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Postby Austin » 31 Aug 2017 09:52

Training launch by the strategic forces of the Korean People's Army BRDS "Hwaseon-12"
For the first time, a North Korean medium-range ballistic missile flew through one of the main Japanese islands. In 1998 and 2009 North Korean missiles also flew through them, but then they were unsuccessful launches of carrier rockets with satellites. This time a Hwaseon-12 missile flew across Japan, potentially capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. According to the South Korean Joint Chiefs of Staff, the missile flew about 2,700 km on its way to the place of the fall in the Pacific.

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Pyongyang, August 30. / KTK / - Chairman of the WPK, Chairman of the State Council of the DPRK, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the KPA, Supreme Leader of the Party, State and Army, Comrade Kim Jong-un led on-site exercises of the launch of the strategic ballistic missile of the KPA strategic and long-range forces.

The exercise was watched by the responsible workers of the Central Committee of the TPK, including Li B'en Chor, Kim Jong Sik, Kyaw Yong Won and Yu Jin, and research workers in defense science, including Zhang Chang Ha, Jeong-il-ho.

The commander of the KPA met on the spot, including the commander of strategic forces of the KPA, the general of the strategic army Kim Rak Kem.

The exercises involve Hwaseong artillery units of KPA strategic troops, who undertook to strike at the bases of American aggressive forces in the operational zone of the Pacific region in an emergency situation, and the strategic long-range strategic ballistic missile Hwaseon-12.

As everyone knows, the exercises of launching a strategic ballistic missile of medium and long-range strategic forces of the KPA were conducted as part of the response armed demonstrations for the joint military exercises "Yilzhi Freedom Guardian", held with a call to our warning with great significance.

The exercises of the KPA strategic troops were conducted with a combination of unexpected maneuver and impact in order to assess the combat readiness of the urgent response of our strategic armed forces in an emergency situation, to confirm the ability to use a new strategic ballistic missile of medium and long range in real combat.

Hwaseon's artillery guns, which will be the first to hold the exercises in the capital of our country on the orders of a respected senior leader, were burning with enthusiasm.

The honored high-level leader arrived at the launch site in the early morning, examined the actions of the Hwaseong gunners for the rapid deployment of the Hwaseong-12 missile launcher and the launch preparation, praised them for their deft and precise movement.

The esteemed senior leader was specifically acquainted with the plan for launching a strategic ballistic missile, scheduled for a flight orbit, a target-aquatorium and gave the order to launch.

The strategic ballistic missile "Hwaseong-12" with the dignity and power of the Juche-oriented nuclear power rose at once, coloring the sky of Pyongyang with a red luster.

A fired ballistic missile flew along the planned flight orbit over the Oshima peninsula and the Erimo cape of the island of Hokkaido, and accurately struck the target-the water area.

The exercise of launching a strategic ballistic missile of medium and long range did not have any negative effects on the security of neighboring countries.

Through the exercises, the ability to use the missile in a real battle of the artillery section of strategic troops and the combat capability of a new strategic ballistic missile of medium and long range are estimated perfect.

The distinguished top leader expressed great satisfaction with the successful launch of the Hwaseon-12 missile.

The distinguished senior leader noted that artillerymen of the "Hwaseong" unit became experts in the system of the new ultramodern missile and are good at controlling the equipment. And he said that through these exercises they gained good experience in operating the missile in combat conditions.

The distinguished senior leader stressed that these ballistic missile launch exercises, reminiscent of a real battle, are the beginning of the military operation of our army in the Pacific and a significant prelude to deter the island of Guam - the outpost base of aggression. And he noted that they should continue to actively increase the combat capability and level of preparation for the present battle, accelerate the modernization of the strategic armed forces through continuous exercises chosen by the Pacific Ocean.

The esteemed senior leader sternly said that the US responded militantly with aggressive military exercises to our warning, and noted that today's strategic military exercises are only the beginning of decisive countermeasures against the joint US military exercises "Ulchi Freedom Guardian" and their satellites.

The distinguished senior leader stressed that one can not properly approach the US, who ignored our proposal to ease the extremely acute situation and behave impudently and must be shown by action - this is the lesson learned this time. And he noted that we, as already highlighted, will continue to monitor the words and actions of the US and decide the appropriate next action.

He expressed great hope and confidence that soldiers and officers more strengthen the combat readiness of the "Hwaseong" in accordance with the requirements of a harsh environment, consistently and fully prepared powerful ballistic missiles to launch at any time. And thereby to restrain the military excesses of the US imperialists and their satellites and reliably guarantee the security of the Motherland and the happiness of the people.

All the soldiers and officers of the KPA strategic troops presented their most grateful gratitude to Comrade Kim Jong-un, an outstanding patriot and hero of the nation, for having allowed the launching of a ballistic missile of bloody August 29th, which marks the 107th anniversary of the day of publication of the shameful agreement of the so-called "annexation of Korea by Japan", and ripped off the anger of our people. And they took an oath to fulfill their sacred mission and duty as the reliable nuclear forces of the WPK at the outpost of the final holy war, when the anti-imperialist and anti-American struggle will be summed up, if there is an order from the Central Committee of the WPK. Video

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Postby Austin » 31 Aug 2017 09:55

Hwaseon-12 BM

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Postby Austin » 31 Aug 2017 09:56

Launch of Hwasong-12 missile by DPRK 29.08.2017


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Postby Austin » 31 Aug 2017 12:23

South Korea: Seoul shows force with live-fire drills following N. Korean missile launch over Japan


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Postby Austin » 31 Aug 2017 12:23

North KOREA Military Power 2017 Army Navy Air Force



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Postby chola » 01 Sep 2017 21:06

How the hell NoKo operates 70 subs?!

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Postby Austin » 01 Sep 2017 21:07

chola wrote:How the hell NoKo operates 70 subs?!


Old and Gold Class

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_a ... #Submarine

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Postby chola » 01 Sep 2017 22:16

Ah Austin, so a vast majority of them are midget subs under 300 tons with a crew of 15.

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Postby Austin » 02 Sep 2017 11:49

chola wrote:Ah Austin, so a vast majority of them are midget subs under 300 tons with a crew of 15.


Yes and considering the distance their subs will have to travel to attack targets in SoKO even via coastline wont exceed 500-1000 km they dont really need a bigger sub .....on battery power midgets subs are quite and are small targets to deal with if manned by skilled crew.

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Postby Austin » 02 Sep 2017 11:50

Gives a good view of North Korea space facility


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Postby chola » 02 Sep 2017 14:22

Austin wrote:
chola wrote:Ah Austin, so a vast majority of them are midget subs under 300 tons with a crew of 15.


Yes and considering the distance their subs will have to travel to attack targets in SoKO even via coastline wont exceed 500-1000 km they dont really need a bigger sub .....on battery power midgets subs are quite and are small targets to deal with if manned by skilled crew.



A shrewd move on their part, I'm sure. I was just taken aback by the figure of 70 subs because I was thinking along the lines of conventional subs like scorpenes and kilos.

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Postby ramana » 03 Sep 2017 02:12

Austin, Thanks for the thread. We should have started in 1998 after the transfer of Nodong 2 to Pakistan. Also called Ghauri.

Also, folks deleting useless posts.

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 10:15

North Korea appears to have conducted sixth nuclear test

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/03/asia/ ... l?adkey=bn

Seoul, South Korea (CNN)North Korea has appeared to have conducted a sixth nuclear test.
Seismological data from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) showed that an explosion caused a 6.3-magnitude tremor in the country's northeast, not far from the country's Punggey-ri nuclear test site.

South Korea's Meteorological Administration called it a "man-made" earthquake.

South Korea will hold a National Security Council meeting at 12:30 a.m. ET to discuss the incident according to South Korea's Presidential office. The meeting will be presided by President Moon Jae-in.

Japan Meteorological Agency also observed a magnitude-6.1 tremor in North Korea, which showed a different waveform from a natural quake around 12:31 p.m. local (11:31 p.m. ET).

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 10:18

North Korea says it has developed ‘advanced hydrogen bomb’ that can be fitted on ICBM

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North Korea has developed a new, more advanced hydrogen nuke that is small enough to be fitted on a new intercontinental ballistic missile, state media KCNA has claimed.

According to the KCNA report, North Korea's Nuclear Weapons Institute has created a “more developed nuke,” bringing about a “signal turn” in the country’s nuclear arsenal. Kim Jong-un, the country’s leader, inspected the new weapon during his visit to the nuclear facility.


North Korean leader Kim Jong Un provides guidance on a nuclear weapons program in this undated photo released by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency © KCNA / Reuters

Scientists “further upgraded its technical performance at a higher ultra-modern level on the basis of precious successes made in the first H-bomb test,” KCNA said, boasting about the progress of the domestic weapons program.


“The Nuclear Weapons Research Institute has recently achieved a higher level of research and production of nuclear weapons,” in accordance with the country’s strategic plan of nuclear weaponization, KCNA said.

“Our hydrogen fuel, which can be arbitrarily adjusted from tens of to hundreds of kilotons depending on the target of the nuclear strike, not only exerts enormous destructive power,” but can also explode at a high altitude, producing a “super powerful EMP [electromagnetic pulse] against a vast region,” it said.


“It is a multifunctional thermonuclear combat unit,” KCNA said, adding that all of its elements are “100% localized and all processes necessary for the production of nuclear weapons are integrated.”

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 10:19

Looks like Dial A Yeald types H-Device

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Postby rohiths » 03 Sep 2017 10:25

The explosion is between 750kT to 1 MT and is a H bomb. We can expect Pakis to get the same.

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Postby sudeepj » 03 Sep 2017 11:18

Successive feckless US administrations have led to a new axis of totalitarian regimes.. China, NK, and Pak. While the democracies that are at the mercy of genocidal weapons, in the hands of genocidal regimes.

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Postby Gyan » 03 Sep 2017 11:21

Rumours of upto 2megaton test. Might be latest Chinese attempt to build light 2 megaton devices as part of its peaceful rise.

As usual Japan will act sissy in front of real perpetrator ie China and shout at NK

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Postby Gyan » 03 Sep 2017 11:27

We should label this thread as Joint Chinese and North Korean Military Complex and Nuclear tests.

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 11:33

I think North Korea had the capability to build a N-Bomb , No one really knows if this is a boosted fission device or a True H-Bomb , Sesimic signal can get us all wrong as we know from our own test

Looks like NoKo feels War is Imminent and is running ahead of schedule to test every thing it can wheather it works or not.

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Postby rohiths » 03 Sep 2017 11:36

South Korea is even worse than India in confronting a bully. They should have attacked and finished NK a few years back. It may be too late and shit may hit the fan now

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 11:37

North Korea Missile Range

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Postby Gyan » 03 Sep 2017 11:48

North Korea by itself cannot even manufacture a bicycle. It's basically continued series of Chinese tests. Additionally well placed threat to USA through NK. China has been able to prevent a war while Russia is fighting them all over the place.

We should label this thread as "Joint Chinese and North Korean Military Complex, Missile and Nuclear tests"

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Postby ashish raval » 03 Sep 2017 13:30

Gyan wrote:North Korea by itself cannot even manufacture a bicycle. It's basically continued series of Chinese tests. Additionally well placed threat to USA through NK. China has been able to prevent a war while Russia is fighting them all over the place.

We should label this thread as "Joint Chinese and North Korean Military Complex, Missile and Nuclear tests"

How do you know this? I think they have good manufacturing industries, although not at same level as soko, China or Japan but certainly fairly developed one. It is because they can't export things does not mean they don't have technology. They have certainly benefitted from China in terms of manufacturing as lot of Chinese items use noko labour as well as technicians and they certainly have brains of Koreans and not pakis per se. Ignore them at your own peril.

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 13:41

The best way to solve this crisis is Diplomacy . Trump has been extra-ordinary belligerent and so has been Noko Leader.

Any war even minus the nukes will create huge refugee problem in millions for SoKO , China and Russia and millions life lost on both sides on the scale of WW2

The NoKo Crisis is more like a cooked up one by Trump , He tried to Cancel Iran Nuke Deal only to be met by Strong Resentment by EU and other to the party that failed , He attacked Syria over Chemical Wepons without any Evidence , Recent Seizure indicates those Chemicals came from UK and US supplied to the Militants , then he Tried to Sanction China only to be met by Strong Reaction by Demps who whole heardly support China , Corporate US and even some members of Rep party.

That left only the NoKo issue to be played by him to divert issue from his Domestic Crisis which again is a phoney one created by BO and Dems. Now this major test leaves every one in difficult situation.

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Postby Austin » 03 Sep 2017 13:43

ashish raval wrote:
Gyan wrote:North Korea by itself cannot even manufacture a bicycle. It's basically continued series of Chinese tests. Additionally well placed threat to USA through NK. China has been able to prevent a war while Russia is fighting them all over the place.

We should label this thread as "Joint Chinese and North Korean Military Complex, Missile and Nuclear tests"

How do you know this? I think they have good manufacturing industries, although not at same level as soko, China or Japan but certainly fairly developed one. It is because they can't export things does not mean they don't have technology. They have certainly benefitted from China in terms of manufacturing as lot of Chinese items use noko labour as well as technicians and they certainly have brains of Koreans and not pakis per se. Ignore them at your own peril.


+ 1 , its easy to say to any country that they cant do this but if a survival is at stake and your belly is on fire , Humans are quite capable of doing extra ordinary things.

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Postby Singha » 03 Sep 2017 14:20

the pic showing him looking at the device exactly matches the contours of a H bomb which is like the shell of a peanut with two nuts inside.

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Postby Gerard » 03 Sep 2017 18:06

They received bicycle manufacturing technology from China a few years ago. It was noted on the forum. Since then the advances have been astounding. Off road mobile, cold launched ICBMs, miniaturized TN weapons. They clearly are putting all their resources into this. Regime survival.

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Postby Gyan » 03 Sep 2017 19:02

Isolated field of high tech manufactering in an internationally sanctioned nation is utter rubbish theory. NK GDP is USD 30 Billion ie 1/10th of Sri Lanka. Small nations like Singapore or Taiwan have Giant economies but they have International trade links for developing such commercial products. NK is just displaying Chinese goods in empty warehouses. Never any manufactering line for any product. Iran with 15 times the economy & Pakistan help could develop zilch in nukes. Even Pakistan could not develop nukes without China will having unlimited money from Saudis & ten times the economy of NK.
NK is just the middle finger of Chinese body, with no existence without China

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Postby Gyan » 03 Sep 2017 19:08

Gerard wrote:They received bicycle manufacturing technology from China a few years ago. It was noted on the forum. Since then the advances have been astounding. Off road mobile, cold launched ICBMs, miniaturized TN weapons. They clearly are putting all their resources into this. Regime survival.


They won't be able to even maintain machines if given free. In any case Missile & nuke manufactering requires a whole eco system & industrial Base. Right from labs to bearings, lubricants, propellants, explosives, pyrotechnics, INS, steel, aluminium, copper, industries etc.

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Postby Gerard » 03 Sep 2017 19:11

rohiths wrote:South Korea is even worse than India in confronting a bully. They should have attacked and finished NK a few years back. It may be too late and shit may hit the fan now


A few years back, NoKo military forces, especially their artillery, were extremely formidable. Nothing has changed.
Neither Pakistan nor North Korea were pushovers who could be easily finished. Both also have powerful backers.

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Postby Gerard » 03 Sep 2017 19:17

Gyan wrote:They won't be able to even maintain machines if given free. In any case Missile & nuke manufactering requires a whole eco system & industrial Base.


They don't have to make everything. This is a nation state with significant resources. They will buy and smuggle in whatever they need. There is no doubt that this is end result of Chinese proliferation but NoKo seems to have progressed far beyond the Paki assembly stage.

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Gyan wrote:Isolated field of high tech manufactering in an internationally sanctioned nation is utter rubbish theory. NK GDP is USD 30 Billion ie 1/10th of Sri Lanka. Small nations like Singapore or Taiwan have Giant economies but they have International trade links for developing such commercial products. NK is just displaying Chinese goods in empty warehouses. Never any manufactering line for any product. Iran with 15 times the economy & Pakistan help could develop zilch in nukes. Even Pakistan could not develop nukes without China will having unlimited money from Saudis & ten times the economy of NK.
NK is just the middle finger of Chinese body, with no existence without China


For a totalitarian regime cut off world , they can easily hide what they don't want to show and just show what they would like others to believe , Nation can have formidable MIC but can still be poor in other areas.

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Postby NRao » 03 Sep 2017 20:22

Nuclear test in North Korea: Live update

NPR expert states it could be a thermo.

6.0 earthquake, felt all across.

Fun times.

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Postby sudeepj » 03 Sep 2017 21:48

Gyan wrote:
Gerard wrote:They received bicycle manufacturing technology from China a few years ago. It was noted on the forum. Since then the advances have been astounding. Off road mobile, cold launched ICBMs, miniaturized TN weapons. They clearly are putting all their resources into this. Regime survival.


They won't be able to even maintain machines if given free. In any case Missile & nuke manufactering requires a whole eco system & industrial Base. Right from labs to bearings, lubricants, propellants, explosives, pyrotechnics, INS, steel, aluminium, copper, industries etc.


There is this notion that making hydrogen bombs is extremely difficult and perhaps even more difficult than manufacturing plain fission atom bombs. But the challenge lies solely in procuring the special materials (enriched U/refined Pu, accurately firing fuses/electronics, Deuterium/Tritium, enriched Lithium if you want to go fancy, some beryllium and polonium). Once you are past the special material hurdle, almost any state will have the capability to manufacture a simple and reliable multistage weapon, as NK has now done.

This notion is promoted by non-proliferation-ayatollahs, to discourage other states from pursuing nuclear weapons and to reassure their own populations that there is 'some special sauce' that goes into multistage weapons. There really isnt! There is no special secret, the only secret there is, is the phrase 'multi stage weapon'. Once this intellectual property, of radiation implosions and putting a second implosion pit next to another is out, any state with the motivation, the materials and the capability of making plain fission weapons can build one, especially if they arent focused on making the devices so compact that a single reasonably sized missile can take many of them. A single 2MT warhead weighing 1 to 1.5 tonnes is achievable by any state with access to the special materials.

I encourage you to read the accounts of the early nuke weaponeers in the US and this really shows through their writings.

Lastly, there is the question of yield. The last test by NK was supposed to be 15-25KT, and measured 5.3 on the richter scale. This one measures 6.3 on the richter, therefore its a yield 30 times greater. This is around 450 to 750KT. There is no doubt, that this weapons is a hydrogen bomb.

Lastly, there is this notion, promoted by some 'know it alls', that 'they are all atim bums' any way and that there is no difference between a fission weapon with a few tens of KT yield and a city buster with hundreds of KT or a few MT yield. This too, cant be further from truth. In the hands of a totalitarian regime, a MT weapon is truly a weapon of annihilation and can be used to commit genocide on an entire nation within 30 minutes.

This test is terrible news for humanity, and with grave security implications for all democracies threatened by this arc of totalitarianism - China, Pakistan and North Korea. We must respond.

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Postby sudeepj » 03 Sep 2017 21:59

To add to the last post, in some ways, once you have the special materials, making a hydrogen bomb/multistage radiation imploded weapon is easier than making an atom bomb. This is because the radiation implosion does not rely on 'engineered' behavior, such as accurate machining or high speed electronics or accurate fuses.. It relies on physics and the physical properties of materials.

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Postby ramdas » 03 Sep 2017 22:15

Indeed, NoKo have tested a H-bomb with a several 100 kt yield successfully. Those in India advocating minimal deterrence, or things like a few 20 kt are enough deterrence, etc. are doing a criminal disservice to the cause of national security by encouraging complacency. SoKo is already paying a steep price for choosing prosperity over mil. power. They have to live under NoKo hegemony or be tied as a non nuclear power to the U.S umbrella with severe restrictions on how they can respond to any provocations by NoKo.

One has to assume that TSP has this warhead or will have it very soon. This would give TSP escalation dominance in the nuclear realm unless we respond with open ended thermonuclear testing to redress this imbalance. Such dominance would put us in a situation where we accept gandhian principles and make peace with TSP on TSP's terms, which means a slow and sure death of our civilization under relentless islamization, or stand up to TSP and get cursed by superior might.

Even a 80-90% reduction in GDP due to sanctions is a price worth paying to avoid being under the shadow of nuclear dominance by TSP. It is a different matter that such a price won't have to be paid. The most that will happen is a halt to economic growth for a few years- 10-15 at most.

Not resuming thermonuclear testing ASAP till we have a credible proven warhead of several hundred kt yield would be a criminal decision by the powers that be. Unfortunately, R-Chidambaram continues to stick like a leech to his position of PSA to GoI. Hope GoI makes the right choice nevertheless- something which should have been done years ago.

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Postby ramdas » 03 Sep 2017 22:18

@sudeepj: It seems R Chidambaram managed to goof up the TN test despite having the materials with him. This worthy still stays on as PSA to the PM past the age of 80 years giving platitudes like the adequacy of computer simulations for deterrence.


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