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Re: Nature Conservation in India News & Discussion

Postby sum » 12 Aug 2020 09:01

Another misleading thing is usage of plantations in the forest cover for our case, i guess.
If these are removed, the forest cover scenario is pretty grim indeed and worsening.

As for tree cover, a cursory walk through a city like Bangalore should indicate the shockingly low tree cover currently for such a large city where one would need to travel miles to come across one single open park area like a Cubbon park or Lal Bagh and even they are in complete disrepair and with structures coming up all inside them ( ignoring the tiny BBMP parks in some wards)

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Postby Jarita » 12 Aug 2020 09:39

sum wrote:Another misleading thing is usage of plantations in the forest cover for our case, i guess.
If these are removed, the forest cover scenario is pretty grim indeed and worsening.

As for tree cover, a cursory walk through a city like Bangalore should indicate the shockingly low tree cover currently for such a large city where one would need to travel miles to come across one single open park area like a Cubbon park or Lal Bagh and even they are in complete disrepair and with structures coming up all inside them ( ignoring the tiny BBMP parks in some wards)


What worries is the “destructive development” mindset of the so called RW is a road to ecocide (pun intended). Road widening and reckless real estate is big poison.

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Postby Jarita » 15 Aug 2020 02:44

We have not learned our lesson from the disaster in the Western Ghats. Now it's Goa's turn to become a Kerala under "DEVELOPMENT" minded ministers and their "CONTRACT" minded IAS officers and advisors. Development is a word that is being used for ecocide. We urgently need a solid Minister of Environment who will not buckle to the roads ministry based upon directions from Nagpur. We afterall have a roads minister who believes that "development and environment" do not go hand in hand. I have already highlighted the disastrous state of India's environment.

BJP defends cutting 50,000 trees as necessary for development in Goa

Panjim: The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in Goa on Tuesday backed the three projects being taken up in South Goa in which nearly 50,000 trees will be cut, saying they were necessary for development.

Addressing a press conference at BJP state headquarters in the city, party spokesperson Sidharth Kuncalienkar said the union government had decided to take up those projects considering their pros and cons and activists should take that into account before staging protest.

The former MLA said before protesting there was need to think over the fact that the coastal state was one of the most forested areas in the country due to which there was little area left for development.

Nearly 50,000 trees located in the Western Ghat region of Goa likely to be cut for three projects of the central government which include expansion of railway lines, highways and drawing of a new high tension power. National Wildlife Board for Wildlife gave approval for the projects.

Tourism stakeholders, opposition parties and activists have opposed the projects claiming they would have adverse impact on environment.

Bombay High Court in Goa had issued notices to state and central government agencies following a petition filed by a an NGO which alleged that green norms were flouted while granting permission for the projects.


https://goachronicle.com/bjp-defends-cu ... nt-in-goa/

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Postby darshan » 15 Aug 2020 04:08

Goa is pretty small to loose 50k trees. Unless it's related to saving civilization, I don't see what they are building there that can't be built outside Goa where ecology is aready gone.

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Re: Nature Conservation in India News & Discussion

Postby suryag » 15 Aug 2020 04:32

My dream is to see an uninterrupted tiger corridor encompassing the following sanctuaries Koyna-> chandoli->radhanagari->bhimgad->pushpagiri->brahmagiri->aralam->nagarhole->amarambalam. Heck we could create massive 6/8lane express ways why not this corridor ? This will be a massive boost to the frail ecology and will help our future. We can work out a corridor in the east too.

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Postby Jarita » 15 Aug 2020 20:36

After what has happened to the three gorges dam, India needs to be very careful.

How India Manages Dams is a Sure Prescription for Disaster: Himanshu Thakkar
Barely has the monsoon set in and Assam is already experiencing devastating floods that have left thousands homeless.


https://www.newsclick.in/India-manageme ... s-disaster

The Central Water Commission under the Ministry of Water Resources monitors the storage situation in 123 of India’s 5,200 dams and brings out a weekly status report every Thursday. If we look at these bulletins closely we find that even as monsoon is just starting in most parts of India, a large number of big dams in India are already filled to the extent of 30%, 40%, 50%, 60% and some over 70% of their storage capacity.

If we are not able to use this water before the next monsoon, it means this massive investment has not been used to generate benefits for those for whom this storage was created. And that too at a time when vast areas and sections of the population were suffering due to shortage of water. Equally important is that now as the monsoon sets in these dams will fill up fast and cause huge flood disasters in the downstream areas. We have dozens of instances when this has happened in recent years.

Why was this water not utilised earlier?

The dam managers need to respond to this question. But broadly, this is because the downstream infrastructure required to best utilise this stored water has not been fully built, or is not functioning or was not required in the first place. In most cases it means the canal network necessary for utilisation of the water has not been built or is not functional.

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Postby Jarita » 15 Aug 2020 20:40

WHY WOULD YOU CEMENT A RIVERBED? The groundwater has not stopped depleting.



Dravyavati river project fails to improve Jaipur’s water tab ..


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... aign=cppst

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Postby darshan » 15 Aug 2020 22:25

I guess that I'll keep scratching my head till cows come head. People with low budgets are figuring out all sorts of ways to recharge ground water but here I guess is the case of money spent is money earned.

Everytime I visit India, I see less and less trees and more and more concrete. Let's see if there's any correlation with issues being faced. The area I grew up in went from tens of ponds to no ponds. No longer anyone has wells to allow rain water to head back down first and then excess go to ponds. No trees. I have seen people trying to grow lawns by getting rid of trees. One can go on and on.

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Postby sudarshan » 16 Aug 2020 00:00

People in India, especially in urban areas, have come to believe that development=concretization. Given a plot of land, they try to maximize the concrete footprint, maximize indoor space so that they can live "luxuriously." Even the residual land outside is preferably paved over. Developments jut into the road, again with the aim of increasing indoor livable area. There is at most a strip of land, a couple of feet in width, around the house/ apartment, where a single human being can barely walk between the building and the wall (no fences any more, even). The idea of having a functional but minimal indoor area with lots of garden space is so passe now.

People living in India are very surprised when they see photos from the US, showing mountain and forest or lake. "Are you sure that's the USA?" Hiking or trekking trails - people in India simply can't believe that it's in the US. The US is a developed country, ergo, all of it must be concrete, except for the beach areas. Even Indians who live in the US, usually in big cities clustered in a few areas (NJ, DC, CA, Austin, etc.) can't believe their eyes when they see pics of lush green forests or lakes in wilder areas of the US (and there are a lot of those).

On the flip side - this is a description of the urban areas of India. Years ago, I read an article in the Hindu (print edition, so no link) which said that in southern India, there was a demographic collapse underway, and combined with the trend of migrating to cities like Chennai or Bangalore, was creating a situation where the rural areas were getting depopulated. Unused rural areas automatically turn to forest or lake, and it is a surprisingly rapid process. TN has a population of 75 million, of which 11 million are in Chennai. KA has 68 million, of which 12 million are in Bangalore, and another 1.2 million are in Mysore. And so on.

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Postby Yayavar » 16 Aug 2020 00:31

^^ Chandigarh- ultimate concretization. It has been a long time since I've been there but my memory is mainly of high heat from the concrete pavement and plazas. It seems as if Carbusier forgot the 44 deg C possibilities and imported the piazzas of Italy and Spain. In later development there are more trees - not just along the avenues - and maidans are non-concrete.

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Postby darshan » 17 Aug 2020 04:26

How does one find real and genuine efforts to support? Grassroot efforts are always tough to find as they don't have budgets or expertise to show up on Google search. I used to be able to find people willing to take care of cows that I donate till they die. However, even that's becoming rarity. We have an ancestral farm land that we don't want to commercialize and used to grow cow fodder to have available for free for cow owners. Now even free is a hard sell. Most likely upwards mobility is the cause.

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Postby darshan » 17 Aug 2020 05:37

Protecting India's Precious Gangetic Dolphins - PM Modi Announces 10-Year Conservation Project
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/protectin ... on-project
A decade after the Gangetic Dolphins were declared national aquatic animals, Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday on the occasion of the 74th Independence Day announced 'Project Dolphin' to give a stronger impetus for conservation of the species in the lines of Project Tiger and Project Elephant.

It envisages to address conservation concerns and empower the stakeholders like the river-dependent population in reducing the river pollution and allowing sustainable fishery and river-based other livelihood options through scientifically oriented conservation methods, the ministry said.

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Postby Cyrano » 17 Aug 2020 14:20

Every village, town and city on the Ganga or any other river for that matter, needs to have a sewage treatment plant. Specific effluent treatment plants must be made mandatory for running industries on river banks, and those industries must be made to fund these plants. Tanneries for ex are some of the worst polluters. We need laws that reduce pesticide spraying which invariably ends up in rivers and seas with runoff water. If India dreams of becoming a developed nation, preserving our environment and biodiversity is a must.

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Postby Prasad » 17 Aug 2020 16:02

It needs money. The state of Yamuna after industries opened, after a month of clear water says enough. Govt must pitch in to setup these treatment plants for which companies can pay for use. Massive cap-ex will only sink industries (the legal ones anyway).

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Postby darshan » 17 Aug 2020 16:14

Citizens throw out all sorts of things on the ground surface. Many home users have also seem to have started using pesticides and fertilizers for home gardening. There's general purpose misuse of chemicals for mosquito, termite, etc. Lot of chemicals have started being used for drainage cleaning. There's additional pollution due to food wrappers and related plastics. Not sure if garages are still dumping automotive chemicals or not. May be usage of septic tanks should be introduced with enzymes to break things down for homes. Probably won't happen but there's need for constant analysis and publishing of numbers on news channels about pollution. Though similar to air pollution, not sure if it will make any difference to public as auto and generators continue to be used in increased manner. The well to do public seems to just resort to band aids like masks and RO machines but not doing their part to eliminate pollution.

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Re: Nature Conservation in India News & Discussion

Postby Jarita » 18 Aug 2020 09:16

Watch this...

A Conservation Biologist Explains the Problems With the New EIA Draft 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... =emb_title

EIA Draft 2020: What next for the controversial environment law?

https://www.livemint.com/mint-lounge/fe ... 44539.html

The process has been dogged by controversy ever since the MoEFCC released the draft in the Gazette on March 23, a day before the country went under lockdown to contain the covid-19 pandemic. But if the ministry believed that the draft would pass unnoticed, it was in for a shock. Both the draft notification and the the ministry's handling of the mandatory public feedback process, created outrage across the country.

The most problematic part of the debate is the 2020 draft itself. Following a rationale to promote the “ease of doing business", it dilutes the assessment process, and effectively shuts out the public from having a say on how new projects get environmental clearances. The most controversial change in rule the draft proposes is the provision that projects can receive clearances post facto. A project that is already operating in violation of the EPA can now apply for clearance.



The stance of this government/ state governments with regards to environment and the antiquated idea of development is extremely disappointing. What is ridiculous is the automatic labeling of people who oppose this relentless destruction as "anti nationals". Its pathetic and low IQ because many of us are patriots and supporters of this government but that does not mean that we support destruction of all our resources. Pramod Sawant is now labeling people objecting to that rubbish project which will slaughter 50,000 trees as anti development. This is no different that the terminology that the left uses such as fascist, nazi blah blah. This needs to stop.
I am hating the fact that hypocrites like Jairam Ramesh and his owner RGa are coming across as more rational in this environmental debate.

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Postby darshan » 18 Aug 2020 22:29

At the very least, there needs to be an absolute no go list to achieve both goals of easiness and environment protection. There's a time a decade ago when I wanted my extended family to open up PCB joint in GJ. I still decided to not move forward given that we couldn't obtain permission to open it in polluting areas but we could in non polluting areas. We knew people in our areas (farm lands) to get it done. However, in industrial areas away from home base, the greasing cost was too high due to not knowing people.

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Postby Jarita » 25 Aug 2020 23:03

This article is ghost written by R Jairam. It's obvious since Maino cannot write a straight line.
The congress party has a terrible track record with regard to environment. All their allies were given ample go aheads to stuff wetlands and get through the worst clearances. However this speaks to my point about perception battle and the not so effective thrust on environmental protection. You must never let Maino occupy this space. Jairam Ramesh should have just written it under his name.

https://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/s ... 339131.ece

India with its rich biodiversity and widespread inequality must especially pay heed now. Our nation has all too often sacrificed the environment and the rights of our people while chasing the chimera of unbridled economic growth. Of course, progress requires trade-offs, but there must always be boundaries that cannot be transgressed. But over the past six years, the government has thoughtlessly — or worse, with intent — eroded our environmental protection framework. The biennial global Environmental Performance Index report has consistently put India at the bottom of its rankings. We were an alarming 177th out of 180 countries in 2018, faring badly on virtually all indicators — environmental health policy, biodiversity and habitat, air and water pollution and climate change.

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Postby Jarita » 29 Aug 2020 21:31

Mass tourism has choked Kodagu: How the hill station can regain its former glory
Proliferation of hotels and unregulated tourism has threatened not just the fragile ecology of Kodagu but the very fabric of the indigenous communities.
https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/m ... ory-131832

Mass tourism or overtourism was the raging problem in Kodagu during the pre-lockdown days. “One of the main reasons for local opposition to tourists is overtourism. The recent landslides and floods in Kodagu can be attributed to a large extent to deforestation and indiscriminate felling of trees to make way for unplanned development, some of them for tourism. There has to be a fine balance between tourism and sustainability,” says Ayappa Somaiah, CEO, Tattva Trails.

“More than the NGOs, it is the local population along with the Panchayats that are monitoring the garbage disposal by resorts and tourists. There have been many instances where tourists were made to clear the garbage that they had disposed on the roadside. Though plastic has been officially banned in the district much before it was implemented in other places, the problem of garbage, sewage and effluents flowing to natural water bodies and the use of plastic by tourists still continues. Now with safety and hygiene

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Postby Jarita » 01 Oct 2020 09:54

Draft EIA Notification – a Unique Text That Places Violators Front and Centre

The draft EIA is a unique text that places the violators of the law front and centre. It looks at environmental law through the eyes of the violators – in terms of the permissions to be sought, impact assessment studies to be conducted, EIA consultants to be compensated, people to be convinced and, of course, the bribes to be paid and processes to be surpassed.


After having identified the many problems and hardships faced by violators, the draft EIA deals with them one by one. If an ignorant industrialist or builder has invested a few hundred-crore rupees to illegally construct a shopping mall or power plant, the draft EIA implicitly recognises the ‘nation-building’ effort that this is, and stipulates that the violator will have to pay a princely sum of Rs 5,000 per day (at best). A mining cartel will end up paying Rs 1,000 per day for having illegally mined sand irrespective of the amount of sand that’s been extracted. In effect, the draft seeks to introduce the concept of reformative justice in environmental law.

https://science.thewire.in/environment/ ... -business/

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Postby darshan » 04 Oct 2020 05:45

State Wild Life Board nod to Petronet gas pipeline, other development projects
https://www.deshgujarat.com/2020/09/29/ ... -projects/
A meeting of State Wildlife Board chaired by Chief Minister Vijay Rupani in virtual mode today granted approval to natural gas pipeline project of Gujarat State Petronet Ltd in eco – sensitive zone. The meeting also gave approval to laying of optical fiber cable, transmission line, electric line, gas pipeline and oil and crude pipeline in protected areas.
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Postby darshan » 04 Oct 2020 22:17

Namami Gange Mission: PM Narendra Modi Inaugurates 6 Mega Sewage Treatment Projects In Uttarakhand
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/namami-ga ... ttarakhand
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The projects inaugurated include an all-new 68 MLD (million litres per day) sewage treatment plant (STP), up-gradation of an existing 27 MLD STP at State’s Jagjeetpur region in Haridwar, and another newly constructed STP in Haridwar’s Sarai with a capacity of 18 MLD.

In addition to these, the PM also inaugrated a 26 MLD STP at Lakkadghat of Rishikesh, a 5 MLD STP will be inaugurated at Chorpani, and two STPs with 1 MLD and 0.01 MLD capacities in Badrinath.

Speaking on the occasion, the Prime Minister highlighted the importance of keeping the River Ganga clean as it plays a significant role in sustaining the lives of about 50 percent of the country’s population from its origin in Uttarakhand till West Bengal.
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Helping Ganga And Gangetic Dolphins Thrive: PM Modi Inaugurates Six Mega Namami Gange Projects In Uttarakhand
https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/help ... ttarakhand
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One noteworthy aspect of the mega projects to fight pollution in Ganga is that these initiatives will be contributing to the conservation, health and well being of the Gangetic Dolphin.

Prime Minister Modi announced 'Project Gangetic Dolphin' today (15 August), on the occasion of India's 74th Independence day. The project is aimed at conserving the Gangetic Dolphins — as part of the conversation on the riverine dolphin.

He has also inaugurated Ganga Avalokan, a museum dedicated to Ganga on Chandi Ghat in Haridwar. The area sees a large footfall of devotees and tourists.

PM Modi also launched "Rowing down the Ganges" -- a book co-published by the National Mission for Clean Ganga and Wildlife Institute of India. The book explores the biodiversity and culture of Ganga.

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Postby NRao » 08 Dec 2020 09:39

Not in India .................

This company is using drones to replant forests devastated by wildfires

The United States has had its most devastating wildfire season on record, with more than 8 million acres of land burned across the country this year.

Regenerating the forests that sat on much of that land would ordinarily take years and involve hundreds of people manually replanting saplings grown in dedicated nurseries.

Seattle-based DroneSeed has what it says is a much faster and more effective solution. As the company's name suggests, it uses fleets of drones (also known as drone swarms) to reforest areas that have burned down, dropping what it calls "seed vessels" into areas where they have the best chance of growing back.

The eight-foot drones, up to five at a time flying together on pre-programmed routes, can cover up to 50 acres a day and each carry as much as 57 pounds of seed vessels, DroneSeed CEO Grant Canary told CNN Business

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Postby tandav » 08 Dec 2020 21:18



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_YcL4jeSYw

This is an interesting concept for decentralized ecocities.

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Postby Rakesh » 23 Mar 2021 06:41

This is sad. Really sad...

https://twitter.com/DataGuyRedux/status ... 48804?s=20 ---> In India last census showed us 3,000 tigers. In last 78 days, 11 tigers have died. All in Maharashtra. This is a catastrophe. If an equivalent human population in India died, we would have lost 5.2 million people. Now wait and think.

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Postby SBajwa » 23 Mar 2021 08:01

Yayavar wrote:^^ Chandigarh- ultimate concretization. It has been a long time since I've been there but my memory is mainly of high heat from the concrete pavement and plazas. It seems as if Carbusier forgot the 44 deg C possibilities and imported the piazzas of Italy and Spain. In later development there are more trees - not just along the avenues - and maidans are non-concrete.



Chandigarh-Mohali-Panchkula has lots of parks (at least 1-2 in each sector) and there is a huge green belt., check it out.

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Postby Aditya_V » 23 Mar 2021 11:42

Rakesh wrote:This is sad. Really sad...

https://twitter.com/DataGuyRedux/status ... 48804?s=20 ---> In India last census showed us 3,000 tigers. In last 78 days, 11 tigers have died. All in Maharashtra. This is a catastrophe. If an equivalent human population in India died, we would have lost 5.2 million people. Now wait and think.

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Many of these deaths are Territorial fights and age acceptable, what is not death in road accidents, snares of poachers, illegal's electric fences of Farmers, poaching of prey, Poaching of Tigers and illegal encroachment of Forest land, blockages in migratory routes etc.

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Postby Jarita » 04 May 2021 02:38

Nitin Gadkari is on his own trip during the pandemic. We have such excessive pollution in our cities and rapidly declining tree cover. He is also completely tone deaf.

https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/ne ... 20408.html

India will spend ₹15 lakh crore to build roads in next 2 years: Nitin Gadkari

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Postby rsingh » 04 May 2021 04:45

Why you want india to stay underdeveloped? You can sleep peacefully with AC. Use the tap water and work on the laptop. Everyone has right to live like you. Do you know how majority of India live?

Let me to enlighten you
A truck drives for 9 hours on bad road to deliver goods from point A to B. Same truck covers same distance on modern road in 2 hours. Who pollutes ore. Ambulance , security agency,students workers save time.
Do you even know how roads are planned? Environmental impact studies are carried out . An belive me these guys are not jokers. Modern infrastructure reduces the pollution iand not other way around. It is better for uplift of millions of poor people. You talk about pollution in cities. That is because of poor implementation of rules. Have you been to pollution sticker booths. A big joke. Old vehicle and relaxed norms .Cooking with wood and coal. Playing politics with farmers burning straw/ paddy. How many paper mills were opened. No . Politicians cry about pollution every time but come monsoon and everything is forgotten.
I have seen your other posts in other threads. One suggestion. , do not write for the shake of writing. Think as a progressive Indian. Study about real cause of problem.and best solutions that have no impact indias March to industrialization.
It is trend to write on pollution , attacking the progressive steps taken by Gvt. Same is story behind hydro projects or coal mining. Protesters are happy to import coL from Australia but they are against mining in India.

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Postby Jarita » 04 May 2021 06:02

rsingh wrote:Why you want india to stay underdeveloped? You can sleep peacefully with AC. Use the tap water and work on the laptop. Everyone has right to live like you. Do you know how majority of India live?

Let me to enlighten you
A truck drives for 9 hours on bad road to deliver goods from point A to B. Same truck covers same distance on modern road in 2 hours. Who pollutes ore. Ambulance , security agency,students workers save time.
Do you even know how roads are planned? Environmental impact studies are carried out . An belive me these guys are not jokers. Modern infrastructure reduces the pollution iand not other way around. It is better for uplift of millions of poor people. You talk about pollution in cities. That is because of poor implementation of rules. Have you been to pollution sticker booths. A big joke. Old vehicle and relaxed norms .Cooking with wood and coal. Playing politics with farmers burning straw/ paddy. How many paper mills were opened. No . Politicians cry about pollution every time but come monsoon and everything is forgotten.
I have seen your other posts in other threads. One suggestion. , do not write for the shake of writing. Think as a progressive Indian. Study about real cause of problem.and best solutions that have no impact indias March to industrialization.
It is trend to write on pollution , attacking the progressive steps taken by Gvt. Same is story behind hydro projects or coal mining. Protesters are happy to import coL from Australia but they are against mining in India.



I am flattered you are reading my posts in various other threads. You are not obliged to read them. I have not seen your posts on other threads.

This is an environment thread and this forum is for people who are deeply concerned about the destruction of the Indian ecosystem. I am surprised you have landed here to tell me to shut up. Totally bizarre.

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Postby Rishirishi » 04 May 2021 06:51

rsingh wrote:Why you want india to stay underdeveloped? You can sleep peacefully with AC. Use the tap water and work on the laptop. Everyone has right to live like you. Do you know how majority of India live?

Let me to enlighten you
A truck drives for 9 hours on bad road to deliver goods from point A to B. Same truck covers same distance on modern road in 2 hours. Who pollutes ore. Ambulance , security agency,students workers save time.
Do you even know how roads are planned? Environmental impact studies are carried out . An belive me these guys are not jokers. Modern infrastructure reduces the pollution iand not other way around. It is better for uplift of millions of poor people. You talk about pollution in cities. That is because of poor implementation of rules. Have you been to pollution sticker booths. A big joke. Old vehicle and relaxed norms .Cooking with wood and coal. Playing politics with farmers burning straw/ paddy. How many paper mills were opened. No . Politicians cry about pollution every time but come monsoon and everything is forgotten.
I have seen your other posts in other threads. One suggestion. , do not write for the shake of writing. Think as a progressive Indian. Study about real cause of problem.and best solutions that have no impact indias March to industrialization.
It is trend to write on pollution , attacking the progressive steps taken by Gvt. Same is story behind hydro projects or coal mining. Protesters are happy to import coL from Australia but they are against mining in India.


Development and conservation do not cancel each other out. As a matter of fact good preservation generates economic wealth. Germany for example manage their forest in such a way that they are able to export wood to India, despite being the size of Himachal.
25% of children in Delhi have lung damage, how does this help the Indian economy. How does it help the Indian economy, when the water for millions of people in Ganges, is polluted.
It is fully possible to have a strong economy and also good environment. You can see it all over the world. But the transition away from polluting Industry may case some minor disruptions.

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Postby rsingh » 04 May 2021 07:18

Rishrishi , you are right. But we are different from Germany. Huge uneducated population is to be uplifted first. They need easy and quick access to amenities. We will be like Germany if we have infrastructure.. Delhi pollution is bad. Do you know how Delhi grows? I am saying that we must go for real reason for pollution. Why not put a ban on polluting vehicles. Do the Eurooe style vehicles pollution checking system. Make pedestrian only zones. We want the best environment but we do nothing about it.

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Postby Jarita » 04 May 2021 10:11

In India land is a zero sum game. To build more lanes and more roads, Gadkari is cutting through already decimated forest land and scarce greens. Do we need so many lanes in the roads? Why does every infrastructure project for this guy involve a US style road? This is not the US. With regards to quality of life, pollution and heat islands are decimating that quality further. What else is COVID if not man- nature conflict because the boundaries are shrinking. A country which is land scarce must think of alternate transportation and not multi lane highways and roads which are constantly expanding.
Let us not even talk about "hardworking, innocent and whatever". The entire contractor lobby will laugh at you. Add to it his constant machinations against the top duo are reprehensible. He is very hardworking in building roads and destroying environment and angling for you know what.

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Re: Nature Conservation in India News & Discussion

Postby Yayavar » 04 May 2021 12:21

SBajwa wrote:
Yayavar wrote:^^ Chandigarh- ultimate concretization. It has been a long time since I've been there but my memory is mainly of high heat from the concrete pavement and plazas. It seems as if Carbusier forgot the 44 deg C possibilities and imported the piazzas of Italy and Spain. In later development there are more trees - not just along the avenues - and maidans are non-concrete.



Chandigarh-Mohali-Panchkula has lots of parks (at least 1-2 in each sector) and there is a huge green belt., check it out.


Yes, done by later desi town planners. Many locations were redone for desi conditions in 70s and 80s is my understanding.


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