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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 11 Mar 2020 11:23

ramana wrote:Please read and digest this economic analysis:

https://m.economictimes.com/markets/exp ... 551227.cms


Very good interview with lots of insight. Sort of positiveness we want to see around in these gloomy days.
Personally I have been on the buying spree in stock market since Corona hit us. Boom or Bust by Dec'2020.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 11 Mar 2020 11:27

chetak wrote:
Sachin wrote:For all you know the Abdullahs may 'encourage' Pilot through his wifey to join the BJP camp if that would get them some leverage on messing up Kashmir valley again. :twisted: .



I think that the abdullahs and the muftis are done for now. They themselves have not challenged their detentions because the extensive properties they own in cashmere and also abroad, notably in the UK, all acquired using money stolen from the exchequer as well as "contributions" from the ISI.

The list, one understands, is so extensive that even the perfidious jehadis will find it difficult to digest, much less forgive the massive looting that has taken place on a pandemic scale.

so the muftis have taken to speaking through their daughters on twitter or the abdullahs getting some sort of habeas corpus petition filed through their estranged daughter sarah pilot whose marriage they did not even attend.


Sachin Pilot is married into Abdullah family while Scindias sister is married into erstwhile royal family of Karan Singh (She is DIL of Karan Singh).

Mufti baby is done for sure though I am not too sure about Omar. He still has age on his side as well deep rooted political connections across J&K and rest of India. If I am recall correctly, he did pretty well as Junior MoEA during ABV govt. Surprisingly Unlike Mufti clan, there is not extreme dislike about Abdullahs in J&K as well outside.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Yagnasri » 11 Mar 2020 12:03

Omar also overground soft Jihadi just like his Papa and Grand Papa. In any event there is deep dislike in non secular crowd on any erstwhile J&K State politicos. He is not any exception to that feeling. He also made some horrible statements along with his papa. So no one going to like them anytime soon. Of course urban naxals and left loonies are an except to all that. These loonees have no votes. If he want to contest elections with any political outfit in other parts of India then he was to come to terms with UT status of his place and adjust to non 370/35A situation. Once he does then he has nothing else to move with his Jihadi backers.

If they want to contest elections - what they are going to promise to people? Statehood? Return of 370? No one going to believe both families even in J&K because of all the looting and big mouth statements on 370 will be eternal etc etc. By all the accounts people the J&K loath them. Only 2% 3% of their own people to vote and there was no opposition to them under an umbrella of 370. Now with delimitation underway and also with all new residents/voters they are in for a very hard time to come back to power.

They may in the end do comeback to power. But the good times are over.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 11 Mar 2020 12:21

https://twitter.com/SalmanSoz/status/12 ... 6705964033
Salman Anees Soz @SalmanSoz

If the CAA says “persecuted minorities”, that would be excellent. Do Ahmadis or Hazaras (for example) not deserve compassion under CAA? Are they not persecuted? Why leave them out? Don’t just read others. Apply your mind. Think.

In Salman Soz's view CAA reference to "minorities" or "other minorities" would be excellent because it would allow them (Peaceful/Liberandu/Court) to create a path for "Ahmadis or Hazaras" now and perhaps other muslims like Shia or Barelvis later. Nice!

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Yagnasri » 11 Mar 2020 12:32

and Salafis and so on.Entire Paki people are persecuted by Bharat and Bania Hindus. So they all can leave paki land and come to India and enjoy life.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Manish_Sharma » 11 Mar 2020 12:46

rajsunder wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:^is Pilot married to omar Abdullah's sister OR Sindhia?

Was married. Recently divorced.


Omar Abdullah was also married to sachin pilot's sister. It is Omar who divorced his wife not sachin pilot.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dipak » 11 Mar 2020 13:12

Manish_Sharma wrote:
rajsunder wrote:Was married. Recently divorced.


Omar Abdullah was also married to sachin pilot's sister. It is Omar who divorced his wife not sachin pilot.

No. Sarika, sister of Sachin Pilot is married to Vishal Chowdhar. Both are married happily.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Vikas » 11 Mar 2020 14:43

Manish_Sharma wrote:
rajsunder wrote:Was married. Recently divorced.


Omar Abdullah was also married to sachin pilot's sister. It is Omar who divorced his wife not sachin pilot.


Omar was married to Payal (no relation of any political family) and I believe they got divorced last year. As per rumors, OA wants to marry Nidhi, anchorperson on NDTV.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 15:36

Vikas wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:
Omar Abdullah was also married to sachin pilot's sister. It is Omar who divorced his wife not sachin pilot.


Omar was married to Payal (no relation of any political family) and I believe they got divorced last year. As per rumors, OA wants to marry Nidhi, anchorperson on NDTV.


meanwhile, every jehadi is offering his sister's hand/own hand in marriage to omar the abdullah.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Yagnasri » 11 Mar 2020 16:15

This is one of the best jokes of the day.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/madhya- ... ia-2193070

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 16:24

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 17:17

darbaris and house negros

they don't know if/when their next payment will come. :mrgreen:





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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Mollick.R » 11 Mar 2020 17:31

1. Sachin Pilot is married to Sara Abdullah Pilot, sister of Omar Abdullah.

2. Omar Abdullah is/ was married to Payal Nath. Payel Nath is daughter a retired army officer, Major General Ram Nath.
On September 2011, Omar confirmed that he and his wife have separated.

3. Sarika Pilot is sister of Sachin Pilot. Sarika Pilot is married with Vishal Chaudhary.


Ref links.

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/who-is-sara-pilot-all-you-need-to-know-about-omars-sister-and-sachin-pilots-wife

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Omar-Abdullah-divorcing-wife-after-17-years/articleshow/9989687.cms?referral=PM

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/delhi-times/For-Sarika-where-there-is-a-grill-there-is-a-way/articleshow/1362164666.cms

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/Vvrma4WgMubpefSSJA3rxI/The-business-interests-of-Sachin-Pilot.html

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 17:34

Press Trust of India @PTI_News
#MadhyaPradesh CM Kamal Nath calls cabinet meeting at Bhopal residence & it is expected to begin shortly, hours after Congress leader Jyotiraditya Scindia & at least 17 MLAs who are believed to be supporting him suddenly became 'incommunicado'
9:52 PM · Mar 9, 2020

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sicanta » 11 Mar 2020 19:06

https://twitter.com/nalinisharma_/statu ... 63233?s=19

Meenakshi Lekhi in Parliament: “I say make the IB reports of the judges public so that everyone can know why a certain judge has been transferred”. #JusticeMuralidhar

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Yagnasri » 11 Mar 2020 19:07

See the entire speech. Makes very good consolidation of what INC and BIF has done. Starting from Soros to AK.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 19:26

gita gopinath made an utterly irresponsible statement two months back, on how India needs to adhere to a tight fiscal roadmap

Today, when the US fed is toying with the idea of cutting Rates to Zero or even negative if the need arises, aunty gopinath, is nicely playing along. She certainly won't want to take on the might of the US, especially at the IMF but pore old India is OK for her to piss on.

BTW, is any customs duty required to be paid on that nasal accent of hers.

The twitter comment is barsaati economist, truly cast in the shampoo boy 3R mold

her thankfully short interview is just so much vacuous fulmination and of no practical import.



https://twitter.com/economics/status/1237092894521073664
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sumeet » 11 Mar 2020 19:29

Yagnasri wrote:See the entire speech. Makes very good consolidation of what INC and BIF has done. Starting from Soros to AK.


Where is the speech, I scrolled and couldn't find one ?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Manish_Sharma » 11 Mar 2020 19:39

TWITTER:

Nalini@nalinisharma_ :
Meenakshi Lekhi in Parliament: “I say make the IB reports of the judges public so that everyone can know why a certain judge has been transferred”. #JusticeMuralidhar

https://twitter.com/nalinisharma_/statu ... 63233?s=19

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 19:55

Priyanka Vadra Did Not Own The Rs 2 Crore Painting She Sold To Yes Bank’s Rana Kapoor: Report


The plot continues to thicken over money laundering accused Yes Bank founder Rana Kapoor purchasing a Rs 2 crore M F Husain painting from Congress General Secretary Priyanka Vadra.

Now, news reports have claimed that the Rajiv Gandhi portrait sold by Priyanka Vadra was not owned by her, but was actually the property of the All India Congress Committee (AICC).

As per a News18 report, Enforcement Directorate (ED) has claimed that Vadra did not own the painting which she ended up selling to Kapoor in 2010. It adds that the Certificate of Provenance for the painting - a key document in determining the painting’s authenticity was signed by Vadra instead of the painter Husain (as is the norm)
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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 20:07

Yagnasri wrote:See the entire speech. Makes very good consolidation of what INC and BIF has done. Starting from Soros to AK.



the short and the long versions




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpP35QiKZxs


Adhir Ranjan Chowdhury Vs Meenakshi Lekhi over Delhi violence in Lok Sabha







https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1MJ38xz3Es


Smt Meenakshi Lekhi raises a discussion on recent law & order situation in some parts of Delhi in LS



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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Suraj » 11 Mar 2020 20:20

pankajs wrote:https://twitter.com/SalmanSoz/status/1237354916705964033
Salman Anees Soz @SalmanSoz

If the CAA says “persecuted minorities”, that would be excellent. Do Ahmadis or Hazaras (for example) not deserve compassion under CAA? Are they not persecuted? Why leave them out? Don’t just read others. Apply your mind. Think.

In Salman Soz's view CAA reference to "minorities" or "other minorities" would be excellent because it would allow them (Peaceful/Liberandu/Court) to create a path for "Ahmadis or Hazaras" now and perhaps other muslims like Shia or Barelvis later. Nice!

This is why CAA doesn’t do that . When you frame a law you make sure:
1. It passes legal muster
2. It can’t be diluted to pervert its meaning

Indian citizenship law is FULL of restrictions placed on account of partition . Those with TSP/BD ancestors cannot get OCI . They cannot easily get visa and citizenship path is not easy . CAA implements a limited transfer of population deal by letting non-Muslim illegals from countries affected by partition become Indians fast . Even though it’s the first time female t explicitly states religion , the de facto meaning of citizenship law for 60 years has been to bar Muslims, who are the ones most likely to have TSP/BD family today .

Considering this was one of Jaitleys last efforts I’m sure he thought this through.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 20:25

Meenakshi Lekhi BJP replying to Adhir Ranjan Chowdhury in LS- “If you are going to allege that Mussolini was Hedgewar’s inspiration then let me remind you, the maternal grandfather of the person sitting behind you worked in Mussolini’s army”. (Cong benches don’t rise in protest)

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby isubodh » 11 Mar 2020 20:33

Not sure this was posted earlier or not. But good article analyzing the majority never gets its side fo the story across as do minorities.
https://www.livemint.com/opinion/columns/why-a-majority-s-story-often-fails-to-convince-the-world-11583679969446.html

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 11 Mar 2020 20:44

Also folks do some research instead of demand links here.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kakkaji » 11 Mar 2020 20:49

vijayk wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:^is Pilot married to omar Abdullah's sister OR Sindhia?



Pilot


IIRC they are divorced. Apparently our boy had a roving eye (and more :wink: )

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby dsreedhar » 11 Mar 2020 20:55

The Long term visa has similar consideration as CAA. It has special provision of LTV for the same set of countries (Pak Afghan and Bdesh) and same set of religions.
https://mha.gov.in/PDF_Other/AnnexVI_01022018.pdf

When was this framed and by who? What is the thought process in it? If LTV was/is okay then why issue with CAA legally or otherwise?
I asked this before on here but did not get a response. May be lost in the ton of posts here. Can anyone shed some light on it?

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby ramana » 11 Mar 2020 20:57

Ok!
Enough Lets Move on (ELMO)
No more about Pilot or Abdullah.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby pankajs » 11 Mar 2020 21:09

https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/1237613528061595653
Press Trust of India @PTI_News

ED files money laundering case against suspended AAP councillor Tahir Hussain, PFI in connection with Delhi riots: Officials

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Suraj » 11 Mar 2020 21:16

dsreedhar wrote:The Long term visa has similar consideration as CAA. It has special provision of LTV for the same set of countries (Pak Afghan and Bdesh) and same set of religions.
https://mha.gov.in/PDF_Other/AnnexVI_01022018.pdf

When was this framed and by who? What is the thought process in it? If LTV was/is okay then why issue with CAA legally or otherwise?
I asked this before on here but did not get a response. May be lost in the ton of posts here. Can anyone shed some light on it?

The LTV is offered only to the people of the same origin who also benefit from CAA, but CAA regularizes those who are present illegally. Visas are for people taking the legal route. This group of people are explicitly identified in both:
Members of minority communities in Pakistan/Bangladesh/Afghanistan, namely, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains, Parsis and Christians.

Those who come to India legally and want a fast track to citizenship use LTV. Those already present illegally use CAA.

The existing Citizenship of India Act and India visa laws restrict rights to those with Pakistani (for political purposes TSP and Afghanistan are seen as a contiguous past entity) or Bangladeshi ancestry. A person born in Canada or UK with at least one TSP parent, cannot get OCI. Aatish Taseer failed this test, having originally omitted his daddy info and later MEA fixed it by taking away his OCI. Similarly foreign nationals or TSP/BD citizens with ancestry there cannot get an eVisa - they have tedious 1-3 month waits with potential in person interviews. In effect it places restrictions by place of birth and ancestry, on a foreign national.

This applied to everyone with such ancestry. What CAA and the above LTV clarification does is ensure these restrictions are explicitly applied only in case of Muslims, not those whom India interprets as the victims of partition from an Indian perspective. Indian citizenship law has always made it harder for anyone with TSP/BD background. These two clarifications ensure that these restrictions remain only for Muslims, because the practical basis of partition was that Muslims were not stateless regardless of choice (India or TSP), whereas non-Muslims could be stateless. Originally, Nehru and Gandhi refused to accept a CAA-like measure because they argued that non-Muslims would be safe in TSP/BD. What CAA does it formalize a disagreement with a past choice.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kakkaji » 11 Mar 2020 21:34

Saw a report in the Dainik Jagran this morning (can't find it now) that 3 associates (with names listed) of Tahir Hussain who were seen with him on the day of riots, have been arrested by Delhi Police.

Eyewitnesses have also confirmed that through out that day, Tahir Hussain was seen roaming around on his roof with a lathi in his hand.

While the evidence against Tahir and associates is solid, I am afraid he will eventually get bail and then drag the case out in the courts, given that he has a lot of money and political backing. :(

In other news, Amit Shah has stated in Parliament that those who have damaged public property will be made to pay for the damage by seizure of their property.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby banrjeer » 11 Mar 2020 22:06

isubodh wrote:Not sure this was posted earlier or not. But good article analyzing the majority never gets its side fo the story across as do minorities.
https://www.livemint.com/opinion/columns/why-a-majority-s-story-often-fails-to-convince-the-world-11583679969446.html


The othering of heathen is deep rooted. I don’t think If roles were reversed that non-Muslims would be given the same latitude.

Islam is a recipient of colonial guilt and they have worked to cultivate that status, so you can gun down Australian Aboriginals and Native americans but as long as you are good to Muslims you are free of colonial guilt.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Kati » 11 Mar 2020 22:10

Vikas wrote:
Manish_Sharma wrote:
Omar Abdullah was also married to sachin pilot's sister. It is Omar who divorced his wife not sachin pilot.


Omar was married to Payal (no relation of any political family) and I believe they got divorced last year. As per rumors, OA wants to marry Nidhi, anchorperson on NDTV.

Yes, this is correct. OA also expressed his liking for Tabu a few years ago openly which made Tabu blush.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 22:21

Kati wrote:
Vikas wrote:
Omar was married to Payal (no relation of any political family) and I believe they got divorced last year. As per rumors, OA wants to marry Nidhi, anchorperson on NDTV.

Yes, this is correct. OA also expressed his liking for Tabu a few years ago openly which made Tabu blush.


looks like the guy can barely keep it in his pants :mrgreen:

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Rsatchi » 11 Mar 2020 22:22

Wonder whether this is tit-fot-tat for the MP debacle :D
https://www.news18.com/news/politics/so ... 33743.html
Expect some tamasha in the coming days
DKS will attempt something

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 22:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQeuNucK1ec



'Abrogating Article 370 will need 1000 people killed': Ex-Guv J-K quotes Chief Secy

Mar 11, 2020





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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby chetak » 11 Mar 2020 22:58

Rsatchi wrote:Wonder whether this is tit-fot-tat for the MP debacle :D
https://www.news18.com/news/politics/so ... 33743.html
Expect some tamasha in the coming days
DKS will attempt something


the ED has not only his testimonials in a lock but also that of the mafia family.

he will only be able swing his d!(k locally and when yeddy leaves, he aims to go out with a flourish so yeddy has little tolerance for congi cowboys.

yeddy will start with siddaramiah, now that the congis have sidelined him.

kj george is also in very deep doo doo.

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Re: 2020 Strategic and Political Analysis-1

Postby Sicanta » 11 Mar 2020 23:27

https://twitter.com/rvaidya2000/status/ ... 17761?s=19

Prof R Vaidyanathan - Talk at IISC by a professor on male/female sex ratio/polygamy based on an MIT publication cancelled-It was claimed to be islamophobic-We have reached a situation where no talk/discussion allowed on Sex ratio/polygamy-MHRD is responsible for this state of affairs @narendramodi


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