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"Good Haqqani" Makes A Pitch For His Book On Paki Mullahs And Paki Military :D

Pakistan caught between mosque and military, again
Husain Haqqani 26 November, 2017
Army chief General Qamar Bajwa seems to be against the military’s direct intervention in politics but Khadim Rizvi and his cohorts have been making insinuations that the general might not belong to the right sect. The Ahmedi card :mrgreen:
If the history of Pakistan was made into a movie, one scene would be repeated several times albeit with a new cast of characters each time: fanatics rioting in streets over some religious issue, civilian leaders attempting to alternately appease and suppress them only to discover that the situation cannot be resolved without military intervention, and the military being portrayed by its ubiquitous supporters as the country’s only saviour. As repeated ad nauseam, this is an army, which has a country instead of the other way around !
The recent troubles began when some three thousand supporters of a firebrand cleric, “many armed with sticks and iron rods,” according to wire service reports, blocked the main entrance to Islamabad since November 6. Led by Khadim Hussain Rizvi, the colourful leader of the Sunni extremist Tehreek-e-Labaik Pakistan (TLP), the protestors demanded strict adherence to Pakistan’s blasphemy laws and stricter laws against other religious sects.
A sit-in by three thousand people in a country with a population of 210 million should not be a serious threat either to law and order or to the stability of the government. But Pakistan is, and has always has been different from the rest of the world.
Rizvi, who laces his speeches with four-letter words and choicest Punjabi language abuses, is the self-appointed guardian of the ‘Prophet’s honour.’ He is also the latest Pakistani religious-political leader to rail against Hindu and Jewish agents in addition to speaking about fighting alongside the Pakistan army for Islam and Pakistan. He is the perfect candidate for mainstreaming in Paki politics :mrgreen:
Rizvi’s followers were responsible for the murder of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer who was murdered by his own bodyguard in January 2011 for suggesting that Pakistanis debate their blasphemy laws. He is one of many Sunni Barelvi clerics that were built up by Pakistan’s military-intelligence complex under the Musharraf dictatorship, and in the years since, as potentially moderate alternatives to Deobandi and Wahabi clerics who had been supported by the Pakistani state under General Ziaul Haq and during the 1990s. A shade "less green" than Maulana Diesel :roll:
The timing of Rizvi’s relatively small sit-in with larger consequences is interesting. It came after the disqualification of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, his re-election as leader of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-N, and the rejection by parliament of a bill that would have made it unlawful for political parties to be headed by someone disqualified to be a member of parliament.
Rizvi called the protests over changes to electoral laws, which he claimed unacceptably altered the language of the oath for lawmakers declaring Prophet Muhammad as God’s final prophet. The original language was restored and the government said it was a clerical error any way but that was not enough to calm Rizvi’s blood thirsty followers from threatening violence.
Author Herbert Feldman had written at the end of Field Marshal Ayub Khan’s ten-year dictatorship of a sad fact of political life in Pakistan. Ayub had handed power over to his successor as army commander, General Yahya Khan, at the end of five months of rioting. In Pakistan, Feldman wrote, there was a widespread feeling that “whenever it was felt in General Headquarters that things were not going according to the taste and opinion of senior officers, the armed forces (in effect the army alone) would move in or contrive to do so”.
Army chief General Qamar Bajwa seems to be against the military’s direct intervention in politics but Rizvi and his cohorts have been making insinuations (totally unjustified) that the general might not belong to the right sect. He would have to be careful in tackling the situation in an emotionally charged environment wherein his own faith is under question. This opinion piece was written prior to the Law Minister's resignation !
For those who wish to understand the broader nexus between the mullahs and ambitious military officers, I have already written the book ‘Pakistan Between Mosque and Military.’ It seems that I might have to add a new chapter to the book, which was only updated a year ago. :D
PS: Haqqani should wait !. More chapters than this alone would need to be added to his book !!
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Fouad Ziaa‏ @ziaafouad
Replying to @TarekFatah

Tehreek Labbaik Ya Rasullah which has created havoc in Pakistan right now, has had flyers for monetary support distributed in mosque in Springfield VA. Not sure if authorities have noticed. Please help us spreading word. Claimed to be tax free deductions
9:09 AM - 26 Nov 2017

Home Security Dept and Tax Man IRS should take due note , if the above is confirmed :twisted:
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Pakistan’s Delegation meets with UK MPs to advocate against WBO’s ongoing #FreeBalochistan Campaign
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In the past days, a delegation from Pakistan has engaged in talks with Members of the UK Parliament with a delegation of 12 representing the provincial government, among whom 2 Baloch individuals who have never spoken out for human rights in the region. The delegation, with no legitimacy to represent the Baloch people and their struggle for peace and freedom, has stated that “British Land shall not be used against Pakistan”, according to reports on the media, a clear reference to the World Baloch Organisation’s #FreeBalochistan campaign in London. Pakistan’s actions reveal how frightened the government is that the world discovers the truth about the situation in Balochistan.
One of the Baloch individuals who took part in the delegation is Mr Asim Gailu Kurd, well-known in Pakistan for accusations related to drugs and arms trafficking – by no means a representative of the peaceful and lawful struggle of the Baloch people for their human rights. The other one is Mr Abdul Malik Baloch, who was Chief Minister of Balochistan from 2013 to 2015. At the end of his mandate, the Pakistani media itself pointed to his failure to address the core issues of the region – including the frequent killings and disappearances and the dialogue with leaders of the Baloch nationalist movement. His election to the post of Chief Minister in 2013 happened with 4,500 votes from a population of almost half a million, since the Baloch population largely boycotted the votes as a protest against Islamabad’s institutions.
Another good example of the lack of political representation of the secular and progressive Baloch people is that the Deputy speaker of the Provincial Assembly of Balochistan, Abdul Quddus Bizenjo, nominated by the Pakistan Muslim League-Q, was elected with only 544 votes out of 121,000. Later, no more than 26 were certified by local bodies. Apart from Islamabad’s rule being imposed on regional institutions, Balochistan accounts for only 17 of a total of 342 parliamentary seats in the National Assembly of Pakistan, giving the Baloch limited legislative influence in the national sphere. Leave aside, "limited legislative influence", Pakistan has "sold" the port of Gawadar to the Chinese !
The #FreeBalochistan is a human rights awareness campaign focusing on the dire situation of the Baloch people and urging for the end of killings, torture and enforced disappearances by the Pakistani military in Balochistan. The campaign is based on adverts placed around the city of London, attracting the interest of pedestrians and drivers to this long-forgotten issue that requires urgent attention from the international community. WBO has faced strong opposition from the government of Pakistan, which ruled the campaign “malicious”, “anti-Pakistan” and “an attack to the territorial integrity of Pakistan”. Sooner or later, the "lid" will burst open and the plan to suppress this campaign will backfire !
As a result of pressure from Pakistani authorities, Transport for London has ordered the removal of all adverts of the #FreeBalochistan campaign which had been displayed on taxis in London. Claiming that WBO’s adverts are not in accordance with the company’s advertising policy, TfL has made the discriminatory and unfair decision to ban the adverts. However, the campaign is still ongoing and WBO has released a new video of the mobile awareness campaign run across the city of London as part of the #FreeBalochistan campaign. Good for them !
The video can be found here. The campaign highlighted human rights abuses in Balochistan and the worsening of the situation due to the implementation of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), displaying billboards in emblematic locations to the Baloch struggle, such as the Pakistani and Chinese embassies in London.
WBO is dedicated to making the voices of the Baloch heard around the world, urging the international community to stand up against the violence suffered by the people of Balochistan, an issue largely marginalised in the media but well reported by prominent organisations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch. WBO will continue to speak out for human rights and freedom of expression regardless of the constant attempts by the Pakistani government to suppress the voices of those who suffer in Balochistan.
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Falijee wrote:Pakistan Saudi coalition ToRs allow Pakistan to decide its role
Riyadh suggested that it would be up to the member states to decide the extent of their participation in the coalition, something that would provide enough room to Pakistan to maintain a delicate balance in its ties — both with Saudi Arabia and Iran.
The way it will pan out will be along these lines: the war of words between KSA and Iran would finally escalate when KSA would attack Iran under the pretext of Iran-backed Hezbollah instigating terrorist attacks within the Kingdom using the Shi'a population; it could well be a stage-managed attack probably in one or both of the Holy cities (the 1979 siege of Makkah was initially blamed on the Iranians); KSA's attack and false accusations would invite a counter attack from Iran; now, Pakistan had always said that whenever the territorial integrity of the Holy land of KSA was threatened, the PA would come to its rescue. So, for some time now, Pakistan could maintain a 'delicate balance', but if things escalate at the same rate, Pakistan would be drawn into it. Here, the point to note is that the Saudis had, in Muslim minds, cleverly enlarged the scope of the Holy Land all the way from Hejaz on the west to Al-Ahsa in the east, thus protecting themselves.

PS: India has to be wary of the spillover.
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Falijee wrote:Fouad Ziaa‏ @ziaafouad
Replying to @TarekFatah

Tehreek Labbaik Ya Rasullah which has created havoc in Pakistan right now, has had flyers for monetary support distributed in mosque in Springfield VA. Not sure if authorities have noticed. Please help us spreading word. Claimed to be tax free deductions
9:09 AM - 26 Nov 2017

Home Security Dept and Tax Man IRS should take due note , if the above is confirmed :twisted:

https://twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/9 ... 0248498176
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Brian Cloughley’s history of the (Paki) Army
by Ahmad Faruqui
Colonel Cloughley ...In addition to serving in the British and Australian armies, he spent eight years in Pakistan, first as deputy head of the UN Mission in Kashmir and then as the Australian defence attaché.
Cloughley describes the army’s performance in the major wars of 1947-48, 1965 and 1971 in great detail.
In the first war, the army was in an underdeveloped stage, as it had just been created. The tribesman made some headway and just when Srinagar seemed within their reach, they busied themselves with the ugly business of rape and pillage.
In the second war, Pakistanis infiltrators entered Indian Kashmir but they were inadequately trained and had only the “haziest notion of what they were to undertake.” Even though they had been sent to fight a protracted guerrilla war, “they were in poor physical condition.” Unsurprisingly, some were captured and “revealed much information to their Indian captors when, as was inevitable, most of their efforts failed.”
Cloughley says that Pakistan thought India would not respond to its incursion into Kashmir with a response along the international border. That was a major blunder. When Lahore was attached, Pakistan launched its First Armoured Division in a counter-attack but the tanks drove into “a well-constructed trap. Indian tank-hunters inflicted heavy punishment, and the flooded area of the Rohi Nala prevented many of the heavy (M-47/48) Patton tanks from moving forward… Tank commanders … exposed their heads and shoulders above the turrets of their tanks. Many, of course, were killed.” He says the war was lost due to poor coordination between infantry and armoured divisions and “lack of press-on spirit in commanders, poor communications, shockingly bad command at the highest levels, and indifferent logistical planning.”
What happened in 1971 was far worse and almost unimaginable.that campaign “was a disaster for Pakistan. Poor planning; indecision about deployment; hasty and countermanded regrouping; inadequate or even non-existent coordination between formations; inability to seize the moment for exploitation; lack of cooperation between GHQ and air HQ; bungling of movement control procedures — the list of failures is long.” He notes that nothing had been “done in the years 1965-71 to hone the skills of the Pakistan Army.”
What will be the future of the army? Perhaps that is best summed by a quote in the book attributed to the director-general of ISPR: “The needs of the Army will be determined by the Army itself.”
https://dailytimes.com.pk/148392/brian- ... tory-army/
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I am glad India is helping..
Pakistan Army has lost as many young officers along the Western border this year as it lost in 2002 to accidents and shelling from India. from...
Pakistan’s own terror brew killing its young army officers, not India

>>>> The map below is shown incorrectly ... the border is depicted incorrectly .. <<<<
In 2002 this was the story...
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In 2017 ..
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The Pakistan Army has been fast losing its young officers to homegrown terror on the Western border, replacing operations on the Indian side as the primary cause for casualties.

In what is now a continuing pattern, a series of recent encounters in which young officers – from newly commissioned lieutenants to combat experienced majors – have fallen took place on the restive western frontier.

The latest was 28-year-old Major Ishaq, who died in Dera Ismail Khan on Wednesday, days after Captain Junaid Hafeez lost his life to a cross-border attack by terrorists from Afghanistan. A total of 11 young officers of the Pakistani Army have died in such operations this year, according to official data with the Pakistani Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR).

(A collage of photos of Pakistan Army soldiers who died in 2017 === at https://64c5f.https.cdn.softlayer.net/8 ... 24x683.jpg
Some of the officers of the Pakistan Army who have been killed in 2017 are shown above...

In sharp contrast, a comparison of casualties of young officers before home-grown terror became a problem for Pakistan shows that most of its losses were on the India border. Official Pakistani Army data on casualties accessed by ThePrint shows that in 2002 also, 11 young officers were killed during service.

However, most of these were attributed to either shelling from India or accidents in difficult areas like the Siachen Glacier and other mountainous border posts. Three captains and a major are listed as having being killed due to `snow slides’ while a captain died after falling down from a mountain. Yet another captain died due to dehydration at a high altitude post.
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anupmisra wrote:Brian Cloughley’s history of the (Paki) Army
by Ahmad Faruqui
Of course, we know the Paki-pasand Cloughley well through his various articles!! What stands out, from the excerpts posted above, is that it was all because of poor Paki planning, coordination et al only and got nothing at all to do with the Indian Army, its tactics, its skills, its bravery, its superiority etc. Every war ended up with increasing margins of defeat for the PA, which means according to Cloughley, that the PA was simply sliding in skills every time.
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Firms should resist investing in PoK: Seoul - Soumya Pillai, The Hindu
The South Korean government will warn companies planning to invest in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), South Korea’s Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs, Cho Hyun, said on Monday.

“We have sent out a clear message that these companies must resist investing in the PoK. I was in Delhi at the time and I had told our government to be careful,” said Mr. Cho.

South Korea’s Daelim had showed interest in the Chakothi Hattian hydropower project in Muzaffarabad. It is now reconsidering its decision.
Organisations like Asian Development Bank and Korea Exim Bank have in the past refused to finance projects in territory claimed by India.
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Hafiz Saeed petitions UN to remove his name from terror list - ToI

It would be interesting to watch China's position on this as China blocked Hafiz's inclusion also in the 1267 list a couple of times before agreeing.
Mumbai terror attack mastermind and Jamaat-ud-Dawah chief Hafiz Saeed has petitioned the United Nations to get his name struck off the list of terrorists proscribed by the world body, Times Now reported on Tuesday.

Saeed was designated a terrorist by the UN under UNSCR 1267 (UN Security Council Resolution) in December 2008 following the November 2008 attack in Mumbai.

In fact, the US had named him a specially designated global terrorist much earlier, in May 2008.

The Mumbai terror attack had led the US to also announce a $10 million bounty for Saeed. The JuD is believed to be the front of the banned Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was responsible for the 26/11 attack.

Saeed's petition comes on the heels of his release from house arrest in Pakistan.

Saeed last week walked free, after a judicial body in the neighbouring country refused to extend his detention and ordered his release citing "insufficient evidence."

Moments after his release, he said he will gather people across Pakistan for the "cause of Kashmir" and help Kashmiris secure "freedom".

India had expressed outrage when news about Saeed's imminent release broke, and had termed it an attempt by Pakistan to "mainstream" terrorists.
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SSridhar wrote:PS: India has to be wary of the spillover.
Either way there will be spill over., that is the darker lining in the silver cloud for India. It will be interesting to see the spill over in Turkey.

The global ummah had to be drawn into the larger shia-sunni schism and it will be interesting to see how it pans out. If it leads to the destruction of the global ummah - that is the silver cloud.

West will actually encourage this., earlier it was a play for Oil/Energy., but the changes going on in Oil (Russia is a non-member member of OPEC!) and US producing as much as Barbaria., the global need of energy can be fulfilled out of non-OPEC countries.

Now it is protecting the trade routes and control of choke points that will impact global trade. Other than that., nobody has any interest in what the ummah does among themselves and in fact will be happy to help if they sink into a black hole and the rest of the world can make money out of it.

Barbaria going against Iran with borrowed mercenaries will boomerang badly on Barbaria., since Bakis are easily bought and sold.
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Looks like the momeens were well prepared for their protest. They even brought with them their 'Torture tent'..

Paki Bolismards were at the receiving end.

Policemen abducted, tortured and dumped

Also this..

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DG of Rangers handing out monies to the protestors to head home.. Better burn some Christian, Hindu or Ahmadi residence in some far away place than Slumabad.. hain ji?

Also, some ISI guy is the Guarantor for the deal brokered between Govt and Momeens (by the PA of course). The list of point agreed to by the Paki govt is utterly shameful. The entire cabinet should commit soosai due to the sheer amount of humiliation heaped on them...
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^
If the army is with the Islamists as the guy in the picture claims (he says in the video we are with you onlee or something) then bhy phor he needs security while distributing checks, hain?

1) Is the army really in control of these yahoos?
2) Is a faction within the army establishment completely radicalized and in sync with these Islamists and relatively saner faction fears them as much as the civilians?

I guess it's only downhill from here for Pakistan. Time to grab popcorn.
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Karachi_Post Retweeted
Nusrat Javeed‏ @javeednusrat
Nov 26

After landing in Pakistan on Dec 3, General Mattis must approach Allama Khadim Rizvi Sahib to seek help for dealing with Haqqani Network.
61 replies 393 retweets 1,027 likes

PS. Hit below the belt :roll:

Father of Nobel Prize Winner , Malala pitches in with his two paisa... :D

Karachi_Post Retweeted
Ziauddin Yousafzai‏Verified account @ZiauddinY
Nov 26

#IslamabadDherna is literally #IslamBarbaadDherna. They are defaming Islam and harming Pakistan. What Maulana Sufi Muhamad & Fazlullah did to Swat, Mullah Khadim Rizvi is doing to the whole country. Democracies fail when they try to appease few bigots.

PS: He has been labelled as a "western agent" in his homeland of Pakiland !
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SSridhar wrote:
PS: India has to be wary of the spillover.
Would it be possible for you to elaborate on how a 'spillover' would manifest itself? In my limited understanding, I think you may be referring to a sunni shia friction in India would I be correct? Thank you.
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Mere Suspicion Of Being An Ahmedi Can Make You Terminated In Pakiland ( unless you are COAS :D )

Teacher allegedly terminated for being Ahmadi approaches high court
The Lahore High Court issued on Monday a notice to the Punjab secretary of the school education department on a petition by a teacher allegedly terminated for being an Ahmadi.Shaukat Rauf contended that he had been terminated without being given an opportunity of defence merely on a complaint lodged by a fellow teacher. The petitioner said he was a true Muslim having firm believe in finality of prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) and had PhD degree in Islamiat. :shock: Hope not from Axact University !. He pleaded that his point of view was not heard by the authorities in a departmental inquiry, which was in sheer violation of fundamental right of fair trial.He said the court had directed the respondent secretary to decide his departmental appeal against the termination but the order had not been complied.
The petitioner said the secretary committed contempt of court by not implementing the order and was liable to be punished under the relevant law. This is similar to the blasphemy laws of Pakiland , which have been used ( against minorities ) to settle past "personal scores " !
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Khadim Rizvi - the new "Hafiz - Suar" :roll:

Karachi_Post‏ @Karachi_Post
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‘Much more’ agreed with govt than public knows - Khadim Rizvi
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Victim of Honor Killing Buried In Krachi !!!

Karachi_Post Retweeted
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Karachi: Boy, girl killed and buried on Jirga orders http://bit.ly/2ACuhjh



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Editorial In Yawn Blasts "State Of Pakistan" :mrgreen:

Capitulation
IT is a surrender so abject that the mind is numb and the heart sinks. The deal negotiated between the state, both civilian and military facets of it, and the Faizabad protesters is a devastating blow to the legitimacy and moral standing of the government and all state institutions.In one brief page and six gut-wrenching points, the state of Pakistan has surrendered its authority to a mob that threatened to engulf the country in flames. The federal law minister has been sacked — in return for a promise by the protesters to not issue a fatwa against him.
Zealots had already demonstrated the power of mob violence and the strength of the politics of intolerance and hate. Now, a blueprint has been created for holding state and society hostage. Despair is not an option for a nation state, but neither can there be a pretence that a significant setback has not occurred. Is there anyone, in state or society, to help repair the damage?
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While the skummabad high court admonished the paki goberment and the TSPA for their respective roles in caving in to the jihadists, LaWhore high court does the exact opposite. The pakjabi judges have nothing but praises for the men in browned khakis. Battle of the courts?

Army saved country from a huge catastrophe: LHC on military's role in Faizabad agreement
Justice Qazi Mohammad Amin Ahmad of the Lahore High Court (LHC) on Tuesday praised the army for its efforts in defusing the situation in Faizabad, a day after Justice Shaukat Aziz Siddiqui lashed out at the military's role as the mediator between the protesters and the government.
"Everyone knows that the army has saved the country from a huge catastrophe," Justice Ahmad remarked
Numerous people would have been killed had the army not played a role, added the judge. (evidently the hon justice forgot whose real job it was to prevent the killings in the first place)
Someone is positioning himself for a bigger role when the army formally tales over. Watch this space.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1373387/army- ... -agreement
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List of demands put forward by TLY and accepted by govt for ending the Faizabad protest
It all points to total capitulation of the elected government in front of the religious bigots. Supposedly limited to six demands (all that were met), there are other demands that are also being met.

1. Remove Federal Law Minister Zahid Hamid from his position immediately. "Tehreek-i-Labaik will issue no fatwa [religious decree] of any kind against him."

2. The report prepared by Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee will be made public within 30 days and whoever is named in the report for being responsible for the change in the election oath will be acted against under the law.

3. All protesters arrested between November 6 until the end of the sit-in from across the country will be released within one to three days according to legal requirements. The cases registered against them and the house arrests imposed on them will be ended.

4. An inquiry board will be established to probe and decide what action to take against the government and administration officials over the operation conducted by security forces against protesters on Saturday, November 25. The inquiry should be completed within 30 days and action will be taken against those found responsible.

5. The federal and provincial governments will determine and compensate for the loss of government and private assets incurred from November 6 until the end of the sit-in.

6. The points already agreed to concerning the Government of Punjab will be fully implemented.

'More demands have been accepted'
According to Rizvi, in addition to the demands mentioned on the document, the following conditions of TLY have also been accepted by the government:

7. A board of clerics led by Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri will be set up to probe remarks made by Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah against the persecution of Ahmedis. Sanaullah will have to accept the decision made by the board.

8. No difficulty will be faced in registering cases under clause 295-C of the Pakistan Penal Code (blasphemy law).

9. No leniency will be given to those convicted by courts for blasphemy.

10. No ban will be imposed on the use of loudspeakers.

11. The foreign and interior ministries will take steps for the release of Dr Aafia Siddiqui after taking her mother and sister in confidence.

12. The holiday of Iqbal Day on November 9 will be revived.

13. Two representatives of Tehreek-i-Labaik will be included in the panel assigned to decide changes in the textbook board. The officials will push for inclusion of translation of the Holy Quran and chapters about Seerat-un-Nabi (PBUH) and Muslim leaders.

14. The chehlum of martyrs will be held on January 4 at Rawalpindi's Liaquat Bagh.

15. Every year, November 25 will be observed as "Martyrs of Prophet's honour day".

AoA. The takeover is now complete. Minorities including shias and ahmedis better take cover.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1373197/list- ... ad-protest
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Falijee wrote: Teacher allegedly terminated for being Ahmadi approaches high court
The Lahore High Court issued on Monday a notice to the Punjab secretary of the school education department on a petition by a teacher allegedly terminated for being an Ahmadi.Shaukat Rauf contended that he had been terminated without being given an opportunity of defence merely on a complaint lodged by a fellow teacher. The petitioner said he was a true Muslim having firm believe in finality of prophethood of Muhammad (PBUH) and had PhD degree in Islamiat. :shock: Hope not from Axact University !...
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Is a PhD in Islamiat even halal? Prophet word is final, so what kind of original work can be done over and above that? Off with his head, I say.
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Some Choice Reactions To The Exciting News Of " Preparation Of Ahmedi Data Base By The Isloo Federal Authorities"

Preparation of database of all Ahmadis working in Federal Govt. has begun. :D

PS: Goebbels and Hitler will be pleased !
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Class / Caste System Permissible In Pakiland :roll:

A few miles before entering the Packages Mall, a family encountered this car who had apparently made his Maid (13-14 yrs old girl) sit in the car’s trunk. As visible in the pictures, she was balancing it with her hand, for letting the air in, but as they approached the check point, the guard saw her, and (without inquiring the driver as to why the maid was sitting in the boot when there was enough space inside the car), he laughed. That single laugh made her so embarrassed that she closed the boot completely. The car still didn’t stop and kept on moving. In a status they wrote a message for the car owner that just because you have all this wealth now doesn’t give you the right to exploit the honor of your servants/maids. Tables can turn at any time and if, God forbid there comes a time on your family, when your own daughter have to work for others to earn a few pennies, I certainly think you wouldn’t want her in your maid’s place. If you, being wealthy enough, to educate yourself and your children, in expensive schools, remain unaware of the basic civic rights then I am sorry there’s nothing that differentiates you and an illiterate person.

( Sorry! Unable to "post pictures" due to technical difficulties !!) :D
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anupmisra wrote:List of demands put forward by TLY and accepted by govt for ending the Faizabad protest
It all points to total capitulation of the elected government in front of the religious bigots. Supposedly limited to six demands (all that were met), there are other demands that are also being met.
Wow.

I am amazed that whatever the redoubtable Maulana Abu ala Al-Mawdudi, the greatest Islamist thinker of the previous century, could not achieve in three decades, the wheelchair-bound (nothing derogatory here) Khadim Rizvi and his rag-tag & part time protestors have achieved in three weeks. Complete and unequivocal surrender.

Now, we have to wait and watch if that Islamabad High Court Judge lives to tell the tale.

PS: This Khaqakhan Abbasi guy resembles an ex-editor of the famous 'National' newspaper from South India. Is it only me?
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Ganja Now Being Accused Of Instigating A Civil War By His Political Opponent :roll:

Army foiled Nawaz Sharif’s plan for civil war: Ch Shujaat
Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid (PML-Q) President and former prime minister Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain and senior central leader and former deputy prime minister Ch Pervaiz Elahi have said that the army foiled Nawaz Sharif’s plan for a civil war.
PS: When it rains , it pours !!! :D
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SSridhar wrote:PS: This Khaqakhan Abbasi guy resembles an ex-editor of the famous 'National' newspaper from South India. Is it only me?
did a google images..yes in some angles looks like long lost twin :D
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Karachi Honour Killing Makes It To Massaland Media !

Pakistan: Relatives kill newlyweds for free-will marriage
Associated Press


The "one and only" "Islami Atomi Takat" is making all sorts of news for the wrong reasons :mrgreen:
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anupmisra wrote:List of demands put forward by TLY and accepted by govt for ending the Faizabad protest
It all points to total capitulation of the elected government in front of the religious bigots...........

2. The report prepared by Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee will be made public within 30 days and whoever is named in the report for being responsible for the change in the election oath will be acted against under the law..............


Who wants to play musical chairs, loser gets halaled?
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SSridhar wrote:Of course, we know the Paki-pasand Cloughley well through his various articles!! What stands out, from the excerpts posted above, is that it was all because of poor Paki planning, coordination et al only and got nothing at all to do with the Indian Army, its tactics, its skills, its bravery, its superiority etc. Every war ended up with increasing margins of defeat for the PA, which means according to Cloughley, that the PA was simply sliding in skills every time.
Cloughless! now i remember this name. back from the 2003s and 04s when this guy used to push a lot of pro pak army articles.

him and that marogolis guy.
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Any interesting Chinese reactions?
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Gus wrote:
SSridhar wrote:PS: This Khaqakhan Abbasi guy resembles an ex-editor of the famous 'National' newspaper from South India. Is it only me?
did a google images..yes in some angles looks like long lost twin :D
Gus, thanks for the confirmation. I was worried whether long years of exposure to Paranodistan has also made me paranoid!
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A_Gupta wrote:Any interesting Chinese reactions?
A_Gupta, Gen. Bajwa would have suitably informed the Chinese Ambassador that TLY supports CPEC and would be a good future partner.

That reminds me of the op-ed in The Hindu yesterday (where else) where a JNU 'Disarmament' Professor said that strait-laced Indians are mistaking China's support to Masood Azhar and as Chinese presence in Terroristan increases, it would see reason at some time !! :twisted: We should give it some slack, says he.
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SSridhar wrote:
PS: This Khaqakhan Abbasi guy resembles an ex-editor of the famous 'National' newspaper from South India. Is it only me?
Thank you! Finally that nagging ' I've seen him somewhere' brain itch has been scratched..

I vividly remember the explicit, multi-lingual, gaali filled send-off he received on Twitter, when he announced his departure..
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Gus wrote:Cloughless! now i remember this name. back from the 2003s and 04s . . .
Yeah, and much before him was another Paki-pasand Aussie guy whose name also started with a 'C', Maj. Cawthorne.

But, the biggest 'C' was Caroe but he was a Brit.

All of them tried to damage India.
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Rizvi’s followers were responsible for the murder of Punjab Governor Salman Taseer who was murdered by his own bodyguard in January 2011 for suggesting that Pakistanis debate their blasphemy laws. He is one of many Sunni Barelvi clerics that were built up by Pakistan’s military-intelligence complex under the Musharraf dictatorship, and in the years since, as potentially moderate alternatives to Deobandi and Wahabi clerics who had been supported by the Pakistani state under General Ziaul Haq and during the 1990s.
This is battle between Sunnis of two variety (Barelvis and Wahabis)

Barelvis look up to prophet like a Hero and worship him. Wahabis do not worship prophet calling it "shirk" "blasphemy" and had even destroyed the historic places to discourage people for paying homage.

So! Government of Bakistan and their army supports Wahabis., while the majority of the people of Bakistan support Barelvis of this Khadim type! Interesting times ahead.
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anupmisra wrote:List of demands put forward by TLY and accepted by govt for ending the Faizabad protest
It all points to total capitulation of the elected government in front of the religious bigots. Supposedly limited to six demands (all that were met), there are other demands that are also being met.

1. Remove Federal Law Minister Zahid Hamid from his position immediately. "Tehreek-i-Labaik will issue no fatwa [religious decree] of any kind against him."

2. The report prepared by Raja Zafarul Haq-led committee will be made public within 30 days and whoever is named in the report for being responsible for the change in the election oath will be acted against under the law.

3. All protesters arrested between November 6 until the end of the sit-in from across the country will be released within one to three days according to legal requirements. The cases registered against them and the house arrests imposed on them will be ended.

4. An inquiry board will be established to probe and decide what action to take against the government and administration officials over the operation conducted by security forces against protesters on Saturday, November 25. The inquiry should be completed within 30 days and action will be taken against those found responsible.

5. The federal and provincial governments will determine and compensate for the loss of government and private assets incurred from November 6 until the end of the sit-in.

6. The points already agreed to concerning the Government of Punjab will be fully implemented.

'More demands have been accepted'
According to Rizvi, in addition to the demands mentioned on the document, the following conditions of TLY have also been accepted by the government:

7. A board of clerics led by Pir Muhammad Afzal Qadri will be set up to probe remarks made by Punjab Law Minister Rana Sanaullah against the persecution of Ahmedis. Sanaullah will have to accept the decision made by the board.

8. No difficulty will be faced in registering cases under clause 295-C of the Pakistan Penal Code (blasphemy law).

9. No leniency will be given to those convicted by courts for blasphemy.

10. No ban will be imposed on the use of loudspeakers.

11. The foreign and interior ministries will take steps for the release of Dr Aafia Siddiqui after taking her mother and sister in confidence.

12. The holiday of Iqbal Day on November 9 will be revived.

13. Two representatives of Tehreek-i-Labaik will be included in the panel assigned to decide changes in the textbook board. The officials will push for inclusion of translation of the Holy Quran and chapters about Seerat-un-Nabi (PBUH) and Muslim leaders.

14. The chehlum of martyrs will be held on January 4 at Rawalpindi's Liaquat Bagh.

15. Every year, November 25 will be observed as "Martyrs of Prophet's honour day".

AoA. The takeover is now complete. Minorities including shias and ahmedis better take cover.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1373197/list- ... ad-protest

TERRIFIC! Just what Pakistan needed. :rotfl:
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ISI Implicated In Headley Terror Plot For Copenhagen

Pak's Global Terror Plot: ISI Told David Headley To Plan Copenhagen Terror Attack
In 2010, a nefarious terrorist plot which was referred to be "Mumbai style" against Jyllands-Posten, a Danish daily newspaper, was foiled by the Danish and Swedish security agencies. At the time, five suspects were taken into custody and the subsequent investigation had hinted at a Pakistan link to the terror plot. Now, almost seven years since that attack was scuppered, for the first time, Republic TV has uncovered an irrefutable direct link between the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan's premier intelligence agency, and the 2010 Copenhagen terror plot. The ISI's hands were also found in the 9/11 attack through Omar Saeed Sheikh, now "sitting" in a Hyderabad Jail for the murder of Daniel Pearl !
In this super exclusive newsbreak, Republic TV has accessed a series of email correspondence between the ISI and David Headley, the terrorist involved in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, which proves not only the Pakistan link to the Copenhagen terror plot but also ISI's General Pasha involvement in the planning operations. This letter takes the agency involvement in Pakistani terror to plots beyond India and Afghanistan and for the first time brings proof of ISI's direct link to European terror. The target of Jyllands-Posten was purportedly chosen to take revenge from the newspaper for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad in 2005. The code name for the Copenhagen attack was "Mickey Mouse Project" and the attack was averted on 29th December 2010. For those not in the know, Headley was a triple agent - working for LET, working for British Intelligence , working for Massa's Drug Enforcement Dept as well !!!
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SSridhar wrote:Wow.

I am amazed that whatever the redoubtable Maulana Abu ala Al-Mawdudi, the greatest Islamist thinker of the previous century, could not achieve in three decades, the wheelchair-bound (nothing derogatory here) Khadim Rizvi and his rag-tag & part time protestors have achieved in three weeks. Complete and unequivocal surrender. Now, we have to wait and watch if that Islamabad High Court Judge lives to tell the tale.
Maw-Dhoodi was Scholar while this hero Khadim Rizvi is Mauler so He know how to handle Paki. A Lesson for Indians to learn.
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