Possible Indian Military Scenarios - XI

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OMG !!!

these people are the cruelest possible !! can't think of a harsh enough punishment for them.

wonder how difficult it would have been for them to first kill the animal properly.

for once, I would be happy to believe in the existence of hell.
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^^ unless Shankar is planning to write a scenario about fur-wearing chicoms hiding thermonuclear warheads in fluffy bunnies, i fail to see the relevance of the above.
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RHINO CHARGE FLIGHT-12XSU-30MKI-0525 HRS –ANDAMANS SEA

Wing commander Jalan looked at his radar display ,the data link feed from Phalocn and his moving map display helped him make up his mind on the final tactical strike plan against the incoming dozen odd J-11 . Flying the state of the art Su-30mki ,perhaps the best air dominance fighter in the world in full operational service did not, make him complacent .On the contrary the available flying and navigational aid made him feel more like a combat manager and at the moment he was fine tuning his zero loss defensive strike plan using all the resources at his command –the dozen best combat aircraft with thrust vectoring ability along with very powerful electronic countermeasure capability, the available awac support –the pre knowledge of the flying limits of J-11 type aircraft and confidence in the skill level of his team mates

Rhino lead –rhino team –stand by to copy strike plan
-Standing by –rhino lead – rhino 2
Standing by –rhino lead –rhino 3 and the alert status came in quickly
- rhino team –rhino lead – execute strike plan orange glow –repeat orange glow
- copy that rhino lead –ready to execute plan orange glow on your command
- ocean eye – rhino charge lead – ready to execute orange glow –concur over
Commodore Manjit had to admire the guts of the young pilots .Instead of firing the long range R-77 s and then following up with R-73 shots up close in copy book style-Jalan was in effect asking permission to close in within r-73 range with radars off ,depending solely on the track guidance from the phalcon and then hit from right below the incoming J-11 s with R-73 in caged mode using the far superior turning climb ability of the mkis and then use R-77 s as secondary weapon to finish off the escaping J-11s
Thinking for just a few seconds commodore Manjit gave his sanction to the plan
-rhino lead –ocean eye –you have all signal green- we are turning over four consoles to your mission –happy hunting

- thanks ocean eye –executing now
- rhino team-rhino lead – execute orange glow -5 4 3 2 1 now .

The 12 Su 30 mkis broke up at right angles into four distinct flight . The first three stayed on course and reduced speed to 800 km./hr .The second groups turned starboard at angles and dived for the waves .The third group similarly turned port and once again went for the waves .The fourth group went vertical on full afterburner and climbed for maximum altitude and were soon crossing the 15 km band .

The PLAAF J-11 which was almost getting ready to launch their load of BVR missiles (Chinese copy of R-77) suddenly were with too many widely set target co ordinates and the threat priority assigned by their attack computer were no longer valid and the individual computers went on reset mode and restarted to assign new missile launch priority based on distance ,speed and altitude of the incoming Indian mkis ,aborting the already programmed in firing solution fed to the missiles guidance chips .
- rhino lead –ocean eye –distance to target 75 km –execute cross now
All the 12 mkis lit their afterburner and executed a simultaneous horizontal and vertical scissor maneuver. What happened is in a matter of second s the aircrafts that were flying top cover went for the waves as the 3 flankers flying on wave tops and barely detected on J-11 radar went vertical and took up the top cover position .At the same time the two flight s of three flankers from port and starboard changed side using their full thrust vectoring capability with hardly any altitude change.

The PLAAF flight could no longer maintain formation and still defend itself ass the Indian flankers were starting to envelope the Chinese flight in a deadly game of cat and mouse. As they split up to meet the Indian challenge –the IAF Phalocn noted the dispersion and fed exact position of individual PLAAF aircraft to the Indian sukhois.

- rhino lead- ocean eye –you have two J 11 on your tails 50 km and closing at high speed
- copy that ocean eye –tell me when to break
- standby rhino lead
- rhino 4 – bandit launched radar seeker on you deploy chaff and break away now
- thanks –ocean eye – bugging out now –chaff deployed
- rhino lead –ocean eye -time to play tango
- copy –ocean eye –rhino lead thanks
Jalan pulled the stick towards him self and to the starboard limits . As he pushed the throttle collective to full afterburner the jet skidded on its tail and was facing the incoming r-77 clones fired by the PLAAF J-11 .He squeezed off half a dozen chaff packet ,checked ECM pod was on and then pulled into a steep vertical climb ,allowing the pair of radar seekers to pass under and explode harmlessly far away. As his pushed the stick forward the flanker nosed down seeking out its prey ,which in this case was flight of three J-11 s hopelessly exposed and trying to get away from the Indian flanker looming up and forward but at maximum speed not having much success . So they executed only option still available put their collective nose down and dived for the ocean.
Jalan did not hesitate as he selected r-73 for all the three J-11 s and punched the firing trigger three times . The state of the art onboard attack computer took in the fire command ,checked the radar data and the aircraft information stored in its hard drive and decided on the target priority ,targeting the closest one first and then in sequence

There was no question of missing as Jalan looked at each of his doomed enemy ,the helmet mounted sight noted the Doppler shift of their radar echo and guided in the three missiles already launched . Two of the J-11 exploded one after another in the sky barely 100 meters over the ocean and third one crashed into the waves as its brave pilot tried to out run the archer.

- ocean eye –rhino lead –splash three –confirm please
- ocean eye copies –rhino lead splash three bandits –type J-11





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The start of a clean sweep?
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RHINO CHARGE FLIGHT-12XSU-30MKI-0532 HRS –ANDAMANS SEA

Wing commander Jalan shook his head vigorously to clear the eyes which have started watering after the vigorous thrust vectoring maneuvers and then as he caught the bright flash of exploding fire balls .It took him a few seconds to focus on the plot and his weapon system officer was already plotting the path to next bandit which was trying to get out of the killing field. The tactical net came alive as the Phalcon kept a constant watch on the developing battle and kept up a stream of real time information flowing in

- Rhino 5 – J-11 – 3 o clock- 28 kms –moving into your tail –break left mow
- Rhino 6 – radar seeker on your tail –deploy counter measure now –break left
- Rhino lead – we have a juicy target pair – 0ne o clock -40 kms closing in
- Ocean eye –rhino lead – engaging

Jalan was feeling the exhaustion of intense air combat in his bones as he made a sharp turn to starboard lining up for a classic head on R-77 launch .As he selected the weapon on attack console the shoot prompt came up on the head up display almost immediately and the radar warning receiver went into over drive as both the incoming J-11 s launched their missiles . Jalan did not bat an eye lid as he squeezed of a pair of adders and dived for the ocean floor in a flurry of chaff packets which were pumped out automatically triggered by the radar warning receiver feedback . As he leveled out barely 20 meters from sea level one of the missiles was still on his tail ,matching his every move but obviously not much gas left to do any long chase .Jalan pushed stick all the way to port and lit afterburner for a maximum rate climb ,the missile followed ,Jalan eased back on the throttle ,the air speed bled off quickly ,few more packets of chaff punched out into slip stream and then suddenly the flanker was standing still on its tail and then started sliding back ,stick forward and the su-30 mki pointed its nose down ,increase power to maximum ,maintain the turn and out of the radar lock of the incoming missile –safe at last ,pull up on the stick slowly and get out of the screaming power dive – and back to level flight once again

Rhino lead –that was a smart move – we confirm one more kill to your account –ocean eye
- Rhino 8 break –break off now – 2 j-11 closing in from 5 and 7 oclock
- Rhino 3 help rhino 8 – maybe you will have to use the guns

Squadron leader jamwal was on his way even before advised the air battle commander as he increase throttle to 125% military power and dived on one of the J-11 now in threatening position to rhino 8 .The distance to target rapidly decreased to 4 km and he decided for a close in gun shot as any heat seeker he might launch may hit the friends . As he closed to 3 kms the floating cross hair appeared on his his head up display .Up on the port leading edge root extension the Gsh 301 powered up automatically and belt feed lock opened up. The j-11 by now was trying hard to shake him jinking right and left at random but agin it was no match for the thrust vectoring super agility of the mki Jamwal kept his floating cross hair firmly on the wing root as the distance to target decreased to 2 km and reduced power to 1005 military power .The shoot command came up on the head up display ,obe last aim correction and Jamwal gently squeezed the red fire button for a standard 3 second burst . The tracers hit the J-11 in a diagonal line from port wing root to vertical stabilized cutting it open like a sardine can which then disintegrated by high speed inrushing air even before the fuel tanks have a chance to explode .

-ocean eye –rhino 3 –splash one thunder –confirm please
- god work rhino 3 –confirm one thunder splashed –good work –join rhino 8 -2 j-11 trying to escape -4 o clock -1500 meters -6 klicks
-copy that ocean eye – regrouping with rhino 8 now
Rhino 8-rhino 3 –execute strike cats eye now
- copy that rhino 3 –launching -3 2 1 now
Both the Indian flankers launched a pair of r-27 each at an interval of precisely 5 seconds ,lit their afterburner once again and closed in launching again a pair of r-73 from point blank range as the Chinese J-11 Their best to avoid the radar seekers .

Death was but certain for the PLAAF crew .They were hopelessly outmatched and without awac support or the powerful avionic on board the IAF flankers and then the super agility generated out of twin thrust vectoring engines made all the difference . It took just over 10 minutes for the Indian flankers to clear the skies and remove the threat to the sole Phalcon in the region. The ocean took care of the misplaced technical aspiration of the PLAAF. They learnt the difference between a copy and original the hard way.

- rhino team –ocean eye thanks for a job well done – escort the bombers back to mainland and resume CAP –over
- copy that ocean eye ,said Jalan as looked out over the deep blue bay of Bengal and in the distance he could see the emerald isle of Car Nicobar –a land worth fighting for .
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Squadron leader Jamwal 8)
:D
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copy that ocean eye ,said Jalan as looked out over the deep blue bay of Bengal and in the distance he could see the emerald isle of Car Nicobar –a land worth fighting for .
wow clean sweep! this last line has made the day, yes it is the land worth fighting for.
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jamwal wrote:Squadron leader Jamwal 8)
:D
good shooting squadron leader, but job is not yet complete you need to kick more chinkis butt :).
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Post by dhruvarka »

The scenario of IAF SU 30 MKI defending an Awacs from PLAAF J-11's by Shankar reads much better compared to a similar scenario in Tom Clancy's Bear and the Dragon. Congratulations Shankar, and if you decide to publish this as a book, I'll be the first one to buy it.
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This series of radio calls became a familiar prelude to some unique aerial combat encounters last November [1993] as some of USAF's best fighter pilots flew no-holds-barred fights in and against an F-16 like no other in the world-one with a thrust-vectoring engine nozzle. Their purpose: to test the tactical utility of thrust vectoring and post-stall maneuvering.

The multi-axis thrust-vectoring F-16 had already impressed a small group of Lockheed and USAF test pilots during its initial envelope expansion and development flight testing. In only four months, the airplane, previously limited to twenty-five degrees angle of attack, was cleared to perform such maneuvers as the Cobra, J-turn, and helicopter to unlimited AOAs. But whether this capability would have real tactical utility was left for the operational phase of the test program.

Critics of post-stall maneuvering argue that fighters should never get slow. They equate low speed, regardless of agility, with presenting an easy target. Proponents argue that vectoring offers a decided agility advantage as aerial encounters progress and combatants become slower. The debate has been mostly theoretical.

That's why the pilots from the 422nd Test and Evaluation Squadron at Nellis AFB were called in to fly the F-16/MATV. The 422nd Squadron tests and develops tactics for new equipment and systems for operational F-16, F-15, A-10, and F-4G squadrons. Typically, the squadron performs this operational testing after the folks at Edwards AFB (and a few other test sites) complete developmental testing.

The 422nd chose two of its top F-16 pilots, Maj. Jay Pearsall and Capt. Jim Henderson, to fly in and against the F-16/MATV. Pearsall has over 2,400 hours in the F-16. He has completed F-16 tours at Kunsan, Luke, and Spangdahlem. Besides completing several operational tours in the F-16, Henderson, who has 1,900 hours in the F-16, also served as an F-16 instructor pilot. Both pilots are graduates of the USAF's rigorous Fighter Weapons School.

Pearsall and Henderson participated in the early planning stages of the program and then flew the F-16/MATV soon after the envelope was cleared by the F-16 Combined Test Force at Edwards. The CTF consists of Lockheed, General Electric, and USAF test pilots, engineers, mechanics, and technicians. Thanks to these people and a great design team, the envelope expansion phase was so successful that no restrictions were placed on the aircraft for the operational phase. However, the 422nd pilots were asked to keep the throttle at military power or higher when flying above the Category I limiter (above twenty-five degrees AOA). Doing so would keep the thrust and the resulting vectoring force high. (Throttle chops to idle were tested earlier in the flight test program and showed no problems other than reducing the vectoring force.) The altitude floor for the air-to-air engagements was raised from the normal 10,000 feet to 20,000 feet as an added safety precaution for an aircraft with a prototype system.

The 422nd pilots rotated between MATV and the bandit or aggressor aircraft, which were F-16 Block 32 aircraft from the 422nd Squadron. The pilots flew one-vs-one engagements first. The weapons simulated during the evaluation were the F-16's standard gun with increased range PGU-28 bullets, AIM-9Ms, and AIM-120s.

Throughout their evaluation, the 422nd pilots were encouraged to fight their best BFM (basic fighter maneuvers). The engagements were no duck shoot. The goal was to get a no-kidding reality check on the usefulness of thrust vectoring.

The one-vs-one engagements started from offensive and defensive perches (positions in trail or in lead of the bandit) as well as from neutral or head-on passes. Initial speeds ranged from 435 knots down to 250 knots. The lower speeds were used to represent a fight that had already progressed through several turns.

The F-16 already possesses awesome maneuvering characteristics. But vectoring allowed the offensive pilot to get a quicker kill, and it helped eliminate some of the common mistakes of overshooting or getting stuck in lag (a situation in which the aircraft can't quite get its nose onto the bandit because of the AOA limiter).

The bandit was still able to shoot at the airplane, but the shots had a lower probability of kill because the F-16/MATV was more elusive than a standard F-16. In addition, the known ability of the F-16/MATV to use post-stall maneuvering caused the attacking pilot to feel somewhat defensive and thereby modify his tactics to guard against any real, or perceived, threat from the thrust-vectoring jet.

From a defensive position, thrust vectoring allowed the F-16/MATV to survive longer. The high-speed neutral one-vs-one engagements displayed the benefits of the F-16 limiter. The limiter allows the pilot to maintain the aircraft's energy in the turns by keeping the airplane out of the post-stall region, where drag is dramatically higher. If the MATV pilot employed post-stall maneuvering too early or at the wrong time, he would indeed slow down too fast and the bandit could gain an advantage. However, thrust vectoring allowed the F-16 to employ that portion of the flight envelope between the normal AOA limiter and the AOA for maximum lift (around thirty-five degrees AOA). As a result, the MATV pilot could take advantage of the F-16's maximum turn capability.

Thrust vectoring and post-stall maneuvering did improve the F-16's air-to-air capability as airspeeds decreased and as the one-vs-one neutral setups progressed to offensive or defensive positions. Of course, the neutral setups were against another F-16 with good vertical capability. Against a dissimilar aircraft without such a high thrust-to-weight ratio, the F-16/MATV would have a distinct advantage because it could exploit post-stall maneuvering earlier in the fight.

For the one-vs-two engagements, the 422nd sent Capt. Dave Dodson as a dedicated bandit. Dodson, with over 1,000 hours of F-16 flying time, has a background that makes him a most formidable adversary. It includes a tour flying nothing but air-to-air engagements in the F-15C and a tour as a dedicated F-5 and F-16 aggressor. Like Pearsall and Henderson, Dodson is also a graduate of the USAF Fighter Weapons School.

In the one-vs-two engagements, Dodson flew exclusively as an adversary against the F-16/MATV while Pearsall and Henderson switched between the adversary and the front seat of the F-16/MATV. The three pilots flew a total of sixty-two one-vs-two aerial engagements.

In these encounters, the bandits tried to send the wingman high to gain an advantage in the fight-along with trying everything else in the fighter tactics handbook. Their strategy was to attack the F-16/MATV from above while it countered an aggressive lead bandit. Employing this strategy successfully would support the critics' main argument against post-stall maneuvering. That is, any advantage offered by post-stall capability could be easily overcome by multiple bandits.

The actual results, however, may surprise these critics. The MATV aircraft was able to hold its own in these lopsided contests, and it was often impressively offensive. Post-stall maneuvering forced the bandits to modify their tactics and to reduce their mutual support to counter the thrust-vectoring opponent. Although the bandit wingman tried going high, the F-16/MATV would use its post-stall capability to get a shot at or, at least, threaten the high wingman before continuing to fight the lead bandit.

The evaluation also showed that the gun (with the increased-range PGU-28 bullets) was the weapon used most of the time because of the close ranges and short reaction times associated with the dogfights. Missiles were used only a portion of the time. And most of the missile shots were fired within the standard AOA envelopes for the missiles. (High-AOA missiles are in development. In fact, a specially instrumented AIM-9M was carried on the F-16/MATV's wingtip during several flights to gather vibration and loads data on the impact of the high-AOA environment on the missile itself.)

The pilots of the 422nd commented that while thrust vectoring would never be a substitute for a good understanding of basic air-to-air fighting skills, the capability significantly improves the airplane's lethality.

The F-16 would also benefit from the ability to carry air-to-air missile loadings presently limited to around fifteen degrees AOA (asymmetric missiles, for example) out to the maximum lift AOA of thirty-five degrees and beyond. This advantage, however, was not specifically addressed in the flight test program.

So it appears that the debate over thrust vectoring has moved from the chalkboard to the cockpit. Whether this capability, which is designed into the F-22 Air Superiority Fighter, will find its way into future versions of the F-16 remains to be seen. Those who have witnessed what this capability can do in the air, however, have been favorably impressed.

James Sergeant was the flight test engineer for the F-16/MATV program.
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Nitesh wrote:
jamwal wrote:Squadron leader Jamwal 8)
:D
good shooting squadron leader, but job is not yet complete you need to kick more chinkis butt :).
With great pleasure
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Shankar

The battle in the Gulf of Thailand & over Andaman Skies over. But there is an unfinished battle in the Pacific for the two Indian aircraft carriers.


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jamwal wrote:
Nitesh wrote: good shooting squadron leader, but job is not yet complete you need to kick more chinkis butt :).
With great pleasure
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oops I had forgotten to mention, provided shankar gives you the chance, request him to give the chance :D

and if he agress kick them badly so they never try such misadventures :twisted:
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Great work Shankar.

By the way, what happened to Vivek. I am still restlessly waiting for the conclusion of the battle in Tibet and Arunachal.
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OCEAN EYE FLIGHT – IAF PHALCON-OVER ANDAMANS SEA-0600 HRS

It was breakfast time on board the Bariev A-50 Phalcon as the first battle over Andaman’s came to a swift conclusion .As the steaming hot idlis and cups of filter coffee were being sounded ,the sector controller in charge of Myanmar sector sounded the first alarm of something sinister about to happen

-Commodore sir – we see six aircraft taking off from Yangon – heading 215 –speed 800 km /hr –possible Su-30 MKK /Su 27/J-11 –altitude 200 meters –expected to get feet wet in ten minutes at present speed and course- request authorization to divert returning flanker to intercept
Commodore Manjit’s hope of a peaceful breakfast was gone as he pushed out the breakfast tray and quickly keyed in the new radar data onto to the large combat plot .

- possible target please
- sir me think they are heading for either Car Nic or Kalpakam –one moment sir –they have split up -3 aircraft formation now on heading 195 possible target Chennai/Kalpakam .Rajali –other three changed heading to 260 for car nic base sir.
- Standby sector commander –alert rhino charge flight for immediate intercept mission
- Rhino lead –ocean eye –we see six repeat six bandits on possible strike mission to car nic and Chennai region –intercept vectors in a few moments – state fuel status –over
- Ocean eye –rhino lead – copy mission requirement –fuel status ok- weapon load 50% - may need gas after engagement
- Copy that rhino charge lead –fuel being arranged – bandits have split up into two groups –rhino 3 4 5 engage group alpha –present heading 195 to Chennai region –possible target kalpakam reactors – rhino 1 5 6 7 8 engage group tango –present heading 195 –possible target car nic – both groups flying in 150-200 meters –over
- Ocean eye –rhino lead –copy that
- Ocean eye –rhino three –breaking off now and engaging –
replied Jamwal calmly as he put his flanker on a steep turning dive ,bringing it up on a direct intercept course to the three PLAAF flankers/Thunders on their way to Kalpakam

Russia has officially notified China of the fact that the production of J11 jet fighters, which copy Russia’s Su-27SK aircraft, violates international agreements. Moscow promised to launch legal proceedings to protect its intellectual property.
Russia’s attempts to settle down on China’s arms market have been made to no avail, the Nezavisimaya Gazeta reports. Chinese pirates have entered a new level of activity. They mastered the production technology and developed the Chinese production of Su-27 analogues with a view to subsequently export the planes to third world countries.
The military cooperation between Russia and China has not been very successful during the recent couple of years. Russia’s arms exports to China dropped by 62 percent. In addition, Russia does not sign any new defense cooperation contracts with China. For the time being, the two countries simply execute the previously signed contracts, the sum of which total about $1.8 billion.
It is worthy of note that China used to be a major buyer of Russian-made military hardware. At present moment, China gradually becomes a large exporter of arms.
The Shenyang J-11 is an advanced fighter in the People's Liberation Army Air Force. It is a Chinese-redesigned, Chinese upgrade of the Russian Sukhoi Su-27SK.
The new J-11 is a Chinese redesigned version of the Sukhoi Su-27SK air superiority fighter. Sukhoi originally provided kits to Shenyang Aircraft Corporation upon an agreement in 1995, but over time there were to be increasing Chinese content in the aircraft, with up to 70% of all Su-27 ordered by the PLAAF to be Chinese-made. It has been reported that Sukhoi agreed to an upgrade program, allegedly in 2001, with improved radar and attack avionics.
However, in 2004, Russian media reported that Shenyang co-production of the basic J-11 was stopped after around 100 examples were built, citing a source within the PLAAF suggesting that the basic Su-27/J-11 was no longer meeting PLAAF requirements. The PLAAF later revealed a mock-up of an upgrade J-11C in late 2002. It was equipped with Chinese anti-ship and PL-12 air-to-air missiles presumably for the role for a maritime strike aircraft.
The Sukhoi Su-27 (NATO reporting name 'Flanker') is a jet fighter plane originally manufactured by the Soviet Union, and designed by the Sukhoi Design Bureau. It was intended as a direct competitor for the new generation of American fighters (which emerged as the F-14 Tomcat, F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, and F/A-18 Hornet), with long range, heavy armament, and very high agility. The Su-27 most often flies air superiority missions, but is able to perform almost all combat operations. Its closest American counterpart is the F-15 Eagle.
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RHINO CHARGE 3-4 5 – ANDAMANS SEA – 250 KM SOUTH WEST OF CAR NICOBAR

Wing commander Jamwal tried to stretch in his some what cramped 36K inclined ejection seat .The multi functional display all systems are combat capable and that included his infra red search and track system ,hydraulics pressure in master cylinder satisfactory,still had 4 R-73 and 4 R-77 available for the next combat ,engine oil pressure was wee bit below normal as expected after a high intensity combat and exhaust temperature on both engines much higher than normal but coming down quickly as he continued throttling down power as he went into a turning dive ,planning to intercept the boggies face to face with radar seekers at no escape zone . The air search radar was once again in stand by mode as he allowed the Phalcon to guide him to the intercept zone.The incoming J-11 s did not bother him, what made him uneasy was their target selection .

Not known to many The city of Chennai is surrounded by high value targets from the madras atomic power projects multiple reactors ,nearby multiple 1000 MW Russian supplied reactors ,naval air station at Arkonam barely 10 minutes flying time from Chennai ,the metro city of Chennai itself and of course the countries first operational fast breeder reactor ,tank factory at Avadi and scores of other important installations .

So far the Phalcon have detected only 3 incoming bandits but Jamwal knew that figure can change any moment .And he will be proven right in a matter of minutes .

The Su-27 air defense fighter can also carry out escort missions in support of Tu-22M, Backfire NATO nickname, as well as other bomber/attack aircraft such as the Su-24, Fencer NATO nickname. Despite its size and weight, the Su-27 and its derivatives are the most maneuverable aircraft ever flew.

The Su-27 Flanker features an integrated Infrared Search and Track (IRST) system located in front of the cockpit's canopy. The IRST system together with a helmet-mounted sight, the R-73 advanced short range air-to-air missile, and Su-27's maneuverability outperforms any existing fighter aircraft in a short range air-to-air engagement, The Su-30MKI features canard fore planes and AL-31FP thrust vectoring control engines achieving the super-maneuverability concept. Super-maneuverability means that the airplane can aim at any direction within seconds to fire an air-to-air missile without changing its bearing. Super-maneuverability can be used in many situations during a mission.
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OCEAN EYE -1X IAF PHALCON – ANDAMANS SEA -0610 HRS

- Sir we see 6 more flanker s crossing the Myanmar coast line – same heading and altitude- possible target Chennai region – shall I call on the reserve

Commodore Manjit never took a combat decision in a hurry ,it was always a deliberate action even if taken in a matter of seconds
- what we have on ground and on cap ?
- Sir we can get half a dozen Mig 29s from Port Blair in 5 minutes
- Launch them now –next
- We also have 4 Mirage 2000s on cap over Car Nic but low on fuel –need to recover in 20 minutes
- Keep the in air – see if they can divert one of the tankers to car nic before gasing up our flankers
- We have the first training squadron of LCA in Rajali but possibly not fully armed
- Get then armed and in air asap-get the base commander on the horn –now
- By the way also contact Chennai ATC and tell them to hold all take offs from domestic and international terminals and divert all incoming flights to Vizag and Coimbatore
- Chennai air traffic-this is air force control – we have a possible combat situation in the area –stop all take off till further advise –divert all incoming to Vizag NAD Coimbatore –confirm message understood over
- Air force control –Chenai centre –message understood –all take off in Chennai centre suspended as of now-diverting the following incoming to Vizag -------- and following to Coimbatore ---- over
- Thanks Chennai centre –issue immediate NOTAM –till further advise all Chennai center air traffic control region is restricted airspace – prior permission from air force controller is required to enter restricted air space- any violators are likely to be fired upon without visual identification –over
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Shankar wrote: - We have the first training squadron of LCA in Rajali but possibly not fully armed
- Get then armed and in air asap-get the base commander on the horn –now
Yeah! LCA in combat, Go! Shankarda go!
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Great going shankar sir

LCA in action
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Shankar paaji

A humble request --- would love to see Akash SAM's in action if PLAAF blunders do head chennai airspace .
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Hey I have a question??

During the time of war no doubt the nuclear forces of both the countries will be on full alert. In this situation when Pukes launch their Barber cruise missile on lets say a bridge or any other strategic target without the nukes and if we detect it soon after launch...will we think of this as a nuclear strike.. since we dont know if it carries a nuke warhead or where the missile is heading.
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PORT BLAIR AIRPORTS – BLACK EAGLE FLIGHT 6 X MIG 29 -0612 HRS

Wing commander Suman Chatterjee simply hated waiting kitted up next to the aircraft and inside the humid and hot hard shelter. The hard shelters were dispersed through out the airfield with discrete taxi way connections to the hammerhead on main runway 27 .At the moment the airport was on full combat alert which in simple terms meant full complement of air defense missiles were deployed and that for the first time included Akash area defense missile system structured around 3DCAR Rajendra phased array radar system and 6 launchers ,3 on each side of the main runway . All pilots were advised to keep the IFF on while approaching to avoid an undesirable blue on blue event .Each launcher had 3 akash missiles loaded and 2 reloads in nearby parked re-loaders. The Rajandra radar itself was located some way off on top of a hillock and linked to the control van and launchers through underground fiber optical cables running along the storm water drains

The public address system blared –scramble –scramble –scramble and the screechy sound of its speakers made sure all the six pilots were out of their resting cots and climbing up the step ladders in a matter of minutes .By the time Suman strapped in and closed the canopy – his crew chief have already removed the safety streamers from the pitot tube and missile tips and the chokes were being pulled up. He went though the shortened preflight check list automatically and keyed in to rest of his flight

- black eagle lead to black eagle flight –confirm status –over
- Black eagle one – ready to motor start
- Black eagle two strapped in –ready
Rest of the ready confirmations came in and Suman was ready to start engine

- tower –black eagle lead –request engine start
- black eagle – tower –cleared to engine start –cleared for paired take off –report to ocean eye once clear of airport airspace –over
- black eagle flight –black eagle lead – you heard the tower guys –form up on me after lift off –we do paired take off at 2 minutes interval –bank to port and starboard alternatively immediately on gear retraction – form up at 1000 meters –confirm message under stood
As the confirmation came in from five other fulcrum pilots ,Wing commander Suman Chatterjee clicked off the brake switch and pushed the throttle just a notch and then pulled back as the agile bird of prey hunched down and then started rolling with surprising agility

As the reached the hammer head suman and his wingman formed up on the runway for a parallel take off to save time and waited for the final clearance.

-tower black eagle lead – request immediate take off on runway 27
- black eagle lead –cleared for immediate take off –runway 27 –climb runway heading – report to ocean eye immediately after take – good hunting –over

-copy that tower – rolling now – see you for breakfast ,said Suman with a tight smile as he checked the flap setting at 15 degree, stabilizer movement and runway centre line just under him ,as he clicked on the brake and pushed the old style collective throttle all the way forward to full military power ,clicked off the break ,waited for the white centre line to become a blur ,eased the throttles past the reheat gate notch to 185% military power ,the runway slipped out of the wheels as the powerful jet climbed into sky and then fell into a graceful banking turn to port ,clearing the airspace for the next paired take off without risk –slapped the undercarriage up –all three lights turned green –as he cliked on the R/T and selected the frequency to Phalcon AWAC .
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OCEAN EYE -1X IAF PHALCON ANDAMANS SEA -0611 HRS

Commodore Manjit looked out of his window , a rare pleasure on board a Phalcon and could imagine the beautiful sight of Indian eastern coast line being bathed in the the first lights of the day . The Bariev A 50 Phalcon has now moved closer to shore ,somewhere between Chennai and CAR Nicobar and drifting slowly backwards as the incoming hostile aircraft progressed eastwards ,keeping watch at the same time making sure of no nasty surprise .Inside it was dark with all shades drawn . The two rows of six flat panel multifunctional displays each were all manned and the last one in each row was configured for electronic and conventional defense of the aircraft and that include wide band protective jammers ,chaff and smart flares ,a pair of R-73 added on the inner wing pylons for just in case situation though hw hoped never to use them.Pre packed chutes were available for all crew members but at the moment no one was wearing them .With four Su-30 mki flying top cover all the time ,the phalcon was not exactly an easy target to kill .

- sir the Migs have taken off from blair –call sign black eagle
- good hold them at grid sector zulu orange –status on LCA
- still no take off confirmation sir
- get the confirmation now
- black eagle lead –ocean eye –I have control
- copy that ocean eye –black eagle lead –you have control
- black eagle –ocean eye – turn right hading 190 – 20000 ft –await further order –at grid sector zulu orange -over
- copy ocean eye – turning right 190 –making altitude 20000 ft –destination grid zulu orange over .

The A-50 banked again to starboard this time with a bank angle never exceeding 5 degree as it completed one circuit and began the next .

RHINO CHARGE 3-4 5 – ANDAMANS SEA – 210 KM SOUTH WEST OF CAR NICOBAR
Squadron leader Jamwal wearly watched the fuel tank content display and mentally calculated how much time he will have to land after this battle. The presence of car nic close by was comforting but he also knew there would be to many aircraft vying for landing spot on that tiny island airbase immediately after the engagement and understandable the Mig 29 s and the LCA s will get the landing priority .His best chance was the pair of IL-78 s getting ready to take off from Rajali now and shall be taking up position some where between the mainland and car nic as to be decided by the air battle commander. As he eased back the throttle even further the twin AL31 s became really quite and thrust level indicated 73% maximum without re heat.A slight nudge on the stick and the big aircraft tipped on her wings effortlessly entering the “wait zoneâ€
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INS RAJALI –ARKONAM- WHITE DEATH FLIGHT -10X LCA-0610 HRS

- Wing commander Sekhawat was fuming and rightly so. The crew chiefs have informed him of further delay in loading up the Astra missiles along with a pair of venerable R-73s for close combat. Lined up on the parking ramp of INS Rajali were the 10 Tejas multi role light combat aircraft of Indian manufacture about to be tested in combat for the first time .Most of the pilots in the squadron while officially trainee were actually deputed from existing Mirage 2000 and Mig 29 squadrons most of whom acted as test pilots in IOC/FOC of the aircraft and now would be responsible for training the new recruits fresh out of the air warfare school Hyderabad.

The LCA is billed to be the world’s smallest, lightweight, supersonic, multi-role, single-seat fighter designed to function as IAF’s frontline, multi-mission tactical aircraft. Although the term light can be misleading because the LCA will be able to deliver as much ordinance as the much larger MiG-27s. It is primarily intended to replace the aging fleet of IAF Mig-21s. Some of its characteristic design and functional features are as follows. It has a delta wing configuration with a single tail fin and no tail planes or fore planes. The airframe is made of aluminum-lithium alloys (30%), carbon-carbon composites (40%) and titanium (3%), that contributes to its lightweight. LCA incorporates modern design concepts and the state-of-art technologies such as relaxed static stability, fly-by-wire Flight Control System, Advanced Digital Cockpit, Multi-Mode Radar, Integrated Digital Avionics System, Advanced Composite Material Structures and a Flat Rated Engine. LCA’s pure delta-wing design implies that it is an inherently unstable platform, which - however - gives it improved aerodynamic efficiency, enhanced agility and maneuverability. Advanced on-board quadruplex computers ensure the stability of the aircraft while flying (called fly-by-wire). Other functional features of the LCA include short take off and landing, excellent maintainability and a wide range of weapon fits. The on-board avionics enhance the role of LCA as an effective weapons platform. The Integrated Digital Avionics Suite of LCA is characterized by its interface with all other aircraft systems such USMS, Propulsion System, Electrical System and Flight control System. The glass cockpit and hands on throttle and stick (HOTAS) controls reduce pilot workload. Accurate navigation and weapon aiming information on the HUD helps the pilot achieve his/her mission effectively. A ring laser gyro (RLG) based inertial navigation system (INS) provides accurate navigation guidance to the pilot. LCA has considerable weapons-carrying capability. There are a total of 7 hard points (3 below each wing and one below the fuselage) to carry a variety of missiles, bombs and rockets as per mission requirements. The advanced cockpit and the digital avionics give LCA a very good point and shoot capability with a quick turn around time. LCA has provisions for fuel drop-tanks and in-flight refueling that extend its range and endurance. Further, supersonic speeds at all altitudes and the availability of high performance radar give the LCA effective Beyond Visual Range (BVR) attack capabilities.
The radio crackled to life as the irritated voice of the air battle commander came in
- white death –ocean eye –what is the god damned delay
- ocean eye –white death lead – delay for weapon load out sir – requesting permission for take of in a few minutes sir
a long dealy of 5 more minutes and then atlast the crew chief signaled all clear as last of the sleek Astra BVR missiles were locked into position and the status indicator of the left multi functional panel showed full complement of missiles and ammo for twin barrel Gsh 302 gun loaded and ready for use

- tower –white death lead – request clearance for straight out departure –immediate take off –over
- white death lead –tower –your flight is cleared for immediate take off –runway 09 –fly runway heading – contact ocean eye at 5000 ft for battle control –over
- copy that tower –white death flight rolling now – fly runway heading-contact ocean eye at 5000 ft –over .

one by one the 10 Tejas took of in a sharp climb out and turned to port as came up to the contact altitude in a wide bow formation .
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the 10 Tejas multi role light combat aircraft of Indian manufacture about to be tested in combat for the first time .
Tejas multi role fighter now as you described shankarda. So it is not only replacement of MiG21 but much much more than that. Anyway shankarda which generation of fighter you will describe LCA to be 4, 4.5 4,.75.......
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IAF PHALCON -ANDAMAN SEAS-0615 HRS

Commodore Manjit now had all the pieces in the position he wanted .Like a conductor of a multi piece orchestra ,it will be now his responsibility to synchronize the disjointed fast moving pieces spread all over the ocean into a neatly choreographed act - an act of swift death for those who dared threaten the air space of the nation.
It is the smallest, lightest multirole fighter in its class, and has the most % composite material makeup of any production fighter. This, plus its extremely small size, allows it to have a very low RCS, the TD-2 variant, which featured about half the composite material construction of the final design, apparently has about half the RCS of the Mirage 2000 in the IAF. The avionics, computers, etc. designed for the LCA are all Indian, have already been flight tested, as they make up much of the components on other aircraft, significantly the Su-30MKI, which benefited from the tech spin offs. It is designed to be very easily upgradable with new technologies.

The low weight but yet very strong composites also allow for a large thrust-to-weight ratio without compromizing on weapons payload. When the Kaveri engine, which is farther behind on design than the aircraft itself, will be inducted in the 2012 timeframe, it will allow the aircraft to be capable of supercruise. Till then, it will be powered by upgraded American GE F-404-IN engines.

The unique cranked-delta design, and the overall aircraft structure with significant wing-fuselage blending, etc. allows for incredible manoverability without the need for canards, which further reduces its RCS compared to similar aircraft, like the Gripen and the J-10. Interestingly, the LCA was initially designed with canards, but were later removed when the mastering of the wing design made for no significant handing improvements with canards. The Navalized version of the LCA, which will enter service on the indigenous ADS carrier in 2012 will incidently have small canards.

The operating cost of the Tejas will be extremely low, and the purchase cost only about $21 million per aircraft, upwards (downards?) of only 1/3 the cost of similarly potent aircraft, like the Gripen, Rafale and J-10, which are roughly in its class (though larger.)

It is a very modern jet in every sense of the word. I'm not playing up my words when I say it will be top of the line when it enters service.

It's been marred by a lot of bad press and even worse reporting, and by tremendous delays caused by post nuke test (now withdrawn) sanctions that had DRDO engineers scrambling to reinvent the wheel.

But the net result was a much better, if harder, learning experience and an aircraft that is almost totally indigenous, from design to avionics to materials. The LCA of then (delay) was a primitive 4th gen, and the LCA of now is a true 4th+ gen aircraft. The difference is between an F-16 block 15 and a block 60 (though the LCA's design is much more modern config that should hold up pretty well in the next 20-30 years.)


Right now, its weapons and avionics suite (already integrated on other IAF aircraft) are equal to or more capable than the Gripens, which probably is its closest equivilant.

The Gripen has slightly more powerful radar for now, however. The Tejas, even in its TD-2 demonstration model has a significantly lower radar signiature than the Gripen, according to IAF pilots who flew both types of aircraft, though in this PV-2 and in the actual production model, the %age of composites will be significantly increased.

The Tejas is supposedly handles better and will be more manoverable than the Gripen and Rafale (the latter which IAF pilots have extensive experience flying on and with, as it was an initial MRCA contender), according to those same pilots.

The engines of both the Tejas and Gripen and will be very similar.


The biggest advantage, though, is cost. Flyaway price of the Tejas is about 5 million bucks cheaper than the Gripen (plus much cheaper lifecycle costs in the Indian scenario against the Gripen), but at the same time will be an overall more capable and upgradable aircraft when it enters service.
The salient operating characteristics of LCA is its low observability about 35% of that of mirage 2000 because of wide spread use if radar transparent composites in its air frame and agility because of airframe design and advanced level of computer control making it a very difficult to hit target at any stage of combat both BVR and WVR

When operating with Su 30 MKI it would make an unbeatable combination in area defense and if some Mig 29s are thrown in the pot , well it is pure disaster for any enemy aircraft formation ,
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When operating with Su 30 MKI it would make an unbeatable combination in area defense and if some Mig 29s are thrown in the pot , well it is pure disaster for any enemy aircraft formation ,
oops and unfortunately for chinese all the elements are in place. It is going to be doom for them. :)
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Shankar
Let the dishoom dishoom begin in earnest. :D
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IAF PHALCON -ANDAMAN SEAS-0625 HRS

Commodore Manjit watched the communication scanner display with interest .It was obvious the first group of J-11 s were trying to establish a data link with the intelligence gathering station on Great Coccos Island ,which will enable them to have a poor mans awac capability of the IAF aircrafts in the region by getting a direct data feed from the powerful ground based radars operating in the island and make Car Nic vulnerable to a surprise attack if the PLAAF strike fighters on a track to Chennai ,divert to Car Nic as an alternate target. So far the radio communication indicated they were having trouble because of range or poor quality electronics or both but things can change if they come in closer to the island and then relay the signal to rest of the flight giving them a so far un available operational flexibility .

Well well said Commodore Manjit to himself –this is an irritant he can surely do without .Problem was none of the aircraft entering the region had any serious air to mud capability all essentially configured for air defense /dominance role . 3 of the Mig 29 s were carrying a pair of anti radiation missiles each apart from the guns –not a satisfactory answer . Only answer was the Jaguar squadron at Car Nic a few minutes flying time from Cocos but they will have no dedicated top cover for the mission. The strike window will be measured in minutes before the PLAAF flankers turn on the heat .It will be a tricky operation to carry out but possible . He clicked on the intercom to sector controller responsible for coordinating strike missions out of car nicobar

- squadron leader how many jags we have at car nic on ready status now
- 4 are ready sir and rest on 5 minute alert
- I need 12 loaded with 2000 pounders –laser guided type – target cocos – get them to take off position and confirm
-copy that sir – issuing instructions
-car nic base –ocean eye –we have an urgent strike mission for you – target slant eye-report when ready to launch –over
- copy that ocean eye –car nic –we can get max 8 birds in 5 minutes –over
- car nic –ocean eye –will do – report when ready

The air battle over andamans became more complex as 8 HAL built speecat jaguars started getting ready for a strike mission at short notice ,to take out the eye of the dragon
Coco Islands are a pair of strategically important islands located in the eastern Indian Ocean, politically administered by Burma under Yangon Division, but leased to the People's Republic of China since 1994.[1]
Geographically, they are a part of the Andaman Islands archipelago and separated from the North Andaman Island (India) by the 20 km wide Coco channel. The Bay of Bengal lies to the west and the Andaman Sea to the east of the islands. The Burmese mainland is 300 km to the north.
The Coco Islands consist of the main Great Coco Island and the smaller Little Coco Island, separated by the Alexandra Channel. Table Island, a third small island located near the Great Coco Island, previously housed a lighthouse but is presently uninhabited.[2]
In an interview to the BBC in 1998, George Fernandes, the then defense minister of India, revealed that the Coco Islands were a part of India until they were donated to Burma by Nehru.[3][4]
Chinese signal intelligence gathering station and maritime army base
China established a SIGINT intelligence gathering station on Great Coco Island in 1992 to monitor Indian naval activity in the Andaman and Nicobar Islands.[1] The station also allows China to monitor the movement of other navies and ships throughout the eastern Indian Ocean, especially in the crucial point in shipping routes between the Bay of Bengal and the Strait of Malacca.[1] It may also be used to monitor activities at the launch site of the Indian Space Research Organization at Sriharikota and the Defence Research and Development Organization at Chandipur-on-sea. The Chinese Army is also building a maritime base on Little Coco Island.[5]
he maritime reconnaissance and electronic intelligence station on Great Coco Island in the Bay of Bengal, some 300 kms south of the Burmese mainland, is the most important Chinese electronic intelligence installation in Myanmar [Burma]. The Chinese Army is also building a base on Small Coco Island in the Alexandra Channel between the Indian Ocean and the Andaman Sea north of India's Andaman Islands. These two islands, which have been leased to China since 1994, are located at a crucial point in traffic routes between the Bay of Bengal and the Strait of Malacca. The Coco Islands are thus an ideal location for for monitoring Indian naval and missile launch facilities in Andaman and Nicobar Islands to the south and movements of the Indian Navy and other navies throughout the eastern Indian Ocean.

Construction of the Great Coco Island station began in late 1992 with the emplacement of a 45-50m antenna tower, radar sites and other electronic facilities forming a comprehensive SIGINT collection facility. In mid-1993, some of the 70 Chinese naval personnel began operating the new radar equipment, and by the summer of 1994 the the PLA the radar and SIGINT facilities were complete and ready for use.

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Shankar,
Graet Scenario so far. But can Car Nic AFB handle one Sqn of Su 30MKI and another of Jaguar? The logistic facilities appear austere at best unless there has been a substantial upgrade recently. And if so, will it escape notice of the Chinese?
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[quote]Car Nicobar, April 15, 2005,Srinjoy Chowdhury (The Statesman)

Protected by a tsunami-resistant wall, the Indian Air Force base here is on its way to becoming a Diego Garcia-like base of strategic importance.

As defence officials said, the air base, post tsunami, is not about force-structure, meaning the stationing of large number of top-of-the-line fighter aircraft, but infrastructure. This means the base will have the capacity to be used for large-scale operations whenever necessary. Like Diego Garcia, the US base in the Indian Ocean, Car Nicobar will not have many strike elements permanently.

Indian defence planners have long recognised the growing potential of the Andamans as a strategic base. It is close to the important sea-lanes that take vast amounts of oil to East Asia through the Malacca Straits and the South-east Asian countries and is only around 45 km from the Myanmarese Cocos Islands where the Chinese have a presence.

During the briefing, Lt-Gen. Aditya Singh, the unified command chief, pointed out that the “USA has a skeleton base in Diego Garcia.â€
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Squadron Leader Jamwal still kicking chinese butt
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Great scenario Shankar sahib 8)
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IAF PHALCON -ANDAMAN SEAS-0625 HRS

Commodore Manjit finished giving the final touches to battle plan on his personal Dell laptop mounted along the multifunctional display console the map and operational data was fed to the all the sector controllers through a dedicated optical fiber based data link by passing the main signal processor computer output . It was time to put some of the true capability of A 50 Phalcon to good use.

His plan as being displayed now on the sector controllers screen reflected a simple much proven tactics used for air defense of most Russian and Indian airbases by trapping the intruding aircraft between the patrolling aircraft, surface to air missiles and the multi barrel Shilka(ZSU 23 4 ) guns . In case of a low altitude successful penetration the guns push the intruders out into SAM envelope and the SAM forces them to disperse into waiting arms of the aircraft in combat air patrol .In case of high speed altitude penetration the aircrafts on combat air patrol forces them to into the SAM envelope which in its turn guides them into the gun kill zone by selective firing.

Manjit wanted to do the same now. He planned on using the Su-30 s for high altitude area defense,pushing and successful intruder into the mid altitude blocking flight of the Mig 29 now taking up position in the bay of Bengal between Chennai and Car Nicobar .The LCA S will be responsible for the low altitude intruders killing and pushing rest in the Mig envelope and the fulcrums on their part will do the same .

It was not a simple plan and to have success the Phalocn will have to do its role too –starting now. To start with it has to help all aircraft become semi stealthy at long range by going radar standby mode, active radar only during weapon launch .Secondly he will have to make the intruders go ‘blindâ€
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IAF PHALCON -ANDAMAN SEAS-0626 HRS

Rhino charge –white death-black eagle flight – –ocean eye –be advised we have multiple boogies inbound on Chennai –type J-11 Su 27 – 12 plus – heading 240 –speed 1150 kms per hour-altitude – 500 meters – confirm message received –over

- Ocean eye –black eagle –message received 5/5 ,the mig 29 lead pilot was quickest to respond
- Ocean eye –rhino 3 – copy message –over ,came in the acknowledgment from the Su 30 group lead in pilot
- Ocean eye –white death – understood bogies at 500 meters -12 plus –over
- All flights –ocean eye command -change frequency to 134.6 now –activate data link to receive priority instructions
- Frequency changed to new –high speed data link activated came in the confirmations with a lapse of less than 15 seconds
- White death –ocean eye – make altitude 500 meters –heading 045 –speed 950km/hr – radar on stand by mode –prior clearance required to go active –you are not weapons free for time being – confirm over
- Ocean eye –white death lead – descending to 500 meters –new heading 045-speed 950 km/hr – radar on standby –understand not weapons free
- Black eagle lead –ocean eye – maintain present altitude –new heading 310- speed 1100 km/hr –strict emcon -weapns not free – confirm –over
- Ocean eye –black eagle lead – setting course 310-maintaining present altitude –speed 1000 km going to 1100 km/hr –over
- Rhino 3 –ocean eye – bandits at 350 –grid sector zeta bravo- altitude 500 meters – close in and engage –you are weapons free and a cleared to go active – over
- Thanks ocean eye ,came in the voice of squadron leader Jamwal – engaging bandits now – understand weapons free – engaging now –over

RHINO CHARGE 3-4 5 – ANDAMANS SEA – 190 KM SOUTH WEST OF CAR NICOBAR-0627 HRS

Squadron leader Jamwal was happy at last .The need less wasting of fuel was getting to his nerves as the rest of the assets were put in position .But now as he listened to the precise instructions of air battle commanders on the net the whole game plan of the seasoned naval aviator now in charge of the battle over car Nicobar started making sense, in fact lot of sense.

But analysis can come later ,Jamwal first action was to make sure he and his weapon system officer was trapped tight and oxygen masks on , then he pointed his index finger down and followed up with a sharp push on the stick forward making the flanker dive almost vertically ,a slight nudge to port and he was on the intercept course 350 ,pull up on the stick slowly ,ease back on the throttle ans the su-30 leveled. Out precisely at 5000 meters . The iar search radar toggle up and the coloured display came alive as the powerful radar scanned the horizon and pained the small blips just beginning to appear on the outer fringes of his scope. Move the collective throttle forward to full military power and speed display flickered on to 1000-1050 -1100 kmph – ease back on the throttle –power up the weapons console – the display showed 2 R-27 and 4 R-73 still remaining .Time for a final weapon launch clearance
- ocean eye – rhino 3 – we are approaching launch zone –request weapons free –over
- stand by rhino flight – all flights – rhino about to launch –make sure IFF on
Rhino charge –you are weapons free with Rodio 27 only R-27 onl –over
-Copy that ocean eye – free n R-27 only –over
-Rhino –ocean eye – the bandits are turning into you – make heading 010 –speed 1400 km/hr –range – 170 km –over
- Turning to 010 – max speed engagement profile – over
Jamwal pushed the throttle all the way forward past the reheat marker and clicked on the r-22 animation .The displayed missile changed its color from green to red and the real time target data ,its location, speed ,altitude ,aircraft type and other details started getting uploaded into the missiles smart brain from the phalcon via the sukhois mission computer and high speed data link even when the enemy flight was out of its effective tracking range .

The 12 odd PLAAF fighters were now on head up display and the attack computer selected the closest as the biggest threat and assigned the remaining two R-27 ,one to each ,checked the range to target,checked all target dat have indeed been downloaded into the missiles robotic brain and also checked all the ignition and separation circuits are healthy and only then it projected the shoot command on the head up display as well as on the multifunctional display .

Squadron leader Jamwal did the need full as he pulled back on the throttle slightly, checked the attitude on artificial orange black horizon display and squeezed the knobby red fire button twice.

The two R-27 s dropped free into the sukhois slipstream tumbled out of it and ignited its solid motor with a nose down attitude. Both the missiles stayed together on a parallel course for a few seconds then diverged for their preys who were now trying to escape the incoming missiles by diving further into the ocean . Not still knowing how they were acquired in the first place

A total of 8 R-27 s were launched. That took care of 4 J-11 s .two of the J-11 s were slow to react –surprised out of their mind at first all the communication being jammed and then salvo of missiles coming from top without any radar ever painting them ,except at the last moment . One of the J-11 tried to escape into the ocean and paid the price as the pilot tried to level out over the waves and the waves plucked both its wings . The last ill fated Chinese aircraft tried to out climb a R-27 and became a small sun itself as the missile caught up.
Ocean eye –rhino 3 –splash 2 flankers –confirm –over
- Rhino 3 –ocean eye confirm two kills – good hunting – we also confirm one kill each to rhino 4 and 5 –good hunting guys – break off engagement now –new heading 210 –altitude 10000 meters –speed 800 klick-over
- Copy that ocean eye –breaking off for time being – heading 210-climbing to 10k meters – over
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Some great movie about MiG-29K & MiG-35 in work:
http://www.zshare.net/video/1225374307a3dd99/ (100 mb)
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Well Shankar and Others hate to spoil the party, but the scenario is getting too pro Indian! It seems that Chinese are doing nothing to counter our moves!
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IAF and INS are having much easier time in dealing with PLAF and PLAN than Americans are thinking they would in future ( 2012).

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Post by varghese »

"...the scenario is getting too pro Indian"

What is this ridiculous need for self flagellation among some Indians? Everything Shankar has posted is plausible given the circumstances he has gone to great pains to explain - the performance difference between the real thing and copies of aircraft and superior electronic warfare hardware, etc. Sure there will be ups and downs but why should there not be a straight run of luck and superior tactics for a while? Even if things stop being so good it doesn't automatically have to mean you get a real ass kicking back to make up for the good run and restore 'balance'. None of these people wanting 'balance' seem to know about real life events when superior numbers and even top class hardware was decimated by numerically smaller but better trained forces with even more superior hardware - e.g Desert Storm or the Brits in the Falklands. I'll bet even these very chaps sreaming for 'balance' are in awe of some of Israel's achievements. Do these guys object when Hollywood portrays American forces as near invincible? You need to think like winners if you are to be winners and thank heavens that the new India is beginning to think and act a little like that even though there is much room for improvement.

Shankar/Vivek ignore these people who can't sit back and enjoy a ripping yarn and keep up the good work.
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Post by Anurag »

I second Varghase.
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