Terroristan - 29 September 2017

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 00:28

Mohammad Taqi‏Verified account @mazdaki
Dec 7
Talks with Sec Def Mattis didn’t go that well, obviously
#Pakistan #US

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IMO, From the photu "Sohail means "business" :mrgreen:

And then this "boast"
PAF can shoot down any drone violating Pakistani airspace, says air chief

IMO, the Air Vice Marshal was "smoking" something different that day :D . The same day, he "confidently asserted" that Pakistan will send a man in space within 2 years !!!!

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby abhijitm » 09 Dec 2017 00:48

Gagan wrote:

Terroristan does not have the will or the ability to do this.
The most that will happen is that the Dafa-ho-bakistan mullahs will riot in the streets in isloo, lawhore & Kachra and destroy public property.
One or two, shalwar & achkan wearing, goat smelling diplomutts might make am a$$ of themselves in a few international meets & that's about it
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And together they will shout 'go america go'

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Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 09 Dec 2017 01:21

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KSE-100 Index crashes to 17-month low amid political noise
KARACHI: Pakistan equities lost ground on Thursday with benchmark KSE-100 Index losing 1,123 points or 2.8 percent, falling below the 39,000 level to close at a 17?month low of 38,785 points. The KSE100 Index was 38,368 points on July 11, 2016.

TERRORISTAN STOCK EXCHANGE CHART
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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby jash_p » 09 Dec 2017 05:50

Guys Yom - e - Sakoot e Dhaka is coming on 16 december.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 06:06

Indian diplomat summoned over LoC violations :D

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Friday summoned a senior India diplomat to lodge a protest over the violations along the Line of Control.
“Director General South Asia Dr Mohammed Faisal summoned Indian Deputy High Commissioner J P Singh and “condemned the unprovoked ceasefire violations by the Indian occupation forces on December 7 by the Indian forces in Chirikot Sector, Chaffar Village while a funeral prayer was being offered, resulting in the deaths of two civilians (Shaukat and Iqbal resident of Chaffar village), and injuries to four others,” said a foreign ministry statement. IMO, there is a direct correlation between the "summoning" and the "punishment" that is meted out to the Pakis for LOC violations :mrgreen:
The director general urged :roll: India to respect the 2003 ceasefire arrangement, investigate this and other incidents of ceasefire violations , instruct the Indian forces to respect the ceasefire, in letter and spirit and maintain peace on the LoC and the Working Boundary.He said the Indian side should permit UN observers to play their mandated role as per the Security Council resolutions. :roll:


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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 06:42

Suited and Booted Sadiq, on his Daura-e-Pakiland Offering "homage" at D Jinnah's "Place Of Rest" :mrgreen:


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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Guddu » 09 Dec 2017 07:45

Who is the Raa agent ?....the guy doing palmistry !

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Gagan » 09 Dec 2017 08:08

^^^
The wimmens on the left shouting "Bharat Mata Ki Jai" with a raised hand

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 09 Dec 2017 08:17

Guddu wrote:Who is the Raa agent ?....the guy doing palmistry !


You mean, who is the astRAWloger?

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 09 Dec 2017 08:18

Gagan wrote:^^^
The wimmens on the left shouting "Bharat Mata Ki Jai" with a raised hand


Why are the ahmedis on the extreme right and left not praying?

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Gagan » 09 Dec 2017 08:32

anupmisra wrote:
Gagan wrote:^^^
The wimmens on the left shouting "Bharat Mata Ki Jai" with a raised hand


Why are the ahmedis on the extreme right and left not praying?

He might not be Ahmedia, but the greenest of the green.
AoA this is Djinn-aah's Mazaar, Djinn-aah who went to an Imambargah (or never went), and not a masjid...

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 16:45

Altaf Bhai's Ayeshas Manhandled By Paki Police :roll:

Police round up MQM-London female workers

KARACHI: Female workers of MQM-London were rounded up by police and taken into custody after they attempted to make it to the 'Yadgar-e-Shuhuda' monument despite authorities' instructions not to do so.According to details, female workers of MQM-London who had arrived to pay their respects to the dead were arrested by police and transported to an undisclosed location in a vehicle. Self appointed guardian of Paki Female - Ms Maryam Nawaz Sharif, should take "due note" and "do the needful" . :mrgreen:
Law enforcement agencies had sternly warned anyone from going to the monument. Routes leading to Azizabad have been sealed by buses and vehicles. The female workers of MQM-London were arrested from Allah Wali Chowrangi and Mukka Chowk. Are females allowed to assert themselves in the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan. Is their job not in the four corners of their home :roll:
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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 17:26

Times Are Good For Malsi In Slumbad As Per This Well -Known Paki - Anal-list :mrgreen:

Islam Marches On, In and On Islamabad
By Ayesha Siddiqa

The world watched patiently for 22 days to ultimately see the government of Pakistan surrender to what was literally a handful of mullahs from the Barelvi sect, an ideological group that in the public imagination is not linked with violence. But is that not something called "taqiyah" in Islam !.
The Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan led by mullah Khadim Hussain Rizvi initially bayed for the blood of federal law minister Zahid Hamid, and later, the government itself. Their sin? An unproven accusation of tampering with the spirit of the 2nd amendment to the Pakistani constitution that in 1974 had declared Ahmediyyas as non-Muslim and, in the process, linked Pakistani citizenship with the principle of accepting Prophet Muhammad as the last messenger of God. Mullahs' message : Do not "mess with Malsi" :mrgreen:
Notwithstanding the socio-cultural and religious issues thrown up by this issue, the most significant aspect of the drama was the role the army chief played as mediator – negotiating a deal between the protestors and the elected government that was nothing but an embarrassment for the latter. There is nothing new in this. The Army has always been the "final arbiter" as far as Pakistan is concerned !
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The policemen who had earlier been asked to clear the protest of a couple of hundred people on the orders of the Islamabad high court were kicked, beaten, tear-gassed and even tortured, while the army and the army-dominated paramilitary force, the Rangers, stood on the sidelines as silent spectators. The Rangers, who come under the interior ministry, refused to intervene. Army chief Qamar Bajwa was of the view that “the army does not want to fight its own people”. If many people were surprised by that statement, the real shock was the sight of a Rangers major general distributing Rs 1,000 notes to protesters. The "lame excuse" given was that the protesters who came from "far", did not have any money to "go back home", hence the "reimbursement". Other media reports "suggested" that Khadim Rizvi was paid Rs 21 crore (!) "under the table" to call off the protest . :mrgreen:
Worse still, the army-brokered agreement stipulated that the government pay for millions of rupees worth of damage done to public property by the miscreants, release the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP) activists from jail, set up a committee of mullahs to adjudicate on whether certain members of the Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) had blasphemed and provide greater flexibility in the use of loudspeakers in mosques – something the government had restricted as part of a 2015 law to curb hate speech. The state of affairs was best summed up by the senior journalist Zahid Hussain when he tweeted: “Who says constitution and parliament are supreme in this country? No more. It is back to Mullah-military alliance. God save this country”. The revival of the Mullah -Military alliance has to be understood in the context of Deep State plan to "mainstream" the Islamic parties for the next general election of 2018 !
‘Mullah-military alliance’ is of course short-hand for describing the changes unfolding in Pakistan that have sapped its already weakened democracy and rickety institutional infrastructure. What we are witnessing is the metamorphosis of the country’s socio-polity from a post-colonial form to a more organic religious one. Pakistan was always an "Islamic Republic" !
The overall impression created internationally is that a weak and embattled political government backed down in the face of Islamists, who could only be handled by the powerful military. However, the manner in which events unfolded is symptomatic of how tactical moves ultimately result in strategic transformation. Thanks to the antics of the fauj, the civilian govt has been made to look "spineless" :mrgreen:
The manner in which Khadim Rizvi – an otherwise uneducated cleric from Attock who worked at a small mosque in Lahore till 2011 – could analyse and interpret a very small part of the electoral reform bill as a contravention of the 2nd amendment of the constitution is itself intriguing. The larger bill had been negotiated over a period of more than a year by all parties in parliament, which, in the process had agreed to delete articles 7B and 7C that were initially introduced by General Pervez Musharraf in 2002.
The forward push provided to the TLP in the short-term may not count for much except for the slap on the face of the civilian government and parliament that it has produced; however, its implications for the state in the long-term are immense. ( no kidding !)
The TLP’s victory does not in any way mean that it will sweep the 2018 elections, nor will the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba/Jamaat-ed-Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed, who just announced his intent to use the platform of the Milli Muslim League (MML) for the purpose. These parties combined may only be able to disturb the vote banks of the PML(N), and to some extent, the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI). In fact, the religious political parties aim to eat into the votes of all national parties and thereby ensure a weak coalition government. A strong government representing a larger majority, especially in Punjab, risks changing the contours of Pakistan’s politics – from a bureaucratic polity to a political polity. So, the religious parties are going to "act as policeman " to ensure that the weak coalition govt does not mess with Malsi :mrgreen:
The handful of liberals in the country – who are being attacked by Imran Khan as ‘scum of the earth’ – are terrified at the thought of the Khadim Rizvi brigade gaining greater space in the coming days. Such calculations are based on extrapolation: the TLP won approximately 11,000 votes in the September NA-120 by-election and this has been been taken mean that the party has millions of supporters throughout the country. The assessment is based on an understanding that most Muslims in the country are Barelvi and would vote for the TLP. The reality is somewhat different.
The Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan and Khadim Rizvi do indeed represent a major milestone in Pakistan’s Islamisation. However, a shift in the electoral scene is the least of all the changes on the horizon. Before 2011, Rizvi was nothing but a petty cleric and an employee of the Auqaf department of the Punjab government at a small mosque in Lahore. He became visible that year after launching an unorganised protest in defence of Mumtaz Qadri, who killed governor Salman Taseer in January 2011. Rizvi eventually lost his job due to the continued use of a loudspeaker in his mosque, something that was forbidden by the government.
So, when he lost his "livelihood" , he "branched out into Paki politics", a a career change , that has worked wonders for him - so far :mrgreen:
The TLP was born subsequently – after Mumtaz Qadri’s hanging in 2016 – as a joint venture between Rizvi and another cleric named Ashraf Jalali, who is considered an even more radical Barelvi than his partner. Between the two mullahs, they managed to excite a section of the urban Barelvi youth, who until then, were depressed by the thought of Deobandis forcibly appropriating space from them. Maulana Fazl, a Deobandi cleric should watch out for this "new upstart" in the " Malsi game" !
The link between the state and the Deobandi religious and militant groups dates back to the early 1980s. The Barelvis had missed the earlier jihad bus with only one small Barelvi group, which has its origins in Jhang, south Punjab, fighting in Kashmir. The militant capacity of the Deobandi and Ahl-e-Hadith groups made them relevant in the local socio-political space, forcing even some of the big Sufi shrines to either partner with Deobandis or turn a blind eye while Deobandi militants delivered them material gains in return for gaining control over Barelvi mosques. According to journalist Aoun Abbas Sahi, it is this space that the TLP seems to have filled by demonstrating its capacity to be as capable as any other group of taking the battle to the streets and challenging the state. Will the Saudis look helpless as their Wahabi base in Pakiland is being usurped by this new genre, which they had not anticipated, if, they are still in the "Jihad business" :D
Nonetheless, the TLP has failed to emerge as a unified force. There is already a breach within the group between Khadim Rizvi and Ashraf Jalali over the division of labour and resources. This means that electorally, the TLP could hurt the PML(N) through its propaganda that Sharif and his party were involved in blasphemy, which could scare voters away from the party. But the bulk of the Barelvi vote will continue to go to local bigwigs, ( like Jilani and Qureishi of South Pakjab!) many of whom are also pirs of Sufi shrines around Punjab.
The greatest impact of Barelvi radicalism, however, is long-term, in the form of how it will further cripple Sufi Islam – which in Pakistan’s case is popularly but wrongly equated with the Barelvi sect. ( What about the "great umbrella of Ummahism " whatever happened to that concept !)
While Sufi Islam revolves around the esoteric, the Barelvi sect has its basis in the reformist movement started by Ahmed Raza Barelvi in 18th century India, which also aimed at rooting out inappropriate cultural traditions from Indian Islam. The Barelvis differed from the Deobandis in insisting upon the centrality of sufis and walis (pious men) in religious discourse. The gradual lack of ideological capacity compounded with growing corruption of the sufi institution not only weakened the shrines but resulted in an ideological merger of the Sufi with the Barelvi. Post-Khadim Rizvi, the space will shrink even further with the pirs forced to conform to Rizvi’s ideological agenda for fear of losing their constituency.
The fact that Shah Mehmood Qureshi of the PTI – the former foreign minister who represents one of the largest Sufi shrines in Multan – joined a TLP rally in his city denotes that surrender. Other pirs, such as of the Golra shrine in Islamabad, are likely to switch from using Deobandi militants to Barelvi radical-street power for sorting out land appropriation issues. In the process, the pir would have to stay within the perimeter set by the acidic TLP’s Barelvi ideology that is neither sympathetic to the Ahmediyya nor the Shias. In fact, un-noticed by many, the Barelvi madrassas are increasingly uncomfortable with Shias and present the 12th Rabiul-awwal (the Prophet’s birthday) as their main marker. The Shias revere Ali more than PBUH ! [/quote]
The Barelvi rhetoric constructed around the centrality of the Prophet has even narrowed the space for Saeed, who has to look at this principle as a primary rather than a secondary factor. Although Saeed criticised any move to make any changes to the ‘khatme nabuyat’ – finality of prophethood – law, it was perhaps more out of a sense of keeping Pakistan on a religious track and joining the larger anti-PML(N) chorus. Ideologically, the khatme nabuyat slogan is the mainstay of the Barelvis. From there, the principle branches out in all other directions which is contrary to the beliefs of the Ahl-e-Hadith, which is what the LeT/JuD are. Since 1984, Saeed and his group have made considerable gains that they would not want to surrender to any Barelvi cleric. Stay tuned to the "Malsi sectorial civil war" coming to a neighbourhood masjid near you :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 09 Dec 2017 17:51

Falijee wrote:Mohammad Taqi‏Verified account @mazdaki
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Talks with Sec Def Mattis didn’t go that well, obviously
#Pakistan #US

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IMO, From the photu "Sohail means "business" :mrgreen:

And then this "boast"
PAF can shoot down any drone violating Pakistani airspace, says air chief

IMO, the Air Vice Marshal was "smoking" something different that day :D . The same day, he "confidently asserted" that Pakistan will send a man in space within 2 years !!!!
Falijee Ji :

Why has the AVM got Breakfast Scrambled Eggs on his hat?

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Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 09 Dec 2017 18:33

X Posted on the Analyzing CPEC Thread

CPEC funds halted: China wants Pakistan army to take over projects?

NEW DELHI: Beijing's "new guidelines" overseeing the release of funds to Pakistan as part of its ambitious China-Pakistan Economic Corridor may stipulate greater involvement of the Pakistan army in the multi-billion dollar project, a report by global think-tank European Foundation for South Asian Studies (EFSAS) suggests.

The funding of three major road projects in Pakistan was expected to be finalised during the Joint Working Group (JWG) meeting held on November 20, but Islamabad was informed that the existing procedure for release of funds had been abolished and "new guidelines" would be issued from Beijing under which new modus operandi for release of the funds would be described.

While the Chinese government had cited rampant graft as the reason behind halting funds to the three road projects, the EFSAS report argues that Beijing is "keen to give the Pakistani Army the lead role" in CPEC projects as it sees the armed forces as "the epicentre of power in Pakistan", whose involvement would guarantee the success of the flagship venture.

Further bolstering China's intent for a greater role for Pakistani military is the volatility of the country's civilian government, which witnessed the dismissal of Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on graft charges in recent months. But corruption is not the Chinese government's only concern.

"Had corruption been the reason behind the Chinese step (to block funds), it would, or perhaps should, have happened in July, when in the context of the Panama Papers, the former Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his relatives were charged with financial irregularities and corruption, which prompted the Pakistani Supreme Court to declare Nawaz Sharif 'unfit' for political office, resulting in his dismissal from the Office of the Prime Minister of the country," the report postulated.

The EFSAS analysis puts forth that Beijing has been alarmed by the opposition of Pakistani legislators, who have questioned the benefits of several projects under CPEC. Evidently, this has resulted in setbacks and delays which has not made Chinese investors happy.

"The Chinese are not used to such harsh disagreements which evidently would have made people in Beijing nervous over the future of its vital projects. Pakistan is a political volatile country where power is unevenly divided between the Government and the Military and a closer involvement of the Military on political issues would have desirable impacts for China...," the report said.

The involvement of the Pakistani Army would also mitigate some of China's security concerns, given that the nearly $50-billion flagship project passes through the region of Gilgit Baltistan, which links China's restive Xinjiang region with Pakistan's insurgency-torn Balochistan province, where in October, a Chinese workers' shelter at the Pakistani port of Gwadar was attacked.

So on one hand, the decision to halt funding may seem like a punitive measure by China to reassert control over the situation. At the same time, its favourable view of Pakistani military could play a significant role in deciding who will take ownership of the CPEC projects and by extension, the security situation - the civilian government or the army.

"The current deferral to release funds is temporary and China's way of conveying a diplomatic, yet strong, message to the Pakistanis; 'We will pay, but only on our terms'," the EFSAS report concludes.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 18:38

Peregrine-ji :
I see " some scrambled eggs" + a side order of "crisp golden bacon" as well :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 18:49

Peregrine wrote:X Posted on the Analyzing CPEC Thread

CPEC funds halted: China wants Pakistan army to take over projects?

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Peregrine- Ji:
Looks well and fine on paper . ! But what about the "corruption angle" ? Have the Chinis given a thought about the embedded corruption that is "part and parcel" of the Paki Fauj . The "lost" NATO containers, the export of Afghan heroin to self finance the Taliban. And the very recent. ! "Muscling" their way in the "management" of the Karachi Bakra Eid Cattle Market . They just outsourced the same to the civvies - "without doing a single thing" and just collected "commission", and in the process inflating the price of the slaughtered animals for the Aam Abduls :mrgreen:

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 19:03

Planned Depreciation Of Pakistani Rupee Not Enough As Per This International Analyst :mrgreen:

In talks with IMF, Pakistan agrees to depreciate rupee

ISLAMABAD: Amid a policy decision on Friday to allow rupee depreciation, Pakistan and an International Mone­tary Fund (IMF) delegation concluded the first round of discussions on the country’s economy. Now members of the IMF delegation and Pakistan team are taking a two-day break to prepare for the policy-level wrap-up by Dec 13-14.
A senior official told Dawn that the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) would now let the currency exchange rate to adjust to market conditions after many months, rather years, of resisting expectations
This calculated move allowed the currency rate to touch Rs110 to a dollar on Friday before settling down at around Rs107 and did not go beyond official estimates. The two weekend holidays would give a breathing space instead of over-steaming the exchange rate.

Leaving aside the rest, this is what is what has been commented upon by one informed observer :

Abraham De Rothschild ( Yahood conspiracy :roll: )
about 10 hours ago

We are a European, tax-advantaged, off shore hedge fund in Dubai and Abu Dhabi (U.A.E.). The current status on the Pakistani currency exchange risk-premiums are very bearish, per the Kiplinger Reports and the Barclays Middle Eastern Review.

The Pakistani Rupee vis a vis the US Dollar is trading at PKR 122 to a high of PKR 136 to a USD Dollar. Under this scenario, the planned depreciation or devaluation of less than 2% to PKR 107 or 109 .... is wholly inadequate, and considered not significant enough to attract more inwards conversions in foreign exchange. It will be noticeably insufficient for the International Monetary Fund safe haven- standards,

If Pakistan wants to get serious about tackling its required exchange shortfall, a larger haircut is preferable, in the near future, rather than stagflation in the long term.

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Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Peregrine » 09 Dec 2017 19:08

Peregrine wrote:X Posted on the Analyzing CPEC Thread

CPEC funds halted: China wants Pakistan army to take over projects?

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Falijee wrote:Peregrine- Ji:
Looks well and fine on paper . ! But what about the "corruption angle" ? Have the Chinis given a thought about the embedded corruption that is "part and parcel" of the Paki Fauj . The "lost" NATO containers, the export of Afghan heroin to self finance the Taliban. And the very recent. ! "Muscling" their way in the "management" of the Karachi Bakra Eid Cattle Market . They just outsourced the same to the civvies - "without doing a single thing" and just collected "commission", and in the process inflating the price of the slaughtered animals for the Aam Abduls :mrgreen:
Falijee Ji :
No Sir. Far be it from the Chinese any such intentions.

IMO, It is the Terroristani Army that has requested the Chinese so that the Terroristani Army can put Terroristan under the Heel of China as the Terroristani Army will not be hindered by the Politicians as well as by the Religious Hardliners thus the Chinese will have Total Control of the Country aka Paikhanastan!

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 19:11

What More Proof Is Needed That Pakistan Does Not Want Good Ties With India :D

Pakistani who called for warmer ties with India goes missing
Washington Post.
By Associated Press, Dec 8, 2017

LAHORE, Pakistan — A Pakistani human rights activist who has campaigned for friendly ties with India has gone missing in the eastern city of Lahore, his family said Friday.Raza Mahmood’s brother said the family suspects he was abducted and does not know who is holding him. The brother, Hamid Nasir, said he alerted police after Mahmood went missing earlier this week.Mahmood may have been detained by Pakistan’s intelligence service, which often targets people suspected of links to India.
The two nuclear-armed rivals have a long history of bitter relations, and have fought three wars since gaining independence from Britain in 1947.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 09 Dec 2017 20:33

Sindhi nationalists stage protest against 'settlement of foreigners'

Nationalist parties in Sindh on Saturday held a protest demonstration in Sukkur against what they called "settlement of foreigners in the province".
The demonstration was staged by Sindh Action Committee — constituted by the Jeay Sindh Muttahida Mahaz (JSMM)
A large number of workers of Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz (JSQM), Sindh Taraqipasand Party (STP), and other nationalist parties participated in the protest.
JSMM Chairman Riaz Chandio alleged that the settlement of "foreigners" in Sindh was ruining the province. He raised objection over the issuance of identity cards to "Bengalis, Burmese and other foreign settlers".
The protesters alleged that the government was only focused towards developing the Punjab province.


Key takeaways:
1. Anti-pakjab to the core - is pakjab accepting any "Bengalis, Burmese and other foreign settlers"?
2. "Others" include Mo-Hajirs?
3. JSMM & JSQM: Major separatist political parties in Sindh... believe in the separation of Sindhudesh from Pakistan.

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1375544/sindh ... foreigners

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 09 Dec 2017 20:40

Govt blocks 937 URLS, 98.3m SIMs under National Action Plan

Taking steps to prevent the use of internet and social media for terrorist activities, the Ministry of Information Technology has blocked 937 URLS and 10 websites run by banned organisations, it was learnt on Saturday.
41 of Pakistan’s 64 banned outfits are present on Facebook in the form of hundreds of pages, groups and individual user profiles.
Their network, both interconnected and public, is a mix of Sunni and Shia sectarian or terror outfits, global terror organisations operating in Pakistan, and separatists in Balochistan and Sindh.
In an effort to counter hate speech and extremist material, the government registered 1,351 cases, arrested 2,525 people and sealed 70 shops.
Pemra and other regulatory authorities were tasked with checking and banning glorification of terrorism and militant groups through print and electronic media.


The last time I checked, not all websites were taken down. Pakhanistan army and baki deaf & dumb websites are still up. I wonder if BRF site is accessible in bakistan?

https://www.dawn.com/news/1375535/govt- ... ction-plan

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby anupmisra » 09 Dec 2017 20:48

Jet fuel shortage on the horizon in Pakistan

The lack of planning and mismanagement in the oil sector that hampered the smooth functioning of refineries and caused fuel shortages in some parts in recent weeks appears to be moving towards jet fuels.
the oil industry was struggling to meet full requirement of the aviation and defence aircraft.
NOTAM – a situation where a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) is issued to alert aircraft pilots of potential hazards along a flight route or at a location that could affect the safety of the flight
imminent dry out is expected at Lahore airport by Dec 8/9, 2017 followed by Islamabad airport by Dec 11/12, 2017


A paki tayara could run out of fuel mid-flight??!! This has to be a Raa conspiracy.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1375390/jet-f ... n-pakistan

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 22:20

"Security Concerns" Leads To Cancellation Of International Conference At Karachi's Elite Business School :D

IBA embarrasses organizers by canceling international conference at the last minute, cites ‘security concerns

KARACHI – Organisers of an international conference were left in mental distress after authorities of Institute of Business Administration (IBA) barred them from holding the event just a few hours before the scheduled time, citing security reasons. Better to be "mentally stressed out ", IMO than deal with the aftermath of terrorist attack, in one of the most "dangerous cities on earth" :mrgreen:
“DigiConnect Conference” was scheduled for Saturday (today) in Karachi and supposed to take place at the IBA. In a Facebook post, the organizer of the international conference informed the participants as saying: “It is with the deepest regret that we have to inform you that our digi connect influencer marketing conference which was to be held on Saturday, December 09, 2017 has been cancelled”.
They said that the IBA administration informed them about the security reasons at 6:30pm on Friday just 12 hours before its start. They added that the preparations for the event had entered in final stages. IMO, Pakistan is not ready for "hosting" any international meet, unless it is held in the ISI HQ in Aabpara !
The notice was so late that “We had no option left but to individually inform our speakers, panelists and nearly 300 paid registered participants that we were canceling the event owing to circumstances beyond our control,” the post added. After announcing the cancellation, the organisers said: “We apologise for any inconvenience caused, however, everyone’s well-being and safety is our chief priority”.

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Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 22:27

India Rejects Pakistani Allegations Of Ceasefire Violations !

India opens fire along LoC only in response to incursion by Pakistan, claims Sushma Swaraj :D

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Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 22:43

Provincial cabinet asks centre not to issue permits for hunting in Balochistan :roll:

The Balochistan government has asked Islamabad not to issue permits for hunting in the province saying it is beyond the mandate of the federal government after the passage of the 18th Constitutional amendment.The Balochistan cabinet on Friday evening directed all 34 deputy commissioners of the province not to allow anyone to hunt in their respective districts. With Ganja- who is a "big fan of the Gulf Arabis" - gone, it may be possible to implement this drastic decision , but the repercussions may come in the shape of tightening of visa restrictions for Paki labour and /or stoppage of the aid spigot :mrgreen:
This decision has come a few days after security forces detained four Qatari nationals near the Pak-Afghan border in Noshki district on charges of illegal hunting. Five locals were also charged with collaborating with the foreigners for illegal hunting in the area. To be fair to the Pakis, this location is a "pretty sensitive area" where Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan meet . The last headache they want is an international incident ( Sheikhs are kidnapped by Balochi rebels and are threatened to be killed unless "demands" are met :mrgreen: !) which may draw international attention to the Baloch situation. Better safe than sorry. And in the process, the Houbara Bustard will get a reprieve this year :D

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Postby Peregrine » 09 Dec 2017 22:49

Food security

PAKISTAN is an arid and water-stressed country and, at the time of its birth, had hardly enough arable land and surface water resources to achieve food security. As a net importer of food, the spectre of famine hung over the country for almost a quarter century following independence. Cropping cycles were doubled only after tube wells were installed through multiple salinity control and reclamation programmes, the Mangla Dam and other associated water infrastructure were constructed, and a massive land-clearing and reclamation effort was undertaken. The area under cultivation saw an increase as did the yields through large-scale utilisation of modern inputs like urea fertiliser to lift the agrarian potential of the country and achieve food security by the early 1970s. That was no mean feat, and was quite possibly the single-largest accomplishment the young country had ever seen. The work put in during those days has stood the country in good stead every since, insulating us from commodity price shocks, and banishing the spectre of large-scale famine that would frequently afflict the region.

But all that is now changing, and faster than anyone can see. First we began to see widespread incidence of malnutrition, which had until now largely impacted the youngest children. Now the Food and Agriculture Organisation is telling us that the area under cultivation has stagnated at just around 25pc of the total land area of the country, and food output is not going to be able to keep pace with the rapid population increases we are registering. This means a return to the growing reliance on imports to meet domestic food needs, thereby rolling back the hard-fought gains of the quarter century following independence. Moreover, with dwindling water resources, further expansion is not possible. To top it off, as soil fertility is worsening, increasing yields is also becoming a growing challenge. This broad-based stagnation combined with growing pressure on land in peri-urban areas as agricultural land is cleared to meet the housing needs of expanding cities is aggravating the problem. The pressure to grow more nutritious food per unit of land is growing at an accelerating rate, putting unprecedented stress on future food security. Careful curation of our soil fertility, along with preservation and the ultimate expansion of our agricultural land, will require what the FAO calls a ‘comprehensive approach’. Given the urgency of the stakes involved, the time to start work on this is now.

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Postby Falijee » 09 Dec 2017 22:55

India should deploy Cheap Drones from Chahbar port into the Pakistani territory

Cheap drone invades pakistani Territory. Pakistan shoots down those drones with expensive missiles and rockets.
Pakistan's loss = Prophit.

If Iran - Pakistan ( ie Shia - Sunni ) "disagreements" escalate, ( as is expected thanks to Raheel !) Iran may well give "permission" to India to carry out this action as a counter measure ! Something for Indian strategics to "chew over" :mrgreen:

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Postby Peregrine » 10 Dec 2017 00:01

After debt repayments in coming months, SBP’s own net reserves will be a mere $4.5 billion

ISLAMABAD:Usable foreign currency reserves available with all commercial banks have slid to a mere $200 million, as the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) has swished away $5.8 billion as short-term loans in an attempt to give an artificial sense of stability to the currency market.

As of August this year, the central bank borrowed $5.81 billion from commercial banks under the forward and currency swap arrangements, according to data SBP released on Friday after a delay.

On November 13, the central bank had assured The Express Tribune that it would make public short-term borrowing data of up to October by the end of November.

It appears that due to the increasing size of short-term loans that the central bank is desperately taking to camouflage reduction in its own reserves, it released the data only till end-August.

This amount is also shown part of both the central bank and commercial banks’ reserves, according to sources.

As of November 2017, the SBP’s official foreign currency reserves were $12.66 billion including $5.8 billion worth of currency swaps and forward contracts. Despite showing $5.8 billion as part of its own reserves, the SBP has also included the same amount in the total $6.01 billion reserves held by commercial banks. Chor Chori Say Jaata Hai Hera Pheri Say NAHIN

By excluding $5.8 billion of short-term loans, the net usable reserves with the commercial banks stand at only $200 million. Out of $5.8 billion, $1.68 billion was obtained for one month, $2.46 billion for up to three months and $1.7 billion for up to one year, according to the SBP.

“This is clearly double counting of $5.8 billion. In principle, it should have excluded this sum from the commercial banks’ reserves,” said Dr Ashfaque Hasan Khan, former director general of Debt of Ministry of Finance.

In 1998, the then PML-N government had consumed foreign currency deposits of commercial banks after global powers imposed sanctions on Pakistan in retaliation to nuclear bomb explosions. However, to protect depositors’ reserves, the central bank had started separately reporting both the official and private currency reserves.

The SBP has been using precious foreign currency reserves to defend an artificial exchange rate that it finally adjusted by 1.4% on Friday. The Pak rupee-US dollar exchange rate in the interbank market closed at Rs107 as against Rs105.5 a day earlier.

“The exchange rate will continue to reflect the demand and supply conditions; and SBP stands ready to intervene, in case speculative and/or momentary pressures emerge, for smooth functioning of the foreign exchange markets,” announced the central bank on Friday.

But this announcement came only after the exit of former finance minister Ishaq Dar and amid pumping billions of dollars to defend the artificial exchange rate. The money that the central bank was losing to defend the exchange rate was being compensated by taking loans from commercial banks.

Sources said that the net foreign currency reserves of the central bank would stand close to $4.5 billion even after including $2.5 billion that Pakistan borrowed last month from international debt markets.

They said that the $5.8 billion amount has to be excluded from the SBP’s gross official reserves of $15.1 billion, which will bring down the reserves to $9.3 billion. Then another $4.8 billion have to be excluded on account of repayment of external debt in the coming months, they added. So Terroristan has ONLY FOREIGN RESERVES OF US$ 4.5 BILLION

The country is going to make bullet foreign debt repayments in the next couple of months, said the sources.

There was a massive increase in contracting short-term loans after the expiry of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme in September last year. During its three-year programme, the IMF had kept Pakistan under check by placing two main conditions. One was related to the Net International Reserves that is calculated by excluding the impact of currency swap loans. The other was on reducing the short-term loans obtained under currency swap arrangements.

When the IMF programme ended, the forward and currency swap-related obligations of the SBP amounted to $1.985 billion by June 2016. In a span of just 14 months, SBP’s exposure increased by 190%.

The country’s external sector remains under pressure due to exponential increase in trade deficit on back of declining exports and double-digit growth in imports. Pakistan’s current account deficit widened to $5.1 billion in just four months of this fiscal year, which was more than double than the previous year’s level.
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Postby Falijee » 10 Dec 2017 00:54

Nawaz Joins Khalida Zia In Saudi "Corruption List" :D

Saudi’s anti-corruption drive: Khaleda Zia, 4 other high-profile foreigners named
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A television channel based in the Middle East has recently unveiled that authorities in Saudi Arabia have found enormous amounts of illegally obtained wealth by local and foreign citizens including some former and current heads of governments from different countries. Allegations of accumulating unlawfully earned money and assets have been brought against five high-profile foreign nationals including former prime minister of Bangladesh Begum Khaleda Zia, current Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al Hariri and former prime minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif. Another two names were not revealed by the television channel. Reportedly these persons have amassed mammoth assets in Saudi Arabia and other parts of Middle East through money laundering, extortion, bribery and undue privileges by holding higher government posts in their respective countries. The next logical step would be confiscate their ill-gotten assets in Saudia - to recover the monies made corruptly . The second step would be declare them "persona-non-grata . No Umra, no Haj ( one of the five "pillars" of Malsi ) :mrgreen:


PS: The dirty work of "uncovering the dirty money" is being overseen by no less than the "brash, young " MBS under the "guiding hand" of Ex COAS of Paki Fauj,the namesake of Ganja- Raheel Sharif ! :D

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Postby Falijee » 10 Dec 2017 01:05

Sadiq Seeks To Deflect Awkward Movement With Quick Retort

BBC reporter creates awkward moment after asking Sadiq Khan 'does it feel like coming home?' during Pakistan trip :D
7 December 2017

A BBC reporter created an awkward moment when the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, gave a swift response after being asked if his visit to Pakistan was "like coming home." He was asked by BBC reporter Karl Mercer: "does it feel like coming home?" as he met local dignitaries in Wagah, on the Indian-Pakistan border. Swiftly, Mr Khan replied: "Home is south London mate. Sadiq "on his toes", quick to re-adopt his London persona. Cannot fault him though. He has been treated like a prodigal son "coming home" ! :mrgreen:
"But it’s good to be in Pakistan, it’s good to come from India - home of my parents and grandparents."The Mayor was born and raised in Tooting, South London.
During the trip he became the first ever London mayor to take a trade mission to both India and Pakistan.

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Postby Falijee » 10 Dec 2017 01:37

"TRACK THOO TALKS" IS ALIVE AND WELL AS PER THIS REPORT :mrgreen:
"Chai-biskoot time in Bangkok " ! (weather must be good this time in Bang- Cock :mrgreen: )

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Postby Falijee » 10 Dec 2017 01:53

"Lal Topi" Rages Against Bhutto- Zardari Clan In This "Deadly Tweet" :mrgreen:

Zaid Hamid‏Verified account @ZaidZamanHamid
Dec 5

#PPPGoldenjubilee
A half century old curse on Pakistan.
The founder broke Pakistan. His sons created the dreaded terrorist org Al-Zulfiqar. His daughter/son in law robbed Pakistan bone dry...his son & wife murdered by his son in law.
His grandsons are all transgenders... :shock:
And this is not all

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Have to agree with "Hamid" on this one though :mrgreen:
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Postby anupmisra » 10 Dec 2017 02:15

JSMM Chairman’s Speech in Frankfurt conference
JSMM: JSMM is a separatist political party in Sindh, Pakistan that believes in the freedom of Sindhudesh from Pakistan. Founded in 2000 by Shafi Muhammad Burfat and the other most active political workers of the Sindhudesh movement

https://jsmmsindh.com/leader-speak/jsmm ... onference/

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Postby anupmisra » 10 Dec 2017 02:19

JSMM calls for independence of ‘Pak-occupied historic’ nations as precursor to world peace

This conference demands an immediate removal of the Pakistani military cantonments from Sindh, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, and Kashmir.
This conference demands an immediate end to Pakistani military’s operations, atrocities, human rights violations and state torture in Sindh, Balochistan, Pashtunistan, and Kashmir.
The so-called “Two Nation Theory” that provided the basis for the partition of Indian Subcontinent in 1947 and creation of Pakistani Federation had been exterminated by the secession of Bengal (Former East Pakistan and Now Bangladesh) in 1971. Therefore, all the subjugated historic nation that are chained in the forced federation of Pakistan must be set free.
This conference demands international community to take a serious notice of Pakistani state’s covert support for the forced conversions and marriages of Sindhi Hindu Girls.
Speakers belonging to Balochistan, the PoK, Pashtunistan, the China-Occupied Xinjiang addressed the participants on the situation of human rights violations and the fascist atrocities of Pakistani and Chinese Imperialisms over the occupied nations of the region.


https://jsmmsindh.com/news/jsmm-calls-i ... rld-peace/

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Postby Peregrine » 10 Dec 2017 02:54

Falijee wrote: "TRACK THOO TALKS" IS ALIVE AND WELL AS PER THIS REPORT :mrgreen:
"Chai-biskoot time in Bangkok " ! (weather must be good this time in Bang- Cock :mrgreen: )
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In Thailand!

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Postby Peregrine » 10 Dec 2017 03:24

Jinnah’s prerogatives – Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed

Jinnah enjoyed unique power and authority and thus unique prerogatives. He could make decisions and appointments which other Pakistani leaders would have hesitated to

I fully understand the concern of a whole range of intellectuals representing an assortment of liberals and leftists who steadfastly and heroically keep writing that Jinnah was a secularist, he wanted Pakistan to be a secular state or at least an inclusive Muslim state. As far as an inclusive Muslim state is concerned they are right to a point, but they are dead wrong when they assert that Jinnah was a secularist or that he wanted Pakistan to be a secular state.

A secularist being defined in terms of a western life style and unorthodox dietary habits is a lose and poor use of the term and concept of secularism. Secularism is a political term which means a separation of religion and state. Except for the 11 August 1947 speech which can reasonably and legitimately be read as one based on secularism there is no such vision or argument in what he said before that day or afterwards that suggests that Hindus and Muslims can be equal citizens of Pakistan. Therefore, one sunny day does not make a summer or more accurately one swallow does not make a summer. In other words, exceptions are not the rule.

I would like to propose an alternative perspective on Jinnah: he enjoyed unique power and authority and thus unique prerogatives. He could make decisions and appointments which other Pakistan leaders would have hesitated to do. The Hindu Dalit Joginder Nath Mandal was appointed law minister because Dr Ambedkar was made India’s law minister. However, whereas Ambedkar became the chairman of the Constitution Drafting Committee and his stamp on that constitution is profound and lasting Mandal was given no such task. After Jinnah Mandal was ignored and finally he resigned. He wrote a letter that Hindus in East Bengal were being persecuted and his community of Dalits was being ignored so he left for India.

Sir Zafrulla enjoyed Jinnah’s trust and in my book, The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed (Oxford University Press), I have shown that he pleaded Pakistan’s case before the Punjab Boundary Commission with sterling competence. He received compliments from Congress counsel Mr Setalvad for his excellent performance. I have the testimony of Syed Ahmed Saeed Kirmani (Sunni) and Syed Afzal Haider (Shia) that Zafrulla was outstanding.

So, Jinnah made him Pakistan’s foreign minister. May I dare also add that Zafrulla had powerful backing from the British and possibly US administrations. Pakistan was at that time a British Dominion. Later, Khawaja Nazimuddin was reported saying that if he removed Zafrulla the Americans would stop the supply of US aid including food aid which was badly needed. This is reported by Chaudhary Khaliquzzaman in his book, Pathway to Pakistan.

I can give another example to show that Jinnah’s prerogatives were not without limits, however. During the first Kashmir war Jinnah in October 1947 as Governor-General Jinnah ordered the Pakistan military to intervene in Kashmir directly, but officiating Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army General Gracey refused to comply with his orders (General Messervy the C-in-C was on leave in England). Normally, Gracey should have been court-martialled or at least dismissed. However, the opposite happened: in February 1948 he was instead promoted as C-in-C of the Pakistan Army! The reason must be that such appointments were still being decided from outside Pakistan: by the British I presume. I describe this in my book, Pakistan: The Garrison State (Oxford University Press).

Unlike his call for Pakistan in 1940 which received support from broad sections of society Jinnah’s 11 August speech only created confusion. In the Pakistan myth-making factories it is said that Chaudhri Muhammad Ali and Liaqat Ali Khan conspired to have that speech removed from public discussion. The truth is that till at least June 1948 Jinnah was very much Pakistan’s all-powerful leader who presided over cabinet meetings and made appointments, dismissed elected governments and took many other such decisions. How could his speech be suppressed by his subordinates without his acquiescence? It is an afterthought which our liberal-left has conjured up but without any credibility. The truth is that Jinnah and his associates must have found that speech too radical a departure from the raison d’etre of Pakistan and a decision was taken not to propagate it any more.

Nevertheless, it is perfectly understandable that Jinnah was not in favour of a Muslim state which institutionalises comprehensive discrimination of minorities and he thought that Pakistan could be an inclusive type of Muslim state. The 11 August 1947 speech can be read as a peculiar variation of that same idea: of an inclusive Muslim state.

The truth is that the 1,400 years of Islamic history, theology and law show that whereas scope has existed for religious communities recognised by the Quran as people of the book — Christians, Jews and a nearly-extinct group called Sabians to live in a Muslim state peacefully — no scope exists for religious groups emerging from within the broad Islamic faith which call into question the finality of the prophet hood of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). In 19th century the Bahai faith emerged in Iran and in the subcontinent Ahmadiyyat. The Bahais broke away from Islam claiming they were not Muslims but a separate religion. Persecution of Bahais in Iran has been even worse than of Ahmadis in Pakistan. Under Khomeini Bahais were killed in very large numbers. In the subcontinent Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be a prophet receiving revelation from God. The Sunni and Shia reaction followed soon after and the rest of that history is well known.

Now, Jinnah could use his prerogative and appoint Zafrulla as foreign minister but with him that prerogative ended. Zafrulla could survive some years more as foreign minister more, but the majority will finally prevail and they were declared non-Muslims in 1974. It was no quirk of history: it was inherent in a state based on belief in Islam. Obviously in a united India it would not be possible.

In my next article I shall be arguing that the Objectives Resolution is no betrayal of Jinnah but the correct position of what Pakistan can offer to its minorities.

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Re: Terroristan - 29 September 2017

Postby Vips » 10 Dec 2017 04:13

Falijee wrote: "TRACK THOO TALKS" IS ALIVE AND WELL AS PER THIS REPORT :mrgreen:
"Chai-biskoot time in Bangkok " ! (weather must be good this time in Bang- Cock :mrgreen: )

Mehr Tarar Retweeted
Jalil Abbas Jilani‏ @JalilJilani
23h23 hours ago

Jalil Abbas Jilani Retweeted Jinnah Institute

Happy to be part of Chaophraya Dialogue ( Pakistan India track 2) in Bangkok. Candid and Frank exchange of views among Pakistani and Indian participants made it interesting and productive

Under the auspices of the "DJinnah Institute" !

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Jalil Abbas Jilani, Happymon Jacob, SenatorSherryRehman and 6 others

Apart from few, not sure who is who


Most of the Pakistani assh**es in the photo are rabid anti-india mullahs, there are numerous You Tube videos of all the Paki Talk shows where one can see how vile they are. Majority of the Track Thoo participants from India are power brokers and influence peddlers and would not think twice before selling India for a First Class air ticket and 5 star hotel jambooree.

Siddarth Varadarajan is a classic example.BTW what is Siddarth who is a US citizen doing in an Indo-Pak meet?

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Postby Vips » 10 Dec 2017 04:21

Falijee wrote:Nawaz Joins Khalida Zia In Saudi "Corruption List" :D

Saudi’s anti-corruption drive: Khaleda Zia, 4 other high-profile foreigners named
Asian Age Online
A television channel based in the Middle East has recently unveiled that authorities in Saudi Arabia have found enormous amounts of illegally obtained wealth by local and foreign citizens including some former and current heads of governments from different countries. Allegations of accumulating unlawfully earned money and assets have been brought against five high-profile foreign nationals including former prime minister of Bangladesh Begum Khaleda Zia, current Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al Hariri and former prime minister of Pakistan Nawaz Sharif. Another two names were not revealed by the television channel. Reportedly these persons have amassed mammoth assets in Saudi Arabia and other parts of Middle East through money laundering, extortion, bribery and undue privileges by holding higher government posts in their respective countries. The next logical step would be confiscate their ill-gotten assets in Saudia - to recover the monies made corruptly . The second step would be declare them "persona-non-grata . No Umra, no Haj ( one of the five "pillars" of Malsi ) :mrgreen:




PS: The dirty work of "uncovering the dirty money" is being overseen by no less than the "brash, young " MBS under the "guiding hand" of Ex COAS of Paki Fauj,the namesake of Ganja- Raheel Sharif ! :D


Had he been in any position of significance Rawheel would have tried his best to protect Khaleda Zia's name from coming out. Khaleda is owned lock stock and barrel by the ISI/Jamaat combine and she actively helps them in the ant-india dirty work that is carried from Bangladesh. Pakistan desperately needs Khaleda to come to Power to regain their foothold and advantage vis-a-vis India.


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