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Paki MNA Marvi Memon Suspected Of Corruption Feted By UK House Of Commons Speaker :roll:

John Bercow hosts dinner in Parliament to honour Pakistani MP who runs £420m aid scheme hit by fraud claims (and you pay for it!)
Commons Speaker John Bercow is throwing a taxpayer-funded dinner in Parliament to honour a Pakistani MP in charge of a £420million foreign aid scheme which in the past has been beset by allegations of fraud.The money, from the UK’s foreign aid budget, is being lavished on controversial cash handouts that have been compared to exporting the dole.
The Mail revealed earlier this year how the costly project has been dogged by accusations of fraud, and a report from Britain’s aid spending watchdog warned that a quarter of recipients are not the country’s poorest. Unless Bartania Reps themselves hand over the cheques, this kind of thing is inevitable in a corrupt nation like Pakistan !
But now Marvi Memon, the Pakistani politician in charge of the scheme, is to be given an award by Mr Bercow – even though it is British taxpayers’ money footing part of the bill for the giveaways.A dinner will be held in the State Rooms of Speaker’s House on September 5 where she will be guest of honour. It is highly unlikely that her rumoured new spouse - Ishaq Dar, FM of Pakistan - will be there to "witness" the honour :twisted:
She will be the inaugural recipient of the Speaker’s Democracy Award ‘to recognise and celebrate individuals who have championed democracy, or brought about social change in an emerging democracy’. :((
Miss Memon is a member of the country’s ruling party, the Pakistan Muslim League. When the party was in opposition it claimed the cash handouts scheme – the Pakistani government’s Benazir Income Support Programme – was riddled with ‘rampant corruption, nepotism and embezzlement’.Now, however, she is the chairman of the programme, which is supposed to give families payments to boost their incomes. IMO, this kind of a handout is more like an extortion payout to ensure that "British Interests" are not targeted by Pro Govt Islamists !
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The chini ass-kissing continues even if it means pi$$ing of the rest of the world.

Pakistan supports China's stance on Tibet: President Mamnoon
President Mamnoon Hussain Monday expressed concern over the reported Indian incursions into the Chinese territory and said that Pakistan fully supports the stance of China on the issue.
The president, while talking to Chinese Vice President Wang Yang at the President House, appreciated China for its adept handling of the issue and reiterated that Pakistan stands by China on the issues of Tibet, Sinkiang and South China Sea, a statement from the President House reads.
So, in one bold move, pakistan has insulted the UN, chinis, turkis and amrikis.

1. Wang Yang is not a VP. He is executive assistant #3.
2. Tibet's illegal occupation is a sore issue at the UN
3. Sinkiang seeks freedom and has support from their turki birathers
4. South China Sea... you know what the rest of the world thinks about this. The US is about to call china on it.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1351540/pakis ... nt-mamnoon
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Time to recall Yousaf Raza Gilani for expert services.
Also, what is a Fire Bridge hainji? Is that Agni Pariksha for the Boob disposal squad? :)
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[quote="Falijee"]Paki MNA Marvi Memon Suspected Of Corruption Feted By UK House Of Commons Speaker :roll:

John Bercow hosts dinner in Parliament to honour Pakistani MP who runs £420m aid scheme hit by fraud claims (and you pay for it!)
That has FRAUD written all over it, right in the headline! Holy cow, a 420 aid scheme!
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Peregrine wrote:Mods : Cannot locate a Rohingya Thread. Please move this post to a Relative Thread - if any.

Detect and deport illegal immigrants, states told

NEW DELHI: Asserting that illegal immigrants like Rohingyas pose grave security concerns and infringe on the rights of Indian citizens, the Centre has written to states, asking them to detect and deport them.

In a communication to states on August 8, the home ministry said, "These illegal immigrants not only infringe on the rights of Indian citizens but also pose grave security challenges." It says the rise of terrorism in last few decades has become a serious concern for most nations as illegal migrants are more vulnerable to getting recruited by terrorist organisations.

Infiltration of (the Rohingyas) from Rakhine state of Myanmar into Indian Territory, especially in recent years, besides being burden on the limited resources of the country also aggravates security challenges posed to India, it said.

The MHA said: "Due to a variety of reasons, including political and economic turmoil in neighbouring countries, people from such countries often enter India. There are cultural and ethnic similarities, on many occasions such migration goes unnoticed and they settle in Indian territory."

The ministry has asked the state governments to set up a task force at the district level to identify and deport illegal immigrants.

The intelligence agencies have often expressed concern over a large number of Rohingyas crossing over to India as they feel that terror organisations in J&K and other parts may use them against India.

Terror outfits like Indian Mujahideen and Lashkar-e-Toiba have in the past expressed solidarity with Rohingyas. In fact, IM had carried out the July 7, 2013 blasts at Mahabodhi temple in Bodh Gaya to avenge the killing of Rohingyas in Myanmar. Similarly, LeT bomb-maker Abdul Karim Tunda had disclosed after his arrest in 2013 that he was trying to recruit Rohingya Muslims. Pakistan-based LeT chief Hafiz Saeed has often spoken in support of Rohingyas.

Union minister of state for home Kiren Rijiju said in Parliament last week that, according to available data, more than 14,000 Rohingyas, registered with the UNHCR, are presently staying in India.

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Deputy Spokesman for the UN Secretary-General, Farhan Haq, who is from the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, opines on the issue of India very rightly planning to deport Bangladeshi Mohammadden Rohingya’s who had first illegally migrated to Myanmar and thereafter illegally migrated to India, on the very valid national security grounds of safeguarding India from the threat of Mohammadden Terrorism.

Farhan Haq shows the usual “Pakiness” by making no mention that India is not bound by the principle of “non‑refoulement”, which he bandies about, as India is not a signatory of the 1951 UN Refugee Convention nor for that matter is it a signatory of the 1967 Protocol. Neither for that matter are the other parties who may have a direct interest in the matter namely Bangladesh and Myanmar.

Our Government should ignore the UN and UNHCR and promptly move to rounding up and deporting these Bangaldeshi origin Rohingya people who had illegally migrated to Myanmar and thereafter illegally migrated to India so as to nip in the bud the security threat of Mohammadden Terrorism this group represents.

14 AUGUST 2017

Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General

The following is a near-verbatim transcript of today’s noon briefing by Farhan Haq, Deputy Spokesman for the Secretary-General. ………………….

Question: Can I ask about India?

Deputy Spokesman: Sure.

Question: I want to ask… India had announced that it intends to… to deport Rohingyas from Myanmar regardless of whether they're registered as UN refugees or not. It's a pretty high‑profile announcement, and I'm wondering, given António Guterres's interest in this issue, what's his statement on it?

Deputy Spokesman: Obviously, we have our concerns about the treatment of refugees. Once refugees are registered, they are not to be returned back to countries where they fear persecution. You're aware of our principles of non‑refoulement, and that's what applies in this case.

Question: And who will convey that to India given that they've said at the level of a minister that this is exactly what they intend to do?

Deputy Spokesman: Well, I believe the first point of contact will be through UNHCR [United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees]. Have a good afternoon, everyone.
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Daily Press Briefing by the Office of the Spokesperson for the Secretary-General
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This Article warms the Cockles of my Heart - Can't believe it is from a Clapistani Opinion Maker. May be have a Long life and may his Wish be fulfilled!

Let them come home

Every Independence Day, we are told stories of horror and terror, of how friend turned on friend and how neighbour slaughtered neighbour. We hear stories of loss, of how people fled just steps ahead of slavering mobs, sometimes with a suitcase, sometimes with nothing. And every year we hear the odd story of redemption and rediscovery, of how someone old and frail has retraced the steps back to their old house and been welcomed with open arms.

Everybody who was alive at the time of Partition is at least seventy years today. Seventy years is a long time to live. It is long enough to forgive and forget. But for those who miss their homes, it is seventy years of pain.

And so I say, let them come home. Let them all come home. Let us throw our borders open to every person who left a home behind on Partition. Let us tell them that even if they have migrated, that even if they have moved and put down new roots in strange places, that they will always have a home here.  Let us tell them that we know the pain of losing a home and that while we cannot make the past whole, we can try to heal the wounds which remain.


Perhaps you find the above to be idealistic nonsense of the kind that gets people slammed as RAW agents by the usual assortment of slavering anchors, just another utopian scheme destined to fail. If so, let me ask why? Why the scepticism? What do we have to lose?

People who are seventy plus now enjoy much healthier lives than they did in the past. More of them are now more active than they have ever been before in human history.  But even with all that modern science has to offer, there are precious few seventy year olds who are capable of posing a physical threat to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

But what about retired military officers, you might say? Well, what about them? Retired military officers are no less immune to the pain of a lost home than others. And those who are won’t be lining up at Wagah anyway.

What’s in it for us, you might ask? Ah, now that is a better question.

In 1994, the small nation of Rwanda went literally insane. That country is divided between two different ethnic groups, Hutus and Tutsis. And for some strange reason, the majority Hutus decided that they simply could not live with Tutsis any more. Between April and July of 1994, Hutu militias killed around a million people, including almost three-quarters of the Tutsi population.

Six years later, the civil war wracking the country came to an end with the victory of Paul Kagame and his Rwandan Patriotic Front. As noted by Jonathan Tepperman in his recent book, ‘The Fix’, Kagame faced an impossible task. The country had no running water and almost no electricity. The destruction of civil society was so complete that out of the 800 judges who had been in office before the war, only 50 survived.

But beyond the physical destruction, there was a larger problem. Rwanda was still divided between Hutus and and Tutsis. And memories were both sharp and extremely bitter. How was a country to be united when so many of them had been involved in murdering each other?

Kagame’s attempt to put the past behind relied in large part on an indigenous Rwandan mechanism for dispute resolution called ‘gacaca’. From what I can figure out, these are the rough equivalent of our panchayats and jirgas. In any event, more than 12,000 village level tribunals were set up with limited powers of punishment. The tribunals were staffed not by lawyers and judges but by respected locals given a few days of training.

Since 2002, the ‘gacaca’ courts have heard more than two million cases. And while there have been numerous criticisms of them, the fact remains that the conversations they initiated and formalised between victims and victimisers have been incredibly beneficial in making Rwanda the success story that it is today.

I’m not suggesting that Pakistan should set up village level panchayats to deal with Partition. But the fact remains that trying to brush our traumas under the rug of history hasn’t worked that well either. There doesn’t need to be a reckoning: it is too late for that now. But the ghosts of Partition still need to be exorcised. There needs to be a catharsis of some sort, some national conversation with the past and with the others who either fled or were driven away.

I cannot forgive the past. Because while I have inherited it, it is not mine to forgive. I am also lucky to be the son of a father who worked out his demons many years ago.

When I was a child, the stories my father told me were the usual ones, of loved ones killed, of treasures lost, of homes abandoned. But later my father worked as an expatriate in Singapore. Over there, he started playing bridge with an Indian diplomat. That diplomat later became one of my father’s closest friends. And somewhere in between the golf and the bridge, the anger melted. My father still told me stories about Partition. But they were no longer angry stories.

A decade further and my father managed to get a visa to visit Patiala. Our haveli was still there, if considerably battered. But what touched him the most was that the graves of our ancestors had been turned into a shrine with regular Thursday night qawwalis.

Obviously, not every visitor from across the border will be as lucky. But let them at least come. People in India still talk about the reception they got when they visited Lahore in 2004 to watch India and Pakistan play cricket. Lahoris are still the same as they were back then and neither is the rest of the country.

And so I repeat, let them all come home. Let us open our borders to every person who was resident in Pakistan 70 years ago. Let us welcome them back. Let us show them their old homes. Let us help them find what peace they can.

There is another aspect as well worth considering. We have spent much of the last 70 years in a defensive crouch. Yes, that posture was justified. Pakistan was given very little chance of survival at birth and that fact that we are now still together 70 years later is a hell of a thing. But that time has passed. We need not be afraid. Certainly not of 70 year old Indians.

Opening our borders to all people born here before Partition sends a message to the world that we have moved on as a country. It tells them that we are confident enough to deal with our past, that we are open enough to talk about. Above all, it tells them that we are ready to welcome everybody who has ever called this place home.Of course this is meant for Muslims only. NON-MUSLIMS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED INTO CLAPISTAN

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In the heart of Rawalpindi, Indians and Pakistanis remember their pre-Partition homes :roll:

Every August 14 or August 15, the Ghost Of The Memories Of Partition is evoked by Paki newspapers and nostalgic farticles are commissioned by them like the above "gem". Forgotten is the brutal and efficient ethnic cleansing that preceded this date and forced almost all Hindus and Sikhs to leave their ancient land, specially in Pakjab ! As one world -famous author is his best selling book ( Among The Believers ) observed - that this was a God sent opportunity for the "Faithfool" and it was seen as a reward from Allah ! Many momeens became rich overnight by grabbing Hindu and Sikh properties and assets . And this "rich" tradition of corruption, frontier justice, outright lying, etc etc continues to this day after 70 years ! ( Ganja Sharif is the latest example !)
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Balochistan liberation movement is moving full steam ahead to the next phase. August 14 (Good Riddance Day) seems to be the trigger date.

Seven FC men martyred halalled in two Balochistan attacks
Seven personnel of the Frontier Corps were martyred and three others injured in a bomb blast in the Khost area, about 150km northeast of Quetta, in Harnai district, and in firing in Panjgur district on Monday evening.
On Saturday night, a powerful explosion near Quetta’s Pishin Stop left least 15 people, including eight security personnel, dead and over 30 injured.
https://www.dawn.com/news/1351626/seven ... an-attacks
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Twitter was also reporting casualities( from independent reporters) of TSP forces when they were doing some fencing with Afghan border. Most probably even the Afghans are hammering them in that sector
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PSX bears full brunt of uncertainty as benchmark index slides 1,389 points

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The Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) saw a bloodbath on Tuesday, with the benchmark KSE-100 Index losing 1,389 points.

The benchmark index plunged 3.07 per cent, falling through the 44,000 level to close at 43,899 points. The market touched the day's high at 45,419 as the benchmark showed some positive movement in the first few minutes, but failed to sustain the momentum.

The benchmark recorded a day's low of 43,822 points near the close of the trading session.

The banking sector led activity at the bourse, with 31.3 million shares traded, followed by the chemical and the engineering sectors with 19 and 15.5 million shares, respectively.

A JS Global report attributed the sharp decline in the KSE-100 index level to the political uncertainty and selling pressure from foreign investors.

"OGDC (-3.95pc), ENGRO (-4.28pc), HBL (-1.76pc), MCB (-3.54pc) and HUBC (-3.35pc) were among major laggards that dragged the index down," said the report.

"SSGC (-5pc) hit its lower lock on the back of news regarding OGRA cutting rate for Sui Southern gas by Rs10 per unit. ISL (-4.24pc) closed near its lower circuit. The company announced its year-end results posting an EPS of Rs7 and a final cash dividend of Rs3.50," it said, adding that the oil and gas exploration and production (E&P) sector closed in the negative zone as oil prices slid for a second session, plumbing fresh three-week lows on a stronger dollar and concerns over a global supply glut.

According to the report, PPL (-2.93pc), POL (-2.04pc) and OGDC (-3.95pc) were among the losers from the aforementioned sector. PSO (-2.23pc), SSGC (-5pc) and SNGP (-5pc) from the oil marketing companies sector also witnessed selling pressure in the sinking market despite positive news for the sector where the Economic Coordination Committee is expected to consider increasing profit margins of oil marketing companies and dealers through prices of petroleum products.

MLCF (-4.14pc) from the cement sector released material information which stated an announcement of 12.50pc rights share issue at a price of Rs65/share for its grey clinker production, it added.

Ahsan Mehanti of Arif Habib Corporation said that the stocks closed bearish after reports emerged that the former premier would file an appeal, pleading the Supreme Court to dismiss the Panama Papers verdict.

"Foreign outflows, falling global crude prices, concerns for $3.2bn dismal trade deficit data for Jul'17 and pending circular debt in energy sector played a catalyst role in bearish close at the PSX," he said.

A total of 85.4m shares of KSE-100 companies changed hands during the session, with a total worth of nearly Rs6.9 billion.

Stocks of 379 companies in all were traded on the exchange, of which only 39 gained in value, whereas 326 declined and 14 remained unchanged.

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https://twitter.com/SushmaSwaraj/status ... 0023002112
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On the auspicious occasion of India's Independence day, we will grant medical visa in all bonafide cases pending with us. @IndiainPakistan
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Vishal Jolapara wrote:https://twitter.com/SushmaSwaraj/status ... 0023002112
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On the auspicious occasion of India's Independence day, we will grant medical visa in all bonafide cases pending with us. @IndiainPakistan
sure, why not.

we have insisted on buggering ourselves for centuries, dhimmi is in our genes.

this is exactly why every country bordering us including the british who raped us are asking for a piece of India, because it is their birthright.

india is the only civilization in the whole wide world that has, for centuries now, provided a free lunch for all others and willfully neglected her own citizens.

just look at the sheer scale of neglect and callousness in ghorakpur, filthy surroundings of hospitals and primary health care centers and is it because of Modi's message not reaching them or YA who "represented" them for decades is unable to see what is happening in his very own backyard??
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Gorakhpur kids need to take the Samjhauta express, come back with a Paki visa to get first rate care. Shows why we have a festering Paki problem for last 70 years.
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Utterly shameful, when dozens of our own infants have just died in a single hospital for shortage of medical supplies!
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Guys, Pakistanis get treated by private hospitals that are for-profit. As long as they go back after treatment, this is a economic net win for India, besides rubbing it into them.

Medical tourism is a budding field with lots of potential in India. Let Pakis subsidise it. If needed, increase cost of Visa to Pakistanis several good to compensate for increased security vetting. No need to let Turkey emerge as a competitor.

Jinnah should be turning in his grave to see his countrymen lining up to get treated in India and hoping that on the auspicious occasion of Indian Independence day, they may get their visa!
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schinnas wrote:Guys, Pakistanis get treated by private hospitals that are for-profit. As long as they go back after treatment, this is a economic net win for India, besides rubbing it into them.

Medical tourism is a budding field with lots of potential in India. Let Pakis subsidise it. If needed, increase cost of Visa to Pakistanis several good to compensate for increased security vetting. No need to let Turkey emerge as a competitor.

Jinnah should be turning in his grave to see his countrymen lining up to get treated in India and hoping that on the auspicious occasion of Indian Independence day, they may get their visa!
That is true, but not all of them are. Some of them certainly enjoy subsidies. In any case even those private doctors and facilities (generally some of the best names in the business) have a long waiting list of Indian patients, so why should Pakis get to jump the queue. Also, the Pakis who come here in large numbers for liver transplants, where are the donors from? I sure hope that they aren't exploiting Indian donors for it.
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High value pakis willing to defect and spill the beans or act as RAA agents maybe. There is nothing to gain giving aid and comfort to an ordinary paki- putting money before self-preservation or plain spite is an old Indian trait.
Keep accumulating till the next Ghaznavi shows up.
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Kh Asif invited summoned by Trump’s aide to visit Washington
A foreign policy aide of US President Donald Trump has extended invitation to Pakistan’s newly-appointed Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif to visit Washington.According to Foreign Office, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke to Asif during a telephonic conversation and invited him to the US capital in first such high level contact.In response, Asif also extended an invitation to Secretary Tillerson to visit Pakistan. According to the Foreign Office statement, Secretary Tillerson accepted the invitation. :roll:
He said the US had been a partner in Pakistan’s journey of development, both in the socio-economic and defence sector. He said he would strive in his new capacity to strengthen partnership with the US.
Asif said Pakistan would benefit the most if peace and stability was achieved in Afghanistan as success and sustainability of Pakistan’s economic reforms depended upon a peaceful and stable Afghanistan. He expressed Pakistan’s willingness to work with the US once the policy review on Afghanistan is unveiled. He emphasised a political settlement of the conflict in the Afghanistan as the common objective of Pakistan and the US.
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Jemima's Love - Hate Relationship With Pakiland In The News Again :mrgreen:

Jemima wishes 70th birthday to 'crazy, old friend' Pakistan
Jemima Goldsmith, ex-wife of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman, Imran Khan, took to Twitter today to wish Pakistan its 70th birthday.
Jemima called Pakistan ‘beautiful’ and a ‘crazy old friend’ which is an accurate representation of the unpredictable relationship she has had with the country. Jemima spent nine years in Pakistan when she was married to Imran Khan. The oft-photographed couple faced controversial press coverage, and was involved in many public controversies. The Mullah Brigade was "baying" for her head due to her Jewish origins. ! Jemima was charged with smuggling antique tiles when the Nawaz government was in power in 1999. Pregnant, she left the country for a year to live in Britain with her mother and returned when the charges were proven false. The couple divorced in 2004. Last month, upon Nawaz Sharif’s disqualification from the post of Prime Minister, Jemima appeared to be pleased. She tweeted that this action taken by the Supreme Court was ‘good riddance.’
Last month, upon Nawaz Sharif’s disqualification from the post of Prime Minister, Jemima appeared to be pleased. She tweeted that this action taken by the Supreme Court was ‘good riddance.’
Post-divorce, Jemima shares a cordial relationship with her former husband as they raise their children together, and lends him support in his political endeavors. There were unconfirmed rumour in the Paki press that Immy and Jemima want to re-tie the knot but IMO, it will be political suicide for the Kaaptan !
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ManishC wrote:Gorakhpur kids need to take the Samjhauta express, come back with a Paki visa to get first rate care. Shows why we have a festering Paki problem for last 70 years.
That's ok for the time being. Once seePak super highway is complete, pakis will travel to sinkiang for subsidized medical care.
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Bart S wrote:
schinnas wrote:Guys, Pakistanis get treated by private hospitals that are for-profit. As long as they go back after treatment, this is a economic net win for India, besides rubbing it into them.

Medical tourism is a budding field with lots of potential in India. Let Pakis subsidise it. If needed, increase cost of Visa to Pakistanis several good to compensate for increased security vetting. No need to let Turkey emerge as a competitor.

Jinnah should be turning in his grave to see his countrymen lining up to get treated in India and hoping that on the auspicious occasion of Indian Independence day, they may get their visa!
That is true, but not all of them are. Some of them certainly enjoy subsidies. In any case even those private doctors and facilities (generally some of the best names in the business) have a long waiting list of Indian patients, so why should Pakis get to jump the queue. Also, the Pakis who come here in large numbers for liver transplants, where are the donors from? I sure hope that they aren't exploiting Indian donors for it.
jinnah wanted to be able to also live in Bombay after partition he woud have been thrilled with dhimmi Indians

for Indian doctors, this treating paki business is the fastest way to a padma bushan
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Sindh’s lower-income Hindus suffer, rich face no problems
“My 14-year-old daughter Sabna was kidnapped on her way to work,” said a Hindu Karachi-based day labourer who calls himself Aziz so as to avoid being identified as a non-Muslim. “She was forcibly picked up and taken away on a motorbike,” he said. “Two days later we discovered she had converted to Islam and married a boy.”
Other people say their daughters were lured away by people trying to manipulate them.
Hindu leaders reject that suggestion out of hand arguing that girls cannot be expected to make a decision about marriage and conversion when they are so immature. “Some girls who have been converted are as young as 13,” said Member of the National Assembly Ramesh Kumar Vankwani, who runs the Pakistan Hindu Council. He says the forced marriage issue, as well as other types of discrimination, mean that thousands of Hindus leave Pakistan each year.
Islamists reject the whole issue of forced marriages out of hand. “This is, I think, a propaganda. It is nothing. It doesn’t happen,” said Muslim Pervez, Jamaat-i-Islami’s minority wing leader in Karachi, a position he has held for 14 years.
“The maid said: ‘I have seven girls and I have had to stop sending them to school because they have been getting threats that they might be picked up.’”
https://www.dawn.com/news/1351554/sindh ... o-problems
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What the hell is the matter with the Sikhs in pakistan? Stockholm syndrome or fear of reprisals?

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anupmisra wrote:What the hell is the matter with the Sikhs in pakistan? Stockholm syndrome or fear of reprisals?

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Both!

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Sikhs Of Pakistan : Neither here ( Pakistan) Or There ( India )

70 years after Pakistan-India split, Sikhs search for home
PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Radesh Singh’s grandfather was just 11 years old when he left his village in India’s Punjab province to move to Peshawar, in the far northwest of the country on the border with Afghanistan. The year was 1901: The British ruled the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan wasn’t even a glimmer in the eye of its founder, Mohammad Ali Jinnah, and Peshawar held the promise of work and adventure.Singh’s grandfather would never return to his village, not even in 1947, when the Indian subcontinent was divided into majority Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan, generating one of the largest migrations in modern history and unleashing a brutality that left few untouched as mobs of Hindus and Muslims turned on each other.
Singh’s family is neither Hindu nor Muslim but Sikh, a religious minority in both countries. In the 70 years since Partition they have waged a secessionist uprising in India demanding outright independence for India’s Punjab state where they dominate. They have felt increasingly less at home on either side of the border, but particularly so in recent years in overwhelmingly Muslim Pakistan as they too have become victims of local Taliban violence.
Singh said poverty kept his grandfather in Peshawar, located at the foot of the famed Khyber Pass and dominated by fiercely independent ethnic Pashtun tribesmen.
The hostility in the immediate aftermath of 1947 was brief in the northwest, said Singh. It was followed by decades of peace. The decision to stay in the new country now called Pakistan seemed like a good choice at the time. The Sikhs had lived peacefully for centuries alongside their Pashtun Muslim countrymen.
Today Sikhs are among Pakistan’s smallest minorities. They are easily identifiable because of their tightly wound and often colorful turbans, and because they share the surname Singh. The CIA Factbook estimates that 3.6 per cent of Pakistan’s 180 million people are non-Muslims, including Sikhs, Christians and Hindus. Until 1984, Singh said, Pakistan’s Hindus and Sikhs lived as one in northwest Pakistan. Their children married, they even worshipped together. But then India’s Prime Minister Indira Gandhi was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards.
“They (Hindus) cut all relations with us. They said Pakistani Sikhs are like all Sikhs everywhere. No difference. They said, ‘From now on, we will be separate from you,”‘ Singh recalled. :roll:
Today Sikhs are battling with the Pakistan government for ownership of dozens of Sikh temples that they call gurdwaras; while it is slow going they have managed to reclaim some of the buildings. Many were abandoned in 1947 and taken over by Muslims who arrived from India. The Pakistan government, which took over the buildings after 1947, allowed the squatters to remain. In a congested neighbourhood in Peshawar’s old city, Singh stepped through large steel gates that opened on to a sweeping courtyard. It no longer resembled a house of worship, but Singh said it was once a vibrant gurdwara attended by hundreds of Sikhs. Now two families call it home.
Two clotheslines crowded with clothes drying in the blistering midday sun stretched from one end of the courtyard to the other. A child’s plastic toy sat idle nearby.Elsewhere in Peshawar, an armed guard, his rifle slung loosely by his side, stood guard at the city’s largest Sikh temple, an ornate marble building that dates back 250 years. Inside a half dozen Sikh men sat on plastic chairs. It is a short, bureaucratic-looking man, a Muslim, who has the final say about who enters the gurdwara. He works for the government body that oversees properties vacated by people who fled to India in 1947.
After phone calls made, names recorded, passports handed over and more phone calls made, the doors to the gurdwara were opened. revealing a cavernous carpeted room and ornate pillars decorated with hundreds of tiny mirrors. In a small room at the far end of the upper story, two students read the Guru Granth Sahib, Sikhism’s holy book.Singh, who heads a council representing the Sikhs in Pakistan, said that since his homeland began to turn toward radical Islam, particularly in the Pashtun heartland, young Sikhs have been looking to leave.
“They want to go to another country, not to India or Pakistan,” he said, but every country eyes them with suspicion. Even Indians, he said, see his Pakistani passport and question his intentions, suggesting he wants to agitate for Sikh secessionism, the battle that resulted in Indira Gandhi’s death and a dream still held by many Sikhs on both sides of the border.
For Singh, Pakistan’s slide into intolerance began in the late 1970s with the former Soviet Union’s invasion of neighbouring Afghanistan. Pakistan’s military dictator Zia-ul Haq set the country on the course of Islamic radicalization as jihad became a rallying cry to defeat the communists in Afghanistan, he said.
“In the last nearly 40 years we have been facing the boom, boom (mimicking the sound of explosions) in every city of Pakistan,” said Singh. “In a long time we have not heard any sweet sounds in our Peshawar, but still we love our city.” Pakistan, of course has instigated the Sikhs and is financing and supporting the "demand for Khalistan" !
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Child Mistakes Bomb For Toy !

Chaman toy bomb blast injures child
CHAMAN: A toy bomb exploded today, critically injuring a child who was playing outside his house situated at Rehman Kahol Road in Chamman.
The child was seriously injured and rushed to the hospital. According to reports he is in critically injured.
Could be Taliban IED !
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"Firing Of Ganja Sharif" Govt Leaves Pakistani Bureaucracy Rudderless And Without Direction :D

Names of civil award recipients not announced
ISLAMABAD: Breaking with tradition, the federal government this year surprisingly has not announced the names of the civil award recipients in recognition of gallantry and for outstanding achievements in the fields of arts, literature, science, sports and nursing. The announcement is generally made on the eve of Independence Day and the awards are conferred by the president on March 23. So, the JIT verdict "punishing" Ganja has taken its toll in other ways as well . Either Ganja did not have the time to stamp his approval of the nominees or the "powers to be" have decided to reject his nominees. Or no one has bothered to prepare such a list !
When contacted, a member of the official committee responsible for approving the list of nominees said that they had completed their job and the list had been forwarded to the ministry concerned. He expressed surprise over non-issuance of the list.
Similarly, an official of the Press Information Department which provides the list of the nominees for the civil awards to the media told Dawn that they had themselves tried to approach the Cabinet Division after they did not receive the list on the night of Aug 13. He said they also tried to contact the people concerned, but got no response. More "urgent matters of state" require necessary attention :mrgreen:
Despite repeated attempts, no-one from the Cabinet Division could be contacted for comment.An attempt was also made to contact Minister of State for Information Marriyum Aurangzeb, but she too did not respond till filing of this report.All of them are probably "sulking" on the sacking of Ganja Sharif :mrgreen:
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Gwadar Fishermen Displaced As A Result Of CPEC

The travails of Gwadar’s fishermen
GWADAR: Situated on the shores of the Arabian Sea, the three-berth deep sea port of Gwadar looks mostly deserted. A small distance away from the empty port, several fishermen are going about their business, their boats tied to the harbour which has been merged with the port.“As you know, we (the fishermen) are [among the] oldest residents of Gwadar; we are the real people of the port town. But despite that, we have been abandoned,” says elderly Khuda Rahim Mallag, who has been fishing in these waters since he was a teenager.
Today, the fishermen fear that their displacement from Mulla Band would, in tragic irony, be followed by a slow and gradual displacement of the entire population of Gwadar port town. Because neither the fishermen, nor the people of Gwadar have been able to situate themselves in the country’s race for development, they lament.
The fishermen share that sometimes they, too, are not allowed to take their boats out into the sea during official visits because of security issues. One of the fishermen recalls that he was fishing in the sea near the Ormara side when the Navy Force caught up with him and accused him of being a spy.
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Dr Hafeez Jamali’s thesis titled, The Anxiety of Development: Megaproject and the Politics of Place in Gwadar, Pakistan, had led him to spend a lot of time with the fisher folk of Gwadar.Speaking to Dawn, he says, “Deep-sea trawlers are supposed to fish in deep sea which is 12 miles away from the coast. But actually, what happens is that they consistently refuse to follow rules pertaining to fishing within the shore. In this way, they snatch the livelihood of local fishermen. Mostly, these are Karachi-based trawlers who, after encroaching on the Sindh coastline and destroying the fishery stock along the Sindh coastline, started doing same along Makran coastline since the 1990s.”He cautions: “This is a direct threat to the livelihood of Gwadar’s fishermen...and thousands of families depending directly on fishing for livelihood along the Makran coast. Also, these trawlers are owned by influential, powerful people in Karachi.”
Jamali concludes, “As for the international trawlers, they present a different kind of threats because they are like small factories in the sea.” They are huge, and their capacity to catch, process fish is enormous. The Fisher folks will feel more alienated when the Chini blothers start settling in their neighbourhoods very shortly !
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chetak wrote: jinnah wanted to be able to also live in Bombay after partition he woud have been thrilled with dhimmi Indians

for Indian doctors, this treating paki business is the fastest way to a padma bushan
Actually things were very unfair for Jinnah.
Suar-worthy, actually lived in Calcutta at his house even post partition for several years.
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Gagan wrote:
chetak wrote: jinnah wanted to be able to also live in Bombay after partition he woud have been thrilled with dhimmi Indians

for Indian doctors, this treating paki business is the fastest way to a padma bushan
Actually things were very unfair for Jinnah.
Suar-worthy, actually lived in Calcutta at his house even post partition for several years.
unfair, saar??

who gives a schitt for the pakis??.

The big Q is, why did India tolerate this nonsense??
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Djinna was in a 400% me too mode.
If Suar could do it, then Djinn wanted to do it too!

These guys thought that they were just separating a separate state so they could be kings, but when they themselves got affected by it, and lost properties here, they tried their best to retain those. Shows the hollowness of it all. If even the top people who are credited with forming Pakistan, wanted to secure their properties in India, perhaps they were hedging their bets, these guys probably knew, that their experiment of Pakistan was going to fail sooner or later.
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For my sins, I did yesterday listen to a link on the BBC called Pakistan at 70 - Success or Failure? Well according to this program, its been a success! I care not to ask anyone to listen to it and to that end I will list just one snippet. The puki being interviewed said twice, that pukistan will need hundreds to years to evolve into a successful nation. I remain perplexed at the statement for I was always told by pukis that malsi had already a complete solution so why the wait. Reporter did not push the matter.
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Fully Posted on the OBOR, Chinese Strategy and Implications Thread

Decoding the Doklam puzzle: China may be fighting its border war on Pakistan front
Will India and China go to war over Doklam? India has refrained from showing any aggression so far. China has heightened the war rhetoric but without backing it with any solid action. It seems China does not want an actual war but a prolonged, war-like situation.
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Peregrine wrote:This Article warms the Cockles of my Heart - Can't believe it is from a Clapistani Opinion Maker. May be have a Long life and may his Wish be fulfilled!

Let them come home
+100 sir. I love it. We should also help them go forward. We can provide free drop facility to I-slum-abad for all those who want to move. Much better utilization of Haj subsidy. Extra discount for Pak-pasands who are in our jails and want to move. :twisted:
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Interesting thread on a spate of ISI biggies being bumped off in last few weeks in TSP in the DFI forum:
ISI folks being hallaled
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anupmisra wrote:
What the hell is the matter with the Sikhs in pakistan? Stockholm syndrome or fear of reprisals?
These could be Muslims disguised as Sikhs or Sikhs hoarded up by ISI taken for a show.

Both!! In 2000's I went to Bakistan and people are not allowed to go to Gurdwaras there., Gurudwaras are locked with Sikhs living inside and allowed only certain times (or when police/ISI demands) . In the heart of Lahore just opposite of the Fort of Lahore (Shahi Qila) there is a centuries old Gurdwara named Dera Sahib., It is the spot where 5th Guru Sri Guru Arjan Dev ji was murdered on the order of Jehangir the mughal emperor. This gurdwara was locked and I had to go to Wakf board office show them our passports and after ensuring that we are non-muslim they open up the lock., we went inside. Inside there were Sikh families living., head of each family was getting Rs 2000.00 (Paki rupees) per month as "Salary". while they did nothing., there was no langar and no prasad. In fact there was not even Sri Guru Granth Sahib. I asked them and the Sikhs said that only when Indian Sikhs come they bring Sri Guru Granth Sahib with them and then take it back. It has been desecreated so many times that they have decided to not keep it there.

One elder person started crying after I thanked him and gave him 5000 Pakistani rupees. They have basically given up their lives to keep historical Gurudwaras in their hand.

Bhagat Puran Singh was a sewadar in this Gurdwara and came to Amritsar in 1947

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Puran_Singh
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Tx Bajwa. May the soul of wahe guru rest in peace. Ek din iska badla hum jaroor lenge.I must write this on paper as it has been bothering me a long time, whatever anyone may think of Bhindranwale but the attack by the army on golden temple was the wrong thing to do , full stop.
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SBajwa wrote:They have basically given up their lives to keep historical Gurudwaras in their hand.

Bhagat Puran Singh was a sewadar in this Gurdwara and came to Amritsar in 1947
I was deeply touched by what you have written.

My heart goes out to those Sikhs, Hindus, Christians & Parsis who endure this abomination of a country due to force of circumstances.

I hope & pray that sooner than later this situation is changed and their sufferings come to a happy end.
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X Posted on the PESW THREAD

Pakistan may soon be ineligible for World Bank loans

ISLAMABAD: In an emerging development, Pakistan may soon become ineligible for financial assistance from one of the two main arms of the World Bank Group – the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD), as the country’s official foreign currency reserves are rapidly getting slimmer.

One of the key conditions for qualifying for IBRD loans is that the loan-seeking country should have official foreign currency reserves equivalent to three months of import bill.

Pakistan was touching that border line as its reserves stood at $14.3 billion on August 4, 2017.

These reserves include $3.9 billion in short-term borrowings by the central bank. By excluding the short-term forward contracts, the State Bank of Pakistan’s (SBP) net reserves will come down to $10.4 billion, according to the central bank data.

Sources in a multilateral lending agency and the Ministry of Finance told The Express Tribune that gross foreign currency reserves may slip below the threshold of three-month import cover either in the last week of August or the first week of September.

In order to rein in the declining reserves, the Ministry of Finance will have to immediately look for ways to ramp up the critical pool of foreign currency. Since the end of the International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) assistance programme 11 months ago, Pakistan’s official foreign currency reserves have dropped $4.2 billion.

Responding to the development, a spokesman for the Ministry of Finance said the SBP’s reserves totalled $14.398 billion on August 4, 2017, which were adequate for 3.2 months of imports.

He pointed out that an export package of Rs180 billion and improved global economic outlook had caused about 10.5% increase in exports in July 2017 compared to the same month of previous year. Apart from this, remittances from overseas Pakistanis have shown a healthy growth of 16% in July 2017.

As exports and remittances returned to the growth zone, the spokesman said, the government expected a significant increase in foreign direct investment and other inflows including official ones.

“With increased inflows together with expected reduction in non-essential imports due to the imposition of regulatory duty in the Finance Bill 2017, the SBP reserves are expected to strengthen in coming months,” he said.

Furthermore, the government was also working on more measures, which would be rolled out after finalisation, said the spokesman.

Ministry sources revealed that the government was reviewing different options to keep the reserves above the three-month import bill. These included incentives for expatriates to invest in Pakistani dollar-denominated bonds, more restrictions on imports and steps that will encourage exporters to bring back export proceeds.

The last three-month (May-July) import bill of Pakistan stood at $14.5 billion, showed the data compiled by the Pakistan Bureau of Statistics.

In the previous fiscal year, Pakistan’s total imports swelled to a record $53 billion and keeping that in view, the three-month average imports came in at $13.3 billion.

The IBRD lending had been stopped for most of the tenure of the previous PPP government and the World Bank Group restored it less than two years ago. The IBRD suspension carries implications for both project and programme financing.

The IBRD financing is relatively expensive and is usually linked with changes in the recipient country’s economic and financial policies.

The World Bank Group comprises five institutions. Its two arms – the IBRD and International Development Association (IDA) – give loans to governments.

The IBRD offers loans for projects, programmes or policy purpose as well as hedging products to help manage the currency and interest rate risk exposures.

IDA is a concessionary lending window that extends funds to the poorest developing countries.

In case, Pakistan is disqualified, its borrowing from the World Bank Group will be limited to the IDA, from where it can borrow only according to the quota.

Pakistan is among the few countries that qualify for both the IDA and IBRD assistance due to its creditworthiness.

Sources said if the World Bank stopped Pakistan from IBRD borrowing, it would also have implications for the country’s creditworthiness. Lenders define creditworthiness as “the ability to service new external debt at market interest rates over the long term”.

The World Bank has already declined to give policy loans to Pakistan until it depreciates the rupee against the US dollar. The bank’s decision reflected deterioration in the country’s external sector that was posing challenges to macroeconomic stability.

However, the Ministry of Finance insisted that dialogue with the bank for policy lending was under way and the exchange rate policy did not fall within the bank’s domain.

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