+1Vips wrote:If you must watch programs of Hindu phobic channels/platforms or of any pseudo Bollywood actors and directors then please watch it through downloads or from pirated sources. Do not use pay channels/buy theatre tickets and enrich these anti dharmic b a s t a r d s.
The oxymoronic left-liberals do not have a problem when the Islamists refuse treatment or immunisation drives because it is “Haram” and in fact try to justify the demand for Halal vaccines and medicines by equating it to fundamental right to practice Islam. But the same ill-liberal liberals have a problem when Sanatanis seek ban on use of beef and beef products in India as it hurts Hindu religious sensibilities, the commies go to the extent of holding Beef-parties to provoke Hindus. By the way, many research studies[1] have stated that, “popular red meat (beef) requires 28 times more land to produce than pork or chicken, 11 times more water and results in five times more climate-warming emissions”. Despite these scientific evidences and religious sentiments, the fibrals would have us believe in India that Beef is very wholesome while pork is Haram. Now the fibrals would also justify the Islamists stand against Covid-19 vaccines at the cost of disrupting global immunization campaigns and holding the whole world to Halal ransom by insisting Muslims should have the right to reject Covid-19 vaccination.
Know why Muslim countries are concerned about Covid-19 vaccines and why is 'Halal certification' important?
Maulana Khalid Rashid Firangi Mahali, a Muslim leader in UP, has advised people of his community to receive the vaccine instead of falling to rumours.
Shampa Sen
Dec 22, 2020,
With the world fighting the coronavirus pandemic and pharma companies are in the race to develop COVID-19 vaccine, Muslim countries around the world have raised concerns regarding the use of pork-gelatin in these vaccines. These concerns comes in the wake of pork-derived gelatin, being widely used as a stabilizer in vaccines to ensure that they remain safe and effective during storage and transport, Associated Press reported.
How the question arose?
The concerns were first raised by the Muslim clerics of Indonesia when Indonesian diplomats were about to finalise Covid vaccine deals with China, to ensure millions of doses reached Indonesian citizen. The clerics had a concern whether the Covid-19 vaccine was permissible for use under Islamic law.
Pork-derived gelatin has been widely used as a stabilizer to ensure vaccines remain safe and effective during storage and transport. However, some companies have worked for years to develop pork-free vaccines. Swiss pharmaceutical company Novartis has produced a pork-free meningitis vaccine, while Saudi and Malaysia-based AJ Pharma is currently working on one of their own.
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Why pork-gelatin is important for vaccines?
Dr Salman Waqar, General Secretary of the British Islamic Medical Association, however believes that demand, existing supply chains, cost and the shorter shelf life of vaccines not containing porcine gelatin means the ingredient is likely to continue to be used in a majority of vaccines for years.
Spokespeople for Pfizer, Moderna and AstraZeneca have said that pork products are not part of their Covid-19 vaccines. But limited supply and preexisting deals worth millions of dollars with other companies means that some countries with large Muslim populations, such as Indonesia will receive vaccines that have not yet been certified to be gelatin-free.
Indian cleric's stand
Meanwhile, Maulana Khalid Rashid Firangi Mahali, a Muslim leader in Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, has advised people of his community to receive the vaccine instead of involving themselves to be a part of any rumour.
This is specially a problem with Orthodox Jews and Muslims who do not consume pork products and hence how this ban applies to medicines.
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"There’s a difference of opinion amongst Islamic scholars as to whether you take something like pork gelatin and make it undergo a rigorous chemical transformation,"Associated Press quoted Dr Salman Waqar. "Is that still considered to be religiously impure for you to take?"
The majority consensus from past debates over pork gelatin use in vaccines is that it is permissible under Islamic law, as 'greater harm' would occur if the vaccines weren't used, said Dr Harunor Rashid, an associate professor at the University of Sydney, as per AP.
What Orthodox Jewish community has to say?
There’s a similar assessment by a broad consensus of religious leaders in the Orthodox Jewish community as well. "According to the Jewish law, the prohibition on eating pork or using pork is only forbidden when it's a natural way of eating it," said Rabbi David Stav, chairman of Tzohar, a rabbinical organization in Israel.
"If it's injected into the body, not through the mouth, then there is no prohibition and no problem, especially when we are concerned about sicknesses," he said.
It’s better to go to these platforms and downvote the content. Mass reporting is also effective instead of side stepping the issue.Vips wrote:If you must watch programs of Hindu phobic channels/platforms or of any pseudo Bollywood actors and directors then please watch it through downloads or from pirated sources. Do not use pay channels/buy theatre tickets and enrich these anti dharmic b a s t a r d s.
Thanks for the response. Makes sense. What about the interest on given farm loans?nandakumar wrote:The commission income is a business income like stock broking is. So it is liable to be taxed under income tax law. The problem is that the business is entirely based on cash. Secondly if the Arthiyas are absentee landlords themselves then lease rent that they receive from cultivators is agricultural income and hence can be taxed only by the State governments. Tax on agricultural income is a State subject under the Constitution.dsreedhar wrote:Do the Arhtiyas have to pay any income tax or considered as agricultural income and exempt?
m_saini wrote:+1Vips wrote:If you must watch programs of Hindu phobic channels/platforms or of any pseudo Bollywood actors and directors then please watch it through downloads or from pirated sources. Do not use pay channels/buy theatre tickets and enrich these anti dharmic b a s t a r d s.
I always tell my non-indian friends that bollywood is full of hindu nationalists so don't buy their movies etc it resonates extremely well
good one.Good one, I like reverse piskom_saini wrote: +1
I always tell my non-indian friends that bollywood is full of hindu nationalists so don't buy their movies etc it resonates extremely well
. (in private), unfortunately, some misguided Indian wrote a comment to set her straight. Why, I ask? Use their ignorance to your advantage.+1008sudarshan wrote:Why, I ask? Use their ignorance to your advantage.
Thanks. Whether a COVID death or not, good riddance to another pest. Hope the goremint can actually put some of these scamsters in the slammer before they die.arvin wrote: Both AP and MV passing away in close succession.
Two major losses to congress linked to Xi Virus.
I can suggest a long line of the very deservingKL Dubey wrote:Thanks. Whether a COVID death or not, good riddance to another pest. Hope the goremint can actually put some of these scamsters in the slammer before they die.arvin wrote: Both AP and MV passing away in close succession.
Two major losses to congress linked to Xi Virus.
india acc. to commies:chetak wrote:shampoo boy tharoor and his childish games
tharoor has been reduced to this; from once being an imagined contender for pappu's puppet PM's post, (al a remote controlled MMS model) along with the other shampoo boy contender raghuram rajan.
the BJP's performance in his thiruvananthapuram constituency seems to have seriously unnerved him.
May find the going very tough, come the next general elections
Shashi Tharoor@ShashiTharoor
Received today. Seems pretty acute about our ruling party’s prejudices!
and the response
love jihad is a fact, the name, however, may be different in different parts of the country.nvishal wrote:Conquest of women(aka love jihad), resources and territory is a core practice of many cultures outside India. The two cultures clashed together several times throughout history and their practices have been imbibed by many Indian castes. Their is no other choice. Respond in "their" language or get mowed down. Unfortunately.
Dowry is a tool to keep resources within the family. It has very little to do with women themselves.
Unfortunately this myth has been perpetuated because the fake liberal sickular historians could not erase shivaji legacy etc. New historians without bias like here will make you rethink both the premisesshravanp wrote:It's still laughable on how some posters are still thinking or hoping on the lines of aggressive posturing w.r.t peacefools is the way to go, and that Hindu leaders having no vision is the root of problems. Looking back at history, just a few people stood up to Islamic onslaught (Rajputs/Marathas/Sikhs)
shravanp wrote: Looking back at history, just a few people stood up to Islamic onslaught (Rajputs/Marathas/Sikhs). I haven't read of anyone else tackling that nuisance head on.
Err.. why was it not going to happen exactly, when it was Muslims themselves who demanded 1/3 of India's land separate from Hindus where they could all settle and form a country of their own?shravanp wrote:Even repatriating them to Pakistan during 1947 is also folly because it simply wasn't gonna happen.
Has this happened in any country in the world till now? What kind of a solution is this?shravanp wrote:The only way out is Chankian way (which is way beyond my pay grade). Controlling their madarsas, indigenizing them, removal of Arabic influences, make it native. Similarly do the same with Xianity. They should be forced to severe their allegiance to Vatican and be forced to have their appointments be done within Bharat.
AMC demolishes encroachment of religious place constructed illegally on TP road
https://www.deshgujarat.com/2020/12/22/ ... n-tp-road/
IndraD wrote:
shot from Shahjahaan upcoming film of Akshay Kr & Sara Ali Khan. In spite of films bombing money is endless
OfCom: The secretive govt censor that has fined the UK affiliate of Republic Bharat. Why people are rejoicing and what it means
When they do it, it’s called regulation. When we do it, it’s called censorship.
24 December, 2020
Abhishek Banerjee
Yesterday morning, for scores of Indian liberals, Christmas came early. They woke up to the cheer of the UK affiliate of Republic Bharat being hit with a fine of 20,000 British Pounds for broadcasting “hate speech.” This is the first time I have heard of the OfCom, the UK government body that served the fine.
For scores of India’s elite liberals, this was not the day to talk about free speech. It was a day to celebrate.
There were a couple of things that were noteworthy about the reporting around the incident. First, the OfCom was described to us as a “regulator” for the media. Okay, what does it regulate? Apparently, all the things that you can say on air. You know we have the National Board of Film Certification in India with a similar brief for what you can show in the movies. Our media usually refers to it as the unofficial term Censor Board. So why didn’t the media refer to the UK’s OfCom as a “censor”?
Oh, I get it. When they do it, it’s called regulation. When we do it, it’s called censorship.
Second, the sense of liberal cheer was not dampened when the nature of Republic Bharat’s alleged offense began to emerge. It turns out that in the backdrop of India’s Chandrayaan mission last year, the folks on Republic Bharat had referred to India as a nation that produces scientists, as opposed to Pakistan which produces terrorists. Hate speech for sure. And how untrue! Seventy-three years after partition, it was heartwarming to see the imperial British government, the Pakistanis and the Indian liberals come together to celebrate a common victory.
But I wanted to know more about this OfCom. It’s full name is the Office of Communications. It holds sweeping powers over broadcasting, telecommunications and even postal industries in the UK. That’s reassuring. I do hope that the OfCom is under the Ministry of Truth in the UK. Dear George Orwell, are you hearing this?
So what methodology does the OfCom use to decide whether something is hate speech? I did a simple google search. It led me to this letter, posted on the official website of OfCom in response to a Freedom of Information request (similar to our RTI):
What OfCom considers ‘hate speech’
That’s just awesome. The methodology is secret. And the OfCom’s Secretary has confirmed that it is not in the “public interest” to release it.
Thank you, dear Secretary to Ofcom, for looking out for the public interest. Seems the good people of the United Kingdom had some kind of meeting, where they elected this faceless bureaucrat as God. Or at least the official guardian of public interest.
As a concession to those of us who are not guardians of public interest, the Secretary was kind enough to provide “Annex B” setting out the reasons why this methodology must be kept secret. And it makes for truly amazing reading. They have two columns, one listing factors for disclosure, while the other lists factors for withholding. And below that, the Secretary, who is a “qualified person” as defined by law, has delivered the final verdict.
First, let us read the factors in favor of disclosing the methodology. It’s remarkably short.
OfCom’s methodology
Ah, the “general desirability” that the actions of the regulator should be transparent! The public’s right to know how their government decides what they are allowed to say? That’s just generally desirable, though apparently not important enough. You have to give it to the British. They do condescension well.
Now let us find out the much longer and more important factors for withholding this methodology. First, there is this.
Factors for withholding methodology
Ah, the government needs a safe space where they can decide what should be censored. If the general riff-raff get to know what is being said here, the government might get its feelings hurt. And then the government might feel shy about expressing its views in the future.
Dear President Xi Jinping, do consider giving a bear hug to these sensitive souls in the British government.
And finally, there is this.
OfCom’s methodology
Long sentences. So, we’re going to have to break it down. The monitoring is only effective if the broadcasters don’t know when and who is being monitored. If this information becomes public, the broadcasters might become alert in time and fix their conduct before the sword falls on them. Then, how would the government know who the thought criminals are?
So everyone is suspect, all of the time. At any time, a government bureaucracy, using a secret methodology, might decide that you have broken their secret rules. Nothing to worry here. As long as you only talk about unicorns and rainbows, you will be just fine. Hopefully.
And finally, the Secretary delivers the expected verdict. No disclosures, sorry.
“Public interest favours withholding information”
Observe how long the sentences are in the latter part of Annex B. Unlike the simple, easy to understand sentence that mentioned the general desirability of things being transparent. In case you are wondering, you do have a right to appeal. In that case, the OfCom will do an “internal review.”
This is modern liberalism. A parody of itself and its alleged goals. Honestly, tell me. If I had not told you at the very beginning, would you have known if these were documents from the British government or the Chinese government?
But to scores of Indian liberal elites, all this matters little. They don’t care if the bosses of some TV channel cheat investors using insider trading. They don’t care if notable journalists are on tape fixing portfolios in the Union Cabinet with lobbyists and big business. And they don’t care if media coverage endangers lives of security forces during anti-terror operations. All they care about is making Republic Bharat shut up about Pakistan.
In other words, yes to corruption. Yes to terrorism. No to free speech.
Primus wrote:Guys, can somebody point me to a good article summarizing the 'Farmers' Protest'? Preferably one with a TL;DR summary.
Got a forward from a close Sikh friend with a biased slant, shocking to see old friends turned around with all the nonsense propaganda coming out of various western and non-Indic media sources.
I got that in Whatsapp too. I think it's a fake. I looked all over and it is nowhere to be found.darshan wrote:US corporations like Costco were heard to be taking pot shots at India over Modi liberating farmers. I can't seem to find any news report on it.
Same argument I get from RoL'ers that Osama was not a true muslim, or Mullah Omar was never a true Muslim. From this logic, there never existed a true muslim.When one points out Manmohan Singh was PM for 10 years, one gent even claimed he wasnt a true Sikh as he was under orders from Sonia Gandhi...
Everyone is afraid of tangling with peacefools. And they know they can get away with messing with Hindus.Why aren't they stuck at islamic atrocities if they are so good at getting stuck? They also seem to be supporting nehru clan which they should be hating.
Brilliant! Counter intuitive at it's best.m_saini wrote:+1Vips wrote:If you must watch programs of Hindu phobic channels/platforms or of any pseudo Bollywood actors and directors then please watch it through downloads or from pirated sources. Do not use pay channels/buy theatre tickets and enrich these anti dharmic b a s t a r d s.
I always tell my non-indian friends that bollywood is full of hindu nationalists so don't buy their movies etc it resonates extremely well
And this my friend is the tragedy.Tanaji wrote:I fear it would be a wasted effort based on previous experience. A good proportion of UK and Canadian Sikhs are still stuck in the past of the 1960s-1980s Punjab of lush green fields with the elders sitting in the verandah after a hard days work, the women cooking and children playing nearby. Never mind the various societal problems that afflict Punjab and India to some extent in modern times. Any and all discussion with them begins and ends with Operation BlueStar and it is as if time never moved after that point. It is as of the real issues of falling water table, skewed male to female ratio, drugs, no industrial employment, lack of representation in SGPC for marginal Sikhs etc just do not exist and is they do “others” (i.e. the Hindu Central government) are to blame. Add to that a healthy dose of evil RSS and a self belief of how they alone are the true practioners of Sikhism and how they know best which guarantees you will be speaking to deaf ears...
Best of luck though, you can only try.
