Spinning it. Is this what they are calling it (a tame surrender) now?
Pakistan go down fighting in first Test against Sri Lanka
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23396 ... -Sri-Lanka
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Yaa,
The rangers are under the Interior Minister.
Todin, they disallowed the Interior Minister from entering court premises and shooed him away
AoA to that! More and more Qaid-e-Azams being made everyday !!!
The rangers are under the Interior Minister.
Todin, they disallowed the Interior Minister from entering court premises and shooed him away
AoA to that! More and more Qaid-e-Azams being made everyday !!!
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Arsenic contamination
CheersA RECENT study published in the Science Advances journal, ‘Extensive arsenic contamination in high-pH unconfined aquifers in the Indus Valley’, has led to widespread concern about the health effects of arsenic in Pakistan’s water supply. The study’s findings have been widely discussed in the media, with some commentators suggesting that it is a national emergency possibly affecting about 50 to 60 million Pakistanis.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Freedom House “Freedom in the World 2017” rating where 0 is worst ie Unfree and 100 is best ie Free:
Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir: 28
Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan excluding Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir: 43
Jammu & Kashmir State: 50
India excluding Jammu & Kashmir State: 77
The citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan enjoy less Freedom than our state of Jammu & Kashmir.
The citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan thus will enjoy greater freedom by joining India though that invitation to join is restricted by me to those in Pakistan Occupied J&K who are suffering under the occupation the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjabi dominated Military as it would be outright dangerous to let other citizens Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan join India and spread Mohammadden Terrorism:
Hover With Pointer For Score
Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir: 28
Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan excluding Pakistan Occupied Jammu & Kashmir: 43
Jammu & Kashmir State: 50
India excluding Jammu & Kashmir State: 77
The citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan enjoy less Freedom than our state of Jammu & Kashmir.
The citizens of the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan thus will enjoy greater freedom by joining India though that invitation to join is restricted by me to those in Pakistan Occupied J&K who are suffering under the occupation the Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Punjabi dominated Military as it would be outright dangerous to let other citizens Mohammadden Terrorist Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan join India and spread Mohammadden Terrorism:
Hover With Pointer For Score
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Pakistan Govt sanctions just 16.7% of annual budget in first quarter for development projects
Barring a few projects of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) and the ones coveted by the ruling party, the overall pace of spending on development schemes remained slow in the first quarter, as the federal government sanctioned Rs169.2 billion or 16.7% of the annual budget.
The ways and means limits prescribed by the finance ministry allow the planning ministry to authorise up to 20% of the total annual spending during the first quarter. While keeping in mind upcoming general elections and the growing requirements of CPEC projects, the federal government has allocated Rs1.001 trillion for Public Sector Development Programme for fiscal year 2017-18.
However, at the start of the new fiscal year, the finance ministry had relaxed the 20% condition for the fast moving projects aimed at facilitating the schemes that the incumbent government wants to complete before the next general elections.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Ganja Dares To Become "More Vocal" . Invokes The "Shame Of Dhaka" 
We learned nothing from the fall of Dhaka, says Nawaz
PS: Is he doing this strictly for the "Mulk" or is he just doing this to salvage his own "Echendee" ( ie "preserve his "fame and FORTUNE )
We learned nothing from the fall of Dhaka, says Nawaz
PS: Is he doing this strictly for the "Mulk" or is he just doing this to salvage his own "Echendee" ( ie "preserve his "fame and FORTUNE )
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
More like a Kaidi Azam if the 'establishment' has it's way.Gagan wrote:Yaa,
The rangers are under the Interior Minister.
Todin, they disallowed the Interior Minister from entering court premises and shooed him away
AoA to that! More and more Qaid-e-Azams being made everyday !!!
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
A Glimpse of how jihadi fever grips the Pakistani society - DT
Growing up in the Jihadist Pakistan of the late 1980s and 1990s had certain advantages that ignorance bestowed upon its adherents. Youth — myself included — carried a very simple worldview that had a promise of an ultimate victory for (Pakistani) Muslims, and a crushing defeat for the non-Muslim world. A large chunk of my generation, and that too coming from lower middle and poor social economic strata, felt extremely charged and motivated to go out, wage Jihad, kill and be killed. Aggression and death were romanticised by whatever form of the publicity was available those days with PTV in the lead.
I clearly recall that Jamaat-e-Islami and other Jihadist organisations would bring Mujahideen from Afghanistan to my little hometown, Malakwal, to motivate the local youth, and probably also as part of a larger narrative building in favor of the State that fought in Afghanistan. Once the Afghan Jihad was ending, the Kashmir Jihad started, and the Jihad Incorporated started bringing to Malakwal Kashmiri Mujahideen. These Mujahideen would address throngs of locals at the erstwhile Railway Chowk, later renamed as Milad Chowk when Gen Zia started his synthetic Islamisation.
I also remember writing to Jamaat-e-Islami in early 1990s along with my paternal cousin Danial to recruit us and take us to Bosnia. We, as youth, wanted to die in glory of the battle, and what better way could be to heavens than dying in the name of Allah in a foreign battlefield where Muslims were persecuted, brutalised and killed? I and Danial were not alone who fell victim to an extremely unhealthy national narrative of militancy that eventually drove Pakistan to where it is now.
A relief that neither I nor Danial went to fight anywhere and survived to live our lives today — but many did. Some returned, some didn’t. The ones who didn’t would have their names written on shabby metallic boards alongside the potholed roads, mostly in the countryside of Punjab where their mothers mourned, fathers wept silently, sisters longed for brothers, and wives stared with empty eyes unsure of their future. As it all happened to poor and lower middle-class families in Pakistan, the official and religious leaders of the Jihad Incorporated had their sons becoming bankers, doctors, actuarialsts, industrialists, stock brokers, and computer engineers. These sons and daughters of the official and religious leaders greatly benefitted from the economy of a falsified Jihad. Ironically, they now make quite a fair part of the ruling elite and lecture lesser human beings about Pakistan.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Sridhar ji, IIRC there was a thread about Pakistanis holding a mirror to themselves. Could you please post the above post in that thread as well.
Edit - Did it myself
Edit - Did it myself
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
PEMRA slaps Rs1m fine on Geo News for ‘institutional corruption’ comments against Pak Army
The country’s top media watchdog has slapped a fine of Rs1 million on Geo News for airing comments against the Pakistan Army.
The decision was taken during the 134th meeting of the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) held at its headquarters in Islamabad on Tuesday.
CheersAccording to a statement, the regulatory authority approved Councils of Complaints (CoCs) Karachi and Lahore recommendations of a fine of Rs1 million on Geo News for airing comments against the armed forces in connection with “institutional corruption” during its TV show Aapas ki Baat on January 9, 17, 24 and 25.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
See how every one is scared of the Fauj.
After Dawn leaks, the Fauj decreed and PEMRA issued a diktat that no TFTA in El-Bakistan write or speak anything against the faujs's Echendee.
PEMRA has never, to my knowledge, issued anything even remotely similar to protect the echendee of the Civilians.
ISPR's goons and retard faujis are on TV every single day, cursing the civilians, nawaz sharif, evil Moodi, doval, india, YYY axis. Recently they are cursing China as well.
After Dawn leaks, the Fauj decreed and PEMRA issued a diktat that no TFTA in El-Bakistan write or speak anything against the faujs's Echendee.
PEMRA has never, to my knowledge, issued anything even remotely similar to protect the echendee of the Civilians.
ISPR's goons and retard faujis are on TV every single day, cursing the civilians, nawaz sharif, evil Moodi, doval, india, YYY axis. Recently they are cursing China as well.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Pakistan's ISI runs its own foreign policy; has connections with terror groups: US - PTI, New Indian Express
Pakistan's intelligence agency ISI has connections with terrorist groups and runs its own foreign policy, a top US General said today.
Pakistan has denied the US' allegations, which could possibly be the strongest indictment of the support that the Pakistan's spy agency provides to terrorist groups. India and Afghanistan have also been time and again charging their neighbour Pakistan with similar allegations.
"I think it's clear to me that the ISI has connections with terrorist groups," General Joseph Dunford, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff told members of the powerful Senate Foreign Relations Committee during a Congressional hearing. He was responding to a question from Senator Joe Donnelly. Donnelly had asked Dunford if he thought the ISI was still helping the Taliban.
Over the past several years, Dunford said, the US has had a bilateral approach to trying to effect a change in Pakistan's behaviour. He, however, added he does not think that there is one thing that would change Pakistan's behaviour. Dunford hoped that a multilateral approach might help in bringing changes in Pakistan's behaviour. The top American general was joined by his Defence Secretary Jim Mattis in slamming the ISI.
"We have seen havens left to the terrorists' own devices. We have seen the government of Pakistan come down on terrorism, while ISI appears to run its own foreign policy," Mattis said acknowledging for the first time in the public domain that ISI runs its own policy and does not seem to be controlled by the federal government.
The strong statements on ISI and Pakistan from top officials of the Trump Administration came hours before the Pakistani Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif landed in Washington on a three-day visit. Asif is scheduled to meet the Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and the National Security Adviser H R McMaster and address the think-tank community at the US Institute of Peace.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Following UN designated Terrorist Hafiz Saeed slapping a defamation notice for being accused of the Un-Mohammadden activity of being wined and dined at the US White House, Foreign Minister of the Mohammadden Terrorism Fomenting Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Khawaja Asif, does a u-turn.
I found the legal notice sent by Saeed's counsel AK Dogar in which he describes his client Saeed as “Islam-loving Muslim following the dictates of the Prophet” to whom “taking wine” “ is abusive language”, amusing
.
Check out the embedded video of the interview of Khawaja Asif by Hamid Mir:
After saying Hafiz Saeed 'wined and dined' at White House, Pakistan's minister makes a U-turn
I found the legal notice sent by Saeed's counsel AK Dogar in which he describes his client Saeed as “Islam-loving Muslim following the dictates of the Prophet” to whom “taking wine” “ is abusive language”, amusing
.Check out the embedded video of the interview of Khawaja Asif by Hamid Mir:
After saying Hafiz Saeed 'wined and dined' at White House, Pakistan's minister makes a U-turn
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Pak Army chief chairs marathon meeting over security issues
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa reviewed the security challenges facing the country, including the situation along the Line of Control, with top commanders during a marathon meeting here, a media report said today.
A special Corps Commanders Conference held yesterday continued for seven hours, according to security officials, the Dawn reported.
But in a rare move, the army's media wing Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) did not issue any official statement following the marathon special meeting of top military commanders, the report said.
The meeting focused on the visit of General Bajwa to Kabul where he met Afghan leadership in order to remove misunderstandings and restore trust, sources were quoted as saying by the report.
The situation at the Line of Control (LoC) and continuous unprovoked firing by Indian security forces was also discussed, it said.
The conference denied to give a befitting response to the firing by Indian troops targeting the civilian population, the report said.
The situation in Kashmir was also discussed and the meeting agreed to continue the diplomatic and political support for the Kashmiris' struggle for their right of self- determination, it said.
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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Army chief General Qamar Javed Bajwa reviewed the security challenges facing the country, including the situation along the Line of Control, with top commanders during a marathon meeting here, a media report said today.
A special Corps Commanders Conference held yesterday continued for seven hours, according to security officials, the Dawn reported.
But in a rare move, the army's media wing Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) did not issue any official statement following the marathon special meeting of top military commanders, the report said.
The meeting focused on the visit of General Bajwa to Kabul where he met Afghan leadership in order to remove misunderstandings and restore trust, sources were quoted as saying by the report.
The situation at the Line of Control (LoC) and continuous unprovoked firing by Indian security forces was also discussed, it said.
The conference denied to give a befitting response to the firing by Indian troops targeting the civilian population, the report said.
The situation in Kashmir was also discussed and the meeting agreed to continue the diplomatic and political support for the Kashmiris' struggle for their right of self- determination, it said.
Cheers
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
US will try to work with Pakistan on terrorism one more time: Mattis
WASHINGTON: Defense Secretary James Mattis Tuesday said that The United States will make another attempt to work with Pakistan on terrorism.
According to details, The United States will try to work with Pakistan on terrorism “one more time”, Defense Secretary James Mattis said.
“We need to try one more time to make this strategy work with Pakistan, by, with and through the Pakistanis, and if our best efforts fail, President Trump is prepared to take whatever steps are necessary," Mattis said at a House Armed Services Committee hearing.
The US relationship with Pakistan has ebbed and flowed over the course of the 16-year war in Afghanistan, getting most tense after Trump's August speech outlining his new strategy for Afghanistan, President Trump said the United States would do more to pressure Pakistan to combat 'terrorist safe havens' in its borders.
Pakistan denies that it provides safe haven to terrorists, said it has launched operations to clear militant groups from the Waziristan border region with Afghanistan.
Mattis said assistant secretaries and national security staff will visit Pakistan to discuss the issue, followed by himself and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
Earlier, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif has arrived in the United States of America on a three-day important visit, where he will hold meetings with his US counterpart Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser Lieutenant General H.R.McMaste and discuss bilateral relations and situation in Afghanistan and Kashmir. The US’s new policy on South Asia will also be discussed.
During his meeting with US counterpart Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser Lieutenant General H.R.McMaste, the minister will focus on resumption of bilateral relations and work out ways to dispel tensions that worsened after US President Donald Trump’s August 21 speech.
Cheers
WASHINGTON: Defense Secretary James Mattis Tuesday said that The United States will make another attempt to work with Pakistan on terrorism.
According to details, The United States will try to work with Pakistan on terrorism “one more time”, Defense Secretary James Mattis said.
“We need to try one more time to make this strategy work with Pakistan, by, with and through the Pakistanis, and if our best efforts fail, President Trump is prepared to take whatever steps are necessary," Mattis said at a House Armed Services Committee hearing.
The US relationship with Pakistan has ebbed and flowed over the course of the 16-year war in Afghanistan, getting most tense after Trump's August speech outlining his new strategy for Afghanistan, President Trump said the United States would do more to pressure Pakistan to combat 'terrorist safe havens' in its borders.
Pakistan denies that it provides safe haven to terrorists, said it has launched operations to clear militant groups from the Waziristan border region with Afghanistan.
Mattis said assistant secretaries and national security staff will visit Pakistan to discuss the issue, followed by himself and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson.
Earlier, Foreign Minister Khawaja Asif has arrived in the United States of America on a three-day important visit, where he will hold meetings with his US counterpart Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser Lieutenant General H.R.McMaste and discuss bilateral relations and situation in Afghanistan and Kashmir. The US’s new policy on South Asia will also be discussed.
During his meeting with US counterpart Rex Tillerson and National Security Adviser Lieutenant General H.R.McMaste, the minister will focus on resumption of bilateral relations and work out ways to dispel tensions that worsened after US President Donald Trump’s August 21 speech.
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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
After 70 Years Of Its Existence Pakistan Is Still Quibbling About Wording Of "Oath To Be Taken"
'Clerical mistake' that effected Khatam-e-Naboowat oath to be fixed: Ayaz Sadiq
'Clerical mistake' that effected Khatam-e-Naboowat oath to be fixed: Ayaz Sadiq
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
This just in!
Honey bee attack at burial leaves 70 injured in Punjab
Honey bee attack at burial leaves 70 injured in Punjab
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23447 ... -in-PunjabAt least 70 were injured after being stung by a swarm of bees at the burial of a woman in Khanewal
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Peregrine wrote:US will try to work with Pakistan on terrorism one more time: Mattis
WASHINGTON: Defense Secretary James Mattis Tuesday said that The United States will make another attempt to work with Pakistan on terrorism.
According to details, The United States will try to work with Pakistan on terrorism “one more time”, Defense Secretary James Mattis said.
“We need to try one more time to make this strategy work with Pakistan, by, with and through the Pakistanis, and if our best efforts fail, President Trump is prepared to take whatever steps are necessary," Mattis said at a House Armed Services Committee hearing.
As expected and predicted.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
For any that believe that there is a difference...
Caution - Yawn link
Footprints: rage against the machine
Caution - Yawn link
Footprints: rage against the machine
“It is not as if people just got up and killed Mashaal,” says Shahab Khattak, one of the lawyers assisting Khan. “People say there is a difference between mainstream and madressah education. There is none: their syllabi and outlook were shaped by the Afghan War. Our electronic media promote extremism and the world powers active in the region want that psyche because it serves them.”
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
I understood it was all hot air, since the cobra deliverers were still on.
It reached couple of days back.. confirming the hotness of the air.
It reached couple of days back.. confirming the hotness of the air.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Yeah, totally expected. Someone took a look at the map of Afghanistan and its environs and suddenly went "oops".
US isn't going to help us fight our battles. The best we can expect from them is to stay out of the way. A bigger bonus would be if they stop subsidizing Terroristan.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
It is our delusion to even think US will stop aid, Chinis will stop aid and arm, French will stop selling to Pakis.
Why are we expecting US to fight our battles? Are we helping fight there?
The point is simple. When we whack Pakis like we did in Kargil, no one will come in the way. When we dont, everyone will have fun at our expense.
The problem is us. We are the hypocrites.
Why are we expecting US to fight our battles? Are we helping fight there?
The point is simple. When we whack Pakis like we did in Kargil, no one will come in the way. When we dont, everyone will have fun at our expense.
The problem is us. We are the hypocrites.
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
yensoy Ji :yensoy wrote:yensoy wrote:Yeah, totally expected. Someone took a look at the map of Afghanistan and its environs and suddenly went "oops".
US isn't going to help us fight our battles. The best we can expect from them is to stay out of the way. A bigger bonus would be if they stop subsidizing Terroristan.
As the Lady said :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBq3Cjpt2YM
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
^^+400nam wrote:It is our delusion to even think US will stop aid, Chinis will stop aid and arm, French will stop selling to Pakis.
Why are we expecting US to fight our battles? Are we helping fight there?
The point is simple. When we whack Pakis like we did in Kargil, no one will come in the way. When we dont, everyone will have fun at our expense.
The problem is us. We are the hypocrites.
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Pakistan blames US for failure to curb money laundering
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Tuesday put the blame of its failure to completely crack down on money laundering and terror financing on the United States and said Washington was not actively supporting its bid for membership of a global alliance.
In its capacity as co-sponsor, the US was not actively supporting Pakistan’s request for membership of the Egmont Group – a club of financial intelligence units (FIU) of 156 nations, said Syed Mansoor Ali, the Director General of Pakistan’s Financial Monitoring Unit (FMU).
Ali made the statement in a meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Finance that had called officials of the State Bank and the finance ministry to get an update on Pakistan’s request for the group’s membership.
The Egmont Group provides a platform for the secure exchange of expertise and financial intelligence to combat money laundering and terrorist financing.
The official said in reply to a question that he did not know the reason behind the lacklustre US support for Pakistan’s membership. It is mandatory for an applicant state to seek the sponsorship of two members of the Egmont Group and the US and Japan had given their consent to Pakistan’s application.
Ali said both the US and Japan’s FIUs had visited Pakistan in November 2012 for observing the FMU’s facilities and systems.
The Financial Action Task Force – an inter-governmental body working to combat money laundering – recommends that its members seek the membership of Egmont Group also.
In September 2011, the federal cabinet permitted the initiation of the process of seeking the Egmont Group’s membership. It also approved allowing the US Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN) and Japan’s Financial Intelligence Centre (JAFIC) to sponsor Pakistan’s membership.
Pakistan applied for the group’s membership in 2012 and the FINCEN and JAFIC conducted the onsite visits of the FMU. On the basis of their report, the Operation Working Group of Egmont technically cleared Pakistan’s membership, said Ali.
However, the Legal Working Group of the organisation found some deficiencies in Pakistan’s Anti-Money Laundering (AML) Act and rejected the application, he added.
Ali said that unlike foreign FIUs’ single-stage agreement, the FMU was following a two-tier system for sharing information. Pakistan addressed this legal objection in December 2015 by amending the AML law and adopting the single-stage agreement with the counterparts for the exchange of information.
Pakistan had shared the latest status with both Japan and the US, requesting them to resume the process of its membership, he said. “But the US is not actively taking up our request and we do not know the reasons,” said Ali.
Implications
The FMU and the law enforcement agencies are not able to completely analyse or investigate money laundering and terrorism financing cases wherever foreign jurisdictions are involved, according to the unit’s written statement shared with the standing committee.
It added that mostly illicit money emanating from Pakistan due to corruption and organised and other serious crimes went out of the country.
The assets acquired in Pakistan or abroad through illicit proceeds could be traced on the receipt of intelligence from the foreign FIUs or sharing of information with them, it added.
“Absence of any mechanism to exchange financial intelligence with other FIUs leaves us devoid of the opportunity to trace back the suspicious transactions having international dimensions,” according to the FMU statement.
“The platform of the Egmont would help the FMU in analysing the suspicious transactions and tracing the proceeds of crime, uncovering criminal assets across member countries by following the trail, thereby helping the FMU and LEAs in successfully combating the menace of money laundering and terrorist financing,” it said.
“I have got an impression during my interactions with foreign dignitaries that Pakistan was resisting to be part of Egmont Group,” said Saleem Mandviwalla, the committee’s chairman. He asked the finance ministry to actively pursue the case and report back to the committee next month.
Mansoor Ali said the group’s membership was very important for Pakistan and expressed the hope that the country might be able to get it next year. He said that despite engagements with the US, there had been no productive results so far.
Cheers
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Tuesday put the blame of its failure to completely crack down on money laundering and terror financing on the United States and said Washington was not actively supporting its bid for membership of a global alliance.
In its capacity as co-sponsor, the US was not actively supporting Pakistan’s request for membership of the Egmont Group – a club of financial intelligence units (FIU) of 156 nations, said Syed Mansoor Ali, the Director General of Pakistan’s Financial Monitoring Unit (FMU).
Ali made the statement in a meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Finance that had called officials of the State Bank and the finance ministry to get an update on Pakistan’s request for the group’s membership.
The Egmont Group provides a platform for the secure exchange of expertise and financial intelligence to combat money laundering and terrorist financing.
The official said in reply to a question that he did not know the reason behind the lacklustre US support for Pakistan’s membership. It is mandatory for an applicant state to seek the sponsorship of two members of the Egmont Group and the US and Japan had given their consent to Pakistan’s application.
Ali said both the US and Japan’s FIUs had visited Pakistan in November 2012 for observing the FMU’s facilities and systems.
The Financial Action Task Force – an inter-governmental body working to combat money laundering – recommends that its members seek the membership of Egmont Group also.
In September 2011, the federal cabinet permitted the initiation of the process of seeking the Egmont Group’s membership. It also approved allowing the US Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN) and Japan’s Financial Intelligence Centre (JAFIC) to sponsor Pakistan’s membership.
Pakistan applied for the group’s membership in 2012 and the FINCEN and JAFIC conducted the onsite visits of the FMU. On the basis of their report, the Operation Working Group of Egmont technically cleared Pakistan’s membership, said Ali.
However, the Legal Working Group of the organisation found some deficiencies in Pakistan’s Anti-Money Laundering (AML) Act and rejected the application, he added.
Ali said that unlike foreign FIUs’ single-stage agreement, the FMU was following a two-tier system for sharing information. Pakistan addressed this legal objection in December 2015 by amending the AML law and adopting the single-stage agreement with the counterparts for the exchange of information.
Pakistan had shared the latest status with both Japan and the US, requesting them to resume the process of its membership, he said. “But the US is not actively taking up our request and we do not know the reasons,” said Ali.
Implications
The FMU and the law enforcement agencies are not able to completely analyse or investigate money laundering and terrorism financing cases wherever foreign jurisdictions are involved, according to the unit’s written statement shared with the standing committee.
It added that mostly illicit money emanating from Pakistan due to corruption and organised and other serious crimes went out of the country.
The assets acquired in Pakistan or abroad through illicit proceeds could be traced on the receipt of intelligence from the foreign FIUs or sharing of information with them, it added.
“Absence of any mechanism to exchange financial intelligence with other FIUs leaves us devoid of the opportunity to trace back the suspicious transactions having international dimensions,” according to the FMU statement.
“The platform of the Egmont would help the FMU in analysing the suspicious transactions and tracing the proceeds of crime, uncovering criminal assets across member countries by following the trail, thereby helping the FMU and LEAs in successfully combating the menace of money laundering and terrorist financing,” it said.
“I have got an impression during my interactions with foreign dignitaries that Pakistan was resisting to be part of Egmont Group,” said Saleem Mandviwalla, the committee’s chairman. He asked the finance ministry to actively pursue the case and report back to the committee next month.
Mansoor Ali said the group’s membership was very important for Pakistan and expressed the hope that the country might be able to get it next year. He said that despite engagements with the US, there had been no productive results so far.
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
There was a young girl from spain
Who met with misfortune again
and again and again
and again and again
and again and again and again...
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Pakistan reluctant to join world anti-money laundering body ‘Egmont Group’
Link
Pakistan as usual is lying. It wants to join the group as per 'it laws' ( as if they have laws or may be shairiah).
Link
Pakistan as usual is lying. It wants to join the group as per 'it laws' ( as if they have laws or may be shairiah).
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
The US and International Community should recognize these sacrifices made by Pakistan and stop asking it to do more.anupmisra wrote:This just in!
Honey bee attack at burial leaves 70 injured in Punjab
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23447 ... -in-PunjabAt least 70 were injured after being stung by a swarm of bees at the burial of a woman in Khanewal
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
This is open rebellion, if it is anything.
Rangers withdraw security of Parliament House
Bhy? Here'j bhy:
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23450 ... ment-House
Rangers withdraw security of Parliament House
Bhy? Here'j bhy:
Rangers have withdrawn its personnel deployed on the security of the Parliament House two days after Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal raised objections on the deployment of the paramilitary force in the premises of Accountability Court without the permission of civilian administration.
Next time you want protection, file a requisition, OK?The Rangers in its stance has stated that security would be provided only after Islamabad administration files requisition for it.
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23450 ... ment-House
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Haram gosht found in local supermarkets - shop in Islamabad sealed. This is one of the new Chinese shops in town selling pork products.
"Haram Shop" Selling "Polk" In Isloo
"Haram Shop" Selling "Polk" In Isloo
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Transgender Empowerment In Pakiland
Allama Iqbal Open University announces free education for transgenders
Mullah Brigade Allowing This!
Allama Iqbal Open University announces free education for transgenders
Mullah Brigade Allowing This!
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Hain ji! All 4 crore kammandus in command of the areas around Isloo have been captured in a single frame!
Masha-allah!!!
Masha-allah!!!
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
AoA, Gaganullah! Bajwa looks stunning in blue!
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
No room for the truth
The lover of the wine cup who blurts out the truth in a state of abandon is better than the jurisconsult who seeks refuge in expediency. — Zafar Ali Khan
MUCH water has flown under the bridge, assuming that what flows into the Ravi these days is water, since Khawaja Asif began to be lambasted for speaking truthfully about some of the problems that involvement in the Afghanistan conflict has saddled Pakistan with. This is not surprising. Indeed, it only confirms Bulleh Shah’s axiom that when the truth is out, a commotion must follow.
What is surprising, and quite painful, is the fact that not many people have had the courage to speak in support of the foreign minister. Barring a couple of rational comments, the media overwhelmingly joined the chorus of calumny. While the minister’s party members chose to discover the virtues of silence, the opposition stalwarts jumped at the opportunity to play to the gallery. The Foreign Office’s clarification that the minister’s statement had been quoted out of context amounted to denying him credit for being honest.
The affair will sooner or later be superseded by another meaningless controversy. What should not be forgotten is the bitter reality that the habit of denial has found a permanent place in the minds of Pakistanis.
The terrible consequences of living in denial are well known. By denying a fact that is known to many, if not to everyone, you invite being called a knave or a liar, or both. Worse, persistent denial will more often than not convince you that the problem is not real. And you cannot try to solve a problem if you believe that it does not exist. Subsequently, you may become aware of your mistake, but by then, the issue might have become insolvable or the cost of setting matters right unaffordable.
This is also what has happened in the case of Balochistan. Persistent refusal to see the real causes of discontent in that province from the point of view of its people, and attempts to force the latter to sing patriotic songs under the shadow of bayonets, have made all parties sink deeper and deeper into despair. A fair settlement of Balochistan’s grievances that seemed possible 40 years ago has been made almost impossible by preferring falsehood to the truth.
There is, however, a need to take up with Khawaja Asif the question of the manner in which the truth, especially of the unwelcome variety, can be told most effectively. He is known for speaking in unnecessarily high tones and often off the cuff. This style won’t help him as foreign ministers are expected to be firm without appearing to be unreasonable. They should be able to convey the most bitter of messages after coating it with sugar. The reason is obvious: truth’s hardest blows will have no effect on those steeped in falsehood, whereas a persuasive rendering of the truth can at least make the other party reflect on what it has been told.
But where does a Pakistani politician acquire the art of speaking persuasively? Unfortunately, our party platforms have become notorious for being used only to abuse rivals, and our legislatures are rarely treated to insightful speeches that could command the respect of both friend and critic. It is difficult for anyone to pick up the finer points of parliamentary oratory if assembly proceedings are reduced to the glorification of one’s own labours and the demonisation of the other. It is necessary — not only for the pleasure of listening to a finely worded address but also for making democratic norms stronger — that parliamentary debates be made thematically richer and the scope of discussion extended to include whatever is relevant.
Maybe, the Pakistan Institute for Parliamentary Services should do something in this regard. This useful institution has attracted notice with the latest issue of its periodical publication, Parliamentary Research Digest, for July-August 2017.
The slim newsletter tells us of an event described as parliamentary dialogue on ‘youth building peace’ held on Aug 8 this year. The participants included members of parliament, academics, diplomats and students from 25 universities and colleges from different parts of the country. Making our youth familiar with parliament’s working is a sound method of deepening democracy. In fact, there is much to be said for taking all students on the opening day of each academic year to a national or local hero’s monument, a democratic institution (from union council office to provincial assembly to parliament) and/or a historical/ anthropological museum. Children should start learning about their identity, their history and democratic governance as early in life as possible.
The next feature is a recollection of the proceedings of the constituent assembly of Pakistan on Aug 10, 11 and 12, 1947, including the Quaid’s historic address on being elected president of the assembly. This is followed by the report of a function held on Aug 10-11, 2017, to celebrate parliament as Pakistan turned 70. Finally, one finds a refreshing though preliminary paper on ‘gender-responsive budgeting’, a subject that is most relevant to Pakistan and yet very rarely discussed. The writer offers us useful examples of how the subject is addressed in Australia, South Africa, Sri Lanka and India.
In a country where state institutions seldom win approval for their labours, this institution deserves to be commended. And that is why it is asked to develop as rich as possible a library of books, videos and films on parliamentary practices where our legislators could, individually and collectively, equip themselves with the means of making their debates livelier, informative and educative and thus advance the conventions of democracy more effectively. They will help make the truth more palatable and also establish a tradition of facing it squarely.
Cheers
The lover of the wine cup who blurts out the truth in a state of abandon is better than the jurisconsult who seeks refuge in expediency. — Zafar Ali Khan
MUCH water has flown under the bridge, assuming that what flows into the Ravi these days is water, since Khawaja Asif began to be lambasted for speaking truthfully about some of the problems that involvement in the Afghanistan conflict has saddled Pakistan with. This is not surprising. Indeed, it only confirms Bulleh Shah’s axiom that when the truth is out, a commotion must follow.
What is surprising, and quite painful, is the fact that not many people have had the courage to speak in support of the foreign minister. Barring a couple of rational comments, the media overwhelmingly joined the chorus of calumny. While the minister’s party members chose to discover the virtues of silence, the opposition stalwarts jumped at the opportunity to play to the gallery. The Foreign Office’s clarification that the minister’s statement had been quoted out of context amounted to denying him credit for being honest.
The affair will sooner or later be superseded by another meaningless controversy. What should not be forgotten is the bitter reality that the habit of denial has found a permanent place in the minds of Pakistanis.
The terrible consequences of living in denial are well known. By denying a fact that is known to many, if not to everyone, you invite being called a knave or a liar, or both. Worse, persistent denial will more often than not convince you that the problem is not real. And you cannot try to solve a problem if you believe that it does not exist. Subsequently, you may become aware of your mistake, but by then, the issue might have become insolvable or the cost of setting matters right unaffordable.
This is also what has happened in the case of Balochistan. Persistent refusal to see the real causes of discontent in that province from the point of view of its people, and attempts to force the latter to sing patriotic songs under the shadow of bayonets, have made all parties sink deeper and deeper into despair. A fair settlement of Balochistan’s grievances that seemed possible 40 years ago has been made almost impossible by preferring falsehood to the truth.
There is, however, a need to take up with Khawaja Asif the question of the manner in which the truth, especially of the unwelcome variety, can be told most effectively. He is known for speaking in unnecessarily high tones and often off the cuff. This style won’t help him as foreign ministers are expected to be firm without appearing to be unreasonable. They should be able to convey the most bitter of messages after coating it with sugar. The reason is obvious: truth’s hardest blows will have no effect on those steeped in falsehood, whereas a persuasive rendering of the truth can at least make the other party reflect on what it has been told.
But where does a Pakistani politician acquire the art of speaking persuasively? Unfortunately, our party platforms have become notorious for being used only to abuse rivals, and our legislatures are rarely treated to insightful speeches that could command the respect of both friend and critic. It is difficult for anyone to pick up the finer points of parliamentary oratory if assembly proceedings are reduced to the glorification of one’s own labours and the demonisation of the other. It is necessary — not only for the pleasure of listening to a finely worded address but also for making democratic norms stronger — that parliamentary debates be made thematically richer and the scope of discussion extended to include whatever is relevant.
Maybe, the Pakistan Institute for Parliamentary Services should do something in this regard. This useful institution has attracted notice with the latest issue of its periodical publication, Parliamentary Research Digest, for July-August 2017.
The slim newsletter tells us of an event described as parliamentary dialogue on ‘youth building peace’ held on Aug 8 this year. The participants included members of parliament, academics, diplomats and students from 25 universities and colleges from different parts of the country. Making our youth familiar with parliament’s working is a sound method of deepening democracy. In fact, there is much to be said for taking all students on the opening day of each academic year to a national or local hero’s monument, a democratic institution (from union council office to provincial assembly to parliament) and/or a historical/ anthropological museum. Children should start learning about their identity, their history and democratic governance as early in life as possible.
The next feature is a recollection of the proceedings of the constituent assembly of Pakistan on Aug 10, 11 and 12, 1947, including the Quaid’s historic address on being elected president of the assembly. This is followed by the report of a function held on Aug 10-11, 2017, to celebrate parliament as Pakistan turned 70. Finally, one finds a refreshing though preliminary paper on ‘gender-responsive budgeting’, a subject that is most relevant to Pakistan and yet very rarely discussed. The writer offers us useful examples of how the subject is addressed in Australia, South Africa, Sri Lanka and India.
In a country where state institutions seldom win approval for their labours, this institution deserves to be commended. And that is why it is asked to develop as rich as possible a library of books, videos and films on parliamentary practices where our legislators could, individually and collectively, equip themselves with the means of making their debates livelier, informative and educative and thus advance the conventions of democracy more effectively. They will help make the truth more palatable and also establish a tradition of facing it squarely.
Cheers
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Drinking Deep From The "Public Trough"
Saaf Pani goes muddy
Saaf Pani goes muddy
LAHORE - The Lahore High Court Wednesday censured the Punjab government for not presenting details of public sector companies.
Lawyer Sania Kanwal has moved the petition against Punjab Saaf Pani Company, alleging that billions of rupees from national exchequer were being spent on foreign tours of its officials. She alleged that the officials were purchasing expensive bulletproof cars from the funds allocated for provision of potable water to the public.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
This is very much like a comedy scene from a Malayalam movie!anupmisra wrote:This just in!
Honey bee attack at burial leaves 70 injured in Punjab
https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/23447 ... -in-Punjab
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
I FULLY support the baki politicos. If they are not safe jamooriyat will be in khatra who the will provide safe drinking water? After all Bakistan is THE frontline state in war on terror and public servants are always in danger. In the meantime more Islam for the awam drinking water can come later.Falijee wrote:Drinking Deep From The "Public Trough"
Saaf Pani goes muddy
LAHORE - The Lahore High Court Wednesday censured the Punjab government for not presenting details of public sector companies.Lawyer Sania Kanwal has moved the petition against Punjab Saaf Pani Company, alleging that billions of rupees from national exchequer were being spent on foreign tours of its officials. She alleged that the officials were purchasing expensive bulletproof cars from the funds allocated for provision of potable water to the public.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
These days everyone in bakistan is asking everyone else to reveal their link to heera mandi.
Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017
There is a vacuum bulb explosion at a 'shrine' Only 7 got their 72 so far.
Dawn
Dawn
Terroristan - 29 September 2017
Row over Pak paramilitary unit fuels speculation of rift in govt-army ties
ISLAMABAD: An unexplained dispute between Pakistan's interior minister and an elite paramilitary unit under his command is adding to political confusion in Islamabad, prompting questions about a rift in ties between civilian leaders and the powerful military.
The spat comes at a moment of heightened concern over the feverish political climate in nuclear-armed Pakistan, which the United States seeks to include in its new strategy for South Asia.
Interior Minister Ashan Iqbal was taken by surprise when the elite Rangers unit, which provides security around parliament, withdrew its guards without explanation on Wednesday.
"I was told the Rangers have unilaterally withdrawn from the important installations where they were on duty, which, for us, was shocking," Iqbal told domestic television channel Dawn News.
"This was a gross violation."
Outside parliament on Thursday, the country's Frontier Constabulary was on guard instead. A police official on duty confirmed the Rangers were no longer stationed there.
"The order for them to leave did not come from the interior ministry, it must have come from somewhere else," said the official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the topic.
Rangers' officials could not immediately be reached for comment. Iqbal did not immediately respond to Reuters' telephone calls to seek comment.
The Rangers had this week denied Iqbal entry to a court building where matters relating to an anti-graft case against Sharif were being heard, prompting him to threaten to resign, saying he refused to be "a puppet interior minister".
The moves follow July's Supreme Court disqualification of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, which he blamed on a conspiracy against him, feeding speculation about a rupture in civilian-military ties.
Senior leaders from Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) party pointed fingers at the country's military after his disqualification for not declaring a source of income. The army denies playing a role.
But the Rangers' departure from the area around parliament points to a persistent disagreement between civilian and military leaders, one analyst said.
"They can't just leave their posts," said Zeeshan Salahuddin, communications and strategy director of the Islamabad-based Centre for Research and Security Studies.
"If they have done so without orders, that clearly shows the continuing rift between the two, and the displeasure of the military."
Pakistan's military has ruled the country for 33 of the 70 years since independence from Britain in 1947. Since 2008, there have been democratically elected governments, but the army retains sweeping influence and any hint of discord stirs worries among advocates of a strong civilian government.
"We have concerns about the future of Pakistan's government too, in terms of them - we want their government to be stable," US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, following a meeting with Pakistan's foreign minister on Wednesday.
The government will take action after completing an inquiry into the withdrawal, Iqbal added.
"The Rangers are a force subordinate to the ministry of the interior and when they are deployed, they are supposed to work under the civil administration," he said.
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ISLAMABAD: An unexplained dispute between Pakistan's interior minister and an elite paramilitary unit under his command is adding to political confusion in Islamabad, prompting questions about a rift in ties between civilian leaders and the powerful military.
The spat comes at a moment of heightened concern over the feverish political climate in nuclear-armed Pakistan, which the United States seeks to include in its new strategy for South Asia.
Interior Minister Ashan Iqbal was taken by surprise when the elite Rangers unit, which provides security around parliament, withdrew its guards without explanation on Wednesday.
"I was told the Rangers have unilaterally withdrawn from the important installations where they were on duty, which, for us, was shocking," Iqbal told domestic television channel Dawn News.
"This was a gross violation."
Outside parliament on Thursday, the country's Frontier Constabulary was on guard instead. A police official on duty confirmed the Rangers were no longer stationed there.
"The order for them to leave did not come from the interior ministry, it must have come from somewhere else," said the official, who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the topic.
Rangers' officials could not immediately be reached for comment. Iqbal did not immediately respond to Reuters' telephone calls to seek comment.
The Rangers had this week denied Iqbal entry to a court building where matters relating to an anti-graft case against Sharif were being heard, prompting him to threaten to resign, saying he refused to be "a puppet interior minister".
The moves follow July's Supreme Court disqualification of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, which he blamed on a conspiracy against him, feeding speculation about a rupture in civilian-military ties.
Senior leaders from Sharif's Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) party pointed fingers at the country's military after his disqualification for not declaring a source of income. The army denies playing a role.
But the Rangers' departure from the area around parliament points to a persistent disagreement between civilian and military leaders, one analyst said.
"They can't just leave their posts," said Zeeshan Salahuddin, communications and strategy director of the Islamabad-based Centre for Research and Security Studies.
"If they have done so without orders, that clearly shows the continuing rift between the two, and the displeasure of the military."
Pakistan's military has ruled the country for 33 of the 70 years since independence from Britain in 1947. Since 2008, there have been democratically elected governments, but the army retains sweeping influence and any hint of discord stirs worries among advocates of a strong civilian government.
"We have concerns about the future of Pakistan's government too, in terms of them - we want their government to be stable," US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said, following a meeting with Pakistan's foreign minister on Wednesday.
The government will take action after completing an inquiry into the withdrawal, Iqbal added.
"The Rangers are a force subordinate to the ministry of the interior and when they are deployed, they are supposed to work under the civil administration," he said.
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