LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Aditya_V » 21 Dec 2017 16:46

Bharadwaj wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/air-force-issues-request-for-proposal-to-hal-for-83-tejas-aircrafts/article22061609.ece

Hindu reporting order will be done in 5 months...


The quote in this article is inaccurate

According to official figures, 14 squadrons of the MiG 21, MiG 27 and MiG 29 are due for retirement in the next 10 years which will bring down the fighter squadron strength to 19 by 2027 from the current 33.


Su-30 266 Aircraft I think will form 14-15 Aqaudrons
Jaguars will form 5 squadrons
M-2000 - 3 squadrons
Rafale -2 Squadrons
LCA IOC- FOC 2 Squadrons
ANd I dont the Mig-29's for which the upgrades are not yet complete will be retired by 2027- 3 squadrons.

And with this 83 Mk 1A, it will be 4 more squadrons by 2027. Hopefully more Su-30, FGFA will be ordered, and plus 2 more Rafale Squadrons.

I see IAF should be at around 33 + 2 Rafale + 2 More SU-30 plus 2 FGFA. IAF will most probably be at 39 Squadrons by 2027.

Hopefully with FGFA, AMCA, LCA Mk1- 1A, LCA MK2, we can address the retirement of Mig 29, M-2000, Jaguars retiring.

Another intersting point if there are 14 Squadrons of Mig 21 Bision, Mig 21 MF, Mig 27 H and Mig 29, it would indicate

1. Atleast 80 upgraded Mig 27H and how does the remaining squadrons add only to 19. There should be atleast 12 Squadrons of Su-30, 3 Squadrons of M -2000 and 5-6 Squadrons of Jaguar IS and IM AIrcraft. Which comes to 20-21 Squadrons.

Anyways hope that production of LCA/LCA Mk2 takes off and we can have 55 squadron strength by 2030- wish, double wish.

I am still thinking about the existing fleet, there were about 150 Mig 27's in 2010, In between 2015-18 we are retiring 3 sqaudrons of these. So there should around 90 upgraded Mig 27's. We should be having about 116 Jaguars and then around 110 Mig 21 Bisons, 48 M-2000, 60-65 Mig 29 and 236 Su-30.
That means a current fleet strength is around 640-650 fighters. Offcourse some of the M-2000, Jaguars, Mig 29's in the process of upgrade will not be available say 50 aircraft. given 65% fleet uptime means we cant present throw around 400 aircraft in combat. Pakis have 75 F-16, 100 JF 17, 70 Mirage 3 and about 50 F7 trainers and 30 F-7Pg.so They can effectively bring 200 fighters into combat.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby JTull » 21 Dec 2017 18:43

ashishvikas wrote:Not sure if this video has been shared earlier.

Frontlines S02 Ep16 - LCA Tejas - Indian Air Force's Make In India Fighter

https://www.indiatimes.com/videos/front ... 30984.html


Data-point:

Quote by Sqn Ldr Samrat. "4000+ sorties incl Testing and operational Sqn flying". Video was posted on FB on 20th Sept 17. ADA report from 31st Aug stated 3538 test flights. Implies the squadron had flown possibly 500+ sorties by Sept 17. Easily 150+ sorties by each aircraft (SP1-3) in a short span of time.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby srai » 21 Dec 2017 19:31

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According to official figures, 14 squadrons of the MiG 21, MiG 27 and MiG 29 are due for retirement in the next 10 years which will bring down the fighter squadron strength to 19 by 2027 from the current 33.
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How are these guys coming up 19 squadrons by 2027?

  • 14 x Su-30MKI *
  • 6 x Jaguar UPG
  • 3 x MiG-29 UPG
  • 3 x Mirage-2000 UPG
  • 2 x Rafale *
  • 2 x LCA Mk1 *
Total: 30 squadrons

* 8 more squadrons probable (2 x Su-30MKI, 2 x Rafale and 4 x LCA Mk1A) => 38 squadrons in 2027 if these additional are added. Few more LCA Mk1A and the IAF could easily reach its target 42 squadrons.

Not so dire as being reported!

Post 2030, the IAF would require 12 squadrons to replace Jaguar, MiG-29 and Mirage-2000. This is where LCA Mk.2 could act as a bridge (i.e. between 2027-2037) until AMCA is ready sometime after 2035.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Karan M » 21 Dec 2017 19:51

^^ Scare mongering at its worst.

This all stems from a Parliamentary committee report which was about "available fighters". IAF presented the available fighter strength as being equal to so many squadrons and the media has been running with it ever since.

Besides, after that report, serviceability of several fleets has been rising.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby SriKumar » 21 Dec 2017 20:34

JTull wrote:
ashishvikas wrote:Not sure if this video has been shared earlier.

Frontlines S02 Ep16 - LCA Tejas - Indian Air Force's Make In India Fighter

https://www.indiatimes.com/videos/front ... 30984.html


Data-point:

Quote by Sqn Ldr Samrat. "4000+ sorties incl Testing and operational Sqn flying". Video was posted on FB on 20th Sept 17. ADA report from 31st Aug stated 3538 test flights. Implies the squadron had flown possibly 500+ sorties by Sept 17. Easily 150+ sorties by each aircraft (SP1-3) in a short span of time.
Nice closeups of the craft. Is this Sulur air base in the video?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ArjunPandit » 21 Dec 2017 22:58

Dileep wrote:
YashG wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/iaf-to-order-83-more-tejas-but-has-got-only-5-of-40-ordered-earlier/articleshow/62184429.cms

The gentleman in the above article does hi sbest to malign LCA. For him 'FOC' or "Combat Ready' is the same. He argues that LCA is till not combat ready because it has not achieved FOC! (FOC != Combat Ready) This is deshdroh.


Dogs got to bark to please their masters na?

While rajat pandit never came across as patriotic one, but this one is going right into treachery if not treason. I think he's barking/biting at the behest of his lifafa/mithai/malai providers

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Philip » 21 Dec 2017 23:02

This time the letter has been sent.Maybe two yrs ago it may have said yes, but there were constant negatives that came regularly while the SEF req. hotted up.The big break will be when we cross the 120+ first batches and order more , exceeding HF-24 production! That is still the magic figure to beat for no. of Indian designed fighters manufactured.The sooner HAL gets its production accelerated, the more LCA orders it will get.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Vivek K » 22 Dec 2017 00:31

shiv wrote:
Vivek K wrote:At its peak IAF probably flew 800 - 1200 Mig-21 aircraft. .

I have been following the IAF for 50 plus years. I have never come across this figure. Ever. Even the entire IAF has never had so many fighters at any given time
http://www.warbirdsofindia.com/maharash ... useum.html
The Hindustan Aeronautics Limited's factory, HAL Ozhar has manufactured nearly 600 MiG-21s of FL, M and Bis variants over the years.

I came across this "Since 1963, India has introduced more than 1,200 MiG fighters into its air force" on Wikipedia link for Mig-21 which I realize is not authentic. However, you point out 600 manufactured in India and perhaps some bought in fly away condition too? So 70-800 would be a ball park estimate?

And this

The MiGs on the other hand went on to become one of the star performers of the IAF after the Soviet Union offered full TOT and rights for local assembly for its latest fighter in the 1960’s. Since then, the IAF has operated over 800 MiG 21 and over a 1200 MiGs in general, catering to the IAF’s various operational roles of Ground attack, Reconnaissance, Interception and even close combat Dog-fighting.

on IDRW on Mig-21s - again a unreliable site.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Kartik » 22 Dec 2017 01:21

YashG wrote:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/iaf-to-order-83-more-tejas-but-has-got-only-5-of-40-ordered-earlier/articleshow/62184429.cms

The gentleman in the above article does hi sbest to malign LCA. For him 'FOC' or "Combat Ready' is the same. He argues that LCA is till not combat ready because it has not achieved FOC! (FOC != Combat Ready) This is deshdroh.


He is no gentleman. He's a man who IMO, is a shining example of a compromised reporter. He has a clear agenda, and that is to malign the program, which is why he immediately inserts snide and untrue remarks about the program having been "approved" (WTF does that mean?!) in 1983. Now, those readers who aren't aware of the facts, will be led to think that this is a program that has been in the works since then, but only getting orders in 2017. So must be a failure right? This maha chutiya won't say the same about ANY import that he does dalaali for.

Easily, the worst journo in the business. Rajat Pandit. C grade.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ramana » 22 Dec 2017 02:23

Philip wrote:The decision must be cheered! The IAF has at last come aboard for the 120+ LCAs.Mk-2 is another matter,which we shall see next year when extra Rafales/SEFs compete for deal sealing. Now with the 120+ orders assured,the GOI/MOD must start touting the LCA with friendly nations who have limited budgets,large numbers of MIG-21s,etc. requiring replacement.Why, the LCA could even challenge the F-16 once we can assure support for the same.



+108. You have proven Kakkaji wrong.

Deejay. It must be cheered for Philip is onboard.

BTW Its possible that once HAL replies to the RFP it could be fastracked as everyone is on board.

My question is those 10 trainers are they same as the earlier trainers or are tehse Mk1A trainers?

Looks like the 20 IOC had 4 trainers in the set. I don't know if the FOC had any trainers.


From Ajai Shukla article:
Acknowledging the manufacturing delay in Parliament on Wednesday, the defence ministry stated: “Out of total 20 IOC aircraft (16 fighters and 4 trainers), 5 fighters have been delivered by HAL to IAF till date. The production of remaining 15 IOC aircraft (11 fighters + 4 trainers) are taken up at HAL.”

Further, “Production for 20 FOC aircraft, will be taken up after FOC clearance by Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA)
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Some questions on this:
So far no trainers from the batch of 4 have been completed.
HAL's Raju was saying the SOP for trainer is still not frozen in a recent interview. So what's going on here?
Is it ADA still?

FOC is hung up with ADA. What is the due date to get the FOC clearance?

This will be a major milestone and pacing item for the Mk1.





While HAL builds these 40 Tejas Mark 1 fighters, it is also working on four major upgrades that will transform the current version of the fighter into the Tejas Mark 1A, of which 83 will be built.

Of the four upgrades, the two most operationally vital involve integrating the fighter with “active electronically scanned array” (AESA) radar, in place of the Tejas Mark 1’s manually scanned Israeli Elta EL/M 2032 radar; and integrating a “self-protection jammer” (SPJ) that is carried in an external pod under the Tejas’ wing.

Two other upgrades – improving the “maintainability” of the fighter, and fitting it with external refuelling capability – are already well in hand.


The defence ministry told Parliament today that, to introduce the Tejas into service in larger numbers, a second production line was being set up. “For ramping up production capacity from existing 8 aircraft to 16 aircraft per annum, Government of India has sanctioned Rs 1,381.04 crore in March 2017”.



Is the AESA radar the Elta or the RBE2? have they made up their mind? Dileep?

We know the SPJ pod shell contract was being RFPed.


We keep hearing about the second assy line.

Looks like money was sanctioned from MoD for this in March 2017.

So what was that half assy line setup in the former Hawk assy line by HAL?
Who paid for it and whats its status?

PV5 the first of that line is rolled out and is going through tests before handing over.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Rakesh » 22 Dec 2017 02:30

I am Late to the Party, But Still ----> Kudos to the IAF and the MoD for ordering the 83 Mk1As. Awesome News!

Please also celebrate this ---> viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5754&p=2239307#p2239307

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Rakesh » 22 Dec 2017 03:02

Read the whole thing. Awesome article. I would suggest, go to the link...drink some chai and enjoy! :mrgreen:

Why the fight for Tejas and Arjun is not just about defence forces
http://www.governancenow.com/views/colu ... nce-forces
They are symbols of decades of research and hard work accumulating, integrating and establishing technologies that have the potential to transform India’s model of growth and development.

Tejas is not just a fighter plane and Arjun is not just a heavy tank. They are representatives – metaphorically and materially – of the densely networked and sophisticated Indian ecosystem that has been in the making for the last 60 years. It’s composed of scientists, engineers and factory workers of different kinds – from material sciences, metallurgical engineering, propulsion systems to inertial guidance systems, software engineers specialising in fly-by-wire software systems and aeronautical engineering.

There is a third force, hidden in plain sight as it may, that has exponentially grown in size and power ever since the economic liberalisation of the 1990s. Composed of a wide variety of thought leaders, think tankers, academics, policymakers and bureaucrats, and former bureaucrats, senior journalists, Big 5 and non-Big 5 consultants – mostly trained in foreign universities, foundations, scientific and engineering academies and multilateral institutions like World Bank and International Monetary Fund – they have over the years come to occupy crucial positions in a whole host of institutions, trade bodies and civil society organisations. This seemingly amorphous group, and I use the word seemingly in all seriousness, is deeply wedded to the idea that India’s growth, progress and prosperity lie in collaborating and entering into partnerships with foreign companies, even on terms that are not conducive for India’s development and growth, global conglomerates, multilateral institutional mechanisms that promote free trade, intellectual property rights and the patents regime and generally being in line with the global economy and its concomitant geopolitics.

Such was its performance that several of the veteran journalists called it ‘the best’ that they had seen in years. The most interesting and eye-opening impact was revealed to me a few months back by a senior Swedish engineer working for SAAB, the company that makes the multirole fighter Gripen. It seems that Tejas’s performance at the BAS, where Rangachari actually pulled a 9 ’G’ manoeuvre (a golden standard), stacked up enough points for the Swedish company to prepare an internal comparative evaluation of the two aircraft for use for presenting Gripen to Indian policymakers. He also revealed that there were strong rumours that the Americans got so spooked by positive reviews that they actually asked two EA-18 growlers – a specialised electronics warfare variant of F/A-18 – to take to the air from a nearby base at the precise same moment as Tejas demonstration to evaluate its performance.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ArjunPandit » 22 Dec 2017 03:16

^^while the last part may be exaggeration or just khannate style intel ops for the pptgiri for teens, spooking is a bit too much. Who's this guy? much better than rajat pandit.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Khalsa » 22 Dec 2017 03:25

Dileep wrote:The 414s will be used for AMCA TD as I understand. Two of the TDs are apparently sanctioned.


Tell me more, with sources if possible.
Do you know anything about the Team and where it is being formed.

Thanks

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Khalsa » 22 Dec 2017 03:29

I shall keep it simple
Congratulations to all , at ADA, HAL, IAF, MoD, BR and the Republic of India.

Victory for the common man, no matter where he(she) works and what he(she) does.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ramana » 22 Dec 2017 05:05

ArjunPandit wrote:^^while the last part may be exaggeration or just khannate style intel ops for the pptgiri for teens, spooking is a bit too much. Who's this guy? much better than rajat pandit.


Karnad jr.?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Indranil » 22 Dec 2017 05:37

R. Swaminathan, if you are reading this, please email me at indranilr@jeemard

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Kakkaji » 22 Dec 2017 06:23

ramana wrote:
Philip wrote:The decision must be cheered! The IAF has at last come aboard for the 120+ LCAs.Mk-2 is another matter,which we shall see next year when extra Rafales/SEFs compete for deal sealing. Now with the 120+ orders assured,the GOI/MOD must start touting the LCA with friendly nations who have limited budgets,large numbers of MIG-21s,etc. requiring replacement.Why, the LCA could even challenge the F-16 once we can assure support for the same.



+108. You have proven Kakkaji wrong.

Deejay. It must be cheered for Philip is onboard.


I am pleasantly surprised, and apologize to Philip Saheb. 8)

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Dileep » 22 Dec 2017 07:26

Ref Radar: The blades of grass fly in the direction of Thales, but no firm call has been taken AFAIK.

A general disclaimer: I have no journalist creds to quote "sources". I only have 'chaiwala' information.

Let me define 'chaiwala' information here by the age old 'neti.. neti..' technique of yindoo philosophy:

1. Anything that comes to you as part of your job is NOT.
2. Anything you hear in an official meeting is NOT.
3. Anything told to you with an implied understanding of secrecy is NOT.
4. Anything that is unlikely to get into open source soon is NOT.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Cybaru » 22 Dec 2017 07:26

ArjunPandit wrote:^^while the last part may be exaggeration or just khannate style intel ops for the pptgiri for teens, spooking is a bit too much. Who's this guy? much better than rajat pandit.


Par for the course saar! SOP. The spookiness reason seems over the top, but curiosity and intel gathering are pretty normal I suppose.
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Postby Cybaru » 22 Dec 2017 07:32

Dileep wrote:Ref Radar: The blades of grass fly in the direction of Thales, but no firm call has been taken AFAIK.


That will make LCA expensive but more formidable. The 1.8 billion dollar tot news might be correct then. I hope they get it with source and all so we can integrate our missiles with ease.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Philip » 22 Dec 2017 10:16

No need for anyone to apologise.Until about 4 yrs ago there was doubt about the LCA meeting the IAF's approval.The first act by the GOI forcing the OAF to accept the 40+ MK-1s set the ball rolling for both the IAF but also HAL/ ADA. to deliver the goofs.They suddenly found out that setting up an assembly line was tech in itself.All out prev. manufacturing lines benefited from the OEM' s handholding.Sheer economics also dictated that the LCA which had come so far had to be pushed over the finishing line for the sake of the future of India's domestic
military aircraft industry.

Now even MK-1 A is a compromise and the IAF is consistent in saying that MK-2 will meet its performance reqs.But MK-1A will be a good replacement for legacy MIG-21s, MK-2 even better.As said, to further improve its prospects we must swiftly offer the same to friendly nations esp.Sri Lanka to deter the Sino- Pak JF-17 being sold there.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Rakesh » 22 Dec 2017 11:41

Philip: If Mk1 is equal (in some respects) better to Mirage 2000C, the Mk1A will far exceed the C and be on par with Dash-9 and will have a superior radar (AESA).

Mk2 will be a different beast altogether. It will be on par with the Gripen E. Mk 2 represents an existential threat to SEF. R Swaminathan’s article is an eye opener.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Aditya_V » 22 Dec 2017 11:50

Vivek K wrote:
shiv wrote:I have been following the IAF for 50 plus years. I have never come across this figure. Ever. Even the entire IAF has never had so many fighters at any given time
http://www.warbirdsofindia.com/maharash ... useum.html

I came across this "Since 1963, India has introduced more than 1,200 MiG fighters into its air force" on Wikipedia link for Mig-21 which I realize is not authentic. However, you point out 600 manufactured in India and perhaps some bought in fly away condition too? So 70-800 would be a ball park estimate?

And this

The MiGs on the other hand went on to become one of the star performers of the IAF after the Soviet Union offered full TOT and rights for local assembly for its latest fighter in the 1960’s. Since then, the IAF has operated over 800 MiG 21 and over a 1200 MiGs in general, catering to the IAF’s various operational roles of Ground attack, Reconnaissance, Interception and even close combat Dog-fighting.

on IDRW on Mig-21s - again a unreliable site.


This is correct, it says Mig's - the Mig 21, Mig 23, Mig 25, Mig 27, Mig 29 and Mig 29K. Other than Mig 21, that is 120 Mig 23, 170 Mig 27, 12 Mig 25 75 Mig 29 A/B/C and 45 Mig -29 for Navy. So that 400-450 Mig's other than the Mig 21 variants.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby venkat_r » 22 Dec 2017 12:27

Great news on the additional 83 to be procured, as and when this goes through, paves the way forward for MK 2 and others

Big step forward by the GOI

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Indranil » 22 Dec 2017 12:37

Dileep Sir,

My chai has different colour. I am still being told that it is for Elta to lose the order. I am also being told that it is trying very hard to lose it. Second comes Thales. Uttam comes a distant third. It is all about speed now

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Indranil » 22 Dec 2017 12:43

I am also being told that 300-400kg weight loss is possible. They are going to bring in every change from the Mk2 possible. Even ADA feels MK1A will be much better than MK1.

2052 is lighter. They are going to consolidate LRUs and save on brackets, mounts etc., lose the ballast, lose the flab on the LGs. It’s feasible.

OBOGs is coming for sure. If they pull in the aero reshaping for lesser transonic/supersonic drag, then you are speaking of an exceptional light fighter. If CSIO can get a wider fRameless HUD, that will be the cherry on top.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ks_sachin » 22 Dec 2017 12:48

Indranil wrote:Dileep Sir,

My chai has different colour. I am still being told that it is for Elta to lose the order. I am also being told that it is trying very hard to lose it. Second comes Thales. Uttam comes a distant third. It is all about speed now

Indranil why the behaviour from Elta? Any ideas?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Indranil » 22 Dec 2017 13:11

Don't know. Overconfidence, smugness.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby pushkar.bhat » 22 Dec 2017 13:43

Bharadwaj wrote:http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/air-force-issues-request-for-proposal-to-hal-for-83-tejas-aircrafts/article22061609.ece

Hindu reporting order will be done in 5 months...


I think they are going to lock up the HAL, IAF and MoD Teams in a room and tell them they can leave only once they push the signed contract copies out of the door. That is the only way we can make this happen in 5 months flat. :rotfl:

I will be very happy if they can make it happen.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby JayS » 22 Dec 2017 13:55

Indranil wrote:I am also being told that 300-400kg weight loss is possible. They are going to bring in every change from the Mk2 possible. Even ADA feels MK1A will be much better than MK1.

2052 is lighter. They are going to consolidate LRUs and save on brackets, mounts etc., lose the ballast, lose the flab on the LGs. It’s feasible.

OBOGs is coming for sure. If they pull in the aero reshaping for lesser transonic/supersonic drag, then you are speaking of an exceptional light fighter. If CSIO can get a wider fRameless HUD, that will be the cherry on top.


I was told by ADA guy in AI-17 that even 800kg is possible and HAL is very confident on doing this.

But Chaiwalla news need to be taken with pinch of salt.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Singha » 22 Dec 2017 14:12

>>If CSIO can get a wider fRameless HUD

extremely needed, and with a suave green tint for psyops posed photos. its been a brf todo item forever.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby suryag » 22 Dec 2017 14:16

IR sir, does the 50cm plug mentioned in MK2 activities improve the drag situation even without the 414 ?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby JayS » 22 Dec 2017 14:19

suryag wrote:IR sir, does the 50cm plug mentioned in MK2 activities improve the drag situation even without the 414 ?


It does. The plug and Engine are independent from each other.

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Cybaru » 22 Dec 2017 14:29

Wait, what? The plug is still on with old engine?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Ramu » 22 Dec 2017 14:34

Does the MK1A order mean MK1 is exportable now?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ashishvikas » 22 Dec 2017 14:49

LCA-TEJAS admin on Facebook has released SP7 picture.

https://www.facebook.com/tejas.lca/post ... 3265768782

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby Aditya_V » 22 Dec 2017 14:58

So how Many LCA's have been manufactured till date

1. 2 TD
2. 8 PV
3. 8 LSP's
4. 6 Sp
5. 2 LCA Navy.

So far 26 aircraft?

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Re: LCA: News & Discussions: 15 August 2017

Postby ashishvikas » 22 Dec 2017 15:07

Aditya_V wrote:So how Many LCA's have been manufactured till date

1. 2 TD
2. 8 PV
3. 8 LSP's
4. 6 Sp
5. 2 LCA Navy.

So far 26 aircraft?


I was maintaing a list for SPs, but Tejas's Official site does it better.

http://tejas.gov.in/first_flights.html

Aircraft Aircraft No. First Flight Pilot
TD-1 KH2001 04-Jan-01 Wg. Cdr. Rajiv Kothiyal
TD- 2 KH2002 06-Jun-02 Wg. Cdr. Tarun Banerjee
PV-1 KH2003 25-Nov-03 Sqn. Ldr. Suneet Krishna
PV-2 KH2004 01-Dec-05 Wg. Cdr. Vikram Singh
PV-3 KH2005 01-Dec-06 Gp. Capt. Harish
LSP-1 KH2011 25-Apr-07 Gp. Capt. AP Singh
LSP-2 KH2012 16-Jun-08 Wg. Cdr. N Tiwari
PV-5 KH-T2009 26-Nov-09 Gp. Capt. R Tyagi & Air Cmde Rohit Varma
LSP-3 KH2013 23-Apr-10 Wg. Cdr. G Thomas
LSP-4 KH2014 02-Jun-10 Gp. Capt. Suneet Krishna
LSP-5 KH2015 19-Nov-10 Lt. Cdr. Ankur Jain
LSP-7 KH2017 09-Mar-12 Gp. Capt. KK Venugopal
NP-1 KHN-T-3001 27-Apr-12 Commodore J.A. Maolankar (IN) & Wg. Cdr. M Prabhu
LSP-8 KH2018 31-Mar-13 Air. Cmde K A Muthanna (Retd)
SP-1 LA-5001 01-Oct-14 Air. Cmde. K A Muthanna (Retd)
PV-6 KH-T-2010 08-Nov-14 Gp. Capt. Vivart Singh & Gp Capt Kabadwal
NP-2 NAVY-3002 07-Feb-15 Capt. Shivnath Dahiya (IN)
SP-2 LA-5002 22-Mar-16 Gp. Capt. K K Venugopal (Retd)
SP-3 LA-5003 28-Sep-16 Air. Cmde. K A Muthanna (Retd)
SP-4 LA-5004 03-Mar-17 Gp. Capt. KK Venugopal (Retd)
SP-6 LA-5006 30-Jun-17 Gp. Capt. KK Venugopal (Retd)
SP-7 LA-5007 12-Dec-17 Gp. Capt. KK Venugopal (Retd)


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