Exercise Golden Eagle - South Africa

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Exercise Golden Eagle - South Africa

Postby Pranay » 13 Sep 2004 17:28

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/00 ... uth~Africa

Folks - Please post all info, pictures, news and views re: this exercise here. Thanks!

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2004 19:22

keralanext.com

Indian Air Force team leaves for South Africa:

[India News] Thiruvananthapuram, Sep 13 : A 100-strong Indian Air Force (IAF) contingent left here Monday for South Africa for multi-nation war games that will be witnessed by visiting Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam.

The air forces of South Africa, Germany, Britain and the US will be represented in Exercise Golden Eagle.

The IAF contingent, led by Group Captain R. Bhasin, comprises six Mirage 2000 fighter-bombers, two IL-78 midair refuellers and two IL-76 transport aircraft.


The IAF vice chief, Air Marshal Michael McMahon, saw off the contingent at the Shangumugham airbase here.

The IAF team will reach South Africa Thursday after stopovers at Male and Mauritius. It will return in the first week of October.

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Postby Singha » 13 Sep 2004 19:22

does anyone know if the team is a joint one between tigers and battle-axes ?

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Postby Kartik » 13 Sep 2004 19:35

nope, the team is comprised of only No.7 Battleaxes Mirages.

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Postby JaiS » 14 Sep 2004 12:13

Indian Air Force team leaves for South Africa



Thiruvananthapuram, A 100-strong Indian Air Force (IAF) contingent left here Monday for South Africa for multi-nation war games that will be witnessed by visiting Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam.


The air forces of South Africa, Germany, Britain and the US will be represented in Exercise Golden Eagle.
The IAF contingent, led by Group Captain R. Bhasin, comprises six Mirage 2000 fighter-bombers, two IL-78 midair refuellers and two IL-76 transport aircraft.



The IAF vice chief, Air Marshal Michael McMahon, saw off the contingent at the Shangumugham airbase here.
The IAF team will reach South Africa Thursday after stopovers at Male and Mauritius. It will return in the first week of October.



Exercise Golden Eagle comes in the wake of the hugely successful Exercise Cooperative Cope Thunder 04-01 in Alaska in July during which IAF pilots matched their skills with their counterparts from the US and NATO air forces and came out with flying colours.
"Our participation in Exercise Cooperative Cope Thunder 04-01 brought laurels to the country, thanks to the high precision displayed by the fighter pilots in penetrating air defences and scoring direct hits on ground targets in the mountain ranges," the air chief, Air Chief Marshal S. Krishnaswamy, had said after the contingent returned.


Air forces from the Asia-Pacific and NATO countries such as Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, Germany and Britain too participated.
Early this year, a similar exercise was conducted by the IAF at Gwalior, where the US Air Force participated with F-15Cs and the combat skills of Indian pilots drew much appreciation.


A joint exercise has been planned in India with the Singapore Air Force in October, with the visitors flying with six F-16 fighters.
The IAF plans to hold another round of such exercises in France, Britain and the US next year.

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Postby shiv » 14 Sep 2004 19:43

Link received on email:

http://lemauricien.com/mauricien/index.html

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Un bruit de "Tonnerre Divin" - en hindi, Vajra, nom de code qu'a donné l'Indian Air Force à ses Mirage 2000 - s'est fait entendre à l'aéroport de Plaisance, ce matin. Les Vajra ont touché la piste à partir de 11 h 03, cabrés nez vers le ciel, dans l'attitude typique des avions à aile delta. Le premier avion du groupe de dix appareils de l'IAF en escale à Maurice est arrivé plus tôt, à 10 h 15 - un Illyouchine 76, qui transporte du matériel et des officiers. Les avions de l'armée de l'air indienne restent à Maurice jusqu'à jeudi avant de reprendre leur vol, vers l'Afrique du Sud. Ils seront à nouveau en escale à Maurice le 3 octobre prochain, pour leur voyage de retour en Inde.


yeah yeah. whatever. :lol:

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Postby Ashutosh » 14 Sep 2004 19:48

That picture doesn't look like a good sign. Or maybe I don't really know much about ocean flying.

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Postby Vick » 14 Sep 2004 19:56

The aircraft's configured for ferrying with three drop tanks and will most certainly also need an IFR as well.

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Postby Jagan » 14 Sep 2004 19:57

Un bruit de "Tonnerre Divin" - en hindi, Vajra, nom de code qu'a donné l'Indian Air Force à ses Mirage 2000 - s'est fait entendre à l'aéroport de Plaisance, ce matin. Les Vajra ont touché la piste à partir de 11 h 03, cabrés nez vers le ciel, dans l'attit... .......


Translates as

A noise of "Tonnerre Divin" - in Hindi, Vajra, code name qu'a given l'Indian Air Force to its Mirage 2000 - s'est makes hear with l'aéroport Pleasure, this morning. Vajra touched the track from 11 a.m. 03, pulled up noses towards the sky, in typical l'attitude of the planes with delta wing. The first plane of the group of ten apparatuses of l'IAF in stopover with Maurice arrived earlier, at 10 a.m. 15 - Illyushin 76, which transports material and officers. The planes of l'armée to l'air Indian remain in Maurice jusqu'à Thursday before taking again to their flight, worms l Afric of the South. They will be again in stopover with Maurice on next 3 October, for their return voyage in India. Pushed by its enormous M-53 engine of Snecma and carried by its delta wing which does not facilitate l'atterrissage to him, first Vajra took all the length of the track of Pleasure for s'arrêter, after a long race, completely pulled up. From 11. 03 at 11 a.m. 15, three of Mirage 2000 of l'IAF thus landed, under the glances of some curious - which were out of the perimeter of l'aéroport - and about the members of the ground personnel, the latter being held in front of the hangars. First Illyushin 76 had already attracted the glances with its mass and its very gray color, at 10 a.m. 15. It had landed while coming from the sea, whereas the Mirage carried out their final approach and their landing in the direction "terre/mer". Before Illyushin 76, a last civil aircraft - B747 to d'Air France - had taken off for its commercial flight. Chetak and Fennec of the police force Mauritian then began their ballet on the perimeter from l'aéroport. Signs heralding, for reasons of safety, of l'arrivée of the Indian military aircrafts. After the three Mirage 2000, second Illyushin 76 touched the track, at 11 a.m. 25, putting fine at the first block d'atterrissages. The group of l'IAF includes/understands ten apparatuses on the whole, including six Mirage 2000, two Illyouchine 76 and two Illyushin 78. The latter are planes of in-flight refueling: they make it possible the Mirage to remake the full one in flight, on long distances. The apparatuses of l'IAF must leave Maurice Thursday, for l Afric South where they will take part in exercises united with l'armée South-African, thus qu'au aeronautical living room Africa Aerospace & Defence (AAD) in the area of Pretoria
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Postby Rakesh » 14 Sep 2004 19:59

A rough transalation of the above para:

The noise of "Divine Thunder" (in Hindi, Vajra), a code name given to the Indian Air Force’s Mirage 2000s, was heared at Airport Pleasure, this morning. Vajra touched the track from 11 a.m., pulled up noses towards the sky, in typical attitude of the planes with delta wing. The first plane of the group of ten apparatuses of IAF in stopover with Maurice arrived earlier, at 10 a.m. IL- 76, which transports material and officers. The planes of the Indian Air Force will remain in Mauritius till Thursday before taking again to their flight, towards South Africa. They will be again in stopover with Mauritius on next October 3rd, for their return voyage in India.

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Postby shiv » 14 Sep 2004 20:02

Ashutosh wrote:That picture doesn't look like a good sign. Or maybe I don't really know much about ocean flying.


Or maybe you don't know much about goodwill visits? :wink:

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Postby Ashutosh » 14 Sep 2004 20:20

he he ;)

Well, carrying those drop tanks inspite of having a tanker or two on call is not convincing, is it? Or maybe they are carrying them just in case ...

Even the Jags flew across the Atlantic with drop tanks.

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Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2004 03:44

it alllows u to reduce number of tankings, increases safety diversion ranges and on long range missions most M2Ks carry atleast 2 drop tanks anyway.

A Flanker would just take a deep drink at the beer keg in Kochi and fly direct to Male, with a 5 min diversion enroute to buzz and harass a wayfaring B1 from Diego :twisted:

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Postby Shankar » 15 Sep 2004 11:14

in the comming indo-israeli air exercise may be the flankers will take of from lohegaon top up their tanks over bombay high and then onwards to tel aviv no stop to tanking just to show the world and the paki supporter more specifically what indian air force is capable of .

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Postby Singha » 15 Sep 2004 14:59

do our flankers have provision for external tanks ? hopefully a giant canoe shaped tank between the air intakes...

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Postby merlin » 15 Sep 2004 18:30

>>Well, carrying those drop tanks inspite of having a tanker or two on call is not convincing, is it? Or maybe they are carrying them just in case ...

I'm sure you know it but its carried just in case :P

I don't think there is ever a 100% guarantee of being able to tank up whenever needed. Tankers may develop a snag and need to divert. Carrying drop tanks increases the safety margin and probably gives you more options on diversionary airfields.

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Postby George J » 15 Sep 2004 20:06

MT Singha wrote:do our flankers have provision for external tanks ? hopefully a giant canoe shaped tank between the air intakes...


There are no wet points on the Su-27 family...although the Su-34 'might' be an exception.

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Postby Singha » 16 Sep 2004 01:41

Darn! anyway cant be fund this small improvement ? 1500km of
hi-alt radius is too small for my liking. that canoe tank with say
2 tons of extra fuel should permit another 400km of extra radius.

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Postby Harry » 16 Sep 2004 16:22

MT Singha wrote:Darn! anyway cant be fund this small improvement ? 1500km of
hi-alt radius is too small for my liking. that canoe tank with say
2 tons of extra fuel should permit another 400km of extra radius.


Excuse me? The Su-30MKI's ferry range when all it's internal fuel tanks are topped up (10K Kg) is around 4500 km. (SU-27P N595 piloted by Anatoly kvochur set a range of 4000km). Normal high altitude combat range is 3400 km and 1500 km at low altitude. This is is why it never needs drop tanks.

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Postby Pranay » 18 Sep 2004 17:18

http://in.news.yahoo.com/040908/43/2fyh1.html

A few extra info bits from Yahoo...


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Postby JaiS » 19 Sep 2004 11:40

IAF visit to coincide with AAD 2004

Planning moves into top gear for AAD 2004
http://www.airnews.co.za/showstory.asp?id=486


Although a lot will depend on the weather during the two public days on September 24 and 25 – Trade Days are September 21 to 23 – the organisers are expecting around 125000 people, up 25000 from the exhibition in 2002.

FOREIGN AIR FORCES Foreign air forces will also again feature in this year’s display. A highlight will be the attendance by the Indian Air Force that will be sending several Mirage 2000s supported by an IL-76 transport aircraft. This is a coup for the show organisers, as this air force’s aircraft are rarely seen outside their own country.


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Postby JTull » 19 Sep 2004 15:26

[url=http://www.centralchronicle.com/20040919/1909004.htm]
Brahmos to be put on sale display[/url]

For the first time, the supersonic Indo-Russian cruise missile Brahmos will be put on display-cum-sale at the South African Defence Expo scheduled to be held from September 21.

India has recently started commercial production of the 300-km range, land, air and underwater launched missile and its display at the Pretoria show indicates that New Delhi will go ahead with its exports.

Besides the cruise missile, India would be showcasing its main battle tank MBT Arjun, Advance Light Helicopter and other armaments at the expo, which will culminate in a dazzling African air show.

Minister of State for Defence B K Handique would be heading the Indin delegation to the Defence expo.

A Defence Ministry Spokesperson said all the nine Defence public sector undertakings, Ordnance Factory Board and Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) would be participating.

Coinciding with the Defence expo, six Mirage 2000 fighter aircraft would be carrying out first-ever joint air exercises with the South African Air Force.

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Postby Pranay » 05 Oct 2004 18:10

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 874380.cms

IAF Mirage crash lands at Mauritius airport on return flight from Exercise Golden Eagle...



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