Terroristan - June 20, 2017

[anupmisra]

Wasn't Habib Bank once linked to BCCI (the bank, not the cricket organization) circa 1990's? It was known as the Bank for Crooks and Criminal, Inc.

[anupmisra]

Here's another instance where the pakis will stoop to nothing to get their baksheesh. Note how the baby's name in this case has been subtly altered from a malsic one to a Hindu-sounding name. Rouhaan to Roahaan to Rohaan! Good for the baby. Get better soon on Indian generosity, care, compassion and love. You are not going to get that in pakistan.

Pakistani baby suffering from cardiac ailment issued Indian medical visa

Hours after Indian Minister for External Affairs Sushma Swaraj said that India will grant a medical visa to a newborn Pakistani, the Indian High Commission in Islamabad issued the visa to Rouhaan who is suffering from a cardiac ailment.

"My son needs treatment. Why [does] he suffer. Request issuance of urgent medical visa," Mukhtar had written in a twitter post.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1354714/pakis ... dical-visa

[Atmavik]

/\ we need a wall

[Peregrine]

Wasn't Habib Bank once linked to BCCI (the bank, not the cricket organization) circa 1990's? It was known as the Bank for Crooks and Criminal, Inc.

anupmisra J :

Agha Hasan Abedi was initially with Habib Bank. Then he founded UBL.

In 1972 Bhutto Nationalized Banks and so Agha Hasan Abedi founded BCCI. It was a Joint Venture with Bank of America.

Cheers

[Peregrine]

/\ we need a wall

Atmavik Ji :
No wall can be effective against India's Bleeding Hearts!

Cheers

[pankajs]

Arsalan Altaf‏ @Arsalanet

Govt audit finds Pak Ranger (Punjab) running a general store, marriage hall, bakery, canteen, shops, schools & colleges to generate revenue

Arsalan Altaf‏ @Arsalanet 10h10 hours ago

While Pak Rangers (Sindh) run a petroleum service, a printing press, security services, a shooting club, and schools for revenue generation

[anupmisra]

Bharat is about to break up.

[saip]

'You have been the worst foreign secretary ever,' Basit wrote in scathing letter to Aizaz

Why is this Bashit going after another ai-Shit? Professional jealousy?

Dawn

[anupmisra]

'You have been the worst foreign secretary ever,' Basit wrote in scathing letter to Aizaz

Why is this Bashit going after another ai-Shit? Professional jealousy?

Dawn

No, more like abandoning ship. If it was jealousy, he should have spoken up much earlier.

[Atmavik]

/\ we need a wall

Atmavik Ji :
No wall can be effective against India's Bleeding Hearts!

Cheers

True. We need a catapult to send these bleeding heart types over the wall

[Atmavik]

US COMMANDER Gen. JOHN NICHOLSON, PAKISTAN WILL HAVE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbQc0bZ0O9E

[chetak]

'You have been the worst foreign secretary ever,' Basit wrote in scathing letter to Aizaz

Why is this Bashit going after another ai-Shit? Professional jealousy?

Dawn

No, more like abandoning ship. If it was jealousy, he should have spoken up much earlier.

he is preparing for his political career and hence laying the ground work.

he is already a known paki army pasand character because of this strident anti India stand as well as pro hurriyat support while in India.

His promotion as foreign secy was therefore blocked by the nawaz govt, due to his army ass kissing ways

He will benefit a great deal from the paki army as well as the ISI ( and therefore the jehadi vote bank ) support for his election.

[sum]

TSP COAS visited the hot springs area ( where strikes and pounding of TSPA took place last year and start of this yr).

Wonder whats cooking there

[SSridhar]

Wasn't Habib Bank once linked to BCCI (the bank, not the cricket organization) circa 1990's? It was known as the Bank for Crooks and Criminal, Inc.

anupmisra, besides BCCI, Habib Bank was a front for the ISI and was heavily involved in payment deals for clandestine (or open with US blessings as some would say) nuclear material/component/instrumentation related payments in the US & Europe. Habib Bank was also used by the ISI in secret funding to opposition in the 1990 elections to stop Benazir from coming to power. The then ISI Chief Lt. Gen Asad Durrani and the then Habib Bank chairman Habib Khan admitted in court that orders came directly from the President Ghulam Ishaq Khan.

[CRamS]

Guys, can anybody decode this verbose anal-ysis by MushRat Zaidi, one of India's Track-thoo favorites who is given a podium on DDM to convey ISI's message. In this he is confronting Trump's latest AfPak policy, but the quoted part caught my attention. What is he trying to say?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/226706 ... fghanistan

The Pakistan-US relationship is comatose. The only kiss of life possible is one that involves an American rejection of unchallenged Indian hegemony in South & Central Asia. Uncle Sam does not seem particularly likely to oblige. Pakistanis need not fear this – but we must understand the future we are signing up to.

[Chinmay]

Guys, can anybody decode this verbose anal-ysis by MushRat Zaidi, one of India's Track-thoo favorites who is given a podium on DDM to convey ISI's message. In this he is confronting Trump's latest AfPak policy, but the quoted part caught my attention. What is he trying to say?

The Pakistan-US relationship is comatose. The only kiss of life possible is one that involves an American rejection of unchallenged Indian hegemony in South & Central Asia. Uncle Sam does not seem particularly likely to oblige. Pakistanis need not fear this – but we must understand the future we are signing up to.

My translation: "We are f*cked. Only option is to go to our Chinese lords and sing, "O Paalanhare, nirgun o nyare..""

[deWalker]

X Posted on the PESW Thread

PSX plummets to fresh year’s low

What is especially gratifying about this, is that Puke-stan was recently added to the Emerging Markets index. Hopefully this performance will convince MSCI (or whoever creates and maintains the index) to withdraw before further signifcant losses. Any threat of US sanctions, and I'm sure the index will have to divest from the PSX, since US investors use these indices as investment vehicles.

Diwakar

[SSridhar]

Guys, can anybody decode this verbose anal-ysis by MushRat Zaidi, one of India's Track-thoo favorites who is given a podium on DDM to convey ISI's message. In this he is confronting Trump's latest AfPak policy, but the quoted part caught my attention. What is he trying to say?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/226706 ... fghanistan

The Pakistan-US relationship is comatose. The only kiss of life possible is one that involves an American rejection of unchallenged Indian hegemony in South & Central Asia. Uncle Sam does not seem particularly likely to oblige. Pakistanis need not fear this – but we must understand the future we are signing up to.

Most Pakistani media men & analysts are PA/ISI men & women and so is Mosharraf Zaidi.

CRS, I do not see much decodification needed here. It is straight. He is conveying the PA's demand to the US that the latest Pakistani demand has gone some notches higher if the US wants the Pakistani maiden's hand once again to consummate. Now they demand that the US should confine Indian influence to within its borders alone, not even South Asia, let alone Central Asia. This fits well with the Chinese approach of containing India as well.

[deWalker]

Pakistan Gets First Batch of Mi-35M Assault Helicopters

The irony is too rich - Russia selling the self-same helicopters to Pakistan, that the Pakistanis were instrumental in shooting down (via Stingers), when said helicopters belonged to RuAF in Afghanistan.

(Please don't go technical on me about the differences between Mi-17/25/35).

Diwakar

[JE Menon]

^^and even more the Paks are going to use them to kill its own people (nominally), the Baloch. The Russians have a sense of humor. It is entirely possible Russian anti-aircraft missiles will shoot them down too....

[SSridhar]

JEM, brilliant.

[Lisa]

Aga Khan led the first Mussalman Elite group to meet the Viceroy Minto in 1906 demanding special reservations for Muslims in any people's representation scheme that Britain was about to announce. This laid the foundation for separatism.

This is why I made my original post. Will be curious to see my ismaili friends response to this sound investment by AK.

[arun]

John Bolton, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a former US ambassador to the UN, says that in order for the US to win in Afghanistan it needs to hold the Peoples Republic of China to account in order to bring the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic to heel.

Almost certainly, the war in Afghanistan will be won or lost in Pakistan. ………….

That means dealing with Pakistan. Islamabad has provided financial and military aid, including privileged sanctuaries, to the Taliban, the Haqqani network, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Islamic State, al-Qa’ida and other malefactors, allowing them not just to survive but flourish. Trump rightly says this must stop .................

If US pressure were enough to compel Pakistan to act decisively against the terrorists within its borders, that would have happened long ago. What Trump needs is a China component to his nascent South Asia policy, holding Beijing accountable for the misdeeds that helped create the current strategic dangers.

Of all the external actors, China bears primary responsibility for Pakistan’s and North Korea’s possession of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. For its own strategic reasons, China gave both countries direct financial, scientific and technological assistance and then flew political cover at the UN and elsewhere. Empowering Islamabad was a hedge against India, China’s biggest threat in South Asia. Helping Pyongyang was a play against the US and its Asian allies. (And, increasingly, against the wider world, since North Korea appears to have sold its technology.) ………………….

It must, therefore, be core US policy to hold China to account, even belatedly ………………

Wall Street Journal (WSJ) via the Australian:

US must call China to account for the rising threat of Pakistan

[Peregrine]

X Posted on the PESW Thread

PSX plummets to fresh year’s low

What is especially gratifying about this, is that Puke-stan was recently added to the Emerging Markets index. Hopefully this performance will convince MSCI (or whoever creates and maintains the index) to withdraw before further signifcant losses. Any threat of US sanctions, and I'm sure the index will have to divest from the PSX, since US investors use these indices as investment vehicles.
Diwakar

deWalker Ji :
Aap Ki Sewa Mein :

WORLD FEDERATION OF EXCHANGES Annual Statistics Guide 2016

MUMBAI STOCK EXCHANGE

INR 106,233,470.5 Million= INR 106,233.4705 Billion = INR 106.2334705 TRILLION

US$ = INR 63.94 So INR 106.2334705 TRILLION = US$ 1.66 TRILLION

MSCI WORLD INDEX
MSCI is a market leader in global indexes and has approximately US$ 2.7 Trillion in assets benchmarked to the World Index suite

So deWalker Ji, the Total W S I suite is worth US$ 2.7 Trillion and India’s BSE is US$ 1.66 Billion then Clapistan’s PSX is not worth BSE’s Dental Floss!

Bi Bi Clapistani PSX!

Cheers

[Falijee]

F.O. "Dirty Linen" Being Openly Washed In Public Laundry

'Jealousy has no remedy,' says Aizaz Chaudhry in response to Abdul Basit's 'rude' letter

Pakistan's ambassador to the United States, Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry, on Wednesday issued a rebuttal to the letter written to him by Abdul Basit, the former ambassador to India, calling it "disgusting".Chaudhry told journalists that Basit's letter, which had been making rounds on social media since Monday night, was “too rude and uncalled for”.Basit in his letter addressed to Chaudhry, dated July 5, 2017, lambasted the latter's tenure as foreign secretary apparently over a number of foreign policy gaffes made during his time in the office. The suave Pakjabi (Basit ) seems to have forgotten diplomatic courtesy and language since his exit from the post in New Delhi !

“He [Basit] wrongly thinks that he could not reach the post of foreign secretary because of me — he has since retired,” Chaudhry said in his response which was emailed to journalists.

...that,” the envoy to US was quoted as saying. "Jealousy has no remedy."

The former envoy to India, who was replaced after opting for an early retirement earlier this month by Sohail Mahmood, had written the acerbic letter in response to Chaudhry's farewell letter which he wrote after being appointed the ambassador to United States.Basit had also expressed concern in his letter that Chaudhry would end up being "the worst Pakistan Ambassador in Washington D.C".

Basit's prediction is coming true !!!!


This Paki Journo Is Asking Basit To Tone Down His Rhetoric Following His Earlier UnDiplomatic Letter

Abdul Basit, former Pakistani High Commissioner to India is making headlines – mostly due to Indian media houses ... True to Paki form, India is being blamed - again

[abhijitm]

John Bolton, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a former US ambassador to the UN, says that in order for the US to win in Afghanistan it needs to hold the Peoples Republic of China to account in order to bring the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic to heel.

Wall Street Journal (WSJ) via the Australian:

US must call China to account for the rising threat of Pakistan

That exactly what china wants. Like good old cold war days. superpowers negotiate with each other over 3rd countries, bringing their vested interest on table.

We are screwed the day china starts representing pakistan with US. There must be direct transaction between US and pakistan.

[VishalJ]

Is this the right thread or would it be more suited for the humour thread?

[SSridhar]

'Peanuts, not billions of dollars': Ex-Pakistan interior minister on US aid - Shailaja Neelakantan, ToI

The US has given Pakistan "peanuts", "not billions of dollars" in aid, said influential ruling party politician Chaudhry Nisar today in Pakistan's national assembly, reported Pakistani media.

Nisar, who was until recently Pakistan's interior minister, also said the government must conduct an audit of US aid it has received in the last 10 years. {Then, we will know who took how much money. Too dangerous for all Generals & politicians alike}

"It's not billions of dollars, it is peanuts," said Nisar, according to Dawn.

He was essentially ridiculing US President Donald's Trump's statement last week+ that the US was "paying Pakistan billions and billions of dollars" while Pakistan is "housing the very terrorists we are fighting".

Nisar said the Coalition Support Fund paid by the US "is for the services rendered by Pakistan" in the fight against terrorism and even those funds the US "sits on...for months".

"If our bill (for military services) is $500 million, they [US] sit on it for months... and end up giving us $200 million, {yeah, because you inflated the bills ten fold and you were not even worth USD 50m} " said Nisar.

The former interior minister from Pakistan's ruling PML (N) party said there "should be no compromise" on Pakistan's integrity in the face of Trump's accusations.

"If you keep on scaring, the opponent will make the most out of it {So, the mard have decided not to be scared and display their martial race behaviour?}," said Nisar, reported Ary News.

The PML (N) leader also said there are no terror safe havens in Pakistan like Trump alleged, and added that the US must show proof of its allegations.

Trump said last week that Pakistan provides "safe havens to agents of chaos and terror". His comments sent Pakistan into a tailspin prompting Islamabad to suspend all bilateral talks and visits with the US+ .

[SBajwa]

*As an aside, the Victorian era officer who led the British storming of Delhi and the final overthrow of Mughals from India was also a John Nicholson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nich ... ny_officer)

This John Nicholson actually killed the Mughal prince right at Khooni Darwaza of the red fort. He had Hoodson Horse regiment which was newly raised with Maharaja Ranjit Singh's Sarkar Khalsa soldiers!

[Falijee]

"Carrot Analogy" Used Or Abused To Explain Pakistan's Whoring Status

A brief history of carrots in Pakistan

Long before 17th century farmers in the Netherlands bred orange carrots, Mohammed bin Qasim had brought green carrots to the Indian subcontinent. Just like most discoveries and inventions, carrots had already been harvested by the Muslims, before the West stole it a thousand years later. Like the myth that algebra was an Malsic creation ( when the knowledge was imported from India by Arab Traders !)

But ever since Bin Qasim brought the vegetable to our neck of the woods, the country now known as Pakistan – incidentally one that the Arab farmer/invader laid the foundation of in 713 AD ... history altered to suit Paki propaganda

Even so, what makes all these carrots unique is the fact that none of these is grown in Pakistan The Pakistani (Donkey) has been fed quite a variety of carrots throughout the years !

Arab carrot: this medium-sized green variety from the Arab world, was brought to the Indian subcontinent by bin Qasim, sports a green turban and has a divine core. Although the Arab carrot’s “spicy,” “overwhelmingly nutty” flavor and “juicy-crisp” texture make it suitable for eating raw, some tasters found it “noticeably more bitter” ( the Saudi variety- like their dates - is the most "famous" in Pakiland )

British carrot: this pale variety had an unusual, near-cylindrical stick shape – especially for this part of the world. Never eaten raw, the British carrot has a “light crunch” and “fruity foretaste” that seems “devoid of bitterness” unless properly cooked. Once cooked, this carrot turns “fluffy,” its color deepens, and it tastes as bitter as any vegetable. The uniqueness of the British carrot lies in how it overcame the popularity of the Arab carrot, coexisted with it, IMO, the British carrot is closely related to the Arab variety , also at one time consumed in Iraq, Jordon, Yemen and some other places where HM ruled !

UP carrot: Picked early in its growth cycle, this immature carrot was small and but had a firm skin that could not be peeled. The UP carrot would’ve been home grown, had the region still been a part of Pakistan. Its texture and taste bears an eerie resemblance to the Arab carrot. It has the same divine core, but without the green turban – the exterior has a likening to the British carrot. The UP carrot was developed with "help" from the British Carrot and it has historical ties with the Arab carrot as well. Pakis do not consume it anymore !

Turkish carrot: a sister variety of the Arab carrot, the Turkish carrot has changed its texture, and taste, like a chameleon over the past hundred or so years. It was its shortage in the then Ottoman Empire that increased the demand of both the Arab and UP carrots in the first half of the 20th century. The Orduvariety of the Turkish carrot was exported into the diet plan of East Pakistan till its independence The Pakistan(Donkey) has again developed a "taste" for the Turkee variety - related to the Arab vegetable as well !

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Saudi carrot: olericulturists have struggled to differentiate between the Saudi and Arab carrots, but those who know the common side-effects of both can tell the difference. Also sporting a green turban with a divine core, the Saudi carrot has maintained its devotees, while simultaneously increasing the demand of the Arab carrot. However, it’s spread has meant minimisation of the Persian carrot with relevant scientists yet to come up with a formula for the two breeds to coexist. The Sunni (Donkey ) prefers the Saudi variety while the Shia (Donkey) hate the Saudi variety with a passion !

American carrot: the dense flesh of this stubby variety is extraordinarily crunchy. With “intense, straightforward carrot flavor” and a “simultaneously bitter” aftertaste, it is the most vastly exported carrot. Interestingly, while the American carrot filled the void of the British carrot in Pakistan and is only one of the many varieties of the vegetable imported by Pakistan since its inception, it is the only variety that is acknowledged as such. All others are rarely ever addressed as carrots. Also coming in an unusual, near-cylindrical stick shape, the American carrot has been the most discussed carrot in the country. Ever since the 50's Pakistanis have developed a taste for the "American Carrot", which was initially "offered" at a very "attractive" price . The demand for the US variety has diminished over the years due to their high cost, but the Pakistani Donkey still prefers this variety the most. !

Chinese carrot: the most common supermarket variety these days, it has the prototypical carrot shape. Tasters described the flavor of this carrot as “bright,” “spicy-soapy,” “herbal,” and “unlike any other carrot in the market.” When cooked, it turns a deep coral color and develops “yeasty” and “earthy” flavors – but very few know how to cook it properly. Most of its exports have been sent to Balochistan, towards the Makran coastline. The general consensus these days in the country is that the Chinese carrots taste best.

Moral of the story " Grow your own carrots; do not depend on your "food supply" on outsiders. One day, you will find that you do not the money to import the carrots for your donkeys

[sudeepj]

John Bolton, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a former US ambassador to the UN, says that in order for the US to win in Afghanistan it needs to hold the Peoples Republic of China to account in order to bring the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic to heel.

Almost certainly, the war in Afghanistan will be won or lost in Pakistan. ………….

That means dealing with Pakistan. Islamabad has provided financial and military aid, including privileged sanctuaries, to the Taliban, the Haqqani network, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Islamic State, al-Qa’ida and other malefactors, allowing them not just to survive but flourish. Trump rightly says this must stop .................

If US pressure were enough to compel Pakistan to act decisively against the terrorists within its borders, that would have happened long ago. What Trump needs is a China component to his nascent South Asia policy, holding Beijing accountable for the misdeeds that helped create the current strategic dangers.

Of all the external actors, China bears primary responsibility for Pakistan’s and North Korea’s possession of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. For its own strategic reasons, China gave both countries direct financial, scientific and technological assistance and then flew political cover at the UN and elsewhere. Empowering Islamabad was a hedge against India, China’s biggest threat in South Asia. Helping Pyongyang was a play against the US and its Asian allies. (And, increasingly, against the wider world, since North Korea appears to have sold its technology.) ………………….

It must, therefore, be core US policy to hold China to account, even belatedly ………………

Wall Street Journal (WSJ) via the Australian:

US must call China to account for the rising threat of Pakistan

So Bolton claims that the US cant 'put pressure' on Pakistan to change its illegal behavior (I dont need to elaborate), but wants to 'put pressure' on China instead to make it change its legal behavior, such as discounted arms sales and developmental aid? China no longer needs to indulge in illegal behavior to prop up Pak.. The reactors, centrifuges and the missile plants are already there and working! Bolton must be going senile. This is a strategy born out of stupidity and will fructify in disaster. Just as the Pakistanis have so called 'legitimate interests' so do the Chinese and those interests do not include helping the US war effort succeed.

In my view, the best approach will be a drone strike campaign well into Pakistani heartland. The Pak army will be offered the option of shooting down the drones or losing political legitimacy. If they shoot down the drones, trade sanctions by the US and all NATO allies should be imposed. Other escalations include imposing a no fly zone over KPK and hitting the informal army controlled entities, such as the fertilizer factory that supplies ammonium nitrate to the taliban. While at it, destroy the land link between China and Pak by blowing up some bridges.

Pakistanis will start doing tael malish of their bums but their missiles cant reach the US, and US will not be deterred by their piddly patakhas. They will block the supply routes, but the US can easily sustain its small remaining force by air and can also impose a blockade of Pakistani ports in return. Pak army can be taken down completely by this approach of escalation dominance with the end goal of political delegitimization of Pakistan goals by USING the United States hard power instead of just SAYING we will use it.

[Falijee]

Terrorism Averted In Isloo

One citizen dead, one injured in result of Islamabad police firing

In result of firing by Islamabad police, one citizen died while one got injured in Rawal Town of the capital, reported Waqt News.
According to details, police opened fire on a car when it did not stop on check post resulted in death of one individual on spot. Police personnel took the injured with them while leaving dead body on the spot. Meanwhile, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal took the notice of incident and has ordered IG Islamabad to present report. ( the usual BS about taking note, ordering enquiry, summoning, blah, blah, blah )

PS: Note the identical Paki Ayeshas ( in the background ) in Arab garb, in the generic photu !

[sudeepj]

Guys, can anybody decode this verbose anal-ysis by MushRat Zaidi, one of India's Track-thoo favorites who is given a podium on DDM to convey ISI's message. In this he is confronting Trump's latest AfPak policy, but the quoted part caught my attention. What is he trying to say?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/226706 ... fghanistan

The Pakistan-US relationship is comatose. The only kiss of life possible is one that involves an American rejection of unchallenged Indian hegemony in South & Central Asia. Uncle Sam does not seem particularly likely to oblige. Pakistanis need not fear this – but we must understand the future we are signing up to.

Teasing out the arugment within:

1. Story we tell and should keep telling outsiders so we can guilt trip them into taking it easy on us:

Pakistan has legitimate concerns about Afghanistan, and its choices will always be informed by those concerns. Pakistan has paid the price for Afghanistan dearly

2. Internally, we need to figure out how to win our Jihad based domination of Afhganistan and free Kashmir and destroy India. We are not winning right now.

The question for us here at home should not be whether Pakistan should roll over and do whatever America, or India, or even Afghanistan wants. The question should be how Pakistan can come out of this with a win. As things stand, it is safe to say Pakistan is not winning.

3. Our response to Prez. Trump's statements makes us look bad

The Difa-e-Pakistan Council conducted a press briefing. That those men are allowed to operate as faux representative of the national security establishment is bad enough...

4. Our reaction is also panicky and desperate. Dont embrace China, Turkey and Russia so openly so early in the game and dont stop haggling with the Americans. There may still be some benefits we can extract from the Americans.

Khawaja Asif’s already scheduled trip to the US was postponed after the speech and a series of trips to Beijing and Moscow was hurriedly arranged .... Later, Islamabad requested that Alice Wells and Lisa Curtis postpone their Pakistan visit –

5. We stopped talking to Americans earlier but things did not improve between us and them. If they were able to sustain a much larger force for two years without our logistics, they can do so again.

The problem is that we have locked out the Americans before. After the Salala attack in November 2011, Pakistan shut off the ground lines of communication (GLOC) for US troops, shut down operations of US drone bases in Pakistan, ... In July 2013, the GLOCs were re-opened, following an apology for Salala by Hillary Clinton.

6. Dont mainstream the terrorists into political parties. It makes me look terrible and when I interact with the Americans. Cant we kill these guys and grow some new ones later? Or may be put these guys in a fake jail or something?

... why Pakistan is facing this kind of a situation with the Americans in the first place. The brazenness with which the LeT/JuD/FIF is being mainstreamed into politics through the NA-120 by-election is something out of the twilight zone... ... brazen signal to all that care to listen that Pakistan will not abandon the Haqqani Network.

7. Obligatory condemnation of civilian politicians. Dont get too angry ISI sir please. I dont want a bullet in my side like that Hamid Mir.. I think, you guys are the best, civilians are the worst.

When civilians are as incompetent, myopic and self-absorbed as they are (which is to say, a tad more than the khakis), how exactly do we expect the battle for civilian supremacy to go?

8. It doesnt appear that uncle Sam will give us arms or money to fight with India and become equal in stature to the dark, rice eating types regardless of what we do.

The only kiss of life possible is one that involves an American rejection of unchallenged Indian hegemony in South & Central Asia. Uncle Sam does not seem particularly likely to oblige.

9. But the Chinese and Russians also may not give us arms or money to make us equal to India. They also dont like our Jihad too much.

... there will be a version of the Haqqanis, or the LeT, or the JuM that will make China a target. The Chinese will never gesticulate as hyperactively as the Americans do: “do more, do more, do more!” But the Chinese (or the Russians) will also never have the same strategic calculus as Pakistan.

10. The current crop of Jehadis cant deliver us a win against the US and Afghanistan. In fact, the battleground is about to shift into Pakistan itself because of these idiots.

The Haqqani Network is a poor choice of instrument. It has cost Pakistan dearly, and it will cost Pakistan even more dearly.

11. Do something.. Anything!!

It is time to make better choices in Afghanistan. Winning choices.

[Falijee]

"Depressed" Nawaz Being Consoled By "Clever" Shahbaaz On His London Departure !

[sudeepj]

*As an aside, the Victorian era officer who led the British storming of Delhi and the final overthrow of Mughals from India was also a John Nicholson. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nich ... ny_officer)

This John Nicholson actually killed the Mughal prince right at Khooni Darwaza of the red fort. He had Hoodson Horse regiment which was newly raised with Maharaja Ranjit Singh's Sarkar Khalsa soldiers!

Here is to hoping the new John Nicholson makes a new Khooni Darwaza in the Red fort of Lahore.

[Bart S]

John Bolton, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a former US ambassador to the UN, says that in order for the US to win in Afghanistan it needs to hold the Peoples Republic of China to account in order to bring the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic to heel.

Almost certainly, the war in Afghanistan will be won or lost in Pakistan. ………….

That means dealing with Pakistan. Islamabad has provided financial and military aid, including privileged sanctuaries, to the Taliban, the Haqqani network, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Islamic State, al-Qa’ida and other malefactors, allowing them not just to survive but flourish. Trump rightly says this must stop .................

If US pressure were enough to compel Pakistan to act decisively against the terrorists within its borders, that would have happened long ago. What Trump needs is a China component to his nascent South Asia policy, holding Beijing accountable for the misdeeds that helped create the current strategic dangers.

Of all the external actors, China bears primary responsibility for Pakistan’s and North Korea’s possession of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. For its own strategic reasons, China gave both countries direct financial, scientific and technological assistance and then flew political cover at the UN and elsewhere. Empowering Islamabad was a hedge against India, China’s biggest threat in South Asia. Helping Pyongyang was a play against the US and its Asian allies. (And, increasingly, against the wider world, since North Korea appears to have sold its technology.) ………………….

It must, therefore, be core US policy to hold China to account, even belatedly ………………

Wall Street Journal (WSJ) via the Australian:

US must call China to account for the rising threat of Pakistan

Bolton is a pro-China/Pak and anti-India character from his past record. He sounds like he is bashing Pakistan and China but what he is actually lobbying for is a greater role and accommodation for them.

[sudeepj]

"Depressed" Nawaz Being Consoled By "Clever" Shahbaaz On His London Departure !

I dont think he is coming back.. He fears being made an 'Ahmad Shah Masood' of. One way to perpetuate yourself in power is to kill any remaining parties acceptable to all. AlQ/Tbn killed him on 9/10 because they knew what was coming and wanted to remove any possible successors. With Zardari in Dubai, this only leaves Im-the-dim and Shahbaz Shareef to take control of things if the army is de-legitimized. If the US shows any sign of escalation, both their lives are in grave danger.

[sudeepj]

Wall Street Journal (WSJ) via the Australian:

US must call China to account for the rising threat of Pakistan

Bolton is a pro-China/Pak and anti-India character from his past record. He sounds like he is bashing Pakistan and China but what he is actually lobbying for is a greater role and accommodation for them.

If only he had that much brains.. He is a has been loser whose mental picture of the world is stuck in the Reagan era. If he bargains with China, what can the US offer them for a victory in Afghanistan? Something in SCS, which is strategically a more important area? If he threatens China, what makes him think his threats will work there when even piddly Pakis are able to cock their snoot at him?

[Bart S]

Terrorism Averted In Isloo

One citizen dead, one injured in result of Islamabad police firing

In result of firing by Islamabad police, one citizen died while one got injured in Rawal Town of the capital, reported Waqt News.
According to details, police opened fire on a car when it did not stop on check post resulted in death of one individual on spot. Police personnel took the injured with them while leaving dead body on the spot. Meanwhile, Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal took the notice of incident and has ordered IG Islamabad to present report. ( the usual BS about taking note, ordering enquiry, summoning, blah, blah, blah )

PS: Note the identical Paki Ayeshas ( in the background ) in Arab garb, in the generic photu !

Unfortunately, that would a be a typical sight in most Indian cities too.

[Falijee]

Habib Bank Gives Up ! Gives Notice For Closure Of New York Branch .

Habib Bank to close New York operations as US department seeks $630 million penalty

LAHORE – Pakistan’s Habib Bank Limited has decided to close its operations in New York after US financial department, Department of Financial Services, served it a notice seeking to impose a penalty of millions of dollars.

According to filing of HBL to Pakistan Stock Exchange available with Daily Pakistan, “Despite HBL’s sincere and extensive remediation measures, DFS is still not appreciating or recognising the significant progress that HBL has made its branch in New York and HBL has received a notice from DFS in terms of which DFS seeks to impose an outrageous civil monetary penalty of up to US$629,625,000”.

“HBL shall vigorously contest this in the scheduled administrative hearing and the courts of law in the United States as being unjustified capricious, unreasonable not supported by facts or law and as being time barred.”The letter, written on August 28, was copied to the director of Surveillance, Supervision & Enforcement Department of Securities & Exchange Commission of Pakistan. It further states the penalty notice will not impose impact on bank’s business outsides of the US. But its so-called reputation has already gone to the dogs

Extending his hope that problem will be fixed as soon as possible Manochere Alamgir, who is currently functioning as General Manager in HBL New York Branch, said that they have hired a new compliance staff and a third-party consultant to resolve the matter as per asked by the Federal Reserve authorities.HBL takes any instructions from regulators very seriously and we intend that everything will be fixed according to rules, he added.The report also suggested that action was taken against HBL after it failed to fix the issues despite initial warning of the Federal Reserve and New York State Department officials.

Earlier in 2015, the only US branch of Pakistan’s largest bank Habib Bank