. nothing good or bad in it, just evolution and the tides of economic structures as they change over time. whoever has something in hand (ie the country) will always be loathe to welcome more competition just as indians would not welcome 200mil bangladeshis integrated into a economy still struggling to create jobs to match growth rate.

so the fat blob of indics who inside in 90s and early 200s represent the stomach of the python, with the front part reaching back into 1960s in a thin mostly F1->GC STEM chain and another thinning part post 2005 thats likely to get even thinner. in future we are more likely to see just selected Phd students go there as I am sure laws will be enacted to accomodate the local students and minorities more. visa mills will be hit - hard.

I think its almost certain the indian IT industry will be hit hard on the h1 and L1 front. more preference will be given to US cos hiring locally there other h1 or from f1 opt pool.

in the wider pov, certain nations like india, china, south korea, taiwan and japan whose students have benefitted a lot from the availability of the US univ system to "export" themselves into the US have to plan for a future in which the careers of their bright and aspirational pupils do not depend on the whims and mercies of the US. this means pulling our pants up on a lot of fronts because we have a lot of good students and lag the most among the names I mentioned in the other stuff - liveable cities, promotion of r&d in univs and "national champions" , tieups with foreign univs, bringing down the cost of private education by govt decree and oversight and stop them being black money mills ..... extortion schemes like BLR and GGN which provide poor civic services , extract huge bribes from the upper middle class (tanker water, diesel for generators, road taxes, RTO, property regn) have to wound up with a iron mace and put back on track if we are to compete with east asia....and the world.
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krisna wrote:ombaba banned 7 times muslim nations at different times in his presidency.
In somebody's fevered imagination only.
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Not really. Obomber kicked out much more Mexicans than Bush and killed many women and children without any hesitation. Destroyed at least four states Ukraine Yeman, Lybia, Syria. Tried to do much more in colour dramas but failed. So he is not exactly a dove.
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This from national review (don't know if its RW, but anyways for some facts)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... t-hysteria
First, the order temporarily halts refugee admissions for 120 days to improve the vetting process, then caps refugee admissions at 50,000 per year. Outrageous, right? Not so fast. Before 2016, when Obama dramatically ramped up refugee admissions, Trump’s 50,000 stands roughly in between a typical year of refugee admissions in George W. Bush’s two terms and a typical year in Obama’s two terms.
In 2002, the United States admitted only 27,131 refugees. It admitted fewer than 50,000 in 2003, 2006, and 2007. As for President Obama, he was slightly more generous than President Bush, but his refugee cap from 2013 to 2015 was a mere 70,000, and in 2011 and 2012 he admitted barely more than 50,000 refugees himself.
For all the Democrats’ wailing and gnashing of teeth, until 2016 the Obama administration had already largely slammed the door on Syrian-refugee admissions. The Syrian Civil War touched off in 2011. Here are the Syrian-refugee admissions to the U.S. until Obama decided to admit more than 13,000 in 2016:
Fiscal Year 2011: 29
Fiscal Year 2012: 31
Fiscal Year 2013: 36
Fiscal Year 2014: 105
Fiscal Year 2015: 1682
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Dems to things silently and then when the GOP does the same things blame them as racist etc. HC is a hawk and was allowed to run her agenda by Obomber who later continued the same plans. But somehow DT is this crazy warmonger. Obomber directly and indirectly killed countless Muslims, but DT ban is evil.
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USA (United States of Andhra) has reached critical mass. Every household in Andhra has at least one person in USA. The entire economy of tier 3 cities in Andhra has totally integrated with USA. The tier3 cities which used to stink have now not even mosquitoes. The roads are super clean, the first generation people regularly spend 6 months in a year in USA., come back and make their colonies super clean. The second generation is usually 50% in US, and the remaining 50% aspiring a career or business in USA. The third generation kids love their grand parents in India and spend time happily, rather than used to criticize like the 2nd generation. The third generation is more into spirituality and watch chaganti's pravachanams.

This thing will continue unless India became a Hindu Terrorist country.

What I was surprised with was that there is a guy 20years old, studying in mechanical engineering in the galli near my home town, with a request to me to recommend him for 3 months training in Toyota work shop known to me, as he wants to start a Toyota service center in Michigan, as soon as he graduated and goes to do MS there. I monitored his progress, he turned out to be extremely skillfull mechanic and also he commanded very good respect from his fellow workers.

The work shop manager was literally after me to ask that guy to join the work shop as supervisor as soon as he graduated, ready to give him salary and benefits twice that of the most revered company. But the guy's grandpa already arranged 2crores to send him to Michigan, Michigan or miyapur, there's no difference you know...
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I know people who have no job and poverty levels are quite bad. NRI based economy is good for visuals but does not present the complete picture. My native place is quite dirty, and it is a municipal corporation which won a national award for cleanness.
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Future tense! Indian techies, students in US could face tough times - Neha Alawadhi, Surabhi Agarwal & Jochelle Mendonca, Economic Times
The Trump administration could make life more difficult for legal immigrants to the US who are on H-1B visas, a large chunk of which is used by the Indian information technology industry.

According to leaked drafts of four executive orders said to be under consideration by the White House, one deals with “Limiting legal immigration: Protecting American Jobs and Workers by Strengthening the Integrity of Foreign Worker Visa Programs”
, reported vox.com. The draft seeks “improved monitoring of foreign students” and allows for “site visits” of workplaces that employ L1 visa holders by US Department of Homeland Security officials.

It also seeks to reverse the Obama administration’s decision to allow spouses of H1B Visa holders to work in that country. 90% of Indian technology workers use H1B visas.

L1 visas are for shorter periods and are often used by top management. The order, if signed into law, will also reverse the Optional Practical Training (OPT) extension for STEM (science, technology, engineering and mathematics) students that the earlier administration had mooted in late 2015.

OPT extensions allowed graduates with STEM degrees to stay in the US for as much as three years after graduating from college. The new order will curtail that period, hurting the future plans of 165,918 Indian students in the US. Indians comprise the second largest ethnic group after the Chinese when it comes to international student enrolment in the US, according to the Institute of International Education.

If implemented, the executive order could seriously hit the movement of students and skilled employees from India to the US.

R Chandrashekhar, president of the National Association of Software and Services Companies, said the industry does not react to drafts. “We continue to hold that skilled immigration is what benefits the global economy, and diversity and inclusion have actually made Silicon Valley the magnet for global talent,” he told ET, adding that the industry is in a “wait-and-watch” mode with regard to the rising protectionist sentiment in its largest market— the United States.

“This president is proving to be very determined to close off the US from foreign labour. He means what he says and believes in what he is doing,” said Phil Fersht, CEO, HfS Research. “The days of free movement of talent and labour with the US are going to be very challenged while this man is in power,” added Fersht.

EYES ON VISA

The H-1B visa programme, which allows highly skilled workers to travel to the US, has been a cornerstone of Indian IT’s success for almost two decades now. As the future of the visa programme hangs in the balance, a person aware of the thinking of the Indian technology services companies said that they would want to get their hands on as many visas as possible before any long-term prohibitions set in.

“Assuming no executive orders are passed regarding the H-1B visas by April 1, when the visa lottery opens, everybody would latch on to what is currently available. Next year, you don’t know whether you will get a visa or not,” said this person.

On Friday, Trump issued an executive order barring the entry of refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries into the US, causing chaos at airports across the US. A New York federal judge issued an emergency stay on the order late Saturday US time.

Friday’s order applied to legal immigrants and visa holders from seven countries — Syria, Iraq, Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen and Libya. The heads of Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, Uber and several others condemned the order.

INDUSTRY STRATEGY

Indian IT companies say that they are tracking the events in the US carefully and will craft a response in the coming week.

“This was a nasty weekend surprise for all us... We will have to get used to this during Trump's term, I guess,” said a senior executive at one of India’s largest IT services firms, who did not wish to be identified. He added that over the next couple of days, senior executives of the firm in the US will figure out a future strategy. Another IT services major said it wasn't particularly worried about Friday's executive order, but would take “appropriate measures” if a decision impacting the Indian IT industry is taken.

Sudin Apte, CEO of Offshore Insights, said that even though Friday’s executive order may not have an immediate, direct impact on Indian IT industry, many Indian tech firms have sizeable numbers of employees on their rolls who are Muslims. Some of these employees may feel challenged going for onshore assignments to the US. Apte added that Indian IT companies should be prepared for a phase of uncertainty for the next 3-6 months.

Some experts believe that Friday’s order may not affect Indian IT companies, as they have “elaborate pre-hiring process to verify their employees.”

“The new policy to ban trouble makers, specifically from seven countries is because they have historically been a cause for turbulence in the Americas. India, on the contrary, has been resilient and has time and again proved to be America’s long standing friend,” said Rajiv Dabhadkar, founder of the National Organisation for Software and Technology Professionals, which works for Indian workers overseas.
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Apple hires a small fraction of foreign workers on its pay rolls but makes most of its money overseas. Many other US companies fall in that category. Who is benefiting from whom?

If skilled workers are not allowed into the US, a lot more jobs will shift overseas. It will develop technology ecosystems outside the US.
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the "muslim ban" must be seen as an act of political theatre - full of thunder and fury but signifying nothing (or whatever it is that the bearded guy once wrote). it gets headline attention, it gets everyone agitated (pro and con), but for the orange fans (who don't read msm or watch cnn and don't think there is life beyond the mid-west) it will be a great and stunning victory by their saviour upholding their freedoms, rights and ammo-clips goddamnit!

once the hurly burly is done, it will revert to business as normal and the orange one will tell all his overseas interlocuters that all iz vell and he will thump the podium and rail and rant at rallies to his fans saying he stuck it to dem goddamn terrorist rag-heads

straight out of the text book (the new one)
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I think the H1 visa thing will become a big issue very soon (they may have already given it a slot in the playbook - to be activated at the right time) - however I think it may be the spur indian firms need to break the low labour cost paradigm and move towards investment in R&D and innovation
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A_Gupta wrote:"A businessman, by virtue of being successful, understand economics (or understands economics better than most)" is a ridiculous claim.
Prove it. Dont run away. A businessman who understands how markets behave is successful. Those who do not understand this, fail. If it was not so, Yellen would be running a multi million $ company. Kahneman and Tversky have proven this too. So you will need to come up with a hypothesis and prove it, that would counter their hypothesis. The battle is uphill. I am sure you can do it though.
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Singha wrote:I find it incredible that germany and japan with per capita income and education level similar to usa are manufacturing powerhouse and huge exporter while usa let its sector wither away to china and everywhere but usa.
Exorbitant priviledge and all that. For a nation who wants to be a reserve currency, they have to run a trade deficit. Its not possible to run a trade deficit and run a manufacturing economy and still remain international reserve currency.
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Gus wrote:Rumors flying thick and fast about h1 holders asked about actual project work and denied entry if no link between payroll employee and place of work.
False...I came on 28th evening. Was appreciated for the color of shirt followed by a "Welcome back".
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csaurabh wrote:I just had an insight into Trump movement in the USA.

It is a revolt of the American 'shudras' against American 'vaishyas', 'kshatriyas' and 'brahmanas'.

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csaurabh ji,

https://www.amazon.com/Downfall-Capital ... 0333216458
This book was published by Prof Ravi Batra in 1978. Its quite a good book and you will find your thesis is not incorrect when you look at the world through his lens.
Batra suggested capitalism would collapse before communism.

That capitalism is eventually doomed to extinction, even its most ardent supporters would admit. Many would argue that by gradual evolution itself the facial features of capitalism will be altered, if not transformed. However, I believe the [social] revolution will occur in the next twenty-five to fifty years. (pg. 238)

In 1985, in The Great Depression of 1990, Batra predicted the collapse of capitalism would begin in 1990. In 2007, Batra made new predictions in his book The New Golden Age: The Coming Revolution against Political Corruption and Economic Chaos which he subsequently felt were being realised with the Occupy Wall Street movement
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naruto wrote:This from national review (don't know if its RW, but anyways for some facts)
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... t-hysteria
For all the Democrats’ wailing and gnashing of teeth, until 2016 the Obama administration had already largely slammed the door on Syrian-refugee admissions. The Syrian Civil War touched off in 2011. Here are the Syrian-refugee admissions to the U.S. until Obama decided to admit more than 13,000 in 2016:
Fiscal Year 2011: 29
Fiscal Year 2012: 31
Fiscal Year 2013: 36
Fiscal Year 2014: 105
Fiscal Year 2015: 1682
But the Arab Spring was in 2011, the Syrian civil war followed that, and the first few years of the war did not produce a flood of refugees.
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panduranghari wrote:
A_Gupta wrote:"A businessman, by virtue of being successful, understand economics (or understands economics better than most)" is a ridiculous claim.
Prove it. Dont run away. A businessman who understands how markets behave is successful. Those who do not understand this, fail. If it was not so, Yellen would be running a multi million $ company. Kahneman and Tversky have proven this too. So you will need to come up with a hypothesis and prove it, that would counter their hypothesis. The battle is uphill. I am sure you can do it though.
No, a businessman who understands how a specific market segment behaves is successful. E.g., Steve Jobs. And he doesn't understand the economy as a whole - what causes recessions, what causes bubbles, the effect of trade deficits on employment, fiscal deficits on interest rates, etc., etc.

A skillful driver gets through traffic better than others, but may know little about traffic engineering, or automobile engineering.

PS: and since you have brought Kahneman and Tversky, do give specific citations, not a wild general claim.
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A_Gupta wrote:
krisna wrote:ombaba banned 7 times muslim nations at different times in his presidency.
In somebody's fevered imagination only.
Thanks for your imagination.
The article on the above have been posted here only in this dhaga. :mrgreen:
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Here is a history of Syrian refugees:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee ... _Civil_War
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Wait...If the argument is that ombaba was also 'tough on muslim immigration' and 'deported more mexicans' etc but managed all that without making mess and fuss....What is the argument here again...
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Gus wrote:Wait...If the argument is that ombaba was also 'tough on muslim immigration' and 'deported more mexicans' etc but managed all that without making mess and fuss....What is the argument here again...
:rotfl:

Don't expect coherence from Trump or his supporters!

Great Bong has this:
https://greatbong.net/2017/01/29/trump-week-one/
For a lot of Indian NRI Hindus, I observe regrettably an emotion that ranges from “Won’t happen to me because Trump loves Hindus” to schadenfreude because those affected are Muslims. While I would not have the courage to stick my neck out and predict what Trump will do next week, let me posit a sobering hypothesis. Steve Bannon’s army, or one of Trump’s core constituents, may rail against the Muslims and the Mexicans, but they know that their odds of being killed in a road accident are higher than of being killed by Islamic terror, and that the Mexicans aren’t the ones who are taking the jobs they would care for. Their real enemies, they believe or are made to, are the Chinese who have taken their manufacturing jobs and, hold your breath for while, Indians who have taken their IT gigs. So the sabre rattling against China will go on, on trade, but then again Trump and his team knows, and remember Trump understands his own interests if not anything else, that an all-out trade-war with China will not end well.

Fighting with nations is hard. China, Mexico, Saudi Arabia.

Individuals, well that’s quite easy.

Which leaves the H1B program, the perfect low-hanging fruit for Trump to score some brownie points with his constituents, made even lower by the fact that Donald Trump’s businesses won’t be affected by its gutting. And trust me, if Indian Cobol developers are summarily sent back, there won’t even be the gentle consolation of crowds of ACLU lawyers with “Free legal help for those affected” at the airport, or impassioned articles in the Times.

So be careful in your neutrality or delight, dear desis. Be very careful.
To which I add, being at the top of the heap in the capitalist system, running successful companies, doesn't cut it for Trump's retinue.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ste ... 9c1fa71e48
“When someone is going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, all the greats” and then they graduate, “we throw them out of the country, and they can’t get back in,” Trump said.

“I think that’s terrible,” added Trump, who was a regular guest on the show. “We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country.”

Trump asked Bannon if he agreed with him, but the Breitbart executive chairman seemed to have trouble responding to this suggestion.

“When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think...” Bannon said. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.”
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"It’s not that Trump supporters are too stupid to see right from wrong, it’s that you’re more valuable to them as an enemy than as a compatriot. "
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